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What part should Phoenix play in GS5?Topic%20Title

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I'm really sorry if there is already a topic on this.

But I wan to know what people think.

Whether or not he should be a victim, killer or something else you can come up with. :hobohodo:
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I really don't see Phoenix being a murderer-- but I see him as an accomplice, especially if he's got a friend who needs his help. He'd be against it, oh yeah, but in the end he'd probably end up getting heavily involved. I dunno.
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Really, none. He took up too much of Apollo's limelight in GS4. If anything, I just want him to be in a few brief appearances to encourage Apollo or something. I'd like to see him become a defense attorney again, though.
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Well, maybe Phoenix could appear in the first case of the game, and then just disappear until the very end of the game.
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Victim

He took way too much limelight in GS4 from Apollo.
Not that I don't like him but he should let Apollo have his time to shine.

They should give him a minor role, or none at all.
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Phoenix will be...

THE NEXT PROSECUTOR!


He said he might retake the bar exam... he could choose to become either if he felt like it. :karma:

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I could see him as a victim.
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Unfortunately, I could also see him as a victim.
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Phoenix, victim?
No!

I would prefer him just to...be there.
However
He cannot do the following...
Die
Kill someone
Prosecute
Or jump in at the last minute, defend someone, save the day as this would make apollo look bad.

Mabye Phoenix could be there as some sort of 'reference book to characters of the PW arc'
Ie, in the possible situation of Edgeworth or Von karma being guest prosecutor in the last case, Phoenix could just randomly turn up to his house (not sure why it would be random, anywayyyyy) and say 'They're really good...blahblahblah....I faced them before.... blahblahblah....etc' then leave.
I prefer Phoenix being around as you can also get a load of Apollos 'Mr Wright' jokes/saracastic phrases out.
Accomplice to murder, mabye.... Then his downfall would be complete :sadshoe:
that is a possibility though, a quite intriguing one.
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I'd say

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Ceres wrote:
Symphony No. 25 Mozart.


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DramaticaXIV2 wrote:
Ceres wrote:
Symphony No. 25 Mozart.


:gant:


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76_trombone wrote:
DramaticaXIV2 wrote:
Ceres wrote:
Symphony No. 25 Mozart.


:gant:


:gant-clap:


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I'd say

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:gant: :gant: :gant: :gant:

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At least it was originally a real reply... :yuusaku:
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DramaticaXIV2 wrote:
At least it was originally a real reply... :yuusaku:

one emoticon ≠ a real reply
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were these 'replies' all to my post, or another one?
I can't tell...
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were these 'replies' all to my post, or another one?
I can't tell...
soz.


No, they were about the several replies of Gant smilies after Ceres's first post.
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Get his badge back, and get out of the country.

'Nuff said.
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Make a major appearance in the first case with him being Trucy's aide in the first case (yes, I propose having Trucy as a defense attorney. IMAGINE THE LULZ), have him as a minor character that acts as support for the second to fourth cases, and kill him off in the fifth case.
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I say make Apollo Justice non-canon, and bring Phoenix back as main character.

*waits for the hates...*
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...Hopefully someday... xD

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He god...When I read topics name I didn't notice the "part" -word,
and that's why the only thing in my head was:
- Anything but trumpet...

But I hope he will be a jobless bum...
......wait a minute...
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Baloo wrote:
I say make Apollo Justice non-canon, and bring Phoenix back as main character.


I'm with you! :butzthumbs:
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I would like to see Phoenix restored, and have him retire/defend quietly, with Apollo picking up where he couldn't, so Apollo can shine on his own WITHOUT Phoenix helping him.
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I think Phoenix can't help in all game...
think! :think-think-think:
He know it all!
If Phoenix stay with Apollo all game this can't be funny.. :yuusaku:

WARNING! This is too much spoiler of AJ.
Spoiler:
In the final case, you can see all the things phoenix know, HE KNOW IT ALL!
Apollos real mother, what happend with Shadi, the false evidens, everything XD


And yes, Apollo can shine by his own :godot:
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I'm not sure if there's much he could do. Except aid Apolo like in GS4.
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Baloo wrote:
I say make Apollo Justice non-canon, and bring Phoenix back as main character.

*waits for the hates...*

THIS. This, or the game centering around Hobo!Nick himself averting the timeline of AJAA- Going back and over the course of 4 cases, befriending his past self, convincing him to not take the case that had the forged evidence, or even better, have Phoenix help his younger self better the timeline that will come, and then HoboNick fades from existance, redeemed, telling his younger self to remember to come back and do this, or it will all be undone. Game play would shift between Young!Nick in court, and Hobo!Nick out of court.
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Victim in a late case. Admit it, it will be epic with all the "who the? what the?! WHY THE?!"

And no, not by
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Kristoph
since we've heard too many crimes pinned on him already (though they are true, I can't see him into anymore crimes--it's like an excuse from getting a new villain). Come on--there has to be someone else who has something against him (maybe not obviously) after 7 years!

Or alternate option, he gets his badge and moves out of country. But that would bring Trucy along, wouldn't it? Unless it's all "you take care of her" drama that isn't so dramatic for Hobo!Nick.
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Johnny Rotan wrote:
I'm not sure if there's much he could do. Except aid Apolo like in GS4.


I was just quickly reading trhrought this and thought it said "Except kill Apollo"

Don't ask why :minuki:
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Phoenix's arc is over, guys. It's time for the new guys to get a chance to shine.

In GS5, Phoenix should be the manager of the Wright Anything Agency... so basically his role in 4-2 and 4-3. Maybe there could be a background sideplot that feeds into the final case in some small way where he is hiring people with actual talent. (Lamiroir and Vera are definately in a position to be snapped up - he might have already been working on that as part of his actions in AJ.)
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I was thinking if he is in no way playable he would have a secondary helper role, kind of like Pearl but not, since Trucy is already AJ's Maya.
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I think he should be playable for a portion of the game, but Apollo should remain the main focus.

And I think he should be a bit less...pathetic, than he was in GS4.
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In case 2, he should have a little conversation with Apollo and Trucy when they find out that they are siblings.
In case 3, Apollo should need some advice from Phoenix (like Apollo needs some info that only the victim could know), and he suggests to go to Maya, Master of Kurain, for some channeling service. (This is also an introduction of older Maya, which we really need, without her taking the spotlight.)
Case 4, which would be a short, one-trial thing, should be his return to being a lawyer.
And finally, case 5 should be the "double case", where both he and Apollo take one case (which are obviously connected).

Preferably, the plot of case 5 would be about Apollo, so that Phoenix doesn't take the spotlight.
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Case 1 is :phoenix: re-taking the bar exam in a mock trial - a good excuse for the tutorial case. :odoroki: could be his mentor!

Cases 2 and 3 :phoenix: can just be a character. Like all the other characters. :odoroki: gets to be the attorney. :phoenix: can tell :odoroki: backstory, or provide a little evidence occasionally.

^ I like the sneaky slip-in of :maya:, provided that :pearl: is there too.

Case 4 could be :phoenix:'s case. A shorter case, similar to 3-4. However, :phoenix: can't contradict one vital testimony, but is saved at the last minute when :odoroki: jumps in and perceives the truth to save the case!

Case 5 can have both lawyers on at once! :godot: No, that's just weird. Perhaps :odoroki: becomes the defendant, and defends himself, like :phoenix: in 1-2.

However, :phoenix: does the investigation part, because :odoroki: is locked in the detention center. This also makes sense because the :magatama-spin: only works during investigation, while the... darn, no bracelet smily... only works in court.
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RobbieValiant wrote:
Baloo wrote:
I say make Apollo Justice non-canon, and bring Phoenix back as main character.

*waits for the hates...*

THIS. This, or the game centering around Hobo!Nick himself averting the timeline of AJAA- Going back and over the course of 4 cases, befriending his past self, convincing him to not take the case that had the forged evidence, or even better, have Phoenix help his younger self better the timeline that will come, and then HoboNick fades from existance, redeemed, telling his younger self to remember to come back and do this, or it will all be undone. Game play would shift between Young!Nick in court, and Hobo!Nick out of court.


:spit: Crazy talk!

We can have bracelets that slow down time and magnify people and jewels that can tell when someone is hiding someone but time travel is totally out of the question.

Nick already created enough time paradoxes with the Mason System geez....

The only thing he's not done to create a time paradox is kill ocelot
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I think he should become a defence attorney again, but not actually be playable or seen in court until the final case, where he shares the spotlight with Apollo (for whatever reason. Either Apollo needs to take over halfway through, or they run two [linked] cases concurrently).

Until then he should act as Apollo's boss and mentor. For the most part he'll be away working on his own cases, but you'll have opportunities to talk with him, just as you did in AA4.
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Victim in a late case. Admit it, it will be epic with all the "who the? what the?! WHY THE?!"

And no, not by
Spoiler:
Kristoph
since we've heard too many crimes pinned on him already (though they are true, I can't see him into anymore crimes--it's like an excuse from getting a new villain). Come on--there has to be someone else who has something against him (maybe not obviously) after 7 years!

Or alternate option, he gets his badge and moves out of country. But that would bring Trucy along, wouldn't it? Unless it's all "you take care of her" drama that isn't so dramatic for Hobo!Nick.


Winston maybe wants to kill phoenix. He got defeated 3 times by him.
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I can see Phoenix being the defense attorney in the first case... once again, going up against the major pain himself... then he plays a similar role as he did in Apollo Justice... I just hope we get to see Maya again :yogi:
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Winston maybe wants to kill phoenix. He got defeated 3 times by him.

. . . Why do I suspect that I'd feel bad sending Payne to prison? :eh?:
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