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Hey, this is my first sprite comic using my oc's :godot: (As if you didn't know that)

Spoiler: Loyal Turnabout: Episode 1
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Spoiler: Loyal Turnabout: Episode 2
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(I'm getting the title for Laziest Spriter Evah! for this one, XD)

Spoiler: Loyal Turnabout: Episode 3
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Spoiler: Loyal Turnabout: Episode 4
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Spoiler: Loyal Turnabout: Episode 5
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Spoiler: Loyal Turnabout: Episode 6
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Spoiler: Loyal Turnabout: Episode 7
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Spoiler: Loyal Turnabout: Episode 8
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Spoiler: Turnabout Mafia: Episode 1
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Spoiler: Turnabout Mafia: Episode 2
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Spoiler: Turnabout Mafia: Episode 3
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Spoiler: Turnabout Mafia: Episode 4
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Spoiler: Turnabout Mafia: Episode 5
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Spoiler: Turnabout Mafia: Episode 6
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In one of these comics, I used Glace Leau's Kristoph In-court sprite. He gave me permission to use it in an Ace Attorney Online Trial, but, I lost interest in that. So, I used it in here.
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NOTE: I made this on paint, so I think I did a pretty damn good job, XD


What's this about people thinking so lowly of Paint? I can make one just like this on it, maybe better. Oh, that's not an "eff this comic" thing there, no need to take that thing off or apologise to me. Just ignore this paragraph, in fact. Just my rants about the underestimated Paint.

In short, it's a good start.

Krissy seems a bit out-of-character here.

I saw the sprites today. Pretty good.
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DramaticaXIV2 wrote:
FoolMeNever wrote:
NOTE: I made this on paint, so I think I did a pretty damn good job, XD


What's this about people thinking so lowly of Paint? I can make one just like this on it, maybe better. Oh, that's not an "eff this comic" thing there, no need to take that thing off or apologise to me. Just ignore this paragraph, in fact. Just my rants about the underestimated Paint.

XD

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In short, it's a good start.


Thanks :will:

DramaticaXIV2 wrote:
Krissy seems a bit out-of-character here.


You think so? :yuusaku:

DramaticaXIV2 wrote:
I saw the sprites today. Pretty good.

Thanks :will:
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Ah, it feels SO good to have the old spoiler tags :will:

And, I've added 3 new pages to it, XD

Spoiler: Loyal Turnabout: Episode 2
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(I'm getting the title for Laziest Spriter Evah! for this one, XD)

Spoiler: Loyal Turnabout: Episode 3
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Spoiler: Loyal Turnabout: Episode 4
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Hmph, just realized I forgot to do the grey backround, XD
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Nice! I get your pun, Lowan Order. (Law and Order) =P
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What human could possibly NOT get that pun...? xD
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Greeny wrote:
What human could possibly NOT get that pun...? xD


Larry Butz, and I think that's about it. :damon:

I know, I can be a bitch at times. :gant:
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New one up :D

Spoiler: Loyal Turnabout: Episode 5
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Yes, I know part of it is in JPG :payne: I accidentally saved it in JPG while working on it.
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I'm sorry, but really, dude... LIGHT BLUE ON WHITE IS NOT READABLE! >_<
Try changing it to a black background.

I'm also getting curious about what happens when the judge yells "ORDER! ORDER!" xD
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Loved that comment "I thought slavery was illegal!" Idiotic comments from an up-and-coming attorney are always funny.
I'm gone for so long, and the colors got all psychedelic! Woohoo!
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Greeny wrote:
I'm sorry, but really, dude... LIGHT BLUE ON WHITE IS NOT READABLE! >_<
Try changing it to a black background.

I'm also getting curious about what happens when the judge yells "ORDER! ORDER!" xD


I'm gonna change as soon as I figure out how the hell I get it to look like your comic (I.E, the text blocks looking like the real deal.)

EDIT: Actually, I may have figured it out, XD except the parts of the characters would be missing XD
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"T-this is unjust badgering of the prosecution!"

Why did I find that line so funny?
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DramaticaXIV2 wrote:
"T-this is unjust badgering of the prosecution!"

Why did I find that line so funny?


Because it's something Payne would actually say, XD

New Episode :D

Spoiler: Loyal Turnabout: Episode 6
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If you don't get the "Paynette" joke, (you probably won't) it's a running joke with my friends, we joke about how Payne looks like a girl with that hair.
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Again, those last three panels were hilarious. And wow, Lowan brought him down quick. Even faster than Sahwit, and Sahwit was pathetic. One problem: I interpreted "hella stabbed Ms. May" as "stabbed Ms. May to hell" which would mean multiple times. But then I must have just misunderstood. Oh, and new text boxes.
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DramaticaXIV2 wrote:
Again, those last three panels were hilarious. And wow, Lowan brought him down quick. Even faster than Sahwit, and Sahwit was pathetic. One problem: I interpreted "hella stabbed Ms. May" as "stabbed Ms. May to hell" which would mean multiple times. But then I must have just misunderstood. Oh, and new text boxes.


Thanks :D and no, that's not was I was going for XD, I got the idea from Cartman, from Southpark, when he was trying to sound ghetto, by saying hella over, and over, and over.
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I sense a contradiction in the defense's theory.
If mr Ghett was really the killer...
He would know that the victim was stabbed multiple times! :think:

I'm not saying that your comic is bad, but let me say something.
(It's more of a rant on my opinion of most sprite comics I see,
so don't take it personally.) Now, I know it's the first case, but
I'm seeing that in most sprite comics, you always see the same
Thing happening; the case is built around the facts, not the
other way around. Dull contradictions and fast victory is the
result. It makes for a 'generic' sprite comic. I mean, new
guy, is a bit nervous, testimony with a witness, he's the killer,
he says something contradictory with the evidence and then
the new guy points it out, case closed. Sound familliar?
I believe that it's a result of people wanting to make a sprite
comic with their OC - they make custom sprites and
everything, but eventually forget to make a case. I'm not
saying that you haven't thought about it, but the problem is
this: If you make a case around your facts, you just make
up what happened through a set of facts and make the
killer slip up in that. Now, one more thing- you see,
I know it's the first case, a simple one. But still, remember
Sahwit? His case hung around a clock, not a blatant
and obvious contradiction with the facts. Wellington...?
He had a well-built case. Dahlia? It was obvious how?
And I'm not even going to start about AJ's first case.
Consider the fact that the killer isn't going to let
himself slip up just because it's the lawyer's first
case. And if you're doing a sprite comic especially,
there's no need for a 'tutorial' case, is there?

I know, I'm a critic. Bit hey, it's constructive;
Now, I know I'm being all negative, but how 'bout
I make it up to you by giving some advice for
a next case. I'm hoping we'll finally start seeing
some real cases around here, soon.

Now here's what I think you should consider doing: (see,
I'm giving you advice, so once more, don't take it personally. ^_^")
- Start with what really happened. Who killed who, what is
the relation, etc...
- Then, come up with the defendant. Try and figure out
a way, with the facts in hand, for the police to suspect him
instead of the real killer - or even have the killer take
action to frame him.
- Now, instead of making the killer a total idiot to blatantly
contradict the facts, you'll have to see it from the truth's
point of view. You've come up with a way for the police
to be wrong - instead of making the killer slip up, why
not try and figure it out yourself? There is no perfect
crime, after all.
- Having done that, you have to figure out a way for
your OC to find this truth. Does the killer mistakenly
reveal critical information previously unknown?
Does the evidence have something hidden in it...?
Or maybe you can do something really unexpected.
Something that's not happened before in the AA series.
Why not make the killer get away? Or an innocent
verdict while we still don't know who did it? How
about going for a 'third person' complot?
The possibilities are endless.

Making it all come together is really hard, I know - but if
you can do that, you become one of the best sprite comic
makers there is! (Even with MS Paint. xD)

Ah, I rant too much.
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Greeny wrote:
I sense a contradiction in the defense's theory.
If mr Ghett was really the killer...
He would know that the victim was stabbed multiple times! :think:

I'm not saying that your comic is bad, but let me say something.
(It's more of a rant on my opinion of most sprite comics I see,
so don't take it personally.) Now, I know it's the first case, but
I'm seeing that in most sprite comics, you always see the same
Thing happening; the case is built around the facts, not the
other way around. Dull contradictions and fast victory is the
result. It makes for a 'generic' sprite comic. I mean, new
guy, is a bit nervous, testimony with a witness, he's the killer,
he says something contradictory with the evidence and then
the new guy points it out, case closed. Sound familliar?
I believe that it's a result of people wanting to make a sprite
comic with their OC - they make custom sprites and
everything, but eventually forget to make a case. I'm not
saying that you haven't thought about it, but the problem is
this: If you make a case around your facts, you just make
up what happened through a set of facts and make the
killer slip up in that. Now, one more thing- you see,
I know it's the first case, a simple one. But still, remember
Sahwit? His case hung around a clock, not a blatant
and obvious contradiction with the facts. Wellington...?
He had a well-built case. Dahlia? It was obvious how?
And I'm not even going to start about AJ's first case.
Consider the fact that the killer isn't going to let
himself slip up just because it's the lawyer's first
case. And if you're doing a sprite comic especially,
there's no need for a 'tutorial' case, is there?

I know, I'm a critic. Bit hey, it's constructive;
Now, I know I'm being all negative, but how 'bout
I make it up to you by giving some advice for
a next case. I'm hoping we'll finally start seeing
some real cases around here, soon.

Now here's what I think you should consider doing: (see,
I'm giving you advice, so once more, don't take it personally. ^_^")
- Start with what really happened. Who killed who, what is
the relation, etc...
- Then, come up with the defendant. Try and figure out
a way, with the facts in hand, for the police to suspect him
instead of the real killer - or even have the killer take
action to frame him.
- Now, instead of making the killer a total idiot to blatantly
contradict the facts, you'll have to see it from the truth's
point of view. You've come up with a way for the police
to be wrong - instead of making the killer slip up, why
not try and figure it out yourself? There is no perfect
crime, after all.
- Having done that, you have to figure out a way for
your OC to find this truth. Does the killer mistakenly
reveal critical information previously unknown?
Does the evidence have something hidden in it...?
Or maybe you can do something really unexpected.
Something that's not happened before in the AA series.
Why not make the killer get away? Or an innocent
verdict while we still don't know who did it? How
about going for a 'third person' complot?
The possibilities are endless.

Making it all come together is really hard, I know - but if
you can do that, you become one of the best sprite comic
makers there is! (Even with MS Paint. xD)

Ah, I rant too much.


tl:dr

XD, srsly though, thanks. The contradiction was a bit on the lacking side, I'll admit.

The motive is looking through things a different way though. (Atleast in my opinion.)
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New Updates!

Spoiler: Loyal Turnabout: Episode 7
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Spoiler: Loyal Turnabout: Episode 8
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I know, crappy first case >_<

Spoiler: Turnabout Mafia: Episode 1
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Spoiler: Turnabout Mafia: Episode 2
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This is madness!

Madness? No, THIS.IS.TRIPLE POST!

Yeah, sorry for the triple post, but this needs a bump. :payne:
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Paint still being a pain? GIMP is for me now. Yeah, as I've said >9000 times, this story is interesting me. Though Dirk seems to be a Larry clone...
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"A true sprite comic master can turn a crummy Larry edit into an epic tale of thrilling adventure"
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DramaticaXIV2 wrote:
Paint still being a pain? GIMP is for me now. Yeah, as I've said >9000 times, this story is interesting me. Though Dirk seems to be a Larry clone...


Actually, paint is working fine, I'm just being lazy XD, and yes, I know about Dirk :payne: I'm going to try to make him different enough from Larry (Actually having luck with the ladies, he's been with Viola for a long time, considering Lowan knew who she was, and being actually dumber than Larry, if that's possible.)

EDIT: Gah! Forgot about this!

Spoiler: Turnabout Mafia: Episode 3
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Crap. Just noticed a typo >_> It's supposed to say "don't KNOW why he's in a security outfit."
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Lowan needs to learn to stop thinking out loud.
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Is Lucky the official name of the head of Rivales? I've heard it here too:
http://aceattorney.free.fr/jeu.php?id_proces=1126
(Not mine, I sort of despise genodragon1)

Yay Viola. A bit talkative today.
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Since you've updated, I've decided to comment :D (I read your fanfic earlier, but didn't feel like it >.>)

Basically everything Greeny said: First case was a bit smeh (no offense), Dirk seems like a Larry clone but that doesn't mean you can't make him great and different, yadda yadda yadda. Not too much else to comment on since the second case has barely started.


I wonder why he would dye his hair blue.... maybe Viola has a fetish? :hotti: (HA! Yes, I do know it's dyed! :P)

The only thing that seems a bit off is Viola being the head of the Cadaverini family. I mean, wouldn't her father or Bruto be the head? Although that doesn't really change anything, since the head of the family sending his grand/daughter to do the peace agreement sounds like something reasonable (like sending her to show good will or something xD)
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Bad Player wrote:
Since you've updated, I've decided to comment :D (I read your fanfic earlier, but didn't feel like it >.>)

Basically everything Greeny said: First case was a bit smeh (no offense), Dirk seems like a Larry clone but that doesn't mean you can't make him great and different, yadda yadda yadda. Not too much else to comment on since the second case has barely started.


I wonder why he would dye his hair blue.... maybe Viola has a fetish? :hotti: (HA! Yes, I do know it's dyed! :P)

The only thing that seems a bit off is Viola being the head of the Cadaverini family. I mean, wouldn't her father or Bruto be the head? Although that doesn't really change anything, since the head of the family sending his grand/daughter to do the peace agreement sounds like something reasonable (like sending her to show good will or something xD)


Bruto was, in fact, the head of the Cadaverini family. But, as you know, my comic takes place 10 years after AJ, he was, what, 70 or 80 something in T&T? I think it would be obvious that he died, XD which would mean Viola would become head of family (Because, her parents aren't mentioned in the game, XD)

EDIT: Ok, maybe not obvious, but for the comic's sake, we'll assume he's dead :uramidn:
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FoolMeNever wrote:
my comic takes place 10 years after AJ

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DramaticaXIV2 wrote:
FoolMeNever wrote:
my comic takes place 10 years after AJ


Y'know. It took me 10 minutes to figure out why you did that.

I meant 3 years after AJ. Which would turn out to 10 years after T&T.

I don't know why I didn't figure that out earlier >_<
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It took me your post to figure that out. XD
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I can be confusing sometimes, but...
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FoolMeNever wrote:
DramaticaXIV2 wrote:
FoolMeNever wrote:
my comic takes place 10 years after AJ


Y'know. It took me 10 minutes to figure out why you did that.

I meant 3 years after AJ. Which would turn out to 10 years after T&T.

I don't know why I didn't figure that out earlier >_<


In that case, Viola really is evil. :uramidn:

I mean, she found the fountain of youth but didn't even tell her dear grandpa about it! :maya-shock:
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In that case, Viola really is evil. :uramidn:

I mean, she found the fountain of youth but didn't even tell her dear grandpa about it! :maya-shock:


XD this is more of case of crappy spriting, I would've edited her, but I truely suck at editing. (I'm even worse at spriting, compared to Ceres, Greeny, and, well, a lot of people, XD)
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Not even CAPCOM can compare to Ceres and Greeny.

And yes, I am still pushing my post count up there by commenting on every single post.
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FoolMeNever wrote:
Bad Player wrote:

In that case, Viola really is evil. :uramidn:

I mean, she found the fountain of youth but didn't even tell her dear grandpa about it! :maya-shock:


XD this is more of case of crappy spriting, I would've edited her, but I truely suck at editing. (I'm even worse at spriting, compared to Ceres, Greeny, and, well, a lot of people, XD)


I know, I was just messin' with ya :redd: It would've been better if CAPCOM had made it easier to edit out that stupid head-bandage, tho :S
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Bad Player wrote:
FoolMeNever wrote:
Bad Player wrote:

In that case, Viola really is evil. :uramidn:

I mean, she found the fountain of youth but didn't even tell her dear grandpa about it! :maya-shock:


XD this is more of case of crappy spriting, I would've edited her, but I truely suck at editing. (I'm even worse at spriting, compared to Ceres, Greeny, and, well, a lot of people, XD)


I know, I was just messin' with ya :redd: It would've been better if CAPCOM had made it easier to edit out that stupid head-bandage, tho :S


Yes, it would've >_< Also, I fixed a typo in the first page of Turnabout Mafia. Expect a new page soon, that will explain the relationship between Dirk and Lowan, also WHY Lowan became an attorney.
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Phew, finally got it done >_< Paint's being a pain in the ass again.

Spoiler: Turnabout Mafia: Episode 4
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Dirk's blue hair will be explained next time.

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The suspense is killing me! SPOIL IT! :meekins:

I couldn't help but notice greyscale. I sense Paint not being used? Also, ex-detectives are cool.
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DramaticaXIV2 wrote:
The suspense is killing me! SPOIL IT! :meekins:

I couldn't help but notice greyscale. I sense Paint not being used? Also, ex-detectives are cool.


Nope, still using Paint, XD finally got GIMP though, Colo didn't come out too well in the animation process >_< But, Paint's working :D

Spoiler: Turnabout Mafia: Episode 5
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Sweet! 2 pages in 1 day! xD

How exactly did he get a card? I thought the attorneys didn't... o_O

And I guess we're going to actually see what happened in the case now xD


btw, squee for me for figuring out his hair is dyed :butzthumbs: Brown goatee-thing + blue hair = something was dyed :nick:


Also, minor typo in your new chapter: second line, 1st and 2nd panel. You need to take out either 'since' or 'so' (just one)
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Bad Player wrote:
Sweet! 2 pages in 1 day! xD

How exactly did he get a card? I thought the attorneys didn't... o_O

And I guess we're going to actually see what happened in the case now xD


btw, squee for me for figuring out his hair is dyed :butzthumbs: Brown goatee-thing + blue hair = something was dyed :nick:


Also, minor typo in your new chapter: second line, 1st and 2nd panel. You need to take out either 'since' or 'so' (just one)


Well, recall Lowan was a detective. And he never, really, gave the card back, XD

Spoiler: Turnabout Mafia: Episode 6
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