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 Post subject: Another Code R - Rips (Tons of Spoilers) !Dusk Photos Found!
PostPosted: Fri Apr 02, 2010 8:56 pm 
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I got frustrated that my iTunes library was missing the Trace Memory music that got remixed in Another Code R, seeing as that music didn't appear to exist online, I decided to try my hand at getting the music myself. I still haven't found the music, but I did find some interesting images. I'm surprised the amount of detail they put into the security images.
Spoiler: Lots of Images
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 Post subject: Re: Another Code R - Rips (3 megs + Tons of Semi-Spoilers)
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If I'm not mistaken, the Another Code tracks aren't actually remixed, they just sound different because the Wii is playing them (in fact, you can hear them fade/loop if I'm not mistaken, which suggests they literally just took the final tracks and did a straight conversion.) You can grab the DS tracks here, though I can't vouch for sound quality. Alternatively, you could try tracking down the 2SF files and converting them to MP3. :minuki:

Out of curiosity, I assume you shrunk those images? It'd be strange for a game running at 480p to use 240p images, even if they're just camera stills...

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 Post subject: Re: Another Code R - Rips (3 megs + Tons of Semi-Spoilers)
PostPosted: Fri Apr 02, 2010 11:24 pm 
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If I'm not mistaken, the Another Code tracks aren't actually remixed, they just sound different because the Wii is playing them (in fact, you can hear them fade/loop if I'm not mistaken, which suggests they literally just took the final tracks and did a straight conversion.) You can grab the DS tracks here, though I can't vouch for sound quality. Alternatively, you could try tracking down the 2SF files and converting them to MP3. :minuki:

Out of curiosity, I assume you shrunk those images? It'd be strange for a game running at 480p to use 240p images, even if they're just camera stills...


Haha, okay maybe remixed isn't the right word, but by and large the Wii version (with one or two exceptions) sounds better then the DS version. Which explains why I was after them in the first place. (Plus I'm kinda hoping that I'll find the Trace Memory title screen music hidden in the Wii version. That was my favorite track on the DS title and I really want to hear what it sounds like using the Wii instrument library)

And thanks for the TM DS soundtrack, technically I already have it. But I appreciate the gesture.

And on the record, nope, what you see is what's there. I didn't edit the images or nothing.

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 Post subject: Re: Another Code R - Rips (3 megs + Tons of Semi-Spoilers)
PostPosted: Sat Apr 03, 2010 7:27 am 
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Indeed, there's no real 'remix' of the DS soundtrack in Another Code: R, except... well, the music you hear in the Disc Channel is directly taken from the DS (I think! It's been a long since I've played this game.), but you've got a longer and better version in the game, called 'Unkept Promise'. Definitely one of my favorite music in this wonderful soundtrack! But now, I wonder whether the music of the Disc Channel isn't just the intro of 'Unkept Promise'...?
(I have to admit that 'Fragment of Memories', the one you hear during the 'recaps' is pretty nice too).

I've got the whole soundtrack if you want? Well,there's not the said tracks from the DS one, since they're exactly the same the guy who ripped the music didn't bother to rip them too... but you've got a bonus track (2 in fact, one is an alternate version of one 'song', the other is a real song that isn't in Ashley's MP3 player.)

And thanks for the rip! I just realised I had missed at least... 89% of all the security camera's pictures you can see in the game...

Edit: just found it!

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 Post subject: Re: Another Code R - Rips (3 megs + Tons of Semi-Spoilers)
PostPosted: Sat Apr 03, 2010 10:22 pm 
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Considering I had to play the game via GeckoOS, I never got to hear the Channel music; anyways maybe I'm stating what I was after wrong? Going by the track names "Ghost Memories" doesn't sound as full as "D's Theme"; at least that's how it sounds when comparing my computer to the Wii. Naturally I presume that the different speakers are part at fault for the difference in sound quality; but I'm interested in finding out if there really is a rendered difference between the two versions. If there is, then cool, if not, then at least I learned a bit mucking around in the file system.

Edit: Finally found all the files, there's some rather interesting naming.

anotherdemo51.brstm
ashley_theme01.brstm
bill_last.brstm
bill_theme.brstm
chaptar1.brstm
chaptar2-3.brstm
chaptar4.brstm
chaptar5-6.brstm
chaptar7.brstm
D_theme.brstm
ending.brstm
happy_birthday.brstm
opening.brstm
richard_theme.brstm
STRM_BGM_01.brstm
STRM_BGM_02.brstm
STRM_BGM_03.brstm
STRM_BGM_05.brstm
STRM_BGM_06.brstm
STRM_BGM_07.brstm
STRM_BGM_08.brstm
STRM_BGM_10.brstm
STRM_BGM_15.brstm
STRM_BGM_18.brstm
STRM_BGM_19.brstm
STRM_BGM_20.brstm
STRM_BGM_24.brstm
STRM_BGM_25.brstm
STRM_BGM_33.brstm
STRM_BGM_34.brstm
STRM_BGM_35.brstm
STRM_BGM_36.brstm
STRM_BGM_37.brstm
STRM_BGM_38.brstm
STRM_BGM_40.brstm
STRM_BGM_41.brstm
STRM_BGM_42.brstm
STRM_BGM_43.brstm
STRM_BGM_ANOTHER.brstm
STRM_BGM_BAND_2.brstm
STRM_BGM_BAND.brstm
STRM_BGM_BANNER_SOUND.brstm
STRM_BGM_CHARLOTTE_HOUSE.brstm
STRM_BGM_GUITAR_LESSON_NON_EFFECT.brstm
STRM_BGM_GUITAR_LESSON.brstm
STRM_BGM_HAMBURGER_SHOP.brstm
STRM_BGM_IDOU_01.brstm
STRM_BGM_KAIWA_01.brstm
STRM_BGM_KAIWA_02.brstm
STRM_BGM_LABORATORY.brstm
STRM_BGM_MINKA_AREA.brstm
STRM_BGM_MUSIC_BOX.brstm
STRM_BGM_MUSIC_PLAYER.brstm
STRM_BGM_OP_01.brstm
STRM_BGM_ROOM_AREA.brstm
STRM_BGM_TANSAKU_01.brstm
STRM_BGM_TANSAKU_02.brstm
STRM_BGM_TITLE.brstm
talk1.brstm
talk2.brstm
tumugi.brstm

Note that some tracks are missing in the numbering system....

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 Post subject: Re: Another Code R - Rips (3 megs + Tons of Semi-Spoilers)
PostPosted: Sun Apr 04, 2010 1:16 am 
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Okay, I've done a little bit of analysis. L~A, this aught to get your attention; It looks like there are at least 19 Background Music tracks that didn't make it into the final game. All the tracks that are in all caps are unique to Another Code: R, lowercase with casual names are from Trace Memory. It's curious that Ashley's theme has a 01 designation; looks like she may have more then one theme song?

Anyways, tracks with interesting names and their "Unofficial Soundtrack" Equivalents.

ashley_theme01 - Heartache
bill_last - Buried Truths
bill_theme - Family Reunion
chaptar1 - Serenity
chaptar2-3 - House of Edward
chaptar4 - Searching for Truth
chaptar5-6 - Researching Memories (Starts a little different then the DS version)
chaptar7 - Miracle of the Blue Moon
richard_theme - Sayoko's Wish O_o

I'll post more later.

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 Post subject: Re: Another Code R - Rips (3 megs + Tons of Semi-Spoilers)
PostPosted: Sun Apr 04, 2010 8:57 am 
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Considering I had to play the game via GeckoOS, I never got to hear the Channel music

Now I'm sure of it. The channel music is exactly the same as 'Another Code', from TM's soundtrack.

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It looks like there are at least 19 Background Music tracks that didn't make it into the final game.

Yeah, I was about to suggest that. That's the only logical explanation for the inconsistency in the naming of the files. I'd really love to listen to those 'hidden songs'... Funnily, in VALVe's games, lines of dialogue and other cut stuff sometimes finds its way into the finale game, though they're not used. I wish I could do the same with those 19 super-secret Background music.

Now, I'm really wondering why they decided to cut those songs... Since they had a number, that means they were in a game at one point, but then were cut... but why? Did they not fit? Or maybe... the reason why they re-used some tracks from the original TM at the end of the game was because they didn't have time to make new songs? (since generally, the music comes towards the end of the developemment process). Guess we'll have to call J to investigate this mystery ;)

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All the tracks that are in all caps are unique to Another Code: R

Yup, the number of tracks matches with the soundtrack I got. :) (Maybe I miss 1 track, I'm not sure, as I deleted one who couldn't really be called 'music' :p)

Anyway, I'm really looking forward to your new finds!

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 Post subject: Re: Another Code R - Rips (3 megs + Tons of Semi-Spoilers)
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Considering I had to play the game via GeckoOS, I never got to hear the Channel music

Now I'm sure of it. The channel music is exactly the same as 'Another Code', from TM's soundtrack.

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It looks like there are at least 19 Background Music tracks that didn't make it into the final game.

Yeah, I was about to suggest that. That's the only logical explanation for the inconsistency in the naming of the files. I'd really love to listen to those 'hidden songs'... Funnily, in VALVe's games, lines of dialogue and other cut stuff sometimes finds its way into the finale game, though they're not used. I wish I could do the same with those 19 super-secret Background music.

Now, I'm really wondering why they decided to cut those songs... Since they had a number, that means they were in a game at one point, but then were cut... but why? Did they not fit? Or maybe... the reason why they re-used some tracks from the original TM at the end of the game was because they didn't have time to make new songs? (since generally, the music comes towards the end of the developemment process). Guess we'll have to call J to investigate this mystery ;)

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All the tracks that are in all caps are unique to Another Code: R

Yup, the number of tracks matches with the soundtrack I got. :) (Maybe I miss 1 track, I'm not sure, as I deleted one who couldn't really be called 'music' :p)

Anyway, I'm really looking forward to your new finds!


Minor update, haven't played around with the music much, but I did find the localization scripts. Just read through MESS1.BMG, which basically covers the first chapter. The scripts are a little interesting. Character names are missing, but there's some gobbledegook that precedes the dialog, It's consistent between characters talking, so it's easy to assume it's a placeholder or pointer to the character's name or other data.

Here's a sample of what I've got to look at, here's Dan Maxwell and Ashley talking about the stolen bag.

{Ung, looks like the board doesn't like the strange text I tried to paste so it's deleted from my post}

As you can see, the script controls sound effects, background music, and appears to have some basic control over events. Sound effects appear to be all bundled in the following files

another_code_R_sound_data.rsam
another_code_R_sound_data.rsid

Currently I don't have any leads on how to open those files. But that'd be a cool thing to have if we could get in.

And boy Ashley has a lot to say about things, when it comes to dialog trees, dialog doesn't split where the differences occur. It occurs right when you've made a choice. So a line of dialog might go something like this...

Ashley: I miss, D;
Matt: Dee? Who's that?
Ashley: He's a good friend of mine.
Matt: Okay.
Ashley: But you're a good friend too Matt;
Matt: Aw shucks.

Ashley: I miss, D;
Matt: Dee? Who's that?
Ashley: He's dead.
Matt: Okay.
Ashley: But you're a good friend too Matt;
Matt: Aw shucks.

Totally fake example, but I think I got the gist of the inefficient dialog across.


Right now, I'm not sure if the script controls character motions or not. There's nothing explicitly obvious looking at the script, unless it's those lines with the lonely single characters. In that case, it's anyone's guess what those particular motions are.

There's also a debug folder in the root. The Functions themselves are written in English, but they're all heavily commented with '//'s after that it's really unreadable on my side. Random characters and junk. But it's really orderly random characters; I'm guessing maybe my computer isn't well equipped to read Japanese txt files?

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 Post subject: Re: Another Code R - Rips (3 megs + Tons of Semi-Spoilers)
PostPosted: Mon Apr 05, 2010 9:33 am 
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Sounds interesting!

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Here's a sample of what I've got to look at, here's Dan Maxwell and Ashley talking about the stolen bag.
{Ung, looks like the board doesn't like the strange text I tried to paste so it's deleted from my post}


Maybe you could take a picture of the text? Or perhaps the using the
Code:
code
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Oh, and if you found the localization script... does that mean you found the French text too? (just curious, I'd like to take a peek at the translation, since I've only played this game in English).

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another_code_R_sound_data.rsam
another_code_R_sound_data.rsid

Currently I don't have any leads on how to open those files. But that'd be a cool thing to have if we could get in.


I'm pretty sure you can find some tools on the internet... from the people who already hacked lots of games of course, not me then. (xD)

I think I understand the 'dialogue tree system', but is it possible for you to post a real example to see how it works?
Too bad the script doesn't seem to be readable... I'd really like to see all the possible lines of dialogue of the game. Must be looooooooooooooooooots of lines I've missed... since I only had the time to play the game 1.15 times this summer, that's no wonder. I'm really looking forward to June so I can play this game again...

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Right now, I'm not sure if the script controls character motions or not. There's nothing explicitly obvious looking at the script, unless it's those lines with the lonely single characters. In that case, it's anyone's guess what those particular motions are.


I'm pretty sure the motions are controlled in the script, since they're tightly tied with the text ingame. Could you give an example of a normal line + one with the "lonely single characters"?


By the way, what are those pictures supposed to be?:

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To Train + Richard? (that what the Japanese reads, apparently)
I can't read the kanjis in the others pictures like this one...

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And totally unrelated, but when I click on the title of the topic when editing a message, I get this. There's not the 'whata' in the URl...

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Sounds interesting!

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Here's a sample of what I've got to look at, here's Dan Maxwell and Ashley talking about the stolen bag.
{Ung, looks like the board doesn't like the strange text I tried to paste so it's deleted from my post}


Maybe you could take a picture of the text? Or perhaps the using the
Code:
code
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Oh, and if you found the localization script... does that mean you found the French text too? (just curious, I'd like to take a peek at the translation, since I've only played this game in English).


Yeah. I actually tried using the code tag, my post gets truncated after the first code tag. So I just deleted everything I was going to quote.

Anyways, the included languages are Dutch, English, French, German, Italian and Spanish. English and Dutch are the interesting languages. English is missing the MAP directory that's in all the other localizations, and Dutch only has two files. As opposed to the 363 files in the French folder, and 346 in the English. I'm guessing that English is the default language and perhaps the Dutch localization got terminated early on?

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another_code_R_sound_data.rsam
another_code_R_sound_data.rsid

Currently I don't have any leads on how to open those files. But that'd be a cool thing to have if we could get in.


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I'm pretty sure you can find some tools on the internet... from the people who already hacked lots of games of course, not me then. (xD)


Haha, I'll see what I can do. Although it appears that unless the game is Smash Bros Brawl, the hacking scene is really crude. But I'll keep at it

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I think I understand the 'dialogue tree system', but is it possible for you to post a real example to see how it works?
Too bad the script doesn't seem to be readable... I'd really like to see all the possible lines of dialogue of the game. Must be looooooooooooooooooots of lines I've missed... since I only had the time to play the game 1.15 times this summer, that's no wonder. I'm really looking forward to June so I can play this game again...


Mm... I'd say that playing the game is more fun then reading the raw dialog; you actually know know who's talking as opposed to making an educated guess based upon your play through.

Anyways, here's the French and English localization files, and lets bypass the whole quote/code problem.

http://hobohodo.court-records.net/rips/ ... RA-ENG.zip

Most files, even the .dat ones, can be opened in a text editor. Some like BRFNT (Font), and ARC cannot.

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By the way, what are those pictures supposed to be?:

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To Train + Richard? (that what the Japanese reads, apparently)
I can't read the kanjis in the others pictures like this one...


*Shrug* you've got me. Aside from the image name "PHOTO-S-ID-202.jpg" I've got no context or seen them before. And even then, the file name isn't particularly helpful;

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And totally unrelated, but when I click on the title of the topic when editing a message, I get this. There's not the 'whata' in the URl...


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 Post subject: Re: Another Code R - Rips (3 megs + Tons of Semi-Spoilers)
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I now have the ability to look at textures, here's what I found interesting from the ITEM folder.
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EDIT: Okay, I think I'm done looking at object textures.

First, it looks like a Trace Memory Ashley, and someone else, either Rex or Richard is my guess but, I'm unsure
Spoiler: OLD
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And some more item textures, some repeat what we've seen before, others not.
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Looking at the various versions of Matt's Family Photo. I understand "Lake" as an anagram, but "Cake"?

Edit 2: Sound effects get! Anyone interested? Sound effects aren't near as catchy as music, what with most of the sound effects being between 3 and 0 seconds long. Listening through the sound effects I found personally interesting were the sound effect from Trace Memory when Ashley eats a candy; Kyle Hyde's pencil sound effect, and a few jingles. Oh, and of course the dialog blip.

Spoiler: Sound Effect names
WSD_DUMMY.rwav.wav
WSD_ME_DOKIRI.rwav.wav
WSD_ME_FLASH_BACK_01.rwav.wav
WSD_ME_FLASH_BACK_02.rwav.wav
WSD_ME_FLASH_BACK_03.rwav.wav
WSD_ME_FUANNI_OMOU.rwav.wav
WSD_ME_GIMON.rwav.wav
WSD_ME_GUM_EAT.rwav.wav
WSD_ME_JYUUDAINAKOTO_WAKARU_1.rwav.wav
WSD_ME_JYUUDAINAKOTO_WAKARU_2.rwav.wav
WSD_ME_JYUUDAINAKOTO_WAKARU_3.rwav.wav
WSD_ME_JYUUDAINAKOTO_WAKARU_4.rwav.wav
WSD_ME_JYUUDAINAKOTO_WAKARU_5.rwav.wav
WSD_ME_NAZOTOKI_FAIL_2.rwav.wav
WSD_ME_NAZOTOKI_FAIL_3.rwav.wav
WSD_ME_NAZOTOKI_FAIL.rwav.wav
WSD_ME_NAZOTOKI_IN.rwav.wav
WSD_ME_NAZOTOKI_SUCCESS.rwav.wav
WSD_ME_NPC_DOKIRI_1.rwav.wav
WSD_ME_NPC_DOKIRI_2.rwav.wav
WSD_ME_NPC_KOEKAKE_1.rwav.wav
WSD_ME_NPC_KOEKAKE_2.rwav.wav
WSD_ME_NPC_KOEKAKE_3.rwav.wav
WSD_ME_NPC_YOBITOME_1.rwav.wav
WSD_ME_NPC_YOBITOME_2.rwav.wav
WSD_ME_RAS_MODE_IN.rwav.wav
WSD_ME_TMS_CLEAR_1.rwav.wav
WSD_ME_TMS_CLEAR_2.rwav.wav
WSD_ME_TMS_CLEAR_3.rwav.wav
WSD_ME_TMS_HASSEI_1.rwav.wav
WSD_ME_TMS_HASSEI_2.rwav.wav
WSD_ME_TMS_KOUSHIN_1.rwav.wav
WSD_ME_TMS_KOUSHIN_2.rwav.wav
WSD_ME_TMS_SHUUNOU_1.rwav.wav
WSD_ME_TMS_SHUUNOU_2.rwav.wav
WSD_ME_UTAGAU.rwav.wav
WSD_ME_WAKATTA.rwav.wav
WSD_SE_3DS_KANKYOU_SEC_LAKE.rwav.wav
WSD_SE_3DS_MAP_ELECTRIC_FAN.rwav.wav
WSD_SE_DOG_PRINCESS_EAT.rwav.wav
WSD_SE_DOG_PRINCESS_KOON.rwav.wav
WSD_SE_DOG_PRINCESS_UHH.rwav.wav
WSD_SE_DOG_PRINCESS_WAN.rwav.wav
WSD_SE_DOG_PRINCESS_YOROKOBU.rwav.wav
WSD_SE_DOOR_AUTO_CLOSE.rwav.wav
WSD_SE_DOOR_AUTO_OPEN.rwav.wav
WSD_SE_DOOR_GUEST_HOUSE_CLOSE.rwav.wav
WSD_SE_DOOR_GUEST_HOUSE_OPEN.rwav.wav
WSD_SE_DOOR_IRON_CLOSE.rwav.wav
WSD_SE_DOOR_IRON_LOCK.rwav.wav
WSD_SE_DOOR_IRON_OPEN.rwav.wav
WSD_SE_DOOR_IRON_UNLOCK.rwav.wav
WSD_SE_DOOR_WOOD_CLOSE.rwav.wav
WSD_SE_DOOR_WOOD_KNOCK.rwav.wav
WSD_SE_DOOR_WOOD_LOCK.rwav.wav
WSD_SE_DOOR_WOOD_OPEN.rwav.wav
WSD_SE_DOOR_WOOD_UNLOCK.rwav.wav
WSD_SE_EVENT_ALFRED_COTTAGE_DRAWER_OPEN_DROP.rwav.wav
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Anyways, the included languages are Dutch, English, French, German, Italian and Spanish. English and Dutch are the interesting languages. English is missing the MAP directory that's in all the other localizations, and Dutch only has two files. As opposed to the 363 files in the French folder, and 346 in the English. I'm guessing that English is the default language and perhaps the Dutch localization got terminated early on?


Dutch? How could there be Dutch? The game was never translated into Dutch, and this language is absolutely not mentioned at all in NOE's article about the game's localization. Indeed, English is the default language (it's the language your game will automatically be set, if your console is set on a language which does not exist in the game, on English. But if the game is available in the language of your console, it will be set on this language automatically... that's why all my consoles are set on English :p). And the game was first translated into English, before they started translating it in the other languages, so yeah, English is the default language.

I wonder why the Dutch language was 'terminated'... probably because they didn't have enough people to do the translation?
Looks like they had a very tight schedule, which explains why they had so many translators and testers working on the localization, in order to do the whole thing in time. And probably, they didn't have enough people to do the Dutch translation too...


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Anyways, the included languages are Dutch, English, French, German, Italian and Spanish. English and Dutch are the interesting languages. English is missing the MAP directory that's in all the other localizations, and Dutch only has two files. As opposed to the 363 files in the French folder, and 346 in the English. I'm guessing that English is the default language and perhaps the Dutch localization got terminated early on?


Dutch? How could there be Dutch? The game was never translated into Dutch, and this language is absolutely not mentioned at all in NOE's article about the game's localization. Indeed, English is the default language (it's the language your game will automatically be set, if your console is set on a language which does not exist in the game, on English. But if the game is available in the language of your console, it will be set on this language automatically... that's why all my consoles are set on English :p). And the game was first translated into English, before they started translating it in the other languages, so yeah, English is the default language.

I wonder why the Dutch language was 'terminated'... probably because they didn't have enough people to do the translation?
Looks like they had a very tight schedule, which explains why they had so many translators and testers working on the localization, in order to do the whole thing in time. And probably, they didn't have enough people to do the Dutch translation too...


(Will continue this post later :p)


Again, there's only two files, just the fact that the Dutch folder exists is a fascinating curiosity. But since it's remarkably incomplete, I doubt you could get anything relevant out of it.

EDIT: Okay, at your insistence I've tried exploring the Dutch folder; in the first file there's the "USE THE BLOODY WRIST STRAP" warning image that all Wii games start with, and I can't open the second .arc file. So yeah, there's nothing Dutch like for the localization. Maybe the Dutch folder was created by default for the multi-lingual process.

On a semi-unrelated It's frustrating because I can see the images inside the .arc files now, but I can't export them. Gonna have to find a new utility for that feature. And, unfortunately, screenshots aren't a viable solution because part of the UI is covering the images.

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in the first file there's the "USE THE BLOODY WRIST STRAP" warning image that all Wii games start with


Hey... for a second, I thought the localization team had put a 'use the bloody wrist strap warning' message themselves xD
Like 'ok guys, don't forget to put the 'use the bloody wrist strap' message!
Still no sign of the Hotel Dusk pictures in the textures?

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I think it IS Richard... though I'm not sure either.

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Mm... I'd say that playing the game is more fun then reading the raw dialog; you actually know know who's talking as opposed to making an educated guess based upon your play through.


Well, I though that at least, it could be read... but it's a real mess xD
The problem is, I can't play the game right now... but during my next playthrough, I'll try to remember every single choice I made, and do the opposite one, and see what happens :p


And oh, I'm interested by the sounds effects... provided it's not too big a file to download.

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Run into a full stop on the textures, The files I think the rooms and the related items are in /MAP/whatever.acrarc
I've never seen a six character extensions before.

Looking at it in my Hex editor, there's some sudo-plain english, if I scroll around a bit...

Which leads me to believe that the files aren't compressed.

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OMG! I figured out how to crack the strange acrarc files. And I was semi-right about the file not being compressed. They just took a bunch of files and make them a single file, much the same way you make a sandwich; just clump it all together and call it an item.

It's a somewhat convoluted process to get the files, so coming next is the slow meticulous part where I have to blindly look inside each file.

But man, I feel so terrible right now. I think the 'room' that I'm looking at is just outside Richard's Campsite where the soda can machine is. But looking at all the texture files; they're bloody works of art. I'm looking at trees and bushes and such, it's all very beautifully painted. They all belong framed in a museum; not hidden away in a file within a file within a file. Now whenever I go back to replay Another Code: R, I'm going to 'really' need to enjoy the scenery.

And I'm terrified what my state will be when I find Charlotte's house. That particular setting was beyond beautiful in game. I'm unsure I could take looking at everything in detail.

The tool I'm currently using only permits exporting of one resource at a time; I'm going to see if there's a better tool out there.

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I'm still processing stuff from the room textures but I 'THINK' I found a cameo from a Last Window character! More on this as I continue processing.

And man, I feel so sick looking at all these textures. This is quality stuff. It seems like such a waste to have it used in tiny ways.

EDIT: DOUND THE DUSK PHOTOS!

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 Post subject: Re: Another Code R - Rips (Tons of Spoilers) !Dusk Photos Found!
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Wonderful job in finding the Dusk's photos! :)

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Really looks like Louis... but who's he with? Kyle? I don't think it's Summers though...
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Looks like Dunning... and his daughter.
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Definitely Rosa and her husband.

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they're bloody works of art. I'm looking at trees and bushes and such, it's all very beautifully painted. They all belong framed in a museum; not hidden away in a file within a file within a file. Now whenever I go back to replay Another Code: R, I'm going to 'really' need to enjoy the scenery.


I quite agree with you. I'll do the very same thing! I really love this picture:

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Too bad there isn't one a little bit... bigger.
By the way, if you want some nice wallpapers... if you ever want one (and since you seems to love Another Code: R's art, just like me :p), I've found two of them... the second one is actually my current wallpaper :)

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(Funny you should find something like that on a website like Gelbooru... well, whatever. :p)

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And I'm terrified what my state will be when I find Charlotte's house. That particular setting was beyond beautiful in game. I'm unsure I could take looking at everything in detail.

I totally agree with you here too. I remember the field behing her house, in the sunset... O__O
Definitely one of the most beautiful settings I've ever seen in a video-game. And the music makes the whole thing look even more wonderful.
Seriously, I'm really impressed by Cing's work in this game. It's a really a pity it sold so badly and that it wasn't released in the US...

If you ever plan to do a wonderful pack with all the wonderful backgrounds of the game, you'll know someone will be very interested in downloading it ;)

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I'm still processing stuff from the room textures but I 'THINK' I found a cameo from a Last Window character! More on this as I continue processing.
And man, I feel so sick looking at all these textures. This is quality stuff. It seems like such a waste to have it used in tiny ways.

Since they were probably already working on LW when they were working on Another Code: R, that wouldn't be surprising at all... and it's so like Cing to add Cameos of their other games.

Anyway, thank you so much for digging such nice stuff from the game's files... it's really nice to rediscover the game from a totally different point of view.
Ah, I can't wait to be in June, so I can't play this wonderful game once more... O_O

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Wonderful job in finding the Dusk's photos! :)

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Really looks like Louis... but who's he with? Kyle? I don't think it's Summers though...


Lets see, Hotel Dusk takes place in 1979, this photo was taken it appears, on May 13th, 1950... 1980? Hard to tell at this size. In any case, Kyle can't have a head of white hair. He'd either be in diapers, or around Last Window's age. So, now I'm really confused. I don't think it's Summers or Hyde. And Danny is dead, so that rules him off as well. Who is it?

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Looks like Dunning... and his daughter.


??? 18th, 1991. I vaguely remember 1991 being an important year in the original Trace Memory. Sayoko's murder perhaps? And I think I agree with you there.

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Definitely Rosa and her husband.


July 11th, 1958; We know that by 1979 Rosa hadn't seen her husband in years. Ironic that this photo was taken around a boat house.

PS. Speaking of the Boat house, did you notice the 'contradiction' with the textures I posted?

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they're bloody works of art. I'm looking at trees and bushes and such, it's all very beautifully painted. They all belong framed in a museum; not hidden away in a file within a file within a file. Now whenever I go back to replay Another Code: R, I'm going to 'really' need to enjoy the scenery.


I quite agree with you. I'll do the very same thing! I really love this picture:

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Too bad there isn't one a little bit... bigger.[/quote]

Actually, there may be higher quality versions. I just ripped those because I thought they were the start of the photographs. They didn't turn out to be. I think I was still at the bridge at that point in the game. But there was no point in unripping what I had already extracted. When I get some more time I'll see about finding the better versions.

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(Funny you should find something like that on a website like Gelbooru... well, whatever. :p)


Ooooh! I like! *Save save*

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I totally agree with you here too. I remember the field behing her house, in the sunset... O__O
Definitely one of the most beautiful settings I've ever seen in a video-game. And the music makes the whole thing look even more wonderful.
Seriously, I'm really impressed by Cing's work in this game. It's a really a pity it sold so badly and that it wasn't released in the US...


Yes, what a horrible shame. And there's no excuse considering it was already in English. Yes it was British English, as opposed to American, but I had to really concentrate to notice the difference. There were maybe 5 words I noticed, in a text heavy game like Another Code, that's not bad at all, even for typos.

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If you ever plan to do a wonderful pack with all the wonderful backgrounds of the game, you'll know someone will be very interested in downloading it ;)


I'll do what I can, time permitting of course!

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Since they were probably already working on LW when they were working on Another Code: R, that wouldn't be surprising at all... and it's so like Cing to add Cameos of their other games.


What I thought was a Last Window cameo, now I'm unsure about. It's the photo of the lady with the pink thing on her hair. I noticed a actor like that in the Last Window promo, but now I think she may be Charlotte's daughter.

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Anyway, thank you so much for digging such nice stuff from the game's files... it's really nice to rediscover the game from a totally different point of view.
Ah, I can't wait to be in June, so I can't play this wonderful game once more... O_O


No no! Thank-YOU. If you hadn't helped me import, I likely wouldn't have been interested enough in the game to rip it.

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Lets see, Hotel Dusk takes place in 1979, this photo was taken it appears, on May 13th, 1950... 1980? Hard to tell at this size. In any case, Kyle can't have a head of white hair. He'd either be in diapers, or around Last Window's age. So, now I'm really confused. I don't think it's Summers or Hyde. And Danny is dead, so that rules him off as well. Who is it?


No, it clearly says 1980 on the picture. Though that means the man with Louis can't be Kyle, you're right... maybe it's his old man, as he'd say? Though, that makes me wonder why he's be here. Argh, we'll probably never know who that mysterious person is... :sadshoe:

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??? 18th, 1991. I vaguely remember 1991 being an important year in the original Trace Memory. Sayoko's murder perhaps? And I think I agree with you there.

Vaguely remember, but... but... my dear... 1991 is the year Ashley was born :)
And the date is the 18th of October... I wouldn't be surprised if actually, it was Ashley birthday, though I can't check... I only have TM's booklet with me, and in TM, her birthday was set the same day as yours. Her mother was murdered on her 3rd birthday, meaning she died in 1994...

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I just did (thanks to your 'help'). I wonder if it's a typo they later corrected?

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Yes it was British English, as opposed to American, but I had to really concentrate to notice the difference.

Actually, they tried to give the dialogue some sort of 'american feeling' to it, while keeping the UK spelling. Actually, I know how to recognize the differences between the two kind of English, but I don't remember the game being more UK or American English...
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What I thought was a Last Window cameo, now I'm unsure about. It's the photo of the lady with the pink thing on her hair. I noticed a actor like that in the Last Window promo, but now I think she may be Charlotte's daughter.

You mean, the woman in the photographer's book? (Charlotte's daughter?)

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Re: 'Contradiction'

If the texture is in the game, it's in the game or dummied. They couldn't have gone back and fixed it because it's there and not fixed.

Re: American vs British.

Well, with Characters like Dan Maxwell and his rustic southern/western American accent, mannerisms, and phrases "Aw shucks, just call me Dan."; that's kinda obvious with his American-isms. But with the game as a whole I didn't see anything I noted as distinctly American in nature. Well, aside from the date in JC Valley. Man I got that puzzle wrong so many times because I was mentally trying to correct the date input for the European syntax. Imagine my blond moment when I learned that the date input was supposed to be done as was shown in American style.

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If the texture is in the game, it's in the game or dummied. They couldn't have gone back and fixed it because it's there and not fixed.

By fixing, I meant = create a correct texture, and replace the 'bad' one with the correct one. Which is what they did, it seems... I don't remember seeing the texture with the mistake ingame... Besides, it would be weird to have two different texture from the same thing, wouldn't it?

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Well, aside from the date in JC Valley. Man I got that puzzle wrong so many times because I was mentally trying to correct the date input for the European syntax. Imagine my blond moment when I learned that the date input was supposed to be done as was shown in American style.


Are you talking about the puzzle where you have to

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Man, I remember getting stuck for quite a few minutes, since I didn't know what to do with the keypad...


The more obvious, the more likely I'll be stuck. Seriously xD

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Actually, redundent textures do make sense. Textures that are built into a 'room' aren't shared with other 'rooms'. So the boat house you are looking at from the street isn't the same one from standing on the portch, and is separate from the one in the far distant background. There's many an oppertunity to catch this mistake. And what's more, we don't even know if that's an actual texture for the building. It could be a prop in the barn Matt hides in even. There's some searching to be done.

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