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Cheers Sandwich! Thank you for the Tutorial.
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Marshmello wrote:
Whenever it was that I last looked at this thread, I asked how to make animated *.gif's in Photoshop, and I have finally found my answer. One cannot make animations in Photoshop itself, but packaged with Photoshop 5.5, 6, 7, CS, and CS2 is a program called Adobe ImageReady, which is slightly tedious but can be used to make animated *.gif's.

If anyone's interested I'd be happy to make up a tutorial.

Or you could just do the animation sprites in several layers and click 'save for web' in photoshop like I do....
It automatically animates the sprites IN THE ORDER FROM BOTTOM TO TOP. So keep that in mind.

What I am doing for my videos right now (well, video) is a somewhat complex process.
1: Download the free program called 'format factory' and install it.
2: Open up your animated GIF in photoshop (or your photoshop equivalent that has a 'save for web' feature)
3: Using the bucket tool, fill in any and all backgrounds with a color not on the sprite, bright green is the color I personally use. do this for all layers of the animation.
4: Once you're done, click save for web on your program and export it as a gif, make sure that it's animated and that you set the delay to 0.0 seconds.
5: Open the gif in Format Factory and click the video formats option; select your export format(Make sure it's a format compatible with your video editing software. I personally use WMV) file destination, and name.
6: Click the click to start button and let the format factory do it's job :)
7: Congratulations, you can now use your animated gif in video editing programs! Just be sure that when you use them that your program has a 'chroma key' effect. Use multi track editing for everything else that you need to put in your video. Good luck and happy hunting :phoenix:
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Narutard 1.5 wrote:
Marshmello wrote:
One cannot make animations in Photoshop itself, but packaged with Photoshop 5.5, 6, 7, CS, and CS2 is a program called Adobe ImageReady, which is slightly tedious but can be used to make animated *.gif's.


Actually i use Imagesready to animate gifs, but i use a different method
There is an option called Import / Folder as layer.
That can be used when you save your layers at a .png format
*Example animating Apollo blinking
Inside a folder called @Apollo blink
are 3 .png files
1 Apollo / Eyes open
2 Apollo / Halo opened eyes
3 Apollo/ Closed eyes
then Using imagesready select that option and import the folder, i think its A-z 1-9 Order based.
then a screen should appear with your layers
and you are able to choose the duration of all of them so the animation use that time instead of in this case Blinking like there is no tomorrow.
Thats just my method that i would like to share if someone is interested:phoenix:
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Marshmello wrote:
How do you make animated *.gif's in Photoshop?

(I = Photoshop noob)

Dunno if this is answered yet....
You make each frame of the animation a layer (frame one = layer one, frame two = layer two and so on) and then click save for web...
So.... yeah....

You can save as a gif normally, but save for web lets you put a time delay inbetween frames..
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To make sprite please start it with microsoft paint after that. If you want these png becoming gif you just combine many png as much as you want.
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Is there a tutorial on downscaling? I've seen other users take an HD sprite and "downscale" it to the standard size (What even is the standard size, by the way?) (I use Photoshop CS5)
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Aquabreeze wrote:
Is there a tutorial on downscaling? I've seen other users take an HD sprite and "downscale" it to the standard size (What even is the standard size, by the way?) (I use Photoshop CS5)

It's similar to the tutorial here.

Basically it involves resizing the sprite to fit a DS screen (256x192px), and compare the sprite with DS ones to check if it's the right size. If you want to reduce the palette, that's a different step in "Save for Web and Devices" that hasn't got a tutorial for it yet.. but there should be like a thing that says "Colors" with a number. The drop-down which should be to the left of it with "Adaptive" "Restrictive" changes the way Photoshop chooses the colours. The last time I checked, there wasn't a guide on the internet for how to manually select a palette, rather than automating it, so if you want that then play around a bit with the thing. You can select a colour with the eyedropper, and then a box should appear over that colour in the swatch area, and the lock icon will lock that colour there and forces the algorithm to use it. Double-clicking on one of the colours can bring up a dialog for shifting that colour, so all of the bits with the original colour become the new colour, and there's another button somewhere that can unshift. There's a little menu that can 'unshift all' or save and load palettes. It's also possible to save a palette via the same menu that controls image colours, where the "Grayscale" "RGB" options are there should be something called "Indexed color". AJ sprites have 32 colours, PW have 16.

Sorry I'm going off memory here so someone correct me if I'm wrong.
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So, I've got a question on anti-aliasing. I'm working on a Fire Emblem/Ace Attorney crossover and making my own sprites from scratch, and I'm mostly happy with the results, but they look a little sharp for the Ace Attorney style since I was only using the binary pencil tool. It seems like there's some anti-aliasing done on the canon sprites, but I'm not sure what brush settings to use to get that effect and I just don't think I can pull it off manually. I'm using Paint Tool SAI if anybody's familiar with that, but I can switch to Photoshop if necessary. Thanks!
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I think it looks really good as it is! With Anti-aliasing, I do it manually as a final step so pixel by pixel, putting in the slight shading around the inside of the outline. You could use the brush tool at 1 px and sharpen the outlines with the pencil afterwards. (And clean the ousides of the outline). Whatever works best for you.

I should mention the official AA sprites were full sized drawings scaled down and with a decreased colour palette, so you can always draw them larger and scale it down?
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I think it looks really good as it is! With Anti-aliasing, I do it manually as a final step so pixel by pixel, putting in the slight shading around the inside of the outline. You could use the brush tool at 1 px and sharpen the outlines with the pencil afterwards. (And clean the ousides of the outline). Whatever works best for you.

I should mention the official AA sprites were full sized drawings scaled down and with a decreased colour palette, so you can always draw them larger and scale it down?


I had done a bit of the manual anti-aliasing on the sprite I posted, but since I'm doing all these sprites on my own I wanted to see if there was a faster way I could do it that would keep to the style of the games.

Scaling-down might be viable. The first fake screen I made was with a scaled-down drawing, though I didn't impose the color limitations on it. Looks like somebody covered how to do that in an earlier post here, so I'll have to try playing around with it! Thanks again. :)
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It's definitely faster scaling them down, then just doing minor edits. That way the bulk of it is all done at once.
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Thanks so much! :kristoph:
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Can you tell me the PROCESS of making a sprite.

This isn't necessarily helpful.

What do I DO when I make my sprites.

Step-by-step guide pls? :larry:
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HeroMan66475 wrote:
Can you tell me the PROCESS of making a sprite.

This isn't necessarily helpful.

What do I DO when I make my sprites.

Step-by-step guide pls? :larry:

Spriting in the AA style can be done 2 ways. Either you draw an image digitally and then scale it down into a sprite, or if you don't have a graphics tablet or a good program, you can do it pixel by pixel.

Either method, start by drawing the outline. Either use an existing sprite or just a reference image and try to outline the pose you want. If you're pixel spriting, use the shift key so you can juat click point to point and the line will draw for you.

So I guess step by step:
If using a graphics tablet:
- base sketch
- outline
- base colours (put each colour on a serparate layer under the outline if you can)
- shading (use the base colour's layers or create new ones above them)
- resize to fit into a 256x192px box and index

The reason I mention layers is so it's easier to then change things up if you change your mind.

For pixel spriting:
- trace out an outline in black (within a 256x192px canvas as that's the size of a DS screen)
- base colouring
- shading
- change your outline from black to a darker version of the colours used around it. (ie. If your character has an orange jacket, use a darker red/orange for its outline)
- then you manually anti-alias.

Anti-aliasing is just putting a lighter shade of a colour inbetween the points of an outline to make it look more smooth.
For example: (Using the "Orange Jacket" I mentioned as an example)
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On the left is before anti-aliasing. On the right is after.
It's just a smaller touch, but you use your existing palette and add a little smoothness between the lines to blend them in.
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POHLKUNKA!

So that's what the "anti-alias" function does! I'm such an idiot!
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SuperAj3 wrote:
HeroMan66475 wrote:
Can you tell me the PROCESS of making a sprite.

This isn't necessarily helpful.

What do I DO when I make my sprites.

Step-by-step guide pls? :larry:

Spriting in the AA style can be done 2 ways. Either you draw an image digitally and then scale it down into a sprite, or if you don't have a graphics tablet or a good program, you can do it pixel by pixel.

Either method, start by drawing the outline. Either use an existing sprite or just a reference image and try to outline the pose you want. If you're pixel spriting, use the shift key so you can juat click point to point and the line will draw for you.

So I guess step by step:
If using a graphics tablet:
- base sketch
- outline
- base colours (put each colour on a serparate layer under the outline if you can)
- shading (use the base colour's layers or create new ones above them)
- resize to fit into a 256x192px box and index

The reason I mention layers is so it's easier to then change things up if you change your mind.

For pixel spriting:
- trace out an outline in black (within a 256x192px canvas as that's the size of a DS screen)
- base colouring
- shading
- change your outline from black to a darker version of the colours used around it. (ie. If your character has an orange jacket, use a darker red/orange for its outline)
- then you manually anti-alias.

Anti-aliasing is just putting a lighter shade of a colour inbetween the points of an outline to make it look more smooth.
For example: (Using the "Orange Jacket" I mentioned as an example)
Image
On the left is before anti-aliasing. On the right is after.
It's just a smaller touch, but you use your existing palette and add a little smoothness between the lines to blend them in.


Actually your guide is not half bad.....for the pixel spriting thing, the obly thing I have available is paint.

So for base colouring....I just colour in my sprite normally before going to the next step which is shading?
I hope I'm saying it right. Well let me go and try to do shit.
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HeroMan66475 wrote:
Actually your guide is not half bad.....for the pixel spriting thing, the obly thing I have available is paint.


I'd recommend not using Paint, since it doesn't have a transparency function (meaning your backgrounds will all show up white, rather than see through). There are lots of free art programs that you can download which let you do this. Lots of people recommend Gimp.
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HeroMan66475 wrote:
Actually your guide is not half bad.....for the pixel spriting thing, the obly thing I have available is paint.

So for base colouring....I just colour in my sprite normally before going to the next step which is shading?
I hope I'm saying it right. Well let me go and try to do shit.

Thank you :will:
And with the colouring, use the bucket tool to just fill in your outline (Paint doesn't have layers), and then draw the shading on top of it. Give it a try first and see how it comes out. I think Paint can work if you have the patience, but you might not be able to trace a sprite in it (because lack of layers).
I've heard GIMP is a good program? Haven't used it myself but it's free.
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SuperAj3 wrote:
HeroMan66475 wrote:
Actually your guide is not half bad.....for the pixel spriting thing, the obly thing I have available is paint.

So for base colouring....I just colour in my sprite normally before going to the next step which is shading?
I hope I'm saying it right. Well let me go and try to do shit.

Thank you :will:
And with the colouring, use the bucket tool to just fill in your outline (Paint doesn't have layers), and then draw the shading on top of it. Give it a try first and see how it comes out. I think Paint can work if you have the patience, but you might not be able to trace a sprite in it (because lack of layers).
I've heard GIMP is a good program? Haven't used it myself but it's free.


Paint is all I have, can't use anything else....buuuuuuuuuut...........I'll give your colouring advice while I can, when you say use the paint bucket tool for the outline....you do mean all the colouring within the lines, right?
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Yes. To colour inside the lines. Use the pencil tool to draw the lines.
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SuperAj3 wrote:
Yes. To colour inside the lines. Use the pencil tool to draw the lines.


Got it! Just confirming and stuff.
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