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ike liberty heavenly trialsTopic%20Title
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i think i sh** my pants

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since i have been tlking about this for a while
turnabout force
call the police! start:
aneeda laywer?page: 1
teh payne!page: 2
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Last edited by ike liberty on Thu Oct 23, 2008 7:43 pm, edited 13 times in total.
Re: ike liberty heveanly trialsTopic%20Title
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To get rid of that stuff, use this:

(url=URL HERE)This is what will appear as the link.(/url)


Anyway, your comic.... I don't mean to be so blunt, but it needs some work... First, punctuation and capitalization are your friends. They make text much easier to read. Also, the text is too small in page 2 (part of the text was lost when it was shrunk, so it's hard to read). Finally, this would be a lot better if you added a bit more dialogue...AA is really just all dialogue; the more information and characterization, the better. I mean, you didn't even tell us the defendant's name....
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(facepalm) i actually meant to keep explaining it next page and the text.....gimp f***ed up on me...
yeah i know it needs work....
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ike liberty wrote:
(facepalm) i actually meant to keep explaining it next page and the text.....gimp f***ed up on me...
yeah i know it needs work....


The sprites and layout of everything is all really good. If you could just make sure the text doesn't lose quality like it did on page 2, expand the dialogue, and use capitalization and punctuation this would be really good!
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yeah im restarting text right now so it will be better in a while :hobohodo:
(hopefully)
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It could be a little faster, couldn't it?
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I'd say

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Comic seems kinda well "simple" is the best way i could put it.
Still, curious how it'l turn out.
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Bwaaah!

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I'm... interested. I'll be watching for updates.

On a related matter, do you want a spelling/punctuation checker? I could help you with that.

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To get rid of that stuff, use this:

(url=URL HERE)This is what will appear as the link.(/url)


I think you mean, [url=URL HERE]This is what will appear as the link.[/url] Square brackets are important.
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you can be a puncuation/spelling checker thank you so much :gant:
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.....cant get the link thingie work...
sorry duo post
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I'd say

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here, paste this
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[url=http://i530.photobucket.com/albums/dd341/ikeliberty/comic/START-Copy2-Copy.png]INSERTPAGENAMEHERE[/url]
[url=http://i530.photobucket.com/albums/dd341/ikeliberty/comic/1-1.png]INSERTPAGENAMEHERE[/url]
[url=http://i530.photobucket.com/albums/dd341/ikeliberty/comic/2-Copy-Copy.png]INSERTPAGENAMEHERE[/url]
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oh ok i fixed it thanks and i changed page 1
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Looks like Ike gave up on his hate for the Bailiff...
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dont worry it will come back :godot:
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You spelled 'heavenly' wrong.
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Greeny wrote:
You spelled 'heavenly' wrong.


NOT ANYMORE :javado:
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Greeny wrote:
You spelled 'heavenly' wrong.

um.......heh i knew that :nick-sweat: (F***)
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I would suggest another read through, the whole thing is filled with spelling errors and lack of punctuation.
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:headbang:i know!!!
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B.M. wrote:
I'm... interested. I'll be watching for updates.

On a related matter, do you want a spelling/punctuation checker? I could help you with that.

Quote:
To get rid of that stuff, use this:

(url=URL HERE)This is what will appear as the link.(/url)


I think you mean, [url=URL HERE]This is what will appear as the link.[/url] Square brackets are important.


I could've sworn I typed in a "Just replace the ( and ) with [ and ]" :nick-sweat:
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ike liberty wrote:
you can be a puncuation/spelling checker thank you so much :gant:

Sorry for not responding in a while.
Okay my PM box has space, so any time, just send it in.

I'll go over the first three comics and send any revisions to you by PM as well.
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I'm sorry, but I cringed several times during this comic.
First of all, the first panel is nohing but a background behind existing images, with a slight alteration to Phoenix. I can't really blame you for this, but it's still kind of irritating.
Secondly, the grammar and punctuation are horrible. I instead of i for example. Use capital letters at the beginning of a sentance and on appropriate words such as names or titles.
For example
Comic 2:
???: Ahh...Mr. Liberty?
Ike: Oh, hello Ms. Aneeda. Say, could you fill me in on the case? I'm a little clueless. (Ugh, I look like an idiot, I don't even know what happened!)
Aneeda: But you're my Attorney, shouldn't you know this already?
Ike: Well yes...um...
Bailiff: Will the Defense attorney and his client please enter the courtroom? The trial is about to begin.
Ike: (I don't know whether to laugh or cry)
Ike: (My name's Ike Liberty. I'm a new Attorney, if that hasn't been made clear already. Even since -that- time, becoming one has been my ambition)

Spoiler: scratch this, I was scrolled down and didn't see the first two panels
I left out the text from the last panel, for the reason that you haven't introduced her yet. Shouldn't she have been with Ike and been involved in the conversation? Unless you've seen her once already, it feels misplaced. You should have saved her introduction until you actually see her in the comic.

What kind of introduction to the comic is "Ah yes, the shopping was very fun"? It has nothing to do with the case, and that's what the characters should be discussing. It would have been a lot better, had you not had the second panel.

I have another problem with Trucy Wright incidentally. I ask you, why? Why are you using her? It really annoys me when a major plot element involves the romance between a fancharacter and a canon character. It can be alright if it's done correctly (Ami's comic for example), but here it just seems tacked on and is annoying. Also, why would Trucy be assisting Ike? Why isn't she with Apollo? Is there some reason for this change?

The script is poorly written too (although in a different way this time). Payne is talking extremely out of character for one thing. Where's his snidy bragging? His smug dialouge? He also seems to be rushing his speech.
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Here is a map of the murder scene. now the killer could not leave on either side because their was a construction site on both sides so she ran forwards and the witness saw her and in fact the witness is here

...what? That isn't written very well at all.
Here's what it should say (without improving the structure).
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I have here a map of the area the victim was murdered in. There was construction work going on on both sides, so she was unable to flee the scene via those paths. Instead she left the body sitting there and went south, where the witness saw her run off.
I have the witness here to testify to this effect

Now, as I mentioned, the structure is also off. For one thing, the murder method or weapon hasn't be established yet. Why would Payne be talking about the murderer's escape? Second of all, why are you outlinining that she couldn't leave via those ways? Does it really matter if she could have gone another way? It seems more of something you'd base a contradiction on, not something the Prosecution uses to prove the Defendant's guilt.

Don't give up though. Improve your grammar skills and structure your story a bit better. If you do that, this could still become a good comic =)

Last edited by Ice the frosty cat on Sun Oct 26, 2008 4:34 pm, edited 1 time in total.
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Yeah, I would agree with Ice.
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Affection!

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Well I'll be blunt with you.
I don't quite like it thusfar, I'm sure it could be a good comic if only you chose a more convenient comic size, instead of doing | try doing - ... seriously.
Anyway, the last page is kind of a bad quality, and for a comic you're going awfully fast through certain procedures, although that's my opnion and mine only.

Keep it up though, and don't let a not so old yet fool get you down! :o
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yeah i know it isint that good im thinking of scrapping the 2nd page for a second out of court one
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So you'll be remaking it? You must do in order for it to work.
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:nick-sweat: or maybe not......
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I was wondering, have you written a script already, or are you writing it as you make the comics?
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um.....i have the basic script stuck in my mind...and i will add more stuff later
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I'm afraid that's simply not good enough. You need to write a complete script down and fine tune it to your best ability before even starting the comic.

Last edited by Ice the frosty cat on Sun Oct 26, 2008 5:29 pm, edited 1 time in total.
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oh......f***
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Well, I think he means all the finer details. You need to know how exactly
your case will work out. I personally don't think you really need any solid
dialogue written down too... Though in your case it might help.
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