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Author:  Concerned Citizen [ Mon Jul 02, 2007 3:04 am ]
Post subject:  Persona

I just found about this game a month ago and looks pretty good.

Although, the concept of it is weird and well...just watch and decide if it's alright or not.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ouI4EULiwX8

Author:  Holy Hell [ Mon Jul 02, 2007 3:08 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Persona 3

Persona 2: Innocent Sin was absolutely godly.

Persona 3 was more or less mediocre.

Author:  Concerned Citizen [ Mon Jul 02, 2007 3:11 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Persona 3

Holy Hell wrote:
Persona 2: Innocent Sin was absolutely godly.

Persona 3 was more or less mediocre.



I personally never heard of the series, but this title caught my attention.

I hoped putting this up would have someone explain me what the series is about.

Author:  Holy Hell [ Mon Jul 02, 2007 3:14 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Persona 3

It's basically about the occult, with some semi-satire twists, of what I recall.

It's a spin-off of Shin Megami Tensei, nonetheless. Again, if I recall.

Author:  Concerned Citizen [ Mon Jul 02, 2007 3:16 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Persona 3

Holy Hell wrote:
It's a spin-off of Shin Megami Tensei, nonetheless. Again, if I recall.


XD I should of have known! It is a Atlus game and I noticed those people are obsessed with the occult. LOL

Author:  Kenjimurasame [ Mon Jul 02, 2007 8:16 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Persona 3

It's basically the latest of the Persona branch in the Megami Tensei line. It's more 'urbane' than the other games, as Persona usually deals with a group of people (students, mostly) who can summon supernatural alter-egos, personas, and fight demonic powers threatening their city.

Megami Tensei games usually focus on your character making choices, collecting and recruiting demons for your party, and killing God.

There are other spin-offs too, like Maken-X, Kuzunoha Raidou vs. the Soulless Army, and Digital Devil Saga (Although, DDS shares a bit more in common with Persona).

Author:  Holy Hell [ Mon Jul 02, 2007 8:21 am ]
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Was Digital Devil Saga the one with the cannibalism?

Author:  Wrestler Hatman [ Mon Jul 02, 2007 11:30 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Persona 3

Holy Hell wrote:
Was Digital Devil Saga the one with the cannibalism?

Yeah.

Myself, I'll be grabbing Persona 3. If only because I want more RPGs not named Final Fantasy nor RPGs made by GUST (plus, I've been wanting to try out the game for what it is instead of what it should have been :P)

Author:  Concerned Citizen [ Mon Jul 02, 2007 10:14 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Persona 3

Attorney Hatman wrote:
Holy Hell wrote:
Was Digital Devil Saga the one with the cannibalism?

Yeah.

Myself, I'll be grabbing Persona 3. If only because I want more RPGs not named Final Fantasy nor RPGs made by GUST (plus, I've been wanting to try out the game for what it is instead of what it should have been :P)


That's my same reason too, and I needed a fresh new face in my library. All I have is a few titles and their sequels.





CANNIBALISM?!?!? :ack:

Author:  Holy Hell [ Mon Jul 02, 2007 10:16 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Persona 3

Mighty Midget wrote:
CANNIBALISM?!?!? :ack:


Yea, it's pretty wicked.

Author:  Concerned Citizen [ Mon Jul 02, 2007 10:20 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Persona 3

Holy Hell wrote:
Mighty Midget wrote:
CANNIBALISM?!?!? :ack:


Yea, it's pretty wicked.


I looked up the game on Wikipedia...it looks really insane!

And I thought Nocturne was crazy enough! :meekins:

Author:  Chikikyo [ Mon Jul 02, 2007 10:23 pm ]
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I may believe in GOD, but Persona 3 looks wicked.

Author:  Holy Hell [ Mon Jul 02, 2007 10:25 pm ]
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Chikikyo wrote:
I may believe in GOD, but Persona 3 looks wicked.


wha

Author:  Kenjimurasame [ Tue Jul 03, 2007 2:20 am ]
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I don't really see what one has to do with the other...?

Author:  Wrestler Hatman [ Tue Jul 03, 2007 11:37 am ]
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Me neither. I guess it only makes sense if you're religious.

Author:  catchan [ Sun Jul 08, 2007 5:51 am ]
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I want to play Persona 3 but there's no hope of it coming over here :sob:

Author:  Holy Hell [ Sun Jul 08, 2007 6:12 am ]
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catchan wrote:
I want to play Persona 3 but there's no hope of it coming over here :sob:


It's coming over here. :P

Author:  Kenjimurasame [ Sun Jul 08, 2007 7:19 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Persona 3

They live in Europe, HH.

But who cares about what games they get anyway. ;D

I bet the German version of the game is basically the start screen and the end credits.

Author:  Holy Hell [ Sun Jul 08, 2007 7:21 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Persona 3

Kenjimurasame wrote:
They live in Europe, HH.


Europonians? On my internet? Naah, couldn't be.

Anyways, again, the game is charming but hardly much to be excited about. Was very disappointed in it.

Author:  Kenjimurasame [ Sun Jul 08, 2007 7:25 am ]
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Why don't you go watch some fucking Kanon and leave Persona 3 alone. :<

Well regardless of mediocrity, all Mega Ten games get an instant promotion to a higher level in my eyes so it will be great. Regardless of greatness, that is.

Author:  Holy Hell [ Sun Jul 08, 2007 7:29 am ]
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Well then let me rephrase that.

Persona 3 was mediocre for a Megaten game.

Author:  Kenjimurasame [ Sun Jul 08, 2007 7:31 am ]
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I guess that's a fair enough statement.

I'll withhold my judgment till I actually play it, though. Any new MegaTen game is welcome in my house.

Author:  Holy Hell [ Sun Jul 08, 2007 7:32 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Persona 3

Speaking of Megaten series, I was wondering about picking up the Soulless Army.

How good is it?

Author:  Kenjimurasame [ Sun Jul 08, 2007 7:35 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Persona 3

Well, it's not an 'RPG,' per se--it's action oriented.

Some people consider it kind of simple and stupid, but I wouldn't listen to them. I really enjoyed the game, and the detective aspect of it made it a little more intriguing.

It feels like you're playing a tv show, to be honest. I had fun with it, and I'd play it again.

Author:  Concerned Citizen [ Tue Jul 10, 2007 3:38 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Persona 3

So, it's basically a interactive game right?

Author:  Kenjimurasame [ Tue Jul 10, 2007 4:28 pm ]
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Er, which one? Kuzunoha Raidou?

It's more of an 'action' game, yeah.

Author:  Wrestler Hatman [ Tue Jul 10, 2007 8:52 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Persona 3

Kenjimurasame wrote:
Well, it's not an 'RPG,' per se--it's action oriented.

Some people consider it kind of simple and stupid, but I wouldn't listen to them. I really enjoyed the game, and the detective aspect of it made it a little more intriguing.

It feels like you're playing a tv show, to be honest. I had fun with it, and I'd play it again.

The only thing that's "bad" is the presentation - dated graphics and no voice-over at all, but these things grow on you the more you play the game... well, they fade in the background, at least.

Author:  Concerned Citizen [ Tue Jul 10, 2007 8:59 pm ]
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Kenjimurasame wrote:
Er, which one? Kuzunoha Raidou?

It's more of an 'action' game, yeah.


Is the game made by the same people as Persona 3?

Author:  Agent Orion [ Wed Jul 11, 2007 10:22 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Persona 3

I'll be grabbing this as soon as I can. Mostly because I love any SMT game.

Author:  Kenjimurasame [ Thu Jul 12, 2007 12:06 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Persona 3

Mighty Midget wrote:
Kenjimurasame wrote:
Er, which one? Kuzunoha Raidou?

It's more of an 'action' game, yeah.


Is the game made by the same people as Persona 3?


Yes, all of the Mega Ten games are made by the same (mostly) core of people, especially art design wise. It's a team that works on the games, which is why they all usually have the same sort of cohesion between each game.

Author:  Ryshili [ Mon Jul 23, 2007 8:06 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Persona 3

God, with Persona 2... the fricken battle system BORED me to DEATH. *sigh*

I made food while it was doing the work for me.. I hated it. ;_;

Author:  Platyphyllum [ Tue Jul 24, 2007 9:42 am ]
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I really liked Persona 2: Innocent Sin so I guess I'll get Persona 3 just to see how its like! IF it gets really bad feedback, I might rethink getting it though.

Author:  Wrestler Hatman [ Tue Jul 24, 2007 11:29 am ]
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It already got bad feedback because it's not like the other Personas.

So I guess you should rethink about getting it?

Author:  zuddy [ Tue Jul 24, 2007 8:16 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Persona 3

I don't understand how I missed this topic.

The game is shit. It's worse than Custer's Revenge. I'm not even fucking joking.

Author:  Wrestler Hatman [ Tue Jul 24, 2007 10:20 pm ]
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A small question : WHY does it suck? Lotsa people say it sucks, but no one ever says why.

Author:  zuddy [ Wed Jul 25, 2007 12:19 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Persona 3

Because I played it, hated it, and proceeded to give my usual inflammatory opinion.

However because I like you Hatman, I will post an objective (as objective as it gets) review I wrote on it ages ago.

Quote:
Okay, our premise is that we are a high school student who can summon Persona, by shooting ourself in the head. Simple enough.

Before I go any further, I'd like to make note of the fact that I cannot read even a single word of Japanese, so all plot intricacies, dialogue, etc. is lost on me. I talk to khalahaley from GameFAQs regularly though, and he's told me basically what the plot is, some terms, etc.

Okay. In the morning, it's school. The game sends you there, and when at school you can choose to answer questions, go to sleep during class, et cetera. This increases stats. After school you can do club stuff, go out, or do shopping or karaoke which also increases stats.

Time passes when an event happens. As long as you don't trigger that event you're free to wander and do whatever you want in that time. When you reach home, it becomes night, where you can talk to the teammates and such.

After night, it's the shadow time. It's actually more like Shadow Time, so I'll call it that. When in Shadow Time, the school turns into a big (really big) tower, which is the game's only dungeon. It's randomized and there are teleporters every few floors so you don't have to climb up 100000000 floors of dungeon in one night. Normal people also turn into coffins and don't realize there's a Shadow Time. Some people are immune to the coffin-dizing, and those are also the people who have the potential to summon Personas.

Now, when you explore the dungeon you can take along your classmates. One of the cool things about this is they don't all merge into the protagonist's body, but you can see them surround you. You can also tell them to scatter and explore the dungeon on their own, but you naturally won't have them to help you in battle.

In battle, you can't give direct orders to your teammates - it's done through AI presets, à la Dragon Quest Monsters, Tales, and such. Attack main chara's target, Heal, Defense, et cetera. Anyway, battles take place in what's sort of like the press turn system from Shin Megami Tensei 3 and Digital Devil Saga. It's best described as "invisible kinda press turn".

Each character has one chance basically, but say one enemy's weak to fire. You cast fire at it, and it goes into down mode. When it's down, you get another chance. But even if you attack it with fire again that's it. So if there's three enemies weak to fire, three extra chances is all you get until the enemy's normal again. Also, when all the enemies are down, you can do a team attack, which uses up no "kinda press turns", no HP/SP or anything, it's just a free action for getting all enemies down. It's just all the characters jumping in and hitting the monsters, and it does lots of damage. There's also the mix raids, Persona combination attacks, but I haven't done any.

Your character by himself can only attack. To use skills, he has to "equip" a Persona. In that respect, it's a lot like Pokémon. Say you have Persona A with Dia, and Persona B with Agi. If you want to heal, you have to equip Persona A, and if you want to cast fire, you have to equip Persona B.

Another thing is, your teammates can get tired while exploring. I'm not kidding. You'll be wandering in the dungeon, and suddenly one of them will go "I'm hungry." You can then let them go home or not. You can't explore by yourself, so if all of your team goes home you have to as well, but if you work them too hard then they'll fall sick - and you can't explore until they're better. There is one time when you can explore all you want, and that's during full moon - but that's still just once a month.

Some minor things:
- On the world map, you don't move - you select a place to go à la Suikoden III.
- The prevalence of the school bits might cause some people to consider the main game a school sim, and the dungeon a fancy extra.
- As if it isn't already easy enough, there's only Easy and Normal mode. This is in stark contrast to SMT3, which has Normal and DEATH. There might be a Hard mode after you beat the game, but I haven't.
- There's English songs playing all the time. Like that song from the trailer, that sort of song, all the time.
- It'd be really easy to kill the Persona summoners by switching their gunshapedthing with a real gun. "OH LOOK A SHADOW LET'S KILL IT" *bang*

Basic rundown of the plot:
There are these creatures that come out in the Shadow Time called (take a wild guess) Shadows (!!!) who like to eat peoples' brains and make the people dumb. You have to find out why they exist, why there's a Shadow Time, why do they come out of the dungeon, et cetera.

Bottom line, I'd say rent before buying. Different people will find different aspects of the game enjoyable, some won't like it at all, whatever. Persona(lol)lly, I'm going to buy it because it's needed for the collection, but I won't be finishing the game.

Author:  Wrestler Hatman [ Wed Jul 25, 2007 1:02 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Persona 3

zuddha wrote:
Because I played it, hated it, and proceeded to give my usual inflammatory opinion.

However because I like you Hatman, I will post an objective (as objective as it gets) review I wrote on it ages ago.

[snipped for convenience]

Thanks very much. Now I know why it sucks.

Hence I can't complain if I actually DO get it.

Author:  Holy Hell [ Wed Jul 25, 2007 4:42 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Persona 3

I actually found myself enjoying the school sim part somewhat, but only because it's a concept still new to me, as I haven't really played a "date sim/school sim/any sim" before (with maybe one or two exceptions) and it was sort of neat at the time.

Author:  Wrestler Hatman [ Wed Jul 25, 2007 11:30 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Persona 3

Holy Hell wrote:
I actually found myself enjoying the school sim part somewhat, but only because it's a concept still new to me, as I haven't really played a "date sim/school sim/any sim" before (with maybe one or two exceptions) and it was sort of neat at the time.

Oh, I still find the premise interesting even if they tacked on "Persona" to boost sales. It's the gameplay that sounds awful.

Author:  Concerned Citizen [ Wed Jul 25, 2007 11:32 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Persona 3

I am still going to get is, because I haven't played a RPG in awhile that is not made by Square Enix.

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