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Is the new Mood Matrix looking a bit too simple?
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I'm a little skeptic on it right now, but I'm really interested to see how they make this new gimmick much more difficult. Any ideas guys?
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R.M. wrote:
I know it is very early, but I'm not totally sold on the Mood Matrix. The main point of the Mood Matrix is to determine if a witnesses's testimony and their feelings about a particular line match with how they should be feeling. It seems like that seems a bit too easy. There are only 4 options and it seems likely that it'll be easy to predict the general feeling of the 4 that should be the correct option to choose.
I'm a little skeptic on it right now, but I'm really interested to see how they make this new gimmick much more difficult. Any ideas guys?
I'm a little skeptic on it right now, but I'm really interested to see how they make this new gimmick much more difficult. Any ideas guys?
I was thinking this too, but I'm hoping it turns out to be more complicated in context. Think about Perceive. You look at the witness close up and look for stuff that moves. It sounds really simple. (And to be fair it was never that hard). But later in the game the difficulty definitely increases.
My guess is that in Case 4/5 the mood matrix will be giving off all 4 at once, and that there will be a witness who is able to "cheat" the system, etc. I doubt they'd make it too easy in the long run.
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I dunno. I'd like to see it more used outside of the courtroom how the psych-locks are. But that's just me.
Any thoughts on that?
For me the mood matrix seems too high-tech for me. I know these games are set in the future but it's still us? Right?
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Black-Harmonia wrote:
For me the mood matrix seems too high-tech for me. I know these games are set in the future but it's still us? Right?
It's set 15 years into the future, yes, but the entire place seems to be run like the 1980s, minus the outfits and giant hairdos. And I agree, putting this high tech thing into this world, where previously we had doors easily opened by cards, giant cellphones, phonebooths and similar 'old gadget' feels kinda odd.
I'm not saying they should give Phoenix a Smartphone. Actually, I'd hate that. (I hate putting these smartphones into my games, I don't think they have a place there. Create your own model of cellphone or just make it something entirely different) With the Mood Matrix, it would be good to show that their technology is going forwards, but.... *shrug* still awkward.
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CatMuto wrote:
Black-Harmonia wrote:
For me the mood matrix seems too high-tech for me. I know these games are set in the future but it's still us? Right?
It's set 15 years into the future, yes, but the entire place seems to be run like the 1980s, minus the outfits and giant hairdos. And I agree, putting this high tech thing into this world, where previously we had doors easily opened by cards, giant cellphones, phonebooths and similar 'old gadget' feels kinda odd.
I'm not saying they should give Phoenix a Smartphone. Actually, I'd hate that. (I hate putting these smartphones into my games, I don't think they have a place there. Create your own model of cellphone or just make it something entirely different) With the Mood Matrix, it would be good to show that their technology is going forwards, but.... *shrug* still awkward.
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Hey, just because there's old tech in the games, that doesn't exclude the existence of new gadgets. That's the nice thing about technology: no matter how high-tech your stuff gets, you can always fall back on the lower-tech stuff, and it'll still work just as it used to.
I kinda like finally seeing some more "futuristic" things for once. It supports the whole "It's the future" thing, and shows that these people can do more responsible things with technology than "finger print scanners on the back sides of safety box-handles".
As for the whole Mood Matrix thing, I've already made it pretty clear how thrilled I am about finally getting this, and while I'm kinda worried that it will be a little to easy (like Logic was in AAI), I think it can be made decently challenging with a little effort. If it all comes down to contradictions between testimony and the witness's mood, things will get a lot more challenging once we get testimonies that aren't so easy to assign a mood to (thus making it harder to spot the inconsistency).
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...But I feel like I'm hoping for too much. I'm fine with the Mood Matrix as it is now anyway. It has potential to become a challenge to decipher.
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ADA McCoy wrote:
In terms of the futuristic debate, there's always been that contradiction of 90's tech mixed with super futuristic elements. Look at Godot's Star Trek-Style visor in GS3. Compared to that, the mood matrix looks very normal.
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something that can tell if someone is sad or happy isn't that out of place.
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Rubia Silve Ryu wrote:
ADA McCoy wrote:
In terms of the futuristic debate, there's always been that contradiction of 90's tech mixed with super futuristic elements. Look at Godot's Star Trek-Style visor in GS3. Compared to that, the mood matrix looks very normal.
I don't see a contradiction. Old and new technology can always be intermingled. 
(...How could I have used the word so poorly?...)
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DonteTheDA wrote:
According to the Famitsu review at least, the Mood Matrix becomes trickier and trickier to use, implying that it won't be as simple as the bracelet was
I figured as much. I knew they weren't going to let us off that easy. That's a good thing, though. I like a little challenge~
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DonteTheDA wrote:
Yeah. To be honest, the bracelet puzzles were cakewalks.
The Mood Matrix looked even easier than the bracelet to me, so I was a little concerned, but that Famitsu article gave me a lot of hope that it will be challenging.
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CatMuto wrote:
It's set 15 years into the future, yes, but the entire place seems to be run like the 1980s, minus the outfits and giant hairdos. And I agree, putting this high tech thing into this world, where previously we had doors easily opened by cards, giant cellphones, phonebooths and similar 'old gadget' feels kinda odd.
I believe in the game Athena addresses Phoenix's phone as being such an old model, and it's been 8 years between T&T and this game. That is a huge gap for technology, I'd say the MASON system was a little high techish too.
Either way I think the Mood Matrix will turn into quite the challenge. I seen in one part you have to correct a witness's distorted memories with it. I hope at one point it turns from pressing information out of the emotions to presenting evidence that would contradict the emotion the witness is feeling at the time.
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