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I know this is MONTHS old, but I hadn't heard anything on it until I found the link today.
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So you enjoyed The World Ends With You? Too bad. You won't be seeing anything remotely like it from Square-Enix anytime soon, according to company president Yoichi Wada, who recently issued an ultimatum to his staff: if any games are made that don't fit into the mainstream's circle of interest, job cuts will follow. So long, unique concepts that break the mold!

This was supposedly part of a heated business meeting in which Square discussed the results of their 2007 fiscal year, which were none too sunny, showing general profits down 20 percent and taking the worst of it in overseas sales.

Business is business, but I have to say my heart sank when I read those words. If Square was doing anything I was excited to see, it was things outside the Final Fantasy spectrum, but financial troubles like this certainly excise any hope of experimental titles in the future (at least until the numbers improve). I'm glad to see the giant falter a bit, if only in hopes that the results will push them towards a more focused future.


Wh-wh-what?!
As a fan of The World Ends with You, I must say this really grinds my gears. Bad decision or the worst decision?
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What's that? April happens twice in 2008?
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I don't know why this is such a huge surprise to everyone. Square-Enix has been shitting all over originality for years now. I haven't played TWEWY, but it's either some crazy exception to the rule or an overrated piece of crap.
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Not surprising. After witnessing the swarms of overrating crowds, I saw this coming.
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I saw this coming in April of 2008 when it was first announced.
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Bendilin wrote:
I saw this coming in April of 2008 when it was first announced.


*staggers up after fainting*

D-Does that mean it's an April Fools joke?
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Square Enix works business. They shut down that Chrono Trigger remake project, why did you expect anything from them in the first place?

I just have to say, though, that even if it's business, making crap games that no-one really wants to buy won't exactly IMPROVE their economy, mmmh?
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Square Enix works business. They shut down that Chrono Trigger remake project, why did you expect anything from them in the first place?

I just have to say, though, that even if it's business, making crap games that no-one really wants to buy won't exactly IMPROVE their economy, mmmh?


Or making another Online Final Fantasy game (Which I heard are... somewhat horrible...)
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Mikker wrote:
Square Enix works business. They shut down that Chrono Trigger remake project, why did you expect anything from them in the first place?

I just have to say, though, that even if it's business, making crap games that no-one really wants to buy won't exactly IMPROVE their economy, mmmh?


If they continue making Final Fantasies by the truck-load (since they have more time) I'm sure there will be enough fanboys to eat them up.
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FoolMeNever wrote:
Bendilin wrote:
I saw this coming in April of 2008 when it was first announced.


*staggers up after fainting*

D-Does that mean it's an April Fools joke?

On this website it was out in May so...

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I haven't played TWEWY, but it's either some crazy exception to the rule or an overrated piece of crap.

I liked it, the battle system was really fun and it had plenty of short mini games to change the pace up.
TWEWY is the main reason this gets me mad.
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Neh rather its a April fools joke or not I kinda don't care. TWEWY although yes very original, on many aspects, it just wasn't enough for me. It had something going but didn't deliver it. Also I found TWEWY to be a overrated. Not everyone but MANY new players to rpgs got this and were amazed by it in every way. There are so many better rpgs out there, a lot of which square never even made.

TWEWY could have been a great game in my eyes, but the overkill fans killed it for me. Going crazy and nuts for this game killed my appreciation for it. Like Final Fantasy VII, at its time it was a good game. Then when Kingdom hearts came out, and people saw Sephiroth for the first time they got all giddy and acted like a fan of FFVII. And because of it making the movie and the pointless sequels. Basically Killing any respect for Final Fantasy VII I once had, thanks to the crazed fans!
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Personally, if this means that Nintendo goes the same route and releases a Mother 1/2/3 compliation cart, I'm all for it. :godot:

*proceeds to get beaten to death by everyone else in this thread*
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Personally, if this means that Nintendo goes the same route and releases a Mother 1/2/3 compliation cart, I'm all for it. :godot:

*proceeds to get beaten to death by everyone else in this thread*

That...doesn't even make sense. Mother 1 and 3 weren't released BECAUSE they weren't "mainstream" enough.

And, uh, if Square Enix isn't allowed to make any "unique" games, why are they working on Sigma Harmonics?
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Mother 3 wasn't released because A) NOA despises the Mother series with a passion, but more importantly B) Mother 3 contains a lot of inappropriate content which can not be altered/censored due to how important they are to the story. The game would definitely receive an M rating.
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Huh. Are you kidding me? This better be a joke. I hold Square Enix in high regard. This would be just low. Very low.

As for the stuff about Mother 3: Dang. I want that game so bad. Don't care if I have to fork an ID over to get it, I want it.
I didn't know it was that bad, though.
NOA probably hates the Mother fans more, though. They dedicate whole WEEKS to calling Nintendo to request the game. And some people call 30 times a day.
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Well, if this proves to be correct, I have yet another reason to stick with retro RPGs. *pets SNES*
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Hmm... I'm split. As a gamer, I like new stuff, but as a Kingdom Hearts fan, this may put a big push of speed onto the KH titles in development, and I like that idea. So it's kinda bittersweet.
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tenshi_no_kioku wrote:
NOA probably hates the Mother fans more, though. They dedicate whole WEEKS to calling Nintendo to request the game. And some people call 30 times a day.


And yet Reggie claims there isn't a market for the Mother series in North America.
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NNNNOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!
What about Final fantasy I,II,VII,VIII,IX,X,XI for ds/wii?
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Final Fantasy is mainstream.

There is also Final Fantasy I and II for GBA, which you can play on a DS or DS Lite.
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Final Fantasy is mainstream.

There is also Final Fantasy I and II for GBA, which you can play on a DS or DS Lite.


But I want 3D Graphiiiiiics!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :larry:
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Hahex wrote:
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Final Fantasy is mainstream.

There is also Final Fantasy I and II for GBA, which you can play on a DS or DS Lite.


But I want 3D Graphiiiiiics!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :larry:

You know they won't even go past IX, if they even get THAT far in the remakes. (I doubt they'll even go past VI.)
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Bad Player wrote:
Final Fantasy is mainstream.

There is also Final Fantasy I and II for GBA, which you can play on a DS or DS Lite.


But I want 3D Graphiiiiiics!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :larry:

You know they won't even go past IX, if they even get THAT far in the remakes. (I doubt they'll even go past VI.)

Yeah... There gets a point where the new FFs won't fit onto a DS cartridge :sadshoe:

Although I would like to see a DS remake of FFVII, considering all the hype. (I wanna play it!)
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That was obvious. Sounds like Blizzard to me: "Hey, let's make Diablo 3 or a new Starcraft to satisfy our old fans...." "Screw you! We have our money making machine WoW! Moar expansions! Moar bullcrap that nobody needs! Even moar moar!"

It's basically the same: Company has game that works, abandons other projects.

All I want is FFV for DS, even if they already had it for GBA. But I'll never get it. Good thing I still have my good old consoles *pets SNES, N64 and GC* and my old-school emus.

Stupid money-making-greed.

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That was obvious. Sounds like Blizzard to me: "Hey, let's make Diablo 3 or a new Starcraft to satisfy our old fans...." "Screw you! We have our money making machine WoW! Moar expansions! Moar bullcrap that nobody needs! Even moar moar!"

It's basically the same: Company has game that works, abandons other projects.

All I want is FFV for DS, even if they already had it for GBA. But I'll never get it. Good thing I still have my good old consoles *pets SNES, N64 and GC* and my old-school emus.

Stupid money-making-greed.

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Where the heck are you? In reality, where I am, Blizzard has announced both Diablo 3 and Starcraft 2. And then there's the whole thing where all Square does these days is remake old games, so I'd say you have a pretty good chance of seeing FF5 DS.
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Well, they may have announced them, but Duke Nukem Forever was announced too.

I'm still sceptical that they won't bring both games out in at least the next two years.
I'm a bit slow on things, but what do we have so far on both games? Teaser trailers? Or maybe some more?

And just because you asked, I'm living in the middle of nowhere in Bavaria, Germany, I don't read any games magazines and I very rarely check up on news. I am a very sceptical person and very often fail to believe if there is no solid proof that there is actual work being done.

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Is Blizzard making Duke Nukem Forever? No? Didn't think so.

And what's wrong with taking two years to make a game? Would you rather being playing something like Shadow The Hedgehog, which took a year to develop?
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Nothing really, but when I look at what a incredibly good team of developers Blizzard has, and how much time they actually had (subtracting how long they took to actually START it), I feel that at least Starcraft II should be nearing release by now. I'm not saying there's anything wrong about waiting 3 years for a game. I'm saying that waiting 11 years for a sequel isn't too nice.

The Duke Nukem analogy was just to show that developers sometimes take too much time - who says that Blizzard doesn't throw it all away and stays with their moneymachine?

I actually admire the fact that the two games in question even got announced, since I was thinking I'd be waiting till 2020 or so.

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Are you basically saying that we can't trust any developers out there because of Duke Nukem Forever

what the hell.

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P.S. I'm losing ground here, I'm outnumbered and I've probably already lost this debate, but I'll still keep it going.


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Are you basically saying that we can't trust any developers out there because of Duke Nukem Forever

what the hell.

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P.S. I'm losing ground here, I'm outnumbered and I've probably already lost this debate, but I'll still keep it going.


That's called being retarded and immature.


I think it's more of a his original statement was the exact opposite of reality so he's going to come up with half assed ways to defend it type of thing. Because admitting you have no way of knowing what's going on in the games industry and then not admitting you're wrong about what's going on in the games industry makes perfect sense.
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ok...well more then likely we will just have to get the originality from somewhere else. If the employees can't stand unoriginal content then they will leave and hopefully one day find sponsored money to start their own company. (if it would happen...)

And I don't see how attacking people is going to change anything. Blizzard is a good (wow is my lover) company and all we can do is wait for the games and just hope it was worth the wait. If not you can wallow in your tears and enjoy a remake of an overproduced final fantasy game.
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That's called being retarded and immature.


Why thank you very much. Seeing as how this debate would just evolve into something ugly, I admit I have no idea whatsoever about the gaming industry and therefore am not entitled to voice my opinion. I'm out of here.

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Great. Now I here that they're making FFXIII on the PS3, Xbox 360 BUT NOT THE WII!!!!!!!!!
If they go out of business, they deserve it for making such a stupid decision. (But not after they give FFV, FFI, FFVI, FFI and FFII remake IN 3d!!!!)
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Great. Now I here that they're making FFXIII on the PS3, Xbox 360 BUT NOT THE WII!!!!!!!!!
If they go out of business, they deserve it for making such a stupid decision. (But not after they give FFV, FFI, FFVI, FFI and FFII remake IN 3d!!!!)


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Hahex wrote:
Great. Now I here that they're making FFXIII on the PS3, Xbox 360 BUT NOT THE WII!!!!!!!!!
If they go out of business, they deserve it for making such a stupid decision. (But not after they give FFV, FFI, FFVI, FFI and FFII remake IN 3d!!!!)



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I hope Bioware goes out of business for not putting Mass Effect on the Wii.
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