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What is the most anime studio that produce more filler than "episode based on the original series" ? Toei Animation (in One Piece and Dragon Ball there are a lot of boring filler) ? Tokyo TV (Naruto has got episode without a lot of "invented scene", and a lot of "episodes filler") ?

No because, If one of these anime studio is going to do more filler than original episode, I'm pretty sure that will be more funny playing Ace Attorney on the DS than watching it!
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Urp! I hope they don't do to AA what they did to One Piece.

In One Piece they removed blood, violence, smoking, alcohol, every word that explicitly means "Death" or "Dying", every death and killing, and removed a whole arc of the story for reasons unknown.

If they do that to AA I'm going to riot.


That was just 4kids, and for the eight-billionth time, 4kids WILL NOT take a Phoenix Wright anime.
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Catgrenade wrote:
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Urp! I hope they don't do to AA what they did to One Piece.

In One Piece they removed blood, violence, smoking, alcohol, every word that explicitly means "Death" or "Dying", every death and killing, and removed a whole arc of the story for reasons unknown.

If they do that to AA I'm going to riot.


That was just 4kids, and for the eight-billionth time, 4kids WILL NOT take a Phoenix Wright anime.

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Lmao. Ace Attorney without edgeworth is...
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APOLLO JUSTICE!!!!!!


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Yeah, an AA anime would be good, each season covering each game, I just hope they tie the censors to a chair before bringing in the dub. Why? The basis of AA is death. Without that, its nothing.
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Lmao. Ace Attorney without edgeworth is...
the most terrible thing on the earth...
APOLLO JUSTICE!!!!!!


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Ugh.

Honestly, i would've liked aj more if edgy was in it
and apollo didnt have super powers (seriously. Edgeworth is the only character with his own game that dosnt have super magical powers. He uses inteligence and logic to take down criminals.
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VeryHappyTaffy wrote:
Funimation is terrible. They censored all the violence. Did you ever wonder why you didn't see blood in cartoons in America, but they were present in Japan? Funimation's fault. Chances are, Phoenix Wright being a murder-laden storyline, they're going to somehow alter it so that it takes all the punch out of the anime. I'd rather just watch subbed Japanese animes.


I wouldn't mind Funimation handling an AA anime. I like how they did the dub versions of Ouran High School Host Club and Fruits Basket.

There is worse, though. It could be like the English dub of Pokemon, where ALL of the cool stuff that made the show great was censored.
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Miyako Chinatsu wrote:
VeryHappyTaffy wrote:
Funimation is terrible. They censored all the violence. Did you ever wonder why you didn't see blood in cartoons in America, but they were present in Japan? Funimation's fault. Chances are, Phoenix Wright being a murder-laden storyline, they're going to somehow alter it so that it takes all the punch out of the anime. I'd rather just watch subbed Japanese animes.


I wouldn't mind Funimation handling an AA anime. I like how they did the dub versions of Ouran High School Host Club and Fruits Basket.

There is worse, though. It could be like the English dub of Pokemon, where ALL of the cool stuff that made the show great was censored.

Yeah... ... ...

Funimation is not a censoring group. I mean, we've all seen Fullmetal Alchemist. That shit got fucked up.

Given, we have an FCC to worry about, whereas no one else really does. And then, 4Kids, who wouldn't take on AA, because there's no way to 4Kids it. I'd even be okay with Viz doing it, although I can't say I'd be very pleased with Richard Cox and Paul Dobson voicing characters...
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What is the most anime studio that produce more filler than "episode based on the original series" ? Toei Animation (in One Piece and Dragon Ball there are a lot of boring filler) ? Tokyo TV (Naruto has got episode without a lot of "invented scene", and a lot of "episodes filler") ?

No because, If one of these anime studio is going to do more filler than original episode, I'm pretty sure that will be more funny playing Ace Attorney on the DS than watching it!

Well, you see, filler isn't created by the animation studio for anything but Manga productions. For example, Naruto and One Piece. They're ongoing manga. The process of writing and drawing an issue of a manga takes about a week and a half. Animating the story takes about 6 days. After a while, the anime is close to catching up with the manga, so they add filler to stall whilst the manga-ka gets ahead. Like walking in front of a slow friend. You have to stop while they catch up so you can continue at the same level.

With a set-in-stone story, such as PW, you won't get that. It's the same for, say Gundam. They don't have filler because the story is made up on the spot and stuck to. It has a definite end, unlike Naruto and any Shonen Jump publication.
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For an english dub, I wonder who would voice act who.

I have this strange feeling that Dan Green would voice Edgeworth and Yuri Lowenthall would voice Pheonix.

But that's just me. What are your opinoins?
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I hope that whoever voices the characters have the same voices as in the games.

And for characters who don't have game voices, they should all have laryngitis. :gant:
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The Capcom staff aren't VA's though - all they had to say was "Objection" "Hold it" etc - surely professional VAs are needed for such dialogue heavy animé although I take the point - my version of how Nick sounds is based on his "Objection!" and how I sound when reading his passages.
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Exactly - people forget Capcoms STAFF did the Voices for the characters...at least on the games.
There isn't really anything else in that area, so they're free to look for something close to it and who works for peanuts. :D
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Not to mention voice acting is one of the most difficult forms of acting. Lipsynching while keeping in character, and acting at the same time is something best left for the professionals.
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Not to mention voice acting is one of the most difficult forms of acting. Lipsynching while keeping in character, and acting at the same time is something best left for the professionals.


If you're talking about the original voice actings (not the dubs), don't they record the voices first and do the animations later? That way its easier for the voice actor.
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Not to mention voice acting is one of the most difficult forms of acting. Lipsynching while keeping in character, and acting at the same time is something best left for the professionals.


If you're talking about the original voice actings (not the dubs), don't they record the voices first and do the animations later? That way its easier for the voice actor.


Which makes it all the more demanding on the dub voice actors.
I'm not sure if what you say is accurate (because I'm too lazy to do research), but that would mean that an English dub has to overcome another hurdle. If you ask me, we're better off with the subbed Japanese versions.
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I don't think so - Devil May Cry went off without a hitch, despite having already gotten VA's for the games...I think a english Version would be just fine if Capcom Decided to acknowledge that the west DO want this too!

which essentially means they HAVE to publically realise that the west are ACTUALLY fans of this game in the same vein:
Impossible, No - Improbable, a little more so.

I also believe that it's done the other way around on occasion - VA's can sometimes study the way the finished characters speak, and try to work with that as best they can.
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I don't think so - Devil May Cry went off without a hitch, despite having already gotten VA's for the games...I think a english Version would be just fine if Capcom Decided to acknowledge that the west DO want this too!

which essentially means they HAVE to publically realise that the west are ACTUALLY fans of this game in the same vein:
Impossible, No - Improbable, a little more so.


The AA investigations in the USA is due for release over a half year after the Japanese release. Translation isn't such an easy job, you know. They have hundreds of thousands of words of text, and they have to be grammatically accurate as well as funny. They would only make the anime if they acknowledged that it would attract hundreds of hits. Like the guy earlier said, little boys who watch animes often are inclined to robot ninjas beating the shit out of each other rather than a boring court proceeding.
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Doesn't have to be limited to Court scenes - there's a lot you can do with it, outside and inside of court...the series promotes 'Thinking outside the box', and there's no reason that a potential Anime wouldn't have that show through in it's plots.

It's not LIKELY to happen, since this is just one popular japanese magazine declaring what they want. It's SERIOUSLY unlikely that anything will come of it, since polls and declarations like this are made all the time, and rarely anything comes of it.

Also, not all Anime needs Robots - look at more subtle and down-to-earth shows...they can mix humour and drama in any setting, so long as it's convincing and the audience for it exists. Which it does.
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VeryHappyTaffy wrote:
DeMatador wrote:
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Not to mention voice acting is one of the most difficult forms of acting. Lipsynching while keeping in character, and acting at the same time is something best left for the professionals.


If you're talking about the original voice actings (not the dubs), don't they record the voices first and do the animations later? That way its easier for the voice actor.


Which makes it all the more demanding on the dub voice actors.
I'm not sure if what you say is accurate (because I'm too lazy to do research), but that would mean that an English dub has to overcome another hurdle. If you ask me, we're better off with the subbed Japanese versions.


I think it is accurate, or at least it's a method of inserting voices into an animation.
Yes, that presents a problem for dubbing voice actors. My guess is they just take timing into consideration, and try to follow specific expressions, like when a character emphasizes the mouth gesture. If the character's speaking normally, they probably don't follow lipsynching that much.

@Sebastian Stark:

It is very likely to happen, in my opinion. It's not just a magazine, it's the readers of one of the most popular Japanese gaming magazines. I'm sure that if Famitsu did the same poll, they would have similar results. That's because Japanese gamers (most of them) want a GS anime.

Did you read, some months ago, that Gyakuten Kenji was the second best selling game in Japan in the first weeks after its release, after Kingdom Hearts 358/2 Days? Japan really likes Gyakuten Saiban, and its starting to be popular in America and Europe too. So, if Capcom is smart enough, they will make a Gyakuten Saiban anime, and they will attract much more fans, who probably never played the games, but liked the anime, so, after knowing it was "based off the Gyakuten Saiban games", they would try them out. For example, after watching some episodes of Death Note, I wanted to play the DS games. Unfortunately, they are just in Japanese, but if they ever get localized, I'll play them, because I like the anime.

EDIT: Also, to anyone doubting they'll find good voice actors:
Remember the Tokyo Game Show animations. Almost every year they make an animated special (very similar to the games, not a very fluid animation) for the occasion, and they use text, and voice acting.

That makes me wonder, will there be one this year? In TGS2006 they announced the main character of GS4, and every other was significantlty important. But they probably do it every 2 years (2006-2008-2010, etc), so at the very least we might get an announcement this year. I'm REALLY hoping for an AA Anime announced in TGS2009...
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The AA investigations in the USA is due for release over a half year after the Japanese release. Translation isn't such an easy job, you know. They have hundreds of thousands of words of text, and they have to be grammatically accurate as well as funny. They would only make the anime if they acknowledged that it would attract hundreds of hits. Like the guy earlier said, little boys who watch animes often are inclined to robot ninjas beating the shit out of each other rather than a boring court proceeding.



Well you've just stated pretty much all the 4'kids anime dubs. But other anime (such as Paranoia Agent, Ghost in the Shell, Death Note, just off the top of my head) are story driven rather than action driven.

But little boys aren't the targeted demographic (at least in the US). If an Ace Attorney anime is made, the targeted audience will likely be teenagers, or fans of the series.
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Heck, a one shot OVA DVD Promotional idea would work...that way it could be distributed in the west with Subtitles, since AA Fans are used to reading anyway. No need for them to make a complete series right off the bat if they can get away with a few one-shot Disc-only episodes first.
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Heck, a one shot OVA DVD Promotional idea would work...that way it could be distributed in the west with Subtitles, since AA Fans are used to reading anyway. No need for them to make a complete series right off the bat if they can get away with a few one-shot Disc-only episodes first.

True. Even subtitles would be a lot of work--almost as much as, say, one case--but it would certainly be easier than redoing the voices. Plus, it would give the company a chance to test an AA anime's marketability in certain areas.
Which, I guess, was the whole points of that post. (Is repetitive.)
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Sebastian Stark wrote:
Heck, a one shot OVA DVD Promotional idea would work...that way it could be distributed in the west with Subtitles, since AA Fans are used to reading anyway. No need for them to make a complete series right off the bat if they can get away with a few one-shot Disc-only episodes first.


I agree.
Then, if that works fine (and it surely will), they won't doubt in making more DVDs, or broadcast it on TV.
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neoswordmaster wrote:
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The AA investigations in the USA is due for release over a half year after the Japanese release. Translation isn't such an easy job, you know. They have hundreds of thousands of words of text, and they have to be grammatically accurate as well as funny. They would only make the anime if they acknowledged that it would attract hundreds of hits. Like the guy earlier said, little boys who watch animes often are inclined to robot ninjas beating the shit out of each other rather than a boring court proceeding.



Well you've just stated pretty much all the 4'kids anime dubs. But other anime (such as Paranoia Agent, Ghost in the Shell, Death Note, just off the top of my head) are story driven rather than action driven.

But little boys aren't the targeted demographic (at least in the US). If an Ace Attorney anime is made, the targeted audience will likely be teenagers, or fans of the series.


The number of which is negligible, at least in the United States, compared to those other guys. Knowledge AA lore requires the purchase of the AA games, which automatically cuts down on the number of possible viewers. I mean, I was pressed by a friend to play AA, and I thought it was incredibly banal at first. Only through her insistence did I gradually realize its greatness. And I'm sixteen!
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The AA investigations in the USA is due for release over a half year after the Japanese release. Translation isn't such an easy job, you know. They have hundreds of thousands of words of text, and they have to be grammatically accurate as well as funny. They would only make the anime if they acknowledged that it would attract hundreds of hits. Like the guy earlier said, little boys who watch animes often are inclined to robot ninjas beating the shit out of each other rather than a boring court proceeding.



Well you've just stated pretty much all the 4'kids anime dubs. But other anime (such as Paranoia Agent, Ghost in the Shell, Death Note, just off the top of my head) are story driven rather than action driven.

But little boys aren't the targeted demographic (at least in the US). If an Ace Attorney anime is made, the targeted audience will likely be teenagers, or fans of the series.


The number of which is negligible, at least in the United States, compared to those other guys. Knowledge AA lore requires the purchase of the AA games, which automatically cuts down on the number of possible viewers. I mean, I was pressed by a friend to play AA, and I thought it was incredibly banal at first. Only through her insistence did I gradually realize its greatness. And I'm sixteen!


Same here, I actually thought the idea of this game was pretty stupid...

I was lucky I watched it on YouTube to see how good it really is...
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Hmmmm I could probably see the writers taking a little bit of liberty with the storyline. As someone said before they can't go case by case from the game. They would have to have episodes based off of the cases from the games but they would have to add in alot more. I can see them stretching cases out as well....for example let's do Turnabout Sisters.


Turnabout Sisters (murder and investigation)- to be continued


Turnabout Sisters Pt 2 (trial) to be continued

Turnabout Sisters Pt 3 (investigation) to be continued

Turnabout Sisters Finale (trial)

As you can see that's 1 case that stretches out to 4 episodes. Also this is a pretty short case in the game. Imagine what Rise from the Ashes would be like? Or Bridge to the Turnabout?

I don't want to get anyone mad but I can also predict Apollo Justice being either a sequel or a spinoff. (Probably a sequel) :odoroki:
Ace Attorney Investigations would most likely be a spinoff though. :edgeworth: :eh?:

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I'd like to see some GS5 info at TGS 2009...
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I would absolutely love it if they made an AA anime. And I'd love it even more if that anime came to America, in English!
I don't know what you all are worried about; they don't edit anime any more unless they're putting it childrens' TV stations. And I'm pretty sure 4Kids doesn't care about AA one bit :garyuu:
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I'm a bit late, here, but the animations are done to the dubbing only in video games. That way, lipsync is the animators' job.

However, in anime, the lip movements are set in stone, whereas a video game can have the animation altered within the 3D object. Thus, anime voice actors have one of the hardest acting jobs. Considering Ben Judd, the voice of Phoenix's Objection, is a programmer and the program lead for the localization, we're completely unlikely to get accurate voices, anyway.


Moving on, I want this to happen with all my heart, I really do. But, I just don't see it happening. At least, not for a few more years, if at all. GS hasn't quite reached critical mass in the primary market, just yet. Within 2 or 3 years, it will likely hit that point. And, when that happens, I'll watch it as it happens.

By the by, the first game alone, considering the DS port as canon, would contain as many as 29 or 30 episodes, more than a standard season. Add the other 2 Phoenix Wrights and Apollo Justice and GS5, and you've got either a really long-running series or a metaseries. Either way, we win, and so do the producers. PROFIT!

By the by, 2 years given, because that's the window I see GS5 finding release by, and that's the point when it should reach critical mass in Japan.
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If they make an anime, I have a feeling it may be a sequel to or a spin-off of Apollo Justice.
Since everything in the Phoenix arc is already done and all.

Unless they decided to do spin-off episodes about cases that took place outside the cases we've played in the games.
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If they make an anime, I have a feeling it may be a sequel to or a spin-off of Apollo Justice.
Since everything in the Phoenix arc is already done and all.

Unless they decided to do spin-off episodes about cases that took place outside the cases we've played in the games.

Well, you see, the Phoenix arc is apparently complete. (We still can't rule it out for GS5)

And that is exactly why it's more likely to happen. There would be no need to have a dedicated storywriter or anything, just an animation team and studio. The Phoenix story is all already there. It'd be much cheaper and faster to produce, plus they wouldn't have to worry about making up things that end up clashing with future games.

It's more likely that they'd make PW:AA and move on as they went to AJ:AA and GS5 and so on, maybe even having a GK spinoff or something.
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Anyone have a voice actor they have in mind for a certain character?
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neoswordmaster wrote:
Anyone have a voice actor they have in mind for a certain character?

:edgeworth: Crispin Freeman

That's the only one whose name I can think of off the top of my head.

I'm happy as long as Yuri Lowenthal and John Bosch stay the hell out of it. :gant:
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Mike Christiansen wrote:
neoswordmaster wrote:
Anyone have a voice actor they have in mind for a certain character?

:edgeworth: Crispin Freeman

That's the only one whose name I can think of off the top of my head.

I'm happy as long as Yuri Lowenthal and John Bosch stay the hell out of it. :gant:

1. Freeman can only be Edgeworth. MAYBE Godot.
2. Johnny Yong Bosch is a great voice actor. And I think he would suit Larry very well.
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Regarding the plot, I'm hoping for the Phoenix arc, but cases absolutely separate from the in-game ones. They can even have a super-side-plot, like the Fey Clan and all were for the GS1-3 storyline, but exclusively for the anime, so they don't mess it up with the storyline of past or future games.

God, every time I read any post in this thread I'm more excited Capcom does make an AA anime. I don't care whoever dubs the English version, or anything like that, I just hope that they make it, and that it fits the style of the Ace Attorney series, without having to be just fixed backgrounds with sprites.
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I know that the lady who voices Candace in the Pokemon anime should do Ini Miney....or Maya.... :udgy:
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I am anticipating this for one reason: physical comedy.

Sahwit's toupee, and Phoenix's face when it falls off.
Maya falling when she casts out the fishing pole... and sets off Lotta's camera... again.
Pearl + Nick = :moe-laugh:
Ben & Trilo.
:ack: :ka-whip:
Phoenix taking the necklace.
Maya whacking Phoenix with the Shichishito.
Furio Tigre.
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CHORDS OF STEEL
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