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Via ほそぼそ:

http://www.capcom.co.jp/new-gyakuten/

The official DGS site teases two new DGS characters with... just their shadows: more news will follow next week ( as announced earlier)

Edit from Bolt: With this, we're calling pencils down on the Pick Your Prosecutor contest until we get more info. Thanks to all that entered! If these characters have nothing to do with the prosecution, we'll reopen then.
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It looks like Young Trucy and the Sherlock Holmes guy we were all speculating from the initial trailer. I can't wait for TGS now! (Pretty sure those 2 are related, and are not Japanese... There goes my pick your prosecutor entry :viola: )

EDIT: Here's the image from the site:
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Mijumaru wrote:
It looks like Young Trucy and the Sherlock Holmes guy we were all speculating from the initial trailer. I can't wait for TGS now! (Pretty sure those 2 are related, and are not Japanese... There goes my pick your prosecutor entry :viola: )

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:P Thought it was my pick your prosecutor entry?

I don't think the little one will turn out THAT Trucy-ish. Lot can be done with that silhouette.
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:P Thought it was my pick your prosecutor entry?

I don't think the little one will turn out THAT Trucy-ish. Lot can be done with that silhouette.

Mine was a Japanese Prosecutor obsessed with Western culture, not a foreigner, so I'm out :beef:
The hands on the hips reminds me of that Young Trucy pose:
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First thought: Iris Chateaubriand (Sakura Taisen) and Hakuba Saguru (Magic Kaito / Detective Conan). Second thought: Young Miss Holmes and her uncle Sherlock
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Can anyone confirm what it says in the banner about 2014? It looks like it is just talking about the TGS...
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It's going to be very amusing if the girl turns out to be the prosecutor.
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The girl could be the Prosecutor's bench assistant
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Ash wrote:
First thought: Iris Chateaubriand (Sakura Taisen) and Hakuba Saguru (Magic Kaito / Detective Conan). Second thought: Young Miss Holmes and her uncle Sherlock


That young Miss Holmes almost makes me wretch. "Let's add this to X and it'll be better!" isn't a formula I love, be it tiny magical girls of 10 who are inexplicably as intelligent as their legendary uncles or ponies...

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The girl could be the Prosecutor's bench assistant


You think the Prosecution will actually GET an assistant?
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Pierre wrote:
JesusMonroe wrote:
The girl could be the Prosecutor's bench assistant


You think the Prosecution will actually GET an assistant?

Sounds pretty unlikely to me. I think the little girl will probably be ally/relative of Ryuu's (or Susato's, if she's a relative). Maybe she'll be a Fey, though? Little Ami Fey, anybody?
Big dude behind her's gotta be the prosecutor though. Or the detective. Someone with the police, I think.
(Plot twist: the little girl is the prosecutor/detective and the big dude behind her is her assistant. He lifts her up so that she can see over the bench/witness stand.)
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Maybe it is Sherlock Holmes himself.....I wouldn't be in favour of that (because then Phoenix's ancestor wouldn't have any innocent clients to defend), but he is a public domain character and usually appears in stories that take place during that period of time.

I seriously hope the little girl is the sidekick and NOT the detective/prosecutor. AA "professionals" have been getting way too young for my tastes as it is.
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Pierre wrote:
You think the Prosecution will actually GET an assistant?

Maybe. In I-4, Von Karma was going to assist Edgeworth at the bench until the trial was cancelled, so it's not unheard of


On an unrelated note, I think it's about time for me to call it quits when it comes to DGS news
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Maybe it is Sherlock Holmes himself.....I wouldn't be in favour of that (because then Phoenix's ancestor wouldn't have any innocent clients to defend), but he is a public domain character and usually appears in stories that take place during that period of time.

I seriously hope the little girl is the sidekick and NOT the detective/prosecutor. AA "professionals" have been getting way too young for my tastes as it is.


I'd be surprised if they straight up took Sherlock Holmes himself out for this. Definitely going to be someone in his style however.

As for your concerns about age:
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Wow, this is getting really interesting. I myself think they are the prosecutor and his assistant.

Although for a second I had a thought that maybe they are some rival defense lawyers...
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Wow, this is getting really interesting. I myself think they are the prosecutor and his assistant.

Although for a second I had a thought that maybe they are some rival defense lawyers...


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The little girl is obviously the new detective.
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Pierre wrote:
I'd be surprised if they straight up took Sherlock Holmes himself out for this. Definitely going to be someone in his style however.

As for your concerns about age:
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Like I said, it's not something I would be in favour of. Not only because Holmes would pretty much make the protagonist redundant, but also because it would be kind of lazy. The AA developers are perfectly capable of making good original characters.

And yeah, I'm aware of that comic. :edgey: Not only is it hilarious, I pretty much agree with the author. I have no problem with having prodigy characters, but the number of them and their ages have become quite ridiculous. At this point, it would actually be kind of refreshing to see an attorney who started out mediocre and became good through years of experience.
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Phooey. There goes my idea of Susato being Susan Doyle.

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First thought: Iris Chateaubriand (Sakura Taisen) and Hakuba Saguru (Magic Kaito / Detective Conan). Second thought: Young Miss Holmes and her uncle Sherlock

It's almost a picture perfect resemblance here - given how little a silhouette can give away. I have a good feeling that the little girl is indeed this man's niece. And maybe her name will be May. /Japuns

Until we get further info, though, I'll stick to calling this Holmes-alike "Arty"... or "Watson". Which would be more appropriate?
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Personally, I would love to see a prosecutor with an assistant in court, so I'm crossing my fingers that the picture is showing just that.
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You know, the more I look at the big dude behind the girl, the more I'm pretty sure that's his hair, not a deerstalker. So, I doubt he'll actually resemble Holmes much. (I'm still banking on Susato being a Holmes fan, though!!)
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The Twist: IT'S A SIAMESE TWIN.
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You know, the more I look at the big dude behind the girl, the more I'm pretty sure that's his hair, not a deerstalker. So, I doubt he'll actually resemble Holmes much. (I'm still banking on Susato being a Holmes fan, though!!)

Well, at the very least, we can be sure that he's also a fan of cravats. Because as we all know, a European gentleman of such a time era must wear a cravat.

...But the more I think about it, the more I'm inclined to say that he's either German or Austrian. It'd be the first time we've had a German prosecutor in the Japanese version.

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The Twist: IT'S A SIAMESE TWIN.

...The man or the girl?
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Like Furuhata Ninzaburou said so famously:

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Why assume it's a man and a girl? They could be female conjointed twins, one of which less developed. Or a male twin. Silhouettes can sometimes work deceiving.
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Hmph, in that case, why assume they're both alive? One could be a ventriloquist. It's the girl who may turn out to be a very short woman, obviously. It'd be like Ben and Trilo's manzai duet, but at the prosecution's bench instead.

...That came out on a whim, but what if that actually happens? I'm half-horrified, half-intrigued.
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Hmph, in that case, why assume they're both alive? One could be a ventriloquist. It's the girl who may turn out to be a very short woman, obviously. It'd be like Ben and Trilo's manzai duet, but at the prosecution's bench instead.

...That came out on a whim, but what if that actually happens? I'm half-horrified, half-intrigued.

I'm full horrified. 2-3 gave me the creeps a little with Ben and Trillo and that circus music :payne: . If that's the whole game I'd be hesitant :ron: . Although, I'd love to see a manzai performance in the game. Maybe as witnesses though?
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The shadows look like Pearl and Blackquill. And quite honestly, I think the small girl will be the actual prosecutor, but she has the bigger guy as a "stand in" or a guardian, since she's not of legal age to really do things.

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That would be an interesting dynamic, haven't seen that in this series yes.
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The shadows look like Pearl and Blackquill. And quite honestly, I think the small girl will be the actual prosecutor, but she has the bigger guy as a "stand in" or a guardian, since she's not of legal age to really do things.

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I wouldn't mind seeing this either. Maybe it's a final case plot twist? The little girl was actually the brains of the prosecution.
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