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The first screenings in the U.S. started a couple hours ago and it comes out tomorrow, so I'm interested in hearing what you all think of it. I won't get to see it for a couple more days, but I've already spoiled myself with a lot of the plot and I'd like to see what other fans think about it. Star Wars was a huge part of my childhood and I love all 6 films so I'm excited to see how this one goes.

So what do you think? Did you like it? Did you hate it? Let me know what you thought about it.
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Pretty good for the most part, don't know if I'd say it's as good as the original trilogy but easily better than the prequels.

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It's obvious they borrowed a lot from New Hope but it works. The actual planet being a massive superweapon was a neat twist (though if the First Order knew where the Resistance base was all along, why didn't they just shoot that first instead of a bunch of other planets?), but I really hope they're done with Death Stars after this.

R2-D2 being out of power for no reason and then miraculously coming back at the very end to provide the rest of the map was a major ass-pull and my biggest complaint about the film.

I do hope Poe gets a bit more screen time in the next movie, it seemed like he was going to be a major character but then he disappeared at the beginning and just showed up again 2/3rds of the way through to fly an X-wing in a couple scenes.

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Very decent. Ace Attorney people I'm just gonna go ahead and turn this into a ranking order. My rankings are:

III > V = VI > VII > I > II > IV.

Weird order, I know.

I have some major beefs with VII but at the end of the day it's a beautifully shot and well directed movie that just has some writing issues that may or may not be its undoing as it starts expanding on it in later films. The second half of its problems is how iterative and carbon-copied it is from earlier films. I don't know what I think about the fan service. Several points throughout the movie I wondered about how I would feel if Han Solo and old-timer company would've been completely new and original characters instead. It's their status of legendary that's important to the plot. I felt the emphasis placed on the returning cast was akin to Phoenix in Apollo Justice. They got too much focus and plot-importance and it took away from the original cast ever so slightly.

Another flaw is that it basically copies the plot of A New Hope in too many ways. The trademark big battle felt forced and forgettable, and the (literally) biggest threat was too easily taken down and not explained or introduced well enough.

Okay, I think that's about all the negative stuff I had. As for the rest, I thought the writing was lively in a way no movie of the prequel trilogy could ever come close to, the action is great and I've never felt this much "weight" and physicality to battles, whether it's lightsabers or blasters, in a Star Wars movie. Also, while I had gripes with the story, it really just set up the new cast and a new mysteries as well as expectations that the sequels can play off on to great effect (hopefully). There's also good moments of victory as well as tragedy. The drama however is in Soap Opera territory, but honestly I can live with that unless it goes overboard in the sequels. The new central villain figure is also great and by far the most original thing about the movie, and strangely he made me laugh a few times, and I still can't tell whether that humor was intended or not.

Overall, decent for sure. The greatest Star Wars ever? Not in a million lightyears. The worst ever? Thank god we'll always put some of the prequel movies down there for the others to stand tall on.

PS. I have some very critical thoughts about more specific things I'd like to get into, but I won't go into spoilers here. I'll just say it has to do with the premise and how well this movie continues the closed plot of the original trilogy. It left me with many questions about things that are not obvious nor explained but seem really important and I can't help but feel this was too contrived. Perhaps there was no way around that when you reboot a story that was already finished.
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It's a great film, the praise it's getting is well-deserved. It's got it flaws but it's nothing major and it shouldn't ruin your viewing unless you're particularly nitpicky about these kinds of things. The highlight for me was Finn. The guy playing him is a great actor and his raw energy brought the movie to life.

Not sure if it's my favourite SW film but it's definitely up there.
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It was the greatest remake of A New Hope that I've ever seen! Possible the greatest remake of all time!




...Wait, it was supposed to be a new movie? ...
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I liked it on its own merits, even as someone who has only seen the original trilogy twice. The parallels to A New Hope were a bit too on-the-nose for my liking, and it feels a tad incomplete as of right now, but hey, that's what episode 8's for right? I think my opinion on ep 7 will solidify when I see the next films, but until then, it's fun enough.
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Obviously, the one thing that stands out most to me is death of Han Solo, of all people.
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A good film that deserves ali the praises it is getting, but it isn't the series' best title. I think most fans agree on that
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I think about it too much and it disappoints me when I reflect on "just how did this even happen?"

But it's enjoyable if you don't think about it.
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I loved it. I saw it twice. It was - a bit "safe", story-wise, but honestly more than anything that felt like an... apology for the prequels. I'm sure it'll diverge more significantly in VIII - but TFA, as it was, was a wonderful movie. Rey, Finn, and Poe are worthy inheritors of Star Wars protagonistship, and I loved them and their interactions and their interactions with returning characters.

I just. love Star Wars a lot. And this felt like what Star Wars should be.
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I haven't seen it,but I've spoilt myself on the plot,and from what I've read it seems like a copy of A New Hope,which is weird because imo that's actually the worst SWs films.

Probably will watch them after the prequels. It's been a while.

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Saw the red title and the first thing I thought was 'Star Wars: The Edge Awakens'
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Hated how it overrode ROTJ's ending -- i.e., one of the most-classic happy endings of all time.

Other than that, though, it was decent.

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Have to respect its risk-taking of killing Han off, too.
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Never watching Rogue One. It has no Star Wars vibe to it and something seems incredibly dry about it. Throw the fact that I've heard it has some blatant fanservice in there too and I just think I'll remain a more believing and nostalgic Star Wars fan by SKIPPING IT.

Force Awakens was good but also really flawed. It has strong potential but undermines itself by shying away from proper development or overempowering Rey instead of developing her, thus making her unrelatable as a character, and Finn stands in her shadow in the process after his interesting and novel beginnings of breaking away from his Neo-Empire ways. The idea of these cool kids catching up to the legends of Han and Luke and Leia (RIP Carrie Fisher :'( ) is excellent, reminds me of Apollo Justice in the dumbest possible way, and lastly the movie is well shot and pops in your mind very vividly upon reflection which is good. I think JJ Abrams has a weakness when it comes to action. Every scene features someone running towards the camera or something else. The pacing is too quick. As I said, it's too shy to really open up to you and skips over all the "unpleasant" stuff except for one moment which then feels strangely forced when everything else was so lighthearted.

There's potential for something in all 3 main characters but they have to be careful about Rey. I almost want them to retcon her force powers but that would just feel cheap as well. I'm not sure what Ryan Johnson will do for future movies -- I have to admit I'm a bit skeptical he's going to make it patronizing in some attempt to be "smart" or something given how his previous movies are all these pseudo-something flicks with stupid gimmicks and needless complexity, r/WritingPrompts style or Christopher Nolan style. I want Star Wars to remain simple yet effective, speaking to reductive but striking truths via its metaphors for Good and Evil and I want there to be memorable lightsaber fights, spaghetti western elements and romantic subplots. I want it to be a goddamn space opera as it should be.
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