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was holding on to 
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remember at the end of justice for all was holding on to 's card that drew 's face on?
did she ever give it back in trial and tribulations? or will she in 2 or 's game?
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They never said anything about whether she did or didn't. So maybe yes, maybe no.
This.
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In GS 3, she meet Phoenix but don't give him the card.
She forgot or lost the card.
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Pigeon_Maiden wrote:
Uh actually, yes, she did give him the card.
The key? You have to watch the credits all the way! :D (the picture was quite humorous and cute XDDD )
The key? You have to watch the credits all the way! :D (the picture was quite humorous and cute XDDD )
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(Of course, there is the possibility that she might've misplaced that card...a slim possibility.)
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Then again this is Capcom we're talking about. These people are masters of plotholes since the late nineties, Resi Evil is full of so many plot holes like this that its consistency is on par with swiss cheese, Ace attorney seems to suffer from this unfortunate malady now and again.
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My imagination says she framed it in Von Karma Mansion.
I like this idea very muchly.
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I think Capcom conveniently "forgot" it when they tried to push Iris on us.
And just because she didn't give it back doesn't mean she lost it. Maybe it's in the von Karma trophy room. Where Manfred, Edgeworth and Franziska store the memorabilia of their past cases.
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BlackJack wrote:
I think Capcom conveniently "forgot" it when they tried to push Iris on us.
Forgot? Do you not think that it's more likely to be a case of trying to appease the huge shipping base this community has?
Think about it that card can act as proof for FranxNick or MayaxNick.
We just don't know and by GS4's conclusion we still don't have a clue either thanks to Capcom keeping it wide open, all that we do know is that Maya is in contact with Nick and thats it. Iris seems to have dropped off the map (funny how that happens despite the setup we get towards the end of 3-5.) Honestly, I think Capcom likes swiss cheese in its writing department, either that or the script is written by hens.
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)I also don't see why there's so much discussion on something that's mentioned once in GS2 and not at all ever in any shape or form whatsoever in GS3 (and 4)
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Mr Gutsy wrote:
BlackJack wrote:
I think Capcom conveniently "forgot" it when they tried to push Iris on us.
Forgot? Do you not think that it's more likely to be a case of trying to appease the huge shipping base this community has?
Think about it that card can act as proof for FranxNick or MayaxNick.
That was my point.
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I also don't see why there's so much discussion on something that's mentioned once in GS2 and not at all ever in any shape or form whatsoever in GS3 (and 4)
You're right. And I guess we shouldn't talk about Manfred von Karma, either.
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Mr Gutsy wrote:
BlackJack wrote:
I think Capcom conveniently "forgot" it when they tried to push Iris on us.
Forgot? Do you not think that it's more likely to be a case of trying to appease the huge shipping base this community has?
Think about it that card can act as proof for FranxNick or MayaxNick.
We just don't know and by GS4's conclusion we still don't have a clue either thanks to Capcom keeping it wide open, all that we do know is that Maya is in contact with Nick and thats it. Iris seems to have dropped off the map (funny how that happens despite the setup we get towards the end of 3-5.) Honestly, I think Capcom likes swiss cheese in its writing department, either that or the script is written by hens.
It is a very powerful card. The legendary 4th piece of evidence.. The evidence that can proof that there is no darn phoenix X Edgeworth. Honesty for those of you who played the games you should know his sexual preference. GWAD. He even makes comments/Thoughts about women in his mind.
He even said maya looks good in the Tres bein uniform or something like that.
Its obvious that maya was thinking of nick the entire time while kidnapped.
Its not obvious and unknown if frans kept the card or not.
Or hell her reason for even keeping the damn thing.
Ugh plotholes and unanswered questions.
Heh.
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The fun of discussion forums is to pick over the small details and try to reason them out, although the only real answer we can give here is that Capcom's writers can't maintain cannon very well.
You can apply that to Phoenix himself not being recognised by the judge in the very first case despite being on trial in 3-1 in his court room, it shows that the writers of the series like cobbling things together as they go along and don't worry about the long term problems or impacts, which to be honest only really gets to the diehard fans like us who sit and wonder then go hey wait a moment! Maybe in the next installment of GS we'll get our answer.
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Mr.wise wrote:
Mr Gutsy wrote:
BlackJack wrote:
I think Capcom conveniently "forgot" it when they tried to push Iris on us.
Forgot? Do you not think that it's more likely to be a case of trying to appease the huge shipping base this community has?
Think about it that card can act as proof for FranxNick or MayaxNick.
We just don't know and by GS4's conclusion we still don't have a clue either thanks to Capcom keeping it wide open, all that we do know is that Maya is in contact with Nick and thats it. Iris seems to have dropped off the map (funny how that happens despite the setup we get towards the end of 3-5.) Honestly, I think Capcom likes swiss cheese in its writing department, either that or the script is written by hens.
It is a very powerful card. The legendary 4th piece of evidence.. The evidence that can proof that there is no darn phoenix X Edgeworth. Honesty for those of you who played the games you should know his sexual preference. GWAD. He even makes comments/Thoughts about women in his mind.
He even said maya looks good in the Tres bein uniform or something like that.
Its obvious that maya was thinking of nick the entire time while kidnapped.
Its not obvious and unknown if frans kept the card or not.
Or hell her reason for even keeping the damn thing.
Ugh plotholes and unanswered questions.
Have you ever heard the term "bisexual"?
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Mr Gutsy wrote:
Sorry BlackJack, I fail at comprehension 101 once again!
The fun of discussion forums is to pick over the small details and try to reason them out, although the only real answer we can give here is that Capcom's writers can't maintain cannon very well.
You can apply that to Phoenix himself not being recognised by the judge in the very first case despite being on trial in 3-1 in his court room, it shows that the writers of the series like cobbling things together as they go along and don't worry about the long term problems or impacts, which to be honest only really gets to the diehard fans like us who sit and wonder then go hey wait a moment! Maybe in the next installment of GS we'll get out answer.
The fun of discussion forums is to pick over the small details and try to reason them out, although the only real answer we can give here is that Capcom's writers can't maintain cannon very well.
You can apply that to Phoenix himself not being recognised by the judge in the very first case despite being on trial in 3-1 in his court room, it shows that the writers of the series like cobbling things together as they go along and don't worry about the long term problems or impacts, which to be honest only really gets to the diehard fans like us who sit and wonder then go hey wait a moment! Maybe in the next installment of GS we'll get out answer.
I think its a little too late for that?
Considering the whole 7 years thing.
"Oh hi i would just like to show you mad old evidence. Here" >_>
That card is still important. Not to mention the fact that frans came back. Wait maybe capcom didnt screw up the card thing. She said she would give it to him when she faces him in court.
Also when she came back she said "I was hoping on facing Phenoix wright but your just as good"
So she probably intended on giving it to him.. But it never reached him? Or it did but was never pointed out. Done ranting. Just want to get this card bisness out the way.
Yes? But that would just be plain weird. Cant accept that. And that was a lil off topic there.
Heh.
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You said that Phoenix's comments about Maya and some other girls being cute rules means he's attracted to women, and not men. But if he's bisexual, then he can make all those comments abot the girls he wants, and be in love with...
Edgey-poo
btw, Franzy says nothing about giving Nick the card next time they meet in court. She just says the next time they meet. Period.
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Bad Player wrote:
Mr.wise wrote:
Mr Gutsy wrote:
Forgot? Do you not think that it's more likely to be a case of trying to appease the huge shipping base this community has?
Think about it that card can act as proof for FranxNick or MayaxNick.
We just don't know and by GS4's conclusion we still don't have a clue either thanks to Capcom keeping it wide open, all that we do know is that Maya is in contact with Nick and thats it. Iris seems to have dropped off the map (funny how that happens despite the setup we get towards the end of 3-5.) Honestly, I think Capcom likes swiss cheese in its writing department, either that or the script is written by hens.
It is a very powerful card. The legendary 4th piece of evidence.. The evidence that can proof that there is no darn phoenix X Edgeworth. Honesty for those of you who played the games you should know his sexual preference. GWAD. He even makes comments/Thoughts about women in his mind.
He even said maya looks good in the Tres bein uniform or something like that.
Its obvious that maya was thinking of nick the entire time while kidnapped.
Its not obvious and unknown if frans kept the card or not.
Or hell her reason for even keeping the damn thing.
Ugh plotholes and unanswered questions.
Have you ever heard the term "bisexual"?
Yes. But you'd think he would have said/thought something along the lines of "Edgeworth sure looks good today." Not necessarily word-for-word like that but no, I don't think Phoenix has ever exhibited any form of homosexuality or even bisexuality. I don't mind yaoi, but when fans start treating pairings that don't make sense canon-wise as canon is where I draw the line.
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Bad Player wrote:
Bisexual = being sexually attracted to men and women.
You said that Phoenix's comments about Maya and some other girls being cute rules means he's attracted to women, and not men. But if he's bisexual, then he can make all those comments abot the girls he wants, and be in love with...
Edgey-poo
btw, Franzy says nothing about giving Nick the card next time they meet in court. She just says the next time they meet. Period.
You said that Phoenix's comments about Maya and some other girls being cute rules means he's attracted to women, and not men. But if he's bisexual, then he can make all those comments abot the girls he wants, and be in love with...
Edgey-poo
btw, Franzy says nothing about giving Nick the card next time they meet in court. She just says the next time they meet. Period.
Oh ja? Nyeh thats just a possiblity.
Gimme some proof eh! Otherwise my claim stands that phoenix is just straight!
Or was that just... an accusation of said persons sexual preference?Oh and you cant use his reasons for following him and becoming a defense attorney.
Phenoix was a lonely person obviously. He connects to people so easily it actually makes him weaker/stronger.
But anyway no stuff like his reason for becoming an attorney for he had a good one.
"Defend the people"
Now where's that proof? Heh good luck finding it.
Go on let him get that proof..
Lest we forget there was no physical contact with edgeworth I.E a hug
Perhaps a friendly handshake but nothing more.
Now maya on the other hand... *cough* *cough*
Good lucks.
Oh yes and in the court record my proof stands even more.
"Edgeworth- My friend since childhood"
Phenoix X edgeworth is nothing more then a fan fic and the evidence from the games prove this.
Heh.
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Having Phoenix being attracted to Maya/Franzy/whoever doesn't make him heterosexual; it means he's either bisexual or heterosexual. There's nothing canon that shows anything pointing to one or the other...
You just can't use "He called Maya cute" as an argument that he's straight, since he could be bi.
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Bad Player wrote:
I don't need any more proof.
Having Phoenix being attracted to Maya/Franzy/whoever doesn't make him heterosexual; it means he's either bisexual or heterosexual. There's nothing canon that shows anything pointing to one or the other...
You just can't use "He called Maya cute" as an argument that he's straight, since he could be bi.
Having Phoenix being attracted to Maya/Franzy/whoever doesn't make him heterosexual; it means he's either bisexual or heterosexual. There's nothing canon that shows anything pointing to one or the other...
You just can't use "He called Maya cute" as an argument that he's straight, since he could be bi.
reread my edit.
Also you cant use the close friendship phoenix had with the guy as bisexuality.
He never called edgeworth cute. He highly respected him.
Let us not forget his reactions to april may and adrian andrews..
Ill get to this womans bottom! err i mean.. You know what i mean!!
I owe her a great deal of thanks. /Gets slapped by maya
Case closed.
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Nothing more nothing less.
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Bad Player wrote:
I don't need any more proof.
Having Phoenix being attracted to Maya/Franzy/whoever doesn't make him heterosexual; it means he's either bisexual or heterosexual. There's nothing canon that shows anything pointing to one or the other...
You just can't use "He called Maya cute" as an argument that he's straight, since he could be bi.
Having Phoenix being attracted to Maya/Franzy/whoever doesn't make him heterosexual; it means he's either bisexual or heterosexual. There's nothing canon that shows anything pointing to one or the other...
You just can't use "He called Maya cute" as an argument that he's straight, since he could be bi.
Since apparently I was ignored, I'll say it again.
If Phoenix was bi (which he could be, but I doubt it), you'd think that, in 4 games' time, he would have made at least 1 homosexual remark. But he didn't. Not even one. This leads me to believe that he is a hetero. If he is bi, then he leans close enough to hetero that PhoenixxEdgeworth would make little sense.
But since when has that stopped anyone.
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And don't forget in T&T, Phoenix and Edgeworth barely directly interact. They talk when Edgey loses Iris, in the garden, and before trial day 2... and that's it.
Of course, they did have a night together in Phoenix's hospital room to do whatever they want
(You know, when he gave Edgey the badge)
Also, considering he's always on a case when we see him, he might want to focus more on the case than on finding a boyfriend, girlfriend, or whatever.
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Bad Player wrote:
The only heterosexual ties to Phoenix at all are exclusively in T&T: He goes out with Dahlia, calls Maya cute in her uniform (apparently; I don't remember this line), and calls Franzy cute when she's mad (although he attributes this to the fever :P)
And don't forget in T&T, Phoenix and Edgeworth barely directly interact. They talk when Edgey loses Iris, in the garden, and before trial day 2... and that's it.
Of course, they did have a night together in Phoenix's hospital room to do whatever they want
(You know, when he gave Edgey the badge)
Also, considering he's always on a case when we see him, he might want to focus more on the case than on finding a boyfriend, girlfriend, or whatever.
And don't forget in T&T, Phoenix and Edgeworth barely directly interact. They talk when Edgey loses Iris, in the garden, and before trial day 2... and that's it.
Of course, they did have a night together in Phoenix's hospital room to do whatever they want
(You know, when he gave Edgey the badge)
Also, considering he's always on a case when we see him, he might want to focus more on the case than on finding a boyfriend, girlfriend, or whatever.
A valid argument (except the hospital part, that's just silly. Phoenix was sick.
). They barely see each other in T&T.I still argue that he at least would have thought something gay, though.
Funny how we've gone from discussing the Feenie de Killer card to arguing about Phoenix's sexuality.
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