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Re: Adrian Andrews: Lesbian or LESBIAN?Topic%20Title
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I feel weird whenever I look at this kinda thing it's mostly about fanboys but I'm a girl and I support :franny: / :adrian: huh... <<;


Dude, I know a ton of women who support Franziska/Adrian. Straight women included.

Adrian? Lesbian. Adorable one, at that. Franziska? Little or no evidence either way, but she'd make a hot lesbian. I don't know if she's emotionally-mature enough given her stunted growth to know what she is without some exploration.
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Trench Kamen wrote:
EpicMushroom wrote:
I feel weird whenever I look at this kinda thing it's mostly about fanboys but I'm a girl and I support :franny: / :adrian: huh... <<;


Dude, I know a ton of women who support Franziska/Adrian. Straight women included.


Ok thanks ^-^ It's just every one of my friends hate's yuri and I've never really seen many girls who like this kinda thing ._.

I could see Franziska as maybe bisexual or at least confused about her sexual orientation, I mean she never really ever had a chance at romance with a man or woman and the only man she's ever gotten close with (besides her father) was Edgeworth but it was much more of a sibling kind of thing.
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EpicMushroom wrote:
It's just every one of my friends hate's yuri and I've never really seen many girls who like this kinda thing ._.

Of course! A mushroom HAS to post in a LESBIAN thread! :nick:
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I could see Franziska as maybe bisexual or at least confused about her sexual orientation

Lack of interaction = asexual.
Needs more girl. :yuusaku:
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Edgeworth

It's an odd thought but I would expect Franny to immediately direct her attention to this guy in hopes of her being interested in ANY men at all. This is not the case. :-P
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Of course! A mushroom HAS to post in a LESBIAN thread!
Wait did I do something wrong? :eh?: I am confused.

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Lack of interaction = asexual.
Needs more girl.

Yeah but
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What Adrian said at the end of T&T about Franziska coming over to teach her how to use the whip at least tells us they're seeing each other so it's not like Franziska doesn't have any girl.
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EpicMushroom wrote:
did I do something wrong?

No. Nothing wrong at all.
GIGGITY! :keiko:

Sorry that one slipped. :lana:
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She gonn' git caught! :keiko:
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EpicMushroom wrote:
Trench Kamen wrote:
EpicMushroom wrote:
I feel weird whenever I look at this kinda thing it's mostly about fanboys but I'm a girl and I support :franny: / :adrian: huh... <<;


Dude, I know a ton of women who support Franziska/Adrian. Straight women included.


Ok thanks ^-^ It's just every one of my friends hate's yuri and I've never really seen many girls who like this kinda thing ._.


Well, it depends on what they think of when the term "yuri" comes up. Many--and rightfully-so, given the sorts of pictures you get during image searches--associate it with a sort of degrading hentai genre for women with EE-cup boobs to do the nasty with each other and somehow seem as though they're doing it FOR a male audience who has no regard for their personalities, or, indeed, WHO they are beyond 'female'. You know EXACTLY what I'm talking about, if you've seen it. That's just bad porn, in my opinion, poor writing, and poor characterization. Stupid. No depth, no sensuality.

If you could find examples of yuri in which the women are portrayed in-character, respected, and are in lesbian relationships with depth and dynamic, it may be worth trying to show your friends the potential in a very diverse genre.

To be honest, I don't like parsing relationships into three categories based on the gender of the parties, but it's the common classification system. In short, if you have a pairing you like, you search by either yaoi, yuri, or het in the series you're looking for, and find your pairing of choice that way. But people structure their thoughts around arbitrary structures. 'Yaoi' and 'yuri' become entities with too much inherent stigma attached.

...back on topic, yeah. A pairing is a pairing is a pairing. The dynamic between two people goes far beyond just gender, though most people do only have that sexual edge with one gender or the other. I dislike seeing people refuse to accept a pairing as possible (not canon, but POSSIBLE or WORKABLE) just because it's yaoi/yuri/het what-have-you. So much potential and depth is lost in that.

I know, I know. tl;dr.
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Trench Kamen wrote:
I dislike seeing people refuse to accept a pairing as possible (not canon, but POSSIBLE or WORKABLE) just because it's yaoi/yuri/het what-have-you. So much potential and depth is lost in that.

I know something else you'll dislike. o_O


..................


:hotti: / :gant: and :grossburg: / :karma:

The thought of this is enough to make any normal person claw their eyes out.
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Trench Kamen wrote:

Well, it depends on what they think of when the term "yuri" comes up. Many--and rightfully-so, given the sorts of pictures you get during image searches--associate it with a sort of degrading hentai genre for women with EE-cup boobs to do the nasty with each other and somehow seem as though they're doing it FOR a male audience who has no regard for their personalities, or, indeed, WHO they are beyond 'female'. You know EXACTLY what I'm talking about, if you've seen it. That's just bad porn, in my opinion, poor writing, and poor characterization. Stupid. No depth, no sensuality.

If you could find examples of yuri in which the women are portrayed in-character, respected, and are in lesbian relationships with depth and dynamic, it may be worth trying to show your friends the potential in a very diverse genre.

To be honest, I don't like parsing relationships into three categories based on the gender of the parties, but it's the common classification system. In short, if you have a pairing you like, you search by either yaoi, yuri, or het in the series you're looking for, and find your pairing of choice that way. But people structure their thoughts around arbitrary structures. 'Yaoi' and 'yuri' become entities with too much inherent stigma attached.

...back on topic, yeah. A pairing is a pairing is a pairing. The dynamic between two people goes far beyond just gender, though most people do only have that sexual edge with one gender or the other. I dislike seeing people refuse to accept a pairing as possible (not canon, but POSSIBLE or WORKABLE) just because it's yaoi/yuri/het what-have-you. So much potential and depth is lost in that.

I know, I know. tl;dr.


Actually I do know exactly what you're talking about and you are absolutly right o.o; I do admit I have seen one of two FranziexAdrian pictures who fit that bill but over all the fanart and fanfics are just amazingly well done with a lot of character development and depth. I also agree with the dislike in seeing people do that because I've seen plenty of people doing it and thier arguement? "It's just wrong." Seriously if you're going to even try to argue against yaoi yuri or het (even though I haven't really seen that arguement with het) At least try to bring up some points about how they wouldn't have romantic feelings towards each other, NOT your moral or religious beliefs.
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I so have to agree! I like pairing because the people I pair work well together in my mind... Not because it is yaoi/yuri/het. I could care less.
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DaemonForce wrote:
Trench Kamen wrote:
I dislike seeing people refuse to accept a pairing as possible (not canon, but POSSIBLE or WORKABLE) just because it's yaoi/yuri/het what-have-you. So much potential and depth is lost in that.

I know something else you'll dislike. o_O


..................


:hotti: / :gant: and :grossburg: / :karma:

The thought of this is enough to make any normal person claw their eyes out.


I'm immune to squik. Really. Though some of Grossburg's comments during Mia's trial in T&T made me gape at the DS.

Dr. Hotti/Hickfield/whatever is awesome. I would give him a high five.
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*Takes Adrian Andrews and leaves thread.* :3
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Dr. Hotti/Hickfield/whatever is awesome. I would give him a high five.

GG.

Now let me expand on that.
:hotti: & :grossburg: as the dominant ones.

Ick. :lana:
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*Takes Adrian Andrews and leaves thread.* :3

Now that's not nice. :garyuu:
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SO I was stuck all day inside the changing room with nothing but a glued on bra.

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*Takes Adrian Andrews and leaves thread.* :3

Now that's not nice. :garyuu:[/quote]
Someone was gonna take her sooner o later, don't ya agree. :will:
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I was under the impression she was already taken.
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She escaped... *Sweats.* Now go get a braclet to find my lies. :D
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WHY HAVE I NOT NOTICED THIS THREAD, EVER?

adriXfranny ftw
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Oh, and seeing how this hasn't been brought up yet, shoujo-ai is a non-existent term and you're supposed to use yuri to describe the entire genre (though this is an extreme disservice, as it doesn't keep the squick from backflowing into my sanctuaries).

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Mmm, Adrian lesbianism
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You guys should totally check out my FANFIC.

Is about Phoenix and Edgey walking in on AdrianXFranziska.

Its called "What a Pleasant Surprise..."

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I directly opposed Adrian/Franziska for a long time. I actually had a bit of an argument with CFTF* on GameFAQs on it. but then I read FtF here and I ended up supporting the idea... without realizing the same dude (CantFakeTheFunk) wrote it!

And I was all like "No way, dude, you got me!" I swear man, you knew I would end up with egg on my face sooner or later, didn't you?

Franziska /Adrian/Lana For life!






*I swear, for the longest time, your name was "Can'tCakeTheFunk". Was that a typo? I mean, C and F are only one key up from each other...
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how did this pairing come to be?
when did franziska and adrian get associated with each other?
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how did this pairing come to be?
when did franziska and adrian get associated with each other?


It came from a part in the game that showed how they first met.

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I think it was the part where you went into Enguarde's hotel room and :franny: was like "Adrian, remember what we discussed!" and :adrian: was like "oh sure" while her inner monologue was all "OMGLOL SHE BANGS SHE BANGS lol" and then they snuck off to Juan's room and scissored all night long while Oldbag took pics with Lotta's camera.

Actually, my gaydar's pretty bad. I always figured if :adrian: was with any chick, it would have been Celeste. I don't really see :franny: / :adrian: outside of friendship, though there was a moment in the Trials & Tribulations ending I almost thought :nick-sweat: / :ka-whip: / :adrian: .
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I like the idea of Adrian and Franzypan so I made a model of them getting close
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I'm currently making clay models of the characters, check out my fanart thread which i would link here if i knew how........oh and I will take requests or ideas at least
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I like the idea of Adrian and Franzypan so I made a model of them getting close
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Very Impressive, Very Impressive Indeed. :hotti:

Actually, I really like how you did two different verison of Fradrian and how well they both really look. :larry2:
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I directly opposed Adrian/Franziska for a long time. I actually had a bit of an argument with CFTF* on GameFAQs on it. but then I read FtF here and I ended up supporting the idea... without realizing the same dude (CantFakeTheFunk) wrote it!

And I was all like "No way, dude, you got me!" I swear man, you knew I would end up with egg on my face sooner or later, didn't you?

Franziska /Adrian/Lana For life!






*I swear, for the longest time, your name was "Can'tCakeTheFunk". Was that a typo? I mean, C and F are only one key up from each other...


Haha. Well, no hard feelings.

And no, CantFaketheFunk has always been it.

ALSO, THOSE SCULPTURES ARE ADORABLE.

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I guess I just have terrible eyesight then... Also, *uses a Phoenix Down on Topic*
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Just because this thread needs a great revival, I'm going to ask something a little different...

Convince me that Franziska von Karma is lesbian.




(PS: I support the Fran/Adrian pairing, and I usually don't support non-canon pairings. I just want to get a discussion going.)
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margo wrote:
I like the idea of Adrian and Franzypan so I made a model of them getting close
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That kicks the ass of anything I've ever tried to make with clay, ever. Those are adorable.

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Convince me that Franziska von Karma is lesbian.


My bedroom, last night. :ka-whip:
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margo wrote:
I like the idea of Adrian and Franzypan so I made a model of them getting close
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That kicks the ass of anything I've ever tried to make with clay, ever. Those are adorable.

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Convince me that Franziska von Karma is lesbian.


My bedroom, last night. :ka-whip:


Pics or it didn't happen. :hotti:
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Pics or it didn't happen. :hotti:


Agreed.
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One way to prove it is that Franziska may be is that she doesn't seem too in to guys. In fact, i dun think she is in to guys at all. She spent most of her life controlling them to me.

If there is a pic that would be nice :phoenix:
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I also demand these pictures.
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...And The Metal makes five.
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Fine.

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Told you it happened.
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You all said you wanted pictures. :hotti:

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