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Flowery wrote:
It's a common female trait to be 'clingy'


Mia wasn't clingy.
Lotta wasn't clingy.
Dee Vasquez wasn't clingy.
Penny wasn't clingy.
Morgan wasn't clingy.
Ini wasn't clingy.

Need I go on?
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Whee, War of the Sexes. Gonna stay outta that one.

As for AAAAADRIAAAAAAAAN I'm gonna say bi-curious. She did experiment with Juan, eh?
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That was more "force myself to be with him so I can get my hands on the note," but yes.

It's funny to hear bi-curious used in the context of wanting to experiment with the opposite sex. >.>
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Yeah, I don't know why everyone uses "she had an 'intimate relationship' with Juan" as evidence for anything. Did we all miss the part about her despising both him and Matt? That she was only conspiring with him to get what she wanted? If it proves anything it's just that Adrian's tougher than she gives herself credit for.
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Out of all the things you could discuss here..! Ack
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You mean like discussing whether or not Phoenix was fat? >.>

We <3 Adrian.

We also <3 Adrian in a relationship with other women >:D
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And I hate to point it out again, but there is no sexual innuendo in the game stronger than "FRANZISKA CAME OVER AND SHOWED ME HOW TO USE THE WHIP :D":


Where about is that quote anyway? I can't find it in my copy of JFA.
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Where about is that quote anyway? I can't find it in my copy of JFA.

It's in GS3.
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You mean like discussing whether or not Phoenix was fat? >.>

We <3 Adrian.

We also <3 Adrian in a relationship with other women >:D


Heh. Frank Sawit I don't have anything against any different kind of sexuality, so don't think that. (I know a couple of gay people/lesbians myself.) I just think it's a bizarre topic considering there was no evidence pointing to Adrian being a lesbian. I don't think appearances are enough to decide that. I mean, you never know, maybe Phoenix was half right when he thought Grossberg and Redd could have been lovers. Gant
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Sure, not the majority of girls are clingy. But goodness have I known a number in my life, and that's what I'm getting at here. Even though it's not the best trait, it's hard to deny that it still does show up in a girl from time to time.


It shows up in both genders from time to time. But Adrian isn't clingy.
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Flowery wrote:
But goodness have I known a number in my life, and that's what I'm getting at here. Even though it's not the best trait, it's hard to deny that it still does show up in a girl from time to time.

Putting aside the sweeping generalizations and the sexism, this has what to do with Adrian, who officially has a mental disorder?
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She's clingy, but not because she's a woman. She's clingy because she has a disorder.

Shaun - Why doesn't there have to be evidence showing she's straight? And besides, there IS at the very least hinting that she's QUITE gay :P
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CantFaketheFunk wrote:
She's clingy, but not because she's a woman. She's clingy because she has a disorder.

Shaun - Why doesn't there have to be evidence showing she's straight? And besides, there IS at the very least hinting that she's QUITE gay :P


Myself, I believe she's probably (at the moment) Franzisexual. Like she was Celesexual before.
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Hints? Phoenix Like?
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Though we don't know if there were any others, we only know of two people she's clung to--and they were both female. While it is possible that she had others BEFORE Celeste, the fact that she doesn't choose someone else for two years until Franziska leads me to beleive that the people she builds her life around have to... well, they have to have something special.

In this case, boobs.

(Just kidding. But she has a history of firmly latching onto other women)

There are only two men in her life, and she hates both with a blazing passion. Even afterwards, she doesn't really thank Phoenix/Miles/the Judge much--she's still sort of fixated on Franziska.

"Those stupid men and their stupid male pride."

I just want to know why there needs to be proof that she's attracted to women while there's certainly no proof she's attracted to men at all.
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But women help each other out like that. They don't discuss such personal things with men usually. Okay, maybe you're right but we can never be sure.
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See my rant in the favorite PW pairings thread, then :P

And you're right, we can't be sure either way. It's never actually said in game, "Hey guess what, Adrian's a big ol' dyke!" Nor is it said, "Hey guess what, Adrian LOVES t3h c0ck!" So, it's up to us to interpret it. And as far as I'm concerned, there's far more evidence that points to her being attracted to women than there was saying she was attracted to men.

But honestly, I don't think she works well with Franziska because she's a lesbian and Friska's female. I think the two work well together because it's Adrian and Franziska--it's the CHARACTERS, not the genders.
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But honestly, I don't think she works well with Franziska because she's a lesbian and Friska's female. I think the two work well together because it's Adrian and Franziska--it's the CHARACTERS, not the genders.


So true. I can't think of anyone in the game - male or female - who works better with either of them than the other.
That was a horribly-structured sentance, but you know what I mean. I'd still love the pairing if one or both were male; as long as that spark between was still there, I'd love them.

They wouldn't be as cute, though >.>
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Don't get me wrong, I -adore- the Miles/Fran dynamic and think it's by far one of the cutest in the game....

...but it's by no means romantic in any way. Miles is a huge source of strength to Franziska, even for someone as independant as she is... but he gives Franziska something COMPLETELY DIFFERENT than what she gets from Adrian.
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Flowery wrote:
musouka wrote:
Flowery wrote:
Sure, not the majority of girls are clingy. But goodness have I known a number in my life, and that's what I'm getting at here. Even though it's not the best trait, it's hard to deny that it still does show up in a girl from time to time.


It shows up in both genders from time to time. But Adrian isn't clingy.


...Now we're gonna say she's NOT clingy? x___x How is that possible, that's the entire point of her whole... ahh my gosh ok. ok. just, nevermind... ahh geez

Anyways, said my part. done. :3 Have fun now.


Mental disorder=clingy?
wikipedia lawl ¬_¬


    Anyway. I like EdgeyxFranzy. But I also agree that it's not romantic at all, especially from his side (which is something I admit to at the same time as saying I like them as a pairing. I make no sense, lawl xP) and AdrianxFranzy is a much different dynamic that fits together better.
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    CantFaketheFunk wrote:
    well, they have to have something special.

    In this case, boobs.


    In that case, it's possible she has been attached to Grossberg before. Redd White

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    TheDarkArchon wrote:
    CantFaketheFunk wrote:
    well, they have to have something special.

    In this case, boobs.


    In that case, it's possible she has been attached to Grossberg before. Redd White

    Self-inflicted mental images >_<


    *falls to the ground with limbs and fingers locked up in frozen terror, eyes glazed over, making strange noises like GRAAAG, GHGGGGHG, NNNNGGRRAAA, and twitching from time to time*
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    Dammit ARchon, look at what you did. You broke the gnome.

    I hope you're happy with yourself.

    And SilverZephyr, if you weren't so awesome I'd think YOU CRAZY for the whole Edgey/Fran thing. But you are so it's cool.
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    You know, I don't like the common belief that all lesbians hate men. I mean, even though she wasn't warm to Phoenix, and rude sometimes, she trusted him too.

    • When Phoenix presented her suicide case to her, she didn't get mad afterwards. And she took his word that he wouldn't show it.
    • After Phoenix found out the truth about his client, chased after the kidnapper, and found the touching note from Maya, he went back to Adrian in the detention center, and she was concerned how awful he looked. If she really didn't like Phoenix, she wouldn't be concerned.
    • After she insults Phoenix at the end of that conversation, he is polite back to her. She's startled, then is polite rather than rude back.
    • The most crucial moment is when the verdict is about to be handed to her after the judge sums up her 'guilt'. And who does she call out to? Phoenix. Why him? Mia is standing near him, and Edgeworth doesn't want her guilty.

    Dont' get me wrong, I don't think there's a romantic connection, just a connection. And that is that Adrian doesn't trust most men, she trusted Franziska and Celeste more than anything else. But she doesn't hate all men, because when things looked the absolute worst for her, she called to Phoenix for help. And of course, our hero did.

    Cheers! Beer Now if you'll excuse me, I have to go fix myself, Archon broke me.
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    No. All lesbians HATE men.

    Kay?

    :P

    No, you're right. But the two men who were in her life and most important in it...? She despised with her whole being. That's not hating men, though, that's hating a pair of vicious assholes :P
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    Sure, not the majority of girls are clingy. But goodness have I known a number in my life, and that's what I'm getting at here. Even though it's not the best trait, it's hard to deny that it still does show up in a girl from time to time.

    I get what you mean, but that's only a very small minority and it's the same with guys. The majority of girls are good at coping alone and they don't cling. I know I don't cling much at all, I hate holding hands and I hate hugging most people. I do need to be with others though......What does it mean to be clingy?
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    To have ovaries and boobs.

    duh.
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    CantFaketheFunk wrote:
    To have ovaries and boobs.

    duh.


    *gasp*

    But what if you're a hyena!?
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    Then you're crude and unspeakably plain.

    But maybe... you've a glimmer of potential, when allied... to my vision and brain.
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    CantFaketheFunk wrote:
    Then you're crude and unspeakably plain.

    But maybe... you've a glimmer of potential, when allied... to my vision and brain.


    Don't look at me, I'm no hyena... but I think I know who is...

    Moe Laugh Moe Laugh Moe Laugh Moe Laugh
    Moe Laugh Moe Laugh Moe Laugh Moe Laugh
    Moe Laugh Moe Laugh Moe Laugh Moe Laugh

    Hehe. >:)
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    CantFaketheFunk wrote:
    No. All lesbians HATE men.

    Kay?

    :P

    No, you're right. But the two men who were in her life and most important in it...? She despised with her whole being. That's not hating men, though, that's hating a pair of vicious assholes :P



    Of course, I eat men for breakfast on a regular basis. Sal
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    Ack

    (must.. avoid... innuendo about... women)
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    (must.. avoid... innuendo about... women)

    Please go on? >;)
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    CantFaketheFunk wrote:
    Ack

    (must.. avoid... innuendo about... women)


    Oh do indulge, it'll be true I promise. >;]


    Or I'll follow it up with "And women for dessert..." >_>
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    Eating women? Not in the actually consuming way, but in the way that presumably goes on in Franziska/Adrian's bedroom when they're in the mood to be frisky?


    *flee!*
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    I'm still confused as to how exactly a sociopathic teenager like Fran is supposed to have a healthy relationship with a psychologically ill older woman?

    Well, qualms aside, I'm definitely interested in some gratuitous lesbian scenes with these two. Where's my pencil?
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    CantFaketheFunk wrote:
    Eating women? Not in the actually consuming way, but in the way that presumably goes on in Franziska/Adrian's bedroom when they're in the mood to be frisky?


    *flee!*


    Oh I know darling. <3 I was trying to use all kinds of innuendo and apparently failing miserably. XD! (Well the fella part was cannibalism but obviously that was a joke >_>)
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    MoronSonOfBoron wrote:
    I'm still confused as to how exactly a sociopathic teenager like Fran is supposed to have a healthy relationship with a psychologically ill older woman?

    Well, qualms aside, I'm definitely interested in some gratuitous lesbian scenes with these two. Where's my pencil?


    I wrote a post about this in favorite PW pairings. Go! read!

    and calamity, I'm notoriously dense. So there :P
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    But if you really want an answer here, the short of it is:

    I don't believe Fran's a "sociopath," she's... crippled emotionally due to her upbringing. From Adrian, she gets a source of genuine, true affection and love--which is something she really doesn't have in her life, because what she gets from Miles (though he certainly does love her as a sister) is... different and Von Karmesque. Adrian is good for Fran. And she's probably one of the few people patient enough to put up with Fran, especially early on.
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    ^_^ *Sits and smiles*
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