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PART 1 OUT!

Hey CR, I decided to finally come out in the open and post about my fan case, Turnabout Generations.
The medium used to make the case is AAO, and will be a trial-only case for now.
And I'll just quote from my original OP from AAO forums:
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This is my first attempt at a trial.
This trial is meant to be an example to follow along with my guides, and not only this, but to pose a "what-if" scenario of a transition between GS4 and GS5, or maybe the start of GS5 itself. There are other reasons I'm doing this, but I don't want to disclose at the moment.
I'm also attempting somewhat to keep things authentic detail and personality wise.
There will be a bit of custom external stuff as well.
I'm making this thread now so I won't forget my progress and such.


TEASER IS OUT: Take a look here!
It's slow though, so please bare with it.


Now I present a vague summary of the case:
Spoiler: Summary
"The new generation must succeed the old."

It's been a couple of months since the case of Vera Misham, and Apollo's been eager for a new case, and has been awarded as such when he finds out a high-profile authority has been murdered! He takes the case immediately. The defendant turns out to be one mysterious, cool-headed client, what's his role in all of this?
Apollo's facing some serious competition, a new judge, along with a new prosecutor on the block, and everything and almost everyone against his side, this will be his toughest case ever! Can he pull through and defend his client? Play to find out!


-Progress-Part 1 currently out!
Spoiler: Credits (Will be updated)
Dypo- Fixing the minor issues I had throughout the whole trial, and for a custom sprite pose (when he gets to fixing it xD)

E.D. Revolution- For literally all the aesthetics you'll see in the trial, not only this, but for helping me out pretty much along the way with this, I literally couldn't have gone this far without his immense help! Filling in all the details, suggesting ways of making logics better, etc. You can consider him the co-author to this case!

Tap-When he gets to making a sweet new boxart (soon hopefully :p).

Unas and Sparrow-Ofc for AAO itself!

Meph- Helping out and answering some questions I had about the editor, but also for his blur courtroom sprites.

Court-Records.net- For all of their immense resources related to the AA series!

Capcom-For the AA series!

Danielinhoni- Teaser!

BBlader- For volunteering for much needed beta-testing! Alot of his bug reports proved crucial to put release on hold! Not only this, but for constant encouragement after a certain incident that almost cancelled this case!

Quadratic- For much needed beta-testing! And going ahead and start to fix issues he reported himself at that :p

And you! The user! For checking out this thread ;)

Anyone else I may have forgotten, again, this will be updated more.

Part 1 is out guys!

UPDATE: PART 1 IS OUT! BRING HEADPHONES!
-Warning! Loading will take a long time depending on connection!
-For users who have a slow machine, use google chrome, otherwise FIREFOX IS RECOMMENDED!


UPDATE 2: Got an Alpha-stage box-art up, character edits/background done by me:
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(Also I know the AJ logo is inconsistent with the big one on this OP, I'm gonna fix that later :P)
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Your guide? :yuusaku:


Also does a new judge mean Turnabout Substitution can be canon in here? :D
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Fangames: New Year's Turnabout - Turnabout Substitution - Silence of the Turnabout - Turnabout Pairs
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Spoiler:
It's been a couple of months since the case of Vera Misham, and Apollo's been eager for a new case
=> Apparently not :D
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I could make it fit to canon if it sounds like it's a good idea in the long run, but this fan trial is actually indirectly related to another trial that's on AAO, actually, I could make it relate to the Turnabout Substitution, but that would require to change a whole plot element.

When I mean guide, I meant that I wrote a couple of guides for the AAO's trial editor, so this trial I'm making is not just a contribution I want to make to the community, but also to show the potential of what you can do with the medium.
I want to be able to raise the standards for first-time trial creators as well, so I'd like this trial to be somewhat of a model that first-time creators can look to as a way of paying attention to the aesthetics of how a trial is run for example, since this tends to be overlooked alot.
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Fun Fact: Did you know, that I thought your Judge Chambers was actually the canon name for the old judge for the AA series when I played your trial?
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Ping' wrote:
Spoiler:
It's been a couple of months since the case of Vera Misham, and Apollo's been eager for a new case, after he's just finished Turnabout Substitution too
=> Apparently not :D

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Teaser's out guys! I know it's slow, but please bare with it.
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Must...not...relent to...the...awesome...logo...
Signatures are hard...
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???
Which logo?
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Awesome teaser.

Looks really fifth-case worthy though xD
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Fangames: New Year's Turnabout - Turnabout Substitution - Silence of the Turnabout - Turnabout Pairs
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Appreciate it!
You guys will be in for a surprise for sure, I'm hoping to reach a WTF level in the beginning of the game.

Oh, and there will be lots'o'custom music, so if you have some headphones, I'd suggest using them.
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I do not want to be rude but Turnabout Substitution was also Fanfiction and may not be compared with other fan ideas.
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miles__edgeworth wrote:
I do not want to be rude but Turnabout Substitution was also Fanfiction and may not be compared with other fan ideas.

What are you talking about? :lana:
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Interesting teaser.

The prospect of Franziska "leading humanity into out future" made me laugh for some reason :p
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miles__edgeworth wrote:
I do not want to be rude but Turnabout Substitution was also Fanfiction and may not be compared with other fan ideas.


While I appreciate the kind gesture edgeworth, I'm kind of confused. How are they comparing their case to mine? They aren't saying "oh well my case is better than yours blah blah", they aren't bragging or putting down my fan case, unless there is some secret hinting being implied here haha :p. I think they are more trying to determine how the timeline could have fit both my case and theirs together though.

And yeah, I was thinking someone would notice that LOL, just don't associate the scenes with the text THAT literally though :p

Oh, and I'm almost finished with part 1 guys, I just got to wrap it up along the end and finish adding in details, along with some much needed betatesting.
I'm still going to do some experimenting though.
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I like the idea of incorporating as many fancases as possible into our (my) little extended-canon xDDD


Also, um, I think Frenchy may have... been trying to point out the typo "out" instead of "our" :x (Unless that was Frenchy's typo? lol)
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Bad Player wrote:
I like the idea of incorporating as many fancases as possible into our (my) little extended-canon xDDD


Also, um, I think Frenchy may have... been trying to point out the typo "out" instead of "our" :x (Unless that was Frenchy's typo? lol)



Yeah that was all him haha.

Btw, the part 1 will seem to be very short, due to the fact that dialogue goes faster than usual.
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Yeah, 'twas a typo on my part.
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I forgot to mention, sooner or later, I'm going to need a couple of beta testers to play my trial.
I've already got one person signed up, but I'd be happy to have one or two more to sign up.

The criterias are:
You must use either chrome or firefox to test the trial on AAO.

I say this because most of my own personal testing was done through chrome, since firefox is too slow to play in my browser :p, and if you're already registered on AAO, that's even more convenient!
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Sorry about that, I meant the recoloured AJ Logo. I don't know why, but the colours just look awesome on it
Signatures are hard...
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Oh yeah, thanks haha, there's a special reason why I made it that way though =]
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Huddini wrote:
Oh yeah, thanks haha, there's a special reason why I made it that way though =]


It is interesting and unique. I could say a lot about it. The inverted black in white rather than the usual white in black makes me wonder the symbolic meaning you may have for this episode. And using a much loved concept (the generations) makes it for all the better.

Dun Dun dunnnnn... Wonder who will read this? Yep let's see. (8/5/12)
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Thats a good interpretation Radex! I'm also waiting for the box art to show up (Tap said he will take on the role of doing it, which might take a long time, but once you see it, you'll be like HUH!?)
You actually will never find out much about the logo until this case is actually finished to the last part.

My goodness, I am sooo almost done with it, but I'm too lazy to fill in all the details! I need to get finishing it so it can be beta-tested, I don't really want people to wait much longer anymore.
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For those wondering some of the music used in the game, I decided to show one piece of music, you can guess what it will be used for, to represent the introduction of new music in each new game, and to "fit" within the time period:
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BEST Played with HEADPHONES
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The music fits nicely. :]
Also, about the black recolor... Does this mean that Apollo will be black?! xD
No, but, seriously, does it mean that Apollo will be shrouded my negative emotions through the case?
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It really wouldn't fit his personality, so I'd doubt it :p


Again, you won't ever know the meaning of the logo until the end of this case, and that's a maybe :p
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I would love to have some beta testers to get another perspective on how to improve part 1, otherwise, I'm either going to work on this more or just release as is and see what public opinion is, if you guys want it now.....then I need beta testing, but if you want it later.....you'll have to wait later :p


I'm probably also thinking about just releasing part 1 and not bother to do part 2/3 for awhile, it was really hard to get mostly everything right, and considering that this is my first time ever making a trial, I'd say I did ok, but I don't feel real good about the case itself.

But hopefully, if there's alot of love to the case, I might think about converting the case to PyWright/PWLib (with the immense help of a team of course).
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Huddini wrote:
It really wouldn't fit his personality, so I'd doubt it :p


Again, you won't ever know the meaning of the logo until the end of this case, and that's a maybe :p

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Patience is a virtue, I guess. xD
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Haha, maybe ill spoil it eventually, but if I did, I'd spoil the whole story o.o
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Ok, I got this beta tested, and while I got good feedback overall, I'm going to hold release due to the fact there's alot of minor issues I need to get fixed, sorry for those who wanted it early!
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Huddini wrote:
Haha, maybe ill spoil it eventually, but if I did, I'd spoil the whole story o.o

Stop. Making. Me. Anxious. Please. xD
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Heh heh heh... Unfortunately for you, Scent, that's completely impossible. xD

As soon as I'm done fixing everything, it'll be released. Feel free to nag me, although I can't guarantee anything. xD
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Oh snap, you shoulda pmed me at AAO, I was going through editing :(

oh And dypo, welcome Quadratic to the collabs list, since he basically found a whole lot of important issues that I never would have found, so he's going to be doing some editing of his own too.
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I hadn't started yet, because I still had some homework to do.

I only noticed your mention of the editing, and commented. =P
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That's fine man!

Actually, I need to betatest this personally, there's ALOT of stuff that I still feel needs working on.
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PART 1s OUT! Enjoy!

Special thanks for BB and ED, BB for the encouragement after the sabotage controversy and extensive betatesting, and ED for literally coordinating this trial with me, were it not for these guys, I would have never thought of making this trial in the first place xD
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Yay!! :D
*is already loading the game*
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BTW! I had to take down the link currently for the admin to determine whether a variable issue we have is a bug or not, hopefully itll come back up shortly :D
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I am STILL playing the game (loving it!)! I must say, it's very great! It's very philosophic, dark, intriguing, dramatic and detailed!

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Something you should R.E.A.L.L.Y. take note-off:
When in Cross-Examinations and you, hypothetically speaking, present the wrong piece of evidence, the music is supposed to keep playing, unlike when you present the correct piece of evidence, where it doesn't loop.

In other words:

  1. When you present the wrong evidence, keep the music playing.
  2. When it's correct, stop the music.

Also... You should make a walkthrough for the trial.
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Trial is back online! HAve fun guys!

@Scent, that's something that really irked me in the official AA games, I hated knowing whether or not I presented wrong evidence when the music doesn't play, and I don't want users to know what's right or what's wrong, this was intentional ;)
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Huddini wrote:
Trial is back online! HAve fun guys!

@Scent, that's something that really irked me in the official AA games, I hated knowing whether or not I presented wrong evidence when the music doesn't play, and I don't want users to know what's right or what's wrong, this was intentional ;)

Oooh, okay! I get'cha. Also, I saw some very minor grammatical errors, but they were few and were at the beginning of the trial.

Spoiler: DO NOT READ IF YOU HAVEN'T FINISHED THE TRIAL!!!
Is the trial supposed to end when Apollo gets scolded by the Judge when he tells him he helped the Prosecution destroy his own case by presenting the autopsy report and suggesting that the wounds were infected?
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