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Author: | Lone [ Sat May 13, 2017 6:15 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Dangan-Ronpa |
I was more referring to style over difficulty ie- this is how things are structured, do you like it? Afterall, Spike Chunsoft only allows people to post videos of chapter one, for a reason. Speaking firsthand, it was quite the experience watching DR1 for the first time and I was disappointed the let's play just stopped at ch.1. I ended up buying it for myself and don't regret doing so. Just seeing the style of the first chapter was enough to hook me in. Then again, I see plenty of English videos beyond chapter 1, maybe it's just in Japan, idk. I do agree that with DR1, maybe play a bit of the second chapter too. Even if it's just for the aforementioned difficulty. |
Author: | CatMuto [ Sat May 13, 2017 8:13 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Dangan-Ronpa |
TheDoctor wrote: I wasn't complaining, I was just saying the first case isn't usually indicative of a series' difficulty, generally due to ridiculously obvious clues or the case outright showing you who the killer is. 4-1 is one of the few cases that actually managed to be a challenging case in its own right as far as tutorials go. 4-1? ...oh, yes. That one. It wasn't bad. It was obvious with the bracelet-clue, but... yeah, that is something where they were explaining "Here, this is a mechanic that will come up in the other cases". C-A |
Author: | Bad Player [ Thu May 25, 2017 3:09 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Dangan-Ronpa |
I can't believe you didn't post this here, JM... ...And speaking of posting DR reviews here late |
Author: | TheDoctor [ Fri May 26, 2017 4:26 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Dangan-Ronpa |
So, as someone who generally liked the Danganronpa games, but hated the ending of the first one, thought the second was marginally better, and relegates the entire DR3 anime to the realm of discontinuity because of it's ending, would you say this ending is liable to piss me off, or would it be more "meh?" |
Author: | Bad Player [ Fri May 26, 2017 4:24 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Dangan-Ronpa |
No idea |
Author: | JesusMonroe [ Fri May 26, 2017 7:29 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Dangan-Ronpa |
@BadPlayer because I already posted my thoughts of the game ~2 years ago :p Are the trials in V3 padded with a bunch of "hey maybe A is the killer...oh wait he's not, then maybe B is the killer, oh wait she's not..." that don't actually reveal any information about the mystery besides eliminating suspects? Which isn't actually helpful because if the characters started with suspecting the killer, they'd catch the killer without having to eliminate the other people as possibilities? |
Author: | Bad Player [ Fri May 26, 2017 7:57 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Dangan-Ronpa |
JesusMonroe wrote: @BadPlayer because I already posted my thoughts of the game ~2 years ago :p Are the trials in V3 padded with a bunch of "hey maybe A is the killer...oh wait he's not, then maybe B is the killer, oh wait she's not..." that don't actually reveal any information about the mystery besides eliminating suspects? Which isn't actually helpful because if the characters started with suspecting the killer, they'd catch the killer without having to eliminate the other people as possibilities? no, in NDRv3 it tends more to be "okay well we can definitely eliminate [the killer] as a suspect because [insert faulty reasoning here]" [several hours later] "omg we overlooked this possibility that means [the killer] could have actually done it!" |
Author: | MBr [ Tue Jun 27, 2017 5:36 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Dangan-Ronpa |
Finished reading Danganronpa Zero again Spoiler: |
Author: | Southern Corn [ Tue Jun 27, 2017 5:40 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Dangan-Ronpa |
After my role in the RP I'm a bit more interested in this series. A few questions though What's the playing order of the games? How does this game compare to AA? How are its mysteries, gameplay and characters? Is there any similarity to Zero Escape as well? Thanks in advance for the help. |
Author: | Bad Player [ Tue Jun 27, 2017 5:47 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Dangan-Ronpa |
Southern Corn wrote: What's the playing order of the games? Release order Quote: How does this game compare to AA? How are its mysteries, gameplay and characters? Worse on basically every front, but many people will disagree with me Quote: Is there any similarity to Zero Escape as well? No, besides the "group of people confined someplace against their will" part. |
Author: | blahmoomoo [ Tue Jun 27, 2017 5:51 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Dangan-Ronpa |
Also, Danganronpa 3 is an anime that wraps up the overarching plot from the games released so far. Danganronpa V3, which is set to release in late September, starts things anew (unless they're messing with us again). So don't get caught off guard by that. |
Author: | Lone [ Tue Jun 27, 2017 7:32 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Dangan-Ronpa |
Best thing is to boot up DR1 and see for yourself. I'd say Danganronpa focuses on more messing with you psychologically, without being outright gory thankfully (so you won't randomly come across the decapitated head of one of your classmates). |
Author: | Southern Corn [ Wed Jun 28, 2017 10:40 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Dangan-Ronpa |
Thanks for the info, everyone! I'm going to play the first game this weekend and see if it's any good or not, since I'm getting a little bit of mixed opinions here. |
Author: | MBr [ Wed Jun 28, 2017 3:43 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Dangan-Ronpa |
i think the first game is worth your time. It happens to be on sale with Ultra Despair Girls coming out on Steam yesterday. |
Author: | CaptainPancakes [ Fri Jun 30, 2017 5:18 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Dangan-Ronpa |
DR1 has worse mysteries for sure, but the stories are both so completely different that aside from the murder mystery / class trial trope you can't really compare the two games. Some of SDR2 mysteries are on par with AA IMO, but there are still a couple of flunks. The appeal for Danganronpa for me was the fun of watching your favorite characters in danger. There is a noticeable pattern of characters who die or live but it's still fun to predict on who will survive and be sad when your favorites die. The plot is...much crazier than AA, so I don't think comparing the two stories are really worth it. The tone is just completely different. Then again, even if it was objectively worse than AA, which it isn't, that doesn't mean it's not a great game that isn't worth yor time. It's a fun game! Yo'ull probably find someting to like about it. |
Author: | CatMuto [ Fri Jun 30, 2017 8:18 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Dangan-Ronpa |
CaptainPancakes wrote: Some of SDR2 mysteries are on par with AA IMO, That... doesn't speak well for DR, considering Ace Attorney's mysteries are pretty... very easy to figure out. C-A |
Author: | Southern Corn [ Fri Jun 30, 2017 9:20 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Dangan-Ronpa |
CaptainPancakes wrote: DR1 has worse mysteries for sure, but the stories are both so completely different that aside from the murder mystery / class trial trope you can't really compare the two games. Some of SDR2 mysteries are on par with AA IMO, but there are still a couple of flunks. The appeal for Danganronpa for me was the fun of watching your favorite characters in danger. There is a noticeable pattern of characters who die or live but it's still fun to predict on who will survive and be sad when your favorites die. The plot is...much crazier than AA, so I don't think comparing the two stories are really worth it. The tone is just completely different. Then again, even if it was objectively worse than AA, which it isn't, that doesn't mean it's not a great game that isn't worth yor time. It's a fun game! You'll probably find someting to like about it. Nice to hear! CatMuto wrote: Ace Attorney's mysteries are pretty... very easy to figure out. Eh, probably moreso for genre savvy people like you, Cat, but for me it was really my first experience with mystery visual novels and such. I wasn't even that much into mystery novels at the time, so that really did impact my perception of the game. Of course, some of the later games have much harder mysteries imo. Anyway, can't wait to play DR1 tomorrow! Which console should I get it on, btw? |
Author: | Lone [ Fri Jun 30, 2017 11:02 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Dangan-Ronpa |
Whichever one you own I guess, it's more or less the same. PC and PS4>Vita though. |
Author: | CaptainPancakes [ Fri Jun 30, 2017 1:53 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Dangan-Ronpa |
*shrug* I like it on Vita because I was in highschool when it came out so taking it to school or in the car was fun. I'm pretty sure PS4 has a 1+2 bundle that came out..? Did it come out yet idk lol. Any console is okay though really, at least for DR1+2. |
Author: | Cesar Zero [ Fri Jun 30, 2017 5:02 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Dangan-Ronpa |
I would say the console matters more on V3 since the audio/voices and apparently graphics are a lower quality on Vita than on PS4. PC version will also probably be better. |
Author: | Southern Corn [ Sun Jul 16, 2017 8:10 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Dangan-Ronpa |
Um, alright. So far at Chapter 1 of Deadly Life. This game has a pretty....unique style. Why is blood pink again? Spoiler: Thoughts on who the killer is |
Author: | Lone [ Sun Jul 16, 2017 9:09 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Dangan-Ronpa |
Glad you like it so far. The blood is pink because… reasons? People say it's to keep the rating down, but like, it's already at 17+, I doubt the blood being red would suddenly make it inappropriate for 17 year olds. I think Kodaka said it was for artistic reasons, to suit the psychedelic pop theme of the game. And yeah, it confused me too when seeing the first corpse. I was like, "Why is there pink paint all over the place?" and was wondering why no one in-game was making note of it. I didn't realize it was meant to be blood until a while later. |
Author: | CatMuto [ Sun Jul 16, 2017 9:25 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Dangan-Ronpa |
I think having the blood red would have shot it up to M/MA only, cutting out highschool students... for whom the game is probably intended. (Don't YOU want to play a game where kids your age kill each other over nothing?) I could be wrong; the blood could be bright pink for "artistic purposes" but I think it really cuts down on the intended impact a student's death may have... I mean, seeing a bloody corpse of a student? Terrifying. Seeing a corpse with bright pink 'blood' just looks funny and I can't take the death seriously. As for the 1st Case, never trust a game's mystery on the first case. It's the tutorial, it's supposed to be beyond obvious. Unfortunately, the hint is just as dumb in Japanese. Yes, it's no different from the localized hint, but it's still obvious. Though I've made it clear, not one of the mysteries in DR made me stumble. Not even the revelations that were supposed to be revelations. *coughskirtcough* C-A |
Author: | CaptainPancakes [ Sun Jul 16, 2017 11:44 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Dangan-Ronpa |
I'm fairly certain the pink blood was a censorship deal at first, but eventually just became part of the game's style. The mysteries for the most part don't get much better in the first game...for that you have to turn to the second game. |
Author: | Southern Corn [ Sun Jul 16, 2017 4:56 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Dangan-Ronpa |
Lone wrote: Glad you like it so far. The blood is pink because… reasons? People say it's to keep the rating down, but like, it's already at 17+, I doubt the blood being red would suddenly make it inappropriate for 17 year olds. I think Kodaka said it was for artistic reasons, to suit the psychedelic pop theme of the game. And yeah, it confused me too when seeing the first corpse. I was like, "Why is there pink paint all over the place?" and was wondering why no one in-game was making note of it. I didn't realize it was meant to be blood until a while later. I do like the style of the game, but the pinkishness of the blood really takes away from the seriousness of...well, you know, seeing someone's corpse? CatMuto wrote: I think having the blood red would have shot it up to M/MA only, cutting out highschool students... for whom the game is probably intended. (Don't YOU want to play a game where kids your age kill each other over nothing?) I could be wrong; the blood could be bright pink for "artistic purposes" but I think it really cuts down on the intended impact a student's death may have... I mean, seeing a bloody corpse of a student? Terrifying. Seeing a corpse with bright pink 'blood' just looks funny and I can't take the death seriously. Yeah, same, honestly. Wait, why would high school students want to play this in the first place? I think it should be rated M myself :/ Quote: As for the 1st Case, never trust a game's mystery on the first case. It's the tutorial, it's supposed to be beyond obvious. Unfortunately, the hint is just as dumb in Japanese. Yes, it's no different from the localized hint, but it's still obvious. Though I've made it clear, not one of the mysteries in DR made me stumble. Not even the revelations that were supposed to be revelations. *coughskirtcough* C-A Um, skirt? Still, the mystery in this case was alright. I'll talk about it later, but it still had some nice twists. CaptainPancakes wrote: I'm fairly certain the pink blood was a censorship deal at first, but eventually just became part of the game's style. The mysteries for the most part don't get much better in the first game...for that you have to turn to the second game. Eh, the mystery, huh. Yeah, I've finished the class trial at this point, so let's talk about it. Spoiler: |
Author: | Bolting Shaman [ Mon Jul 17, 2017 12:59 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Dangan-Ronpa |
Chapter 1's mystery would've been fine if only the killer's name wasn't spelled out in the open. Japanese or not, that feels like a serious underestimation of something so basic. Spoiler: Next chapter |
Author: | CatMuto [ Mon Jul 17, 2017 11:41 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Dangan-Ronpa |
Socot wrote: Um, skirt? Eh, the mystery, huh. Yeah, I've finished the class trial at this point, so let's talk about it. Spoiler: I was trying to give a hint to the spoiler I was referring to, without being obvious or having to use a spoiler tag. Spoiler: Class Trial Chapter 1 Quote: Chapter 1's mystery would've been fine if only the killer's name wasn't spelled out in the open. Japanese or not, that feels like a serious underestimation of something so basic. I hate 'dying message' cases. They suck, pure and simple. It was already mocked almost a century ago in Agatha Christie novels; that shows you how dumb the idea is. C-A |
Author: | Southern Corn [ Wed Jul 19, 2017 4:24 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Dangan-Ronpa |
Bolting Shaman wrote: Chapter 1's mystery would've been fine if only the killer's name wasn't spelled out in the open. Japanese or not, that feels like a serious underestimation of something so basic. Spoiler: Next chapter Haha, you definitely weren't kidding. Spoiler: To Cat Anyway, finished the trial. Phew. That was definitely more interesting. Spoiler: Thoughts |
Author: | Lone [ Wed Jul 19, 2017 4:54 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Dangan-Ronpa |
Socot wrote: Anyway, the constant mentions of 'hope' and 'despair' are kind of boring me now. It feels pretty trite after a while. :/ I feel like there should be a counter for how many times they're said, seriously. Hahahahahahahaha. Two more games of this. And an underwhelming anime series. (dunno about UDG, can't play it until I get a windows pc) Yeah, it's reallllyyy shallow. Game, morality and stuff really isn't that binary y'know… |
Author: | Southern Corn [ Wed Jul 19, 2017 6:37 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Dangan-Ronpa |
Lone wrote: Socot wrote: Anyway, the constant mentions of 'hope' and 'despair' are kind of boring me now. It feels pretty trite after a while. :/ I feel like there should be a counter for how many times they're said, seriously. Hahahahahahahaha. Two more games of this. And an underwhelming anime series. (dunno about UDG, can't play it until I get a windows pc) Yeah, it's reallllyyy shallow. Game, morality and stuff really isn't that binary y'know… O-oh dear... Anyway, started up Chapter 3's murder. Spoiler: |
Author: | Bolting Shaman [ Wed Jul 19, 2017 6:50 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Dangan-Ronpa |
Spoiler: Chapter 3 |
Author: | CatMuto [ Wed Jul 19, 2017 9:46 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Dangan-Ronpa |
Socot wrote: Spoiler: To Cat Spoiler: In Response Quote: Anyway, the constant mentions of 'hope' and 'despair' are kind of boring me now. It feels pretty trite after a while. :/ I feel like there should be a counter for how many times they're said, seriously. Ahahaha! Just you wait until the final trial! It'll be thrown around so much, it'll feel like they don't say anything but those two words anymore! Seriously, it comes across like the most dumbed-down Saturday Morning Cartoon to me. Like, even Captain Planet wasn't this dumbed-down with its "Pollution is bad; save the environment" messages. Spoiler: Chapter 3 C-A |
Author: | tiger_festival [ Wed Jul 19, 2017 10:15 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Dangan-Ronpa |
Spoiler: Chapter 2 |
Author: | Southern Corn [ Wed Jul 19, 2017 4:14 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Dangan-Ronpa |
Spoiler: To Cat Anyways, finished Chapter 3. Spoiler: Overall thoughts |
Author: | MBr [ Wed Jul 19, 2017 11:23 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Dangan-Ronpa |
Spoiler: Answering your question about Chapter 3 Puhuhuhuhu I can't wait until you're finished. I love the mastermind. Lone wrote: Two more games of this. And an underwhelming anime series. (dunno about UDG, can't play it until I get a windows pc Don't forget the light novels! Spoiler: Light novels As for Ultra Despair Girls, it's a cute little game. Nothing earth-shattering about the gameplay or graphics, but it's got the darkest themes in the series, as well as slightly expanding the universe. For an action game, it's too cutscene-heavy, though as a Danganronpa game it is story-driven. One thing I didn't expect were the puzzle sections, in which you have to destroy all enemies with a single explosion or electrocution, things like that. Knowing the story isn't required to understand the main games, but you learn things like Spoiler: |
Author: | CatMuto [ Thu Jul 20, 2017 10:37 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Dangan-Ronpa |
sumguy28 wrote: Spoiler: Chapter 2 It's happened before (in English voice-acting) that a male character was voiced by a woman (or a young man with a rather androgynous voice) and I honestly wondered if the revelation was that the male character was actually a woman. Also, a lot of men are voiced by women at times due to vocal reasons; child labor laws; etc. Quote: I love the mastermind. I find the mastermind of DR to be horribly boring. C-A PS: Why the hate for Togami? I like him, he's the only person who remotely acts decent in the situation they are in. |
Author: | Lone [ Thu Jul 20, 2017 11:07 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Dangan-Ronpa |
Haha, Togami is pretty interesting in that regard. I didn't like him at first; he's cold, spends most of his time away from others in the library, tampers with the crime scene, and talks down to you and everyone else. But then I realized he's justified in doing all of this (except maybe the tampering). It's not because he thinks he's smart, he just thinks everyone else is stupid. And he's not wrong either. Plus he becomes progressively less of a prick… though he still is one at heart. A likable prick. |
Author: | Southern Corn [ Thu Jul 20, 2017 2:23 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Dangan-Ronpa |
@MBr- Well, I still have some doubts. Spoiler: @the whole Togami thing- Spoiler: Anyway, I'm currently at the Deadly Life of Chapter 4 Spoiler: |
Author: | MBr [ Thu Jul 20, 2017 4:06 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Dangan-Ronpa |
Spoiler: |
Author: | Southern Corn [ Thu Jul 20, 2017 6:24 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Dangan-Ronpa |
MBr wrote: Spoiler: Spoiler: Anyway, in the Chapter 4 Trial. Spoiler: |
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