Waiting on Godot...
Location: New Zealand
Rank: Ace Attorney
Joined: Mon Jul 21, 2008 9:23 am
Sorry; I'm kind of really shaky about my self confidence, I'll admit. And I was really tired, in a bad mood anyway, and I felt bad that I had made a bit of a slip of words. And then it kind of tumbled down to my general issues with drawing, and I overreacted a bit. I apologize for that.
(Also, I guess you noticed, but I have comparison syndrome. I compare myself to pros in everything I do, from cooking to sports to table manners. Probably why I have the aforementioned issues.
Everyone suffers from that. I do sometimes too. You MUST remember though that you WILL improve no matter how fast you do cause every picture you draw teaches you something. However, this is to say that you'll be 40 and still drawing a better version of what you draw now if you don't get pointers on how to improve :) Not everyone becomes a Devinci. Most wont. I know alot of artists that would wish there were as good as you at art. Sounds stupid, but it's true. Some people honestly believe they'll never be able to draw so when they do, they don't try and it comes out wonky. Just compare current you to 1 year ago you. Did you improve? Yes. That is what is important. Aspire from other artists. Don't pretend to be them. You'll become your own artist in the end :)
Thank you very much; I can see the improvements. I actually REALLY half-baked everything but the face, but thank you anyway. xD
No you didn't. As I said, there are a few rules and tips to learn. It'd be a bad picture for you if you knew better and still did it. You didn't though so it was the best you can do. Don't beat yourself up over it. It honestly was a great first attempt at realism.
- I did actually intend for her to be more mature. ^^; But young is okay, too.
Urgh- I wondered if I screwed that up T.T Imagine her with a longer nose and you'll be fine ^^; It's hard to tell age in shoujo styles
- I don't know what race I was intending her to be; I was just drawing from memory how I had see some faces the past couple days. I think I must have seen a lot of heart shaped faces or something cause I think that's what happened. We'll call her "alien" for now.
Don't call her alien- she isn't one. Just generic is fine. I was just asking cause she had a pointed chin. If you round it off a little it'd be more effeminate in a western way. I asked because I found chinese had pointed faces but they're softer shaped generally too.
- I actually do reference myself in a mirror more than using stocks, if that's what you mean by real life referencing; the stock thing is new. ^^; I guess it's time to be a creeper again and draw random people off the street... o_O
I wouldn't life draw. Stay with photos for now. I use to use heaps of stock referances then I took 2 terms of life drawing and realised that I had to relearn perspective. Unless you want to know the human form familiarly, stock photos are fine and less stalkerish XD The problem is translating 3D to 2D. Going off a mirror should be ok cause the mirror flattens the perspective.
- I CG once a month, for my watchers on dA, so I think I can push through it, but yeah, I've kind of ditched it for now. I swear, I like my (extremely) small pool of watchers too much.
I wish I could afford high quality colored pencils (trust me, I kind of drool over them at the art store), but alas, I am a poor 15 year old who can't legally get a job in her state yet. ;A;
Urgh- don't draw for watchers, eh? I know this seems stupid, but it actually makes art less fun if you force yourself to use stuff you don't like. Best to stick to what you enjoy using. If they don't like it then they can stick it. You're not going to get better in a medium you don't enjoy using. Question- what program do you use, and do you lineart by hand then scan it or draw directly into the computer?
- Now, with the shoulders, I actually was intending her to be facing forward but with her head tilted away from the camera. It's kind of hard to tell, I suppose.
... it was a little cryptic ^^; Mine is mostly forwards anyways- it's only slightly facing the front so if you make the arms fleshed out equally on both sides and the collar bone in the centre then that'll be the biggest difference ^^;
- With the eyes, on that one, I was actually having trouble cause I screwed up with my pencils and I lack a good eraser. D: I admit I do lean towards simplicity, so you definitely have a point; I've been experimenting a little with trying to make them prettier, though. Are there any tips you can offer up? Here's some stand alone eyes with more how I usually draw them: http://icey-chan.deviantart.com/gallery ... s#/d3k7uq3
(Somewhat unrelated story: I actually developed my current eye style from practicing realism. derp derp dunno how that happened. They used to be really narrow, REALLY HUGE, and with no pupils.)
Uh- I'd look for a tutorial on drawing anime eyes. There's alot of detail you can put in to make them prettier and not lose the shoujo feel. This one may help
- I admit, I do have trouble with ears. I have an on-going battle with them raging. Thanks for the tips on that one. ^^
No problem. Ears are hard on anime. I should know. DBZ ears are elephant sized. Took me ages to bleed that out of my style.
- I actually also have troubles on noses. xD They throw me! I have so much trouble getting them right that I just simplify them as much as I possibly can. @_@ What really causes trouble for me is forward view with the noses.
With noses facing forwards, I just draw the bottom of the nose and a line offset from the middle down the length to show form. Like in my avatar (That's Sheena dressed up as Lady Gaga XD
I'll take note of the proportion sizes for today's sketch and try to redraw that one. Considering I ran over it despite the fact that I actually liked it a lot.
Sorry for ranting a lot; I'm a bit talkative, if you haven't noticed.
(And I would talk even MORE if I didn't have to go.
You're kidding- you seen my reply comments? O.o Art is more about visuals to explaining visuals take AGES. What you need to do is write down a list of goals. Simple goals like Improving eyes, improving expression, faces, form etc... Boil your goals to easy to tackle things and research them. Draw 100 eyes. 50 of men, 50 of women but in different expressions and styles. That kinda of thing. Find something you like. Do that and bit by bit learn your form. You want to learn body proportion? Find a tutorial on it and try a few different types. Not just the cute ones. Try chibi and 1:6, sure, but also try 1:8. IF you're wanting to try how someone else draws it, get permission first, or try it and don't post it. Try different styles so you know WHY you don't like drawing realism. I know I hate using watercolours- not cause they're scarey looking, but because I tried it and didn't like it.
Last thing, proper graphite pencils and ink pens aren't expensive and generally the quality doesn't vary alot. I do all my pencil renders in this pencil set
which cost me $30NZD, but it's cheaper in America ($20USD)
. Blending stumps
are non essential but handy for getting rid of pencil marks for a smooth look. the ink pens I use are Copic Multiliner
which I admit aren't cheap (Amazon have them for $20 for a set
though so that's not too bad- it's more than that in NZ), but there are other ink brands which have a similar product and work just as nicely. Having a solid ink line can make a WORLD of difference to the quality of your art. I use to use only the 0.3mm pen nibs, but I now use 0.03, 0.3, and 0.5mm pens for my art for line variation. I'd suggest getting 0.3mm and going from there. I suggest a retractable eraser for fine erasing, I use Uni auto eraser
because it's fine, and a 2H pencil so that the lines are easy to erase. A mechanical pencil is SO handy for this. I use a Faber Castell
one, it's nice to hold cause it's triangle and has tiny rubber grips. Only issue i have with it is that it only holds 0.7mm leads which aren't common in New Zealand and they're larger than normal. IT's not a finishing pencil though so it's ok. If you finish in pencil though, you'll want a sealant
or your pictures will die a blurry death. Not a huge issue with sketches, more of an issue with 3B+ pencil leads.
Oh, and ALWAYS have a sharp pencil
Sorry for comment spam guys. I REALLY have to work on my comic now- Haven't forgotten you Golden Luxray! Send me a note via DA if you need me to get back faster- k? You know me there I'm sure.