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TheDoctor wrote:
Don't get me wrong, I prefer Hayter too, I'm just saying that considering how Sutherland was supposedly an "upgrade," there was so little dialogue that it really wasn't worth the change.
That said, if they release a Hayter voice pack that redubs all of Snake's lines with Hayter's voice, I'm totally buying it.
That said, if they release a Hayter voice pack that redubs all of Snake's lines with Hayter's voice, I'm totally buying it.
I would Kickstart a Mod for the PC version that did that.
Part of me thinks they are trying to hide the "not-snake" quality of Kiefer's voice.
That or big budget actors like him cost a lot more money so they didn't use much dialogue.
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TheDoctor wrote:
Keep in mind, Big Boss wasn't voiced by Hayter in MGS4 either. So, the change isn't entirely unprecedented. I just think they should have at least talked to Hayter about it and let him know they wanted to go in a different direction for this installment. It's the least they could have done for the man who basically made the series as popular as it is in the west.
Sure but if they had voiced him with Hayter in MGS4 he would have been talking to himself.
Plus Big Boss' body had been through some pretty crappy stuff. It's understandable if his vocal chords messed up. Even then I'd have accepted it provided they used Richard Doyle from MGS4 as the voice actor.
As it feels it's like a cheesy Celebrity endorsement.
Additionally Peace Walker was after MGS4 and they did use Hayter there.
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So the credits are rolling...I mean proper credits, the big fancy theme has been sung. A giant mech lies pretty wrecked due to my efforts. Man what a disappointment. I can only hope the true story lies in the postgame because...well it's like anything in dramatic storytelling has just been chucked out the window.
The game's big musical number...played amazingly well in MGS4...played at a super dramatic moment in MGS3...is played here in a silent, kind of awkward, Jeep ride through Afghanistan. Not even with dynamic camera shots of the scenery, just simple music with nothing to really invoke any excitement or drama.
People will say "Oh yeah but the Gameplay is great," and it is.
But that's not what I buy Metal Gear for.
Here's hoping post-game is a massive redeeming factor for the plot.
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TheDoctor wrote:
Metal Gear Solid 4 had a big musical number?
Love Theme is what I'm referring to there.
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TheDoctor wrote:
Huh. Guess it didn't really impact me like Heavens Divide.
True the song isn't as memorable but it's not about the quality of the song.
It's how it was used that's what counts. Musical Direction! Pushing through that corridor with this slightly-depressing song while you see your friends fighting and losing as you become more broken and wounded had a great effect!
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Advertising-wise, I think the worst thing is that the game was advertised as Big Boss's decent into villainy, but to be honest, I didn't see any of that in the actual story, and in gameplay, it's mostly left up to player choice, and I just have a hard time taking that route when the heroic route is so much more rewarding.
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TheDoctor wrote:
Yeah, they should have had Sins of the Father play over a big intro, like in Snake Eater. That would have been cool.
Advertising-wise, I think the worst thing is that the game was advertised as Big Boss's decent into villainy, but to be honest, I didn't see any of that in the actual story, and in gameplay, it's mostly left up to player choice, and I just have a hard time taking that route when the heroic route is so much more rewarding.
Advertising-wise, I think the worst thing is that the game was advertised as Big Boss's decent into villainy, but to be honest, I didn't see any of that in the actual story, and in gameplay, it's mostly left up to player choice, and I just have a hard time taking that route when the heroic route is so much more rewarding.
If anything it seems more like Millers descent into madness. Like I know at some point Miller and BB had a falling out.
Its not hard to believe that it was Miller doing all the villainous stuff and BB ditching him for his crazy ambitions. Then again the speech at the end of Peace Walker made BB seem villainous enough.
Still apparently there's a whole chapter 2 to go through so maybe I'll see more there.
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The game's big musical number...played amazingly well in MGS4...played at a super dramatic moment in MGS3...is played here in a silent, kind of awkward, Jeep ride through Afghanistan. Not even with dynamic camera shots of the scenery, just simple music with nothing to really invoke any excitement or drama.
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I mean c'mon I know you are desperately trying to hide the Not!Snake voice but Snake traditionally talks to villains about their plans!
Also I signed in today, when the servers were down for maintenance. Somehow Motherbase ended up like 500k in the red because I was offline? I mean I get that FOB resources can't be used but...how can I have MORE than my current money in FOBs?
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TheDoctor wrote:
It's really stupid. Especially when it kills the gmp you had prior to the update. It almost feels like a form of DRM.
I could understand temporarily losing some GMP till the servers are back but this took ALL my GMP AND THEN SOME. I just don't get how it happened.
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That's pretty disappointing.
People were right, MGS4 was the perfect ending to the series.
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Pierre wrote:
Right beat the game. Credits rolling, listening to post-game cassette tapes.
That's pretty disappointing.
People were right, MGS4 was the perfect ending to the series.
That's pretty disappointing.
People were right, MGS4 was the perfect ending to the series.
Your wishful thinking just had to be correct, didn't it?
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sumguy28 wrote:
Pierre wrote:
Right beat the game. Credits rolling, listening to post-game cassette tapes.
That's pretty disappointing.
People were right, MGS4 was the perfect ending to the series.
That's pretty disappointing.
People were right, MGS4 was the perfect ending to the series.
Your wishful thinking just had to be correct, didn't it?
Spoiler:
That's a very subtle clue. I don't mean to sound like Cat but they were really obvious about it. Here's why:
Spoiler: Huge MGSV Endgame spoilers
But the twist being a bit predictable isn't the problem. I'm a little scunnered that they blatantly cheated in the initial opening to hide it (by changing things in Truth, that happened in the opening mission. I expect new things to be revealed to give away plot twists rather than changing things. Playing the entire opening mission was a bit of a buzzkill too considering they force you to do all the tutorial stuff again.
The real problem is how incomplete the game is.
Spoiler: MGSV Endgame Spoilers
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Marche Tobaye wrote:
What are your opinions on the VR Theory? Personally I think it makes a lot of sense considering Kojimmy did not want to continue the franchise after MGS2.
Huh whatever that is my phones adult filter isn't letting me see it. Mind breaking it down for me?
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I'm personally in the camp that says if MGS2 was meant to be VR, then MGS4 serves as the extension to that. Games prior to that in the timeline could be either/or.
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Marche Tobaye wrote:
What are your opinions on the VR Theory? Personally I think it makes a lot of sense considering Kojimmy did not want to continue the franchise after MGS2.
I'd be fine with this theory were it not for the guy implying that his theory is infallible and everyone who doesn't see it can't understand the brilliance.
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sumguy28 wrote:
Marche Tobaye wrote:
What are your opinions on the VR Theory? Personally I think it makes a lot of sense considering Kojimmy did not want to continue the franchise after MGS2.
I'd be fine with this theory were it not for the guy implying that his theory is infallible and everyone who doesn't see it can't understand the brilliance.
Agreed, he does get a bit passive-aggressive at times. Though it may just be backlash at the reception MGS2 got.
Metal Gear 2 (for MSX2, not the NES one) is a really good game by the way.
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Marche Tobaye wrote:
sumguy28 wrote:
Marche Tobaye wrote:
What are your opinions on the VR Theory? Personally I think it makes a lot of sense considering Kojimmy did not want to continue the franchise after MGS2.
I'd be fine with this theory were it not for the guy implying that his theory is infallible and everyone who doesn't see it can't understand the brilliance.
Agreed, he does get a bit passive-aggressive at times. Though it may just be backlash at the reception MGS2 got.
Metal Gear 2 (for MSX2, not the NES one) is a really good game by the way.
Sure is, I have fond memories of playing through that on the Subsistance edition of MGS3.
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Set after the end of Ground Zeroes, the survivors of MSF find themselves travelling through wormholes to scavenge parts of Mother base and fight...crystalline zombies I think.
I'm happy to hear it.
I was worried the first Metal Gear game after Kojima would be good.
This makes shunning the franchise now so much easier.
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