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Author:  Spiker [ Fri Dec 19, 2008 7:33 pm ]
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Regina Berry (16) was going to get married to Max (21) and was interested in Trilo (a puppet with a 31-year-old ventriloquist).

I know she was slow, but that age difference a puppet fetish are some weird stuff. I guess anything can happen in the circus.. :eh?:

Author:  hyperguy152 [ Fri Dec 19, 2008 7:38 pm ]
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Now that you tell me what her age is, it does raise a question. Let's see. 21-16= only 5 years. I'm okay with that. If it was 6, then I would have a bit of a problem.

Author:  Spiker [ Fri Dec 19, 2008 7:47 pm ]
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hyperguy152 wrote:
Now that you tell me what her age is, it does raise a question. Let's see. 21-16= only 5 years. I'm okay with that. If it was 6, then I would have a bit of a problem.


It's not so much the difference itself, but the fact that Regina is still a minor. If they were both ten years older it wouldn't be strange.

Author:  hyperguy152 [ Fri Dec 19, 2008 7:56 pm ]
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The thing that's strange about Trillo is that Regina sees him as an actual person rather than a puppet. And just because Ben is 31 doesn't mean Trillo is too.

Author:  Spiker [ Fri Dec 19, 2008 7:59 pm ]
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Regina isn't all that smart..

Yes, but Ben IS Trilo, technically. He's the one doing the talking/movement for him.

Author:  hyperguy152 [ Fri Dec 19, 2008 10:34 pm ]
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Yes, but that depends on whose mindset you're using: Regina's or your own. With your own, it would make sense for them to be the same. But with Regina's, they're seperate people who happen to hag around together. It's a good thing she chose Max, because I don't have to be the person who has to explain it to her.

Author:  General Luigi [ Fri Dec 19, 2008 10:43 pm ]
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Age differences don't really bother me. In many countries, people can be wed at Regina's age if they have judicial consent.

There's also the fact that were she to accept "Trilo's" proposal, she would ultimately learn the truth. I don't think either potential husband would be willing to keep her as sheltered from reality as her father did.

Author:  WunderbarPhalanges [ Fri Dec 19, 2008 11:04 pm ]
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General Luigi wrote:
Age differences don't really bother me. In many countries, people can be wed at Regina's age if they have judicial consent.

There's also the fact that were she to accept "Trilo's" proposal, she would ultimately learn the truth. I don't think either potential husband would be willing to keep her as sheltered from reality as her father did.


Yes, I believe you can get married in most states in the U.S. with parental consent at 16.
It doesn't really bother me, either.

Author:  Zinle [ Sat Dec 20, 2008 11:21 am ]
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Spiker wrote:
Regina isn't all that smart..

That's clear...
If she would then she would ask an interesting question from Trilo:

:regina: - Can you tell me why your friends hand is in your a**?

Author:  hyperguy152 [ Mon Dec 22, 2008 11:18 pm ]
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WunderbarPhalanges wrote:
General Luigi wrote:
Age differences don't really bother me. In many countries, people can be wed at Regina's age if they have judicial consent.

There's also the fact that were she to accept "Trilo's" proposal, she would ultimately learn the truth. I don't think either potential husband would be willing to keep her as sheltered from reality as her father did.


Yes, I believe you can get married in most states in the U.S. with parental consent at 16.
It doesn't really bother me, either.


Sounds like a good idea to me.

Author:  Litral [ Tue Dec 23, 2008 4:32 am ]
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It was much more creepy how she didn't seem to care at all that her father just got brutally murdered a few hours ago. Actually, at that point I made up a whole theory with her being the murderer, including tigers that jump so far they don't leave footprints anywhere near.

Author:  ashxu [ Tue Dec 23, 2008 11:56 am ]
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I give Ben the
Image

Author:  Freyarule [ Tue Dec 23, 2008 12:07 pm ]
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I wasn't too bothered with the ReginaxMax age gap....the TriloxRegina, that was pretty freaky. When Regina was saying, "oooh isn't Trilo brilliant? And he's a singer too, yay!" my face was literally :beef:

Author:  Magnus Orion [ Wed Dec 24, 2008 6:50 pm ]
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I sorta found everyone's swooning over regina as a whole creepy...
But that's just me.

Author:  Freyarule [ Wed Dec 24, 2008 7:26 pm ]
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Yeah, it did get a bit out of hand...I mean she's cute and all but....yeah.

Author:  fatalfeline [ Wed Dec 24, 2008 7:56 pm ]
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Also, she's the only girl there. XD

But anyway.... it's even creepier if you think about from Ben's viewpoint. It's already apparent that he has serious problems because he relies on his ventriloquism to be confident as well as to be able to communicate with others, to the point of literally having arguements with himself. He's a 31-year old man in love with a 16-year old girl, which isn't unheard of, but he's trying to seduce her with his PUPPET. Even more, Regina actually CONSIDERS marrying the dummy, without realizing that it's actually Ben who wants her.

Ben is a creepy pedo bear indeed.

Author:  Freyarule [ Sat Dec 27, 2008 8:57 pm ]
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fatalfeline wrote:
Also, she's the only girl there. XD

But anyway.... it's even creepier if you think about from Ben's viewpoint. It's already apparent that he has serious problems because he relies on his ventriloquism to be confident as well as to be able to communicate with others, to the point of literally having arguements with himself. He's a 31-year old man in love with a 16-year old girl, which isn't unheard of, but he's trying to seduce her with his PUPPET. Even more, Regina actually CONSIDERS marrying the dummy, without realizing that it's actually Ben who wants her.

Ben is a creepy pedo bear indeed.


xDD Now I just need to see a Pedo-Ben image, and I'll rofl for sure.

Author:  Trench Kamen [ Sun Dec 28, 2008 3:24 am ]
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hyperguy152 wrote:
21-16= only 5 years. I'm okay with that. If it was 6, then I would have a bit of a problem.


...why?

Spiker wrote:
It's not so much the difference itself, but the fact that Regina is still a minor. If they were both ten years older it wouldn't be strange.


Because the law is absolute morality. Right.

I do agree that age differences become less of an issue as both parties get older--there is less of a glaring maturity gap, and while at first you can get away without it being much of an issue, as the relationship goes on and real life issues start to occur, a difference in maturity can be the source of a ton of problems.

Author:  Magnus Orion [ Sun Dec 28, 2008 4:39 am ]
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According to the standard creepiness rule... 21/2 + 7 = 17.5, 17.5>16 so yeah, its creepy. Ben is even creepier.

Author:  Pearls [ Tue Dec 30, 2008 5:39 pm ]
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It's a little creepy, but once Regina turns 18, it's not so bad. Five years isn't that much of a difference, but it can be disturbing depending on how old both people are. If Max were 18 and Regina were 13 (still five years difference), that would be even MORE creepy.

Author:  hyperguy152 [ Thu Jan 01, 2009 3:52 pm ]
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So we establish that the age difference is slightly creepy and that Ben should be in a mental institution. All in favor?

Author:  Scarf [ Sat Jan 10, 2009 12:41 am ]
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I...honestly don't think it's very creepy >.>;;

Somewhat questionable, yes. Creepy, not in my opinion

Author:  L~A [ Sun Jan 11, 2009 4:45 pm ]
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Well... that sure is some weird situation, I agree. A bit creepy, but not that much. After all, there's no way Reggina could have married a puppet... I don't think her father was stupid enough (or too nice with her) to let her mary a puppet. I don't even think it's possible (legally meaning).
As someone already said, I found more 'creepy' the fact she didn't even seem to care about her father who has just been murdered (especially when we learn everything he did for her). I, too, thought for a moment SHE was the murderer, even though I didn't think of the jumping-tiger theory at all.

Oh, I found Ben much more creepy, not being able to express himself without a puppet which doesn't even seem to obey him !...
He seems not to have any personality at all, brr... even though he does have one.

Author:  Narron [ Sun Jan 11, 2009 9:16 pm ]
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hyperguy152 wrote:
Ben should be in a mental institution. All in favor?
I. For decidedly different reasons.

Eh, I guess it's a little creepy. I don't really care much, though. :/

Author:  Oos [ Mon Jan 12, 2009 11:48 pm ]
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Ben should have gone for Max. Just as much sparkle, just less creepy due to age~

Author:  mikumo-hime [ Tue Jan 13, 2009 11:01 am ]
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i find this a real creep, that's why the berry big circus case is my least favorite. i think regina's just way too idiot. i mean, okay she's childish but even little kids don't wanna marry puppets.

Author:  ribena [ Wed Jan 14, 2009 1:37 am ]
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to me, the 16 and 21 age gap isn't so creepy as that's the ages me and my boyfriend were when we got together.
but i'm a hell of a lot more mature than regina.




(...but max is a whole lot more immature than my boyfriend.)

Author:  Seal481 [ Wed Jan 14, 2009 4:27 am ]
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Didn't they go over this in the case itself? She was born and raised on the circus and has no idea how the outside world functions. Our qualms about her being a minor or the age difference between her and Ben, or even her wanting to marry a puppet would have meant nothing to her.

Author:  Louise [ Mon Jan 19, 2009 9:01 pm ]
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Haha but if it was set in England she would have been legal X^D

Author:  Roflmaosaur [ Sun Jan 25, 2009 9:12 pm ]
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Pearls wrote:
It's a little creepy, but once Regina turns 18, it's not so bad. Five years isn't that much of a difference, but it can be disturbing depending on how old both people are. If Max were 18 and Regina were 13 (still five years difference), that would be even MORE creepy.


I find that personally offending.

Author:  CyberSkye [ Mon Jan 26, 2009 5:39 pm ]
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Surely it's less the age gap, and more the fact that ONE'S MADE OF BLIMMIN' WOOD?

Author:  Pearls [ Mon Jan 26, 2009 5:58 pm ]
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Roflmaosaur wrote:
Pearls wrote:
It's a little creepy, but once Regina turns 18, it's not so bad. Five years isn't that much of a difference, but it can be disturbing depending on how old both people are. If Max were 18 and Regina were 13 (still five years difference), that would be even MORE creepy.


I find that personally offending.


I didn't mean to offend anyone. I was only pointing out the fact that age difference matters A LOT when one person is of legal age and the other person is not.

Author:  Purple Angel [ Mon Jan 26, 2009 6:48 pm ]
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Wait so if the age difference between Regina and Max is five years, so the age difference between Regina and Ben would be 31-16 so that is ummm... :yogi:
I got it! It would be a 15 years difference - creepy...

Author:  Feather Black [ Mon Jan 26, 2009 7:00 pm ]
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I think the most creepy is that Trilo intends to marry Regina...

Have you ever seen a pairing Girl X Puppet ?

Author:  Purple Angel [ Mon Jan 26, 2009 7:12 pm ]
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Yes and when Ben was 16 then Regina would only be 1 years old........... :grey:
Also if she did marry the puppet then she would be technically married to Ben...

Author:  B-Man99 [ Thu Jul 31, 2014 4:21 pm ]
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The circus isn't exactly a serious place. I assumed Trilo's proposal to Regina was just a light-hearted joke, and jokes can tend to be carried on and added onto, especially given Trilo's character (albeit one made up by Ben). The fact that it led to funny dialogue in the courtroom is even more signs of this.

Author:  RoyalNutcase513 [ Fri Oct 09, 2015 6:43 pm ]
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Spiker wrote:
Regina Berry (16) was going to get married to Max (21) and was interested in Trilo (a puppet with a 31-year-old ventriloquist).

I know she was slow, but that age difference a puppet fetish are some weird stuff. I guess anything can happen in the circus.. :eh?:


Its japan.
Spoiler:
The age of consent there is 13, so all the fantasies of marrying a hot school girl arent pedophilia and are legal

Author:  Oliver [ Sat Oct 10, 2015 1:04 am ]
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RoyalNutcase513 wrote:
Spiker wrote:
Regina Berry (16) was going to get married to Max (21) and was interested in Trilo (a puppet with a 31-year-old ventriloquist).

I know she was slow, but that age difference a puppet fetish are some weird stuff. I guess anything can happen in the circus.. :eh?:


Its japan.
Spoiler:
The age of consent there is 13, so all the fantasies of marrying a hot school girl arent pedophilia and are legal

That's just swell. :udgey:

Author:  Pessimistic_Fool [ Sat Oct 10, 2015 11:21 am ]
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"Age of consent" does not equal "age of legal adulthood".
"Age of consent" means simply just what it says - that the person who has reached tat age is now (by law, at least) considered capable of deciding whether or not they want to have sex.
It does not mean that:

-From now on, every sexual activity they have will be considered consensual. Sexual assault is still a thing.
-They are automatically attracted to older men. Age differences are still a thing.
-It's now okay for 50 year old creepy guys to have intercourse with them. Pedophilia is still a thing.

Depending on regional laws, it may or may not mean that they can now agree to have intercourse with a 50 year old. May, mind you. It doesn't by default. It can just as well mean that they are free to have intercourse with boys their own age or within a defined close age range.
In fact, a quick Google search tells me that
Quote:
(...)all municipalities and prefectures have their own particular laws such as Tokyo's “Youth Protection Law” which prohibit adults from having sex with youths who are under 17 years old.

Author:  luck [ Sat Oct 10, 2015 1:27 pm ]
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In my country (Spain) age of consent was 13 until this summer (now it's 16) and that doesn't mean people found normal for adults to sleep with teenagers. Sure, you couldn't get arrested for it, but you'd probaly be out of job and friends as soon as they heard of it, and everyone would call you a creepy weirdo.

Actually, I'm pretty sure that if you were 31 and your partner was 25, people still would think it's weird.

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