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Spoiler: Ch2 plot hole
Spoiler: Ch5 plot hole
I imagine the plot hole in ch2 was just some sort of miscommunication or oversight with the art team, but the ch5 one makes no sense.
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Ishimaru Kiyotaka wrote:
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Ch5 has a plot hole even bigger and worse than the one in Ch2. So yeah... don't expect too much.
I also came up with a totally legit alternate solution for ch5 that they never acknowledge, boo
What is the plot hole that your talking about in Ch 5? Also Im wondering if Cat will fall for the trick once she starts playing Ch5 towards the end.
I did read something about a "trap" in that Chapter. Also there's an entry for Danganronpa on TVTropes' "Fission Mailed" page. I didn't read it, I only saw it listed like this in the page. "In Danganronpa, (rest is a very long block of text hidden by spoiler tags)" so I have no idea what it is, I didn't look at it, I instantly left. But since I kinda know what the Fission Mailed trope is... *shrug* I'm guessing it's like the "trap" in Case 1-5 of AA.
Also, the only plot hole in Chapter 2 I can think of is probably...
Spoiler: Ch 2
And I have a question about the pool area! Okay, so the dressing rooms have two doors, one is the entry and the other leads to the pool. The entry ones can only be entered by using your ID to open the one that corresponds to your gender. What about the ones leading to the pool? Do they, too, have that mechanic on the pool side or can you just enter them willy-nilly?
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CatMuto wrote:
Spoiler: Ch 2
Spoiler: Ch2
The hole in ch5 is a bit more subtle; it seems like it's just going to be part of the mystery and will get explained, but then everything ends, and... it was never resolved.
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Bad Player wrote:
CatMuto wrote:
Spoiler: Ch 2
Spoiler: Ch2
The hole in ch5 is a bit more subtle; it seems like it's just going to be part of the mystery and will get explained, but then everything ends, and... it was never resolved.
Spoiler: Ch 2
CatMuto wrote:
And I have a question about the pool area! Okay, so the dressing rooms have two doors, one is the entry and the other leads to the pool. The entry ones can only be entered by using your ID to open the one that corresponds to your gender. What about the ones leading to the pool? Do they, too, have that mechanic on the pool side or can you just enter them willy-nilly?
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It's never really stated but let's say for argument's sake they do have the lock since...it'd be stupid if they didn't, and it doesn't really cause any plotholes if they do.
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Spoiler: Ch 2
Spoiler: Ch2
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Spoiler: Ch 5 Investigation
Spoiler: Also, Ch 5 Investigation
All I have to say is, some of that investigation music is getting REALLY bothersome to my ears, even with the audio turned down.
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Spoiler: My Problem With The Ending/Final Class Trial
Those were my main thoughts while playing through that part. By God, it was annoying as fuck to listen to that over and over...
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Just finished the game... the game was entertaining. I might replay it eventually on a higher difficulty, to experience the game mechanics that were removed due to having played on Merciful (or Gentle... whichever it was called) but other than that, it was okay. However...
Those were my main thoughts while playing through that part. By God, it was annoying as fuck to listen to that over and over...
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Spoiler: My Problem With The Ending/Final Class Trial
Those were my main thoughts while playing through that part. By God, it was annoying as fuck to listen to that over and over...
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Just wait for the final trial in SDR2
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Just wait for the final trial in SDR2
That's Vita only, right? Cause if it is, the only way I'll play it is if there's a functioning Vita Emulator. I don't have the cash, nor do I want to buy a Vita since the overall library doesn't have enough for me to warrant a buy. Also, the only thing I'm hoping for that game is that the story basis is different. (Kill someone to get off the island, but nobody wants to go off the island and stuff)
By the way, regarding that Chapter 5 plot hole...
Spoiler: Ch 5 plot hole?
And something else that made no sense to me as I played the last part of the game.
Spoiler: Giant Chapter 6 Spoilers
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CatMuto wrote:
That's Vita only, right? Cause if it is, the only way I'll play it is if there's a functioning Vita Emulator. I don't have the cash, nor do I want to buy a Vita since the overall library doesn't have enough for me to warrant a buy. Also, the only thing I'm hoping for that game is that the story basis is different. (Kill someone to get off the island, but nobody wants to go off the island and stuff)
Super Danganronpa 2 is available on PSP. Don't know about translation patches though.
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Ash wrote:
As for pure linguistic difficulty, I don't think it's very different from Ace Attorney in Japanese. A lot more pop-culture references though. How's your hearing? At least all the trial parts are voiced, so that should make it a bit more easier to understand.
My hearing-understanding of Japanese is much better than pure reading. I remember having some difficulty with AA in Japanese, but as you say, fully voiced trials would be easier for me. I think I'll try playing SDR in Japanese. See how that goes.
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As for linguistics, for the most part, I agree with Ash; there are jokes/nuances that can certainly go over your head, but just in terms of understanding what's going on, it isn't much worse than AA.
However, contrary to AA, the minigames are timed. As a result, reading fast enough to do it all might be a bit tough. However, with difficult levels and the ability to just safe and redo stuff, it should be more of an annoyance than a real problem, at worst.
...The exception to this is the anagram things. It's very easy to know the answer to the problem, but not the word for it in Japanese (or the word the game wants). But all you gotta do for that is look it up, so... yeah, not bad.
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CatMuto wrote:
Spoiler: Giant Chapter 6 Spoilers
Spoiler:
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Spoiler: Ch 5/6
So putting together the last video... it's over 3 Hours long...
I knew that last Class Trial part took fucking forever! Argh, hope and despair, hope and despair, shut up! Anyway... *sigh* you know, the entire idea is kinda neat, but the way it's executed at the end and how things are revealed... I dunno, it just felt so incomplete to me and kinda... non. Okay, they probably had the idea for sequels as they made the game, but I dunno...Speaking of sequels, after I get back from the interview, I'll play SDR2. I read that there is an English Patch for it out there, but I only found it on a page where you have to complete a survey in order to be allowed to download the patch file, so... not doing it.
And something else I noticed. I think danganronpa's artwork gallery is a bit messed up.
Spoiler: Here's why (Endgame Spoilers)
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Spoiler: Ch 5 plot hole?
Spoiler: Ch5/6
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CatMuto wrote:
Franzise Deauxnim wrote:
Spoiler:
Spoiler: Ch 5/6
Spoiler:
The ending really wasn't executed well at all, I don't know why people even try to argue otherwise. Even taking sequels into account, there's been plenty of games that were left open for a continuation without leaving gaping holes in the story.
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Bad Player wrote:
oops forgot to respond to this
CatMuto wrote:
Spoiler: Ch 5 plot hole?
Spoiler: Ch5/6
Spoiler: Ch 5/6
Well like I said, the idea behind the revelations in the ending are pretty cool, but I think they were kind of poorly executed...
Spoiler: Endgame Spoilers
As for SDR2, I just started it and omg, Usami's voice BUGS me!
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It's definitely a typical japanese storytelling flaw to overexplain at some point the theme and the symbolism of the story and just rub it on your face over and over as if you were mentally challenged. Bonus annoyance when the related theme is as simplistic and vague as it is in danganronpa
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Spoiler: Super Danganronpa 2 + Danganronpa Endgame SPOILERS!
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On another note, I actually came here to post this pic I found making fun of the game's title.
Well? Are we going or what?
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On another note, I actually came here to post this pic I found making fun of the game's title.
Hehe, cute. But I think I liked the "spoiler title screen" as I called it a bit better. I posted it, I think in the random conversation topic. By the way, here's a link to a page that shows screenshots and talks about the earliest version of Danganronpa, back then called Distrust. None of the images really spoil anything, as most of this stuff was completely changed during production.
I have to say, I would've loved had Danganronpa been a bit more to how Distrust initially started. You know, with the branching paths that could change which character may die or how the protagonist reacts to things. It would've added a ton more replay value to the game... compared to DR, where the only replay value I see is for two purposes: filling the students' report cards and gaining the skills/skill points... and getting enough Monokuma Coins to "buy" all the gallery things.
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I have a question in regards to Super Danganronpa 2, which is pretty much a plot hole for me. Kinda heavy spoiler, so careful. Unless someone knows the answer or explanation for this thing.
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Spoiler: Super Danganronpa 2 + Danganronpa Endgame SPOILERS!
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(The plot of Dangan Ronpa is not meant to be a coherent story, but rather a vehicle to create the "killing game" scenario of the main game, with vague, unexplained events and concepts used to patch the plot holes, instead of having a solid foundation to prevent weird holes from popping up. In short, don't waste your time thinking about it.)
Also, have you finished SDR2 already?
that was fast
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Also, have you finished SDR2 already? that was fast
that was fastTo be quite honest, I was on the DR Wiki and saw an entry for this one guy in SDR2. My initial reaction was to wonder why exactly this guy looked like Naegi if he became a time traveller and became a bit transparent-looking after hoping through the fourth dimension a few too many times. So I clicked on his entry and got spoiled about something as soon as his title was revealed. Then I decided to just not care and look at his in-game pictures. I'm still at the beginning of SDR2, but I don't really care much about the spoilers this time around... I don't know details, but all I care about is...
Spoiler: SDR2 Ending Spoilers
And this gelbooru image still makes me laugh every time I see it (SFW)
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Also:
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In short, don't waste your time thinking about it.
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Bad Player wrote:
Welcome to the club, pardner
Also:
Also:
Bad Player wrote:
In short, don't waste your time thinking about it.
Somehow I doubt it's in Cat's nature to just hand-wave something like that.
Well? Are we going or what?
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Bad Player wrote:
Welcome to the club, pardner
Also:
Also:
Bad Player wrote:
In short, don't waste your time thinking about it.
I try. I mean, I don't think DR in its entirety is a bad game just because A) the mysteries are incredibly predictable for a murder mystery game and B) the game's end part drags on and the Ending feels so... non that it seems pointless. It's still an entertaining game........ as long as the player doesn't go in, expecting to have to mash their brains to figure something out.
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Spoiler: Danganronpa:Another episode/DR3
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Ishimaru Kiyotaka wrote:
Here is another PV of Danganronpa:Another episode and also the announcement of..DANGANRONPA 3!
Spoiler: Danganronpa:Another episode/DR3
ANOTHER episode? Hey, unless that's a Danganronpa Version of the manga/light novel Another, I won't have it. *checks link* So it's DR Chibis... and isn't that DR3 thing basically the spin-off where we control Naegi's sister? And it looks like DR went Resident Evil style.
Also, I have to say something about the DR Anime.
Spoiler: Chapter 1 Spoilers
Then again, the anime seems a bit rushed... I mean, several scenes look copy-pasted from the game. Were they trying to make the game an anime or turn the anime into a game...? It seems bad to do that, considering an Anime is not the Game. They can have the censorship pink blood as a style choice if they want to, but just copying the execution scenes, the... you know that ring-bell thingy and such... just seems really lazy. Anime =/= Game, you can't just take things from the game and add them into the anime and it'll be great.
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CatMuto wrote:
Ishimaru Kiyotaka wrote:
Here is another PV of Danganronpa:Another episode and also the announcement of..DANGANRONPA 3!
Spoiler: Danganronpa:Another episode/DR3
ANOTHER episode? Hey, unless that's a Danganronpa Version of the manga/light novel Another, I won't have it. *checks link* So it's DR Chibis... and isn't that DR3 thing basically the spin-off where we control Naegi's sister? And it looks like DR went Resident Evil style.
No, Danganronpa:Another Episode is a spin-off from the series that has you playing Naegi's sister. Danganronpa 3 was announced at the end of the trailer it says
Spoiler: Trailer
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Then again, the anime seems a bit rushed... I mean, several scenes look copy-pasted from the game. Were they trying to make the game an anime or turn the anime into a game...? It seems bad to do that, considering an Anime is not the Game. They can have the censorship pink blood as a style choice if they want to, but just copying the execution scenes, the... you know that ring-bell thingy and such... just seems really lazy. Anime =/= Game, you can't just take things from the game and add them into the anime and it'll be great.
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PS: DRAT is much funnier...
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PS: DRAT is much funnier...
While I'm, again, no expert, it wouldn't surprise me if it was 'super-duper hugh school rushed'. Pardon the expression.
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Spoiler: That thing that I predicted and was revealed in Chapter 2
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AlonsoSwift wrote:
Gee, Ishimaru, your new sig looks vaguely familiar...
Hmm very weird *shifty eyes* xD
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By the way, is there a set number of coins I get for each class trial or do I get more the more points I make altogether?
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Too bad you aren't playing on Vita, School Mode is way better than the actual game.
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