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So, in the Japanese version, Fulbright just said "Justice!" instead of "In justice we trust!"?

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About Athena's knife, I always thought it was the same knife which killed Terran...

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So, in the Japanese version, Fulbright just said "Justice!" instead of "In justice we trust!"?

Also...
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About Athena's knife, I always thought it was the same knife which killed Terran...

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It is the same knife.

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As far as presenting evidence goes, it may as well be the same. But the actual knife they used are different, they have the same shape and look because they're part of a standard issue toolbox for the space center
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This is one thing I don't get.

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In case 5, Pearl reveals that black psyche locks guard secrets the person isn't consciously aware of, yet in the previous game, Kristoph Gavin had them, yet he was obviously aware of his secret! It doesn't make any sense to me.

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This is one thing I don't get.

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In case 5, Pearl reveals that black psyche locks guard secrets the person isn't consciously aware of, yet in the previous game, Kristoph Gavin had them, yet he was obviously aware of his secret! It doesn't make any sense to me.

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Kristoph was incredibly possesive of his secrets the point of paranoia. Its possible that during his time of the 7 years, he mannaged to force his real motive for murder so far down into his subconscious that he, at the time, almost completely forgot about the motive. It certainly seemed at the time that Kristoph was attempting to feign ignorance. However, at court, when he was faced with evidence, he was forced to recall the details of his murder.
Alternatively, the source that Pearl read is only one interpretation of what they could actually be. Perhaps somewhere there's an alternative explanation for what the black psyche locks could also be: a secret so dark that the locks themselves turn black. In both occurrences, the secrets hidden have to do with a murder so perhaps that is another possible criteria for the colour of the lock.
And then the most likely explanation is that Capcom simply added the definition while ignoring the specifics of the previous black lock sighting (although that seems a little peculiar, seeing as I seem to remember Phoenix recalling Kristoph's locks after seeing Athena's)
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This is one thing I don't get.

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In case 5, Pearl reveals that black psyche locks guard secrets the person isn't consciously aware of, yet in the previous game, Kristoph Gavin had them, yet he was obviously aware of his secret! It doesn't make any sense to me.

Where is it ever stated? "Obviously" does not mean "canonically" :P
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A question... How are Athena's mannerisms? I demo she was speaking German, in trailer French, and how does it look in the full release?
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She is often overemotional, and she speaks international words like a tourist in my opinion. European weeaboo :godot:
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European weeaboo :godot:


She isn't nearly as bad as that one guy from the Professor Layton games, but yeah. Pretty much.
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Oh yeah, I just thought of something.

What's the equivalent of "Fool Bright" in the Japanese version?
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Oh yeah, I just thought of something.

What's the equivalent of "Fool Bright" in the Japanese version?

Is that Blackquill's name for Fulbright? He just calls him "ossan" (old man) in the Japanese version.
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Bad Player wrote:
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Oh yeah, I just thought of something.

What's the equivalent of "Fool Bright" in the Japanese version?

Is that Blackquill's name for Fulbright? He just calls him "ossan" (old man) in the Japanese version.


Yeah, it is. Hmm. I thought it'd be more specific, seeing as the English version is a play on words.

Bugs me that they made it two words and not just "Foolbright," though. /nitpick
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Yeah I agree, but it is really just one of a handful of oddities in the localization.
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I know its a little late for this from my old post but i found the proof i needed while i was playing Case 1
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That might not mean what you think it means. ;)
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Where the heck is Gumshoe in this game? Is there something that happened in the previous plot I forgot to make him completely absent from this game? I missed him.
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Where the heck is Gumshoe in this game? Is there something that happened in the previous plot I forgot to make him completely absent from this game? I missed him.

You haven't heard? Gumshoe's the chief of the police now!
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Where the heck is Gumshoe in this game? Is there something that happened in the previous plot I forgot to make him completely absent from this game? I missed him.
Real reason: They wanted to introduce more new characters.

In-game reason: Fulbright is Blackquill's assigned detective, whereas Gumshoe is (allegedly) still assigned to Edgeworth.
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Koop wrote:
Where the heck is Gumshoe in this game? Is there something that happened in the previous plot I forgot to make him completely absent from this game? I missed him.

The only things which remind of Gumshoe
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Koop wrote:
Where the heck is Gumshoe in this game? Is there something that happened in the previous plot I forgot to make him completely absent from this game? I missed him.

The only things which remind of Gumshoe
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are suggestions of possible paycuts made by prosecutors


I'm wondering if Gumshoe is even still assigned to Edgeworth at this point now that Edgeworth has been promoted.
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I just want to know if...
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Every killer will be spoiled in the episode's intro sequence. I definitely hope not and if that's the case, I'll try to look away.
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I just want to know if...
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Every killer will be spoiled in the episode's intro sequence. I definitely hope not and if that's the case, I'll try to look away.


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It was only for case 1 and 2 that showed who the killer was. The rest of the cases dont :sillytrucy:
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Quick question from someone who doesn't have enough money to buy the DLC case.
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What does Athena call Pearl in the localisation of Reclaimed?

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Quick question from someone who doesn't have enough money to buy the DLC case.
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What does Athena call Pearl in the localisation of Reclaimed?

I believe it was "Ms. Athena" or "Athena".
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Quick question from someone who doesn't have enough money to buy the DLC case.
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What does Athena call Pearl in the localisation of Reclaimed?

I believe it was "Ms. Athena" or "Athena".
They meant it the other way around, which is "Pearly".
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Joe4evr wrote:
BonnyMono wrote:
Shadow Magician wrote:
Quick question from someone who doesn't have enough money to buy the DLC case.
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What does Athena call Pearl in the localisation of Reclaimed?

I believe it was "Ms. Athena" or "Athena".
They meant it the other way around, which is "Pearly".

:oops: Looks like I have read it the other way around...
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Koop wrote:
Where the heck is Gumshoe in this game? Is there something that happened in the previous plot I forgot to make him completely absent from this game? I missed him.

You haven't heard? Gumshoe's the chief of the police now!


Really? Where's that nugget of info in game?

I mean, as good as Fullbright's theme is, some times he left me saying "I miss Gumshoe".
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Where the heck is Gumshoe in this game? Is there something that happened in the previous plot I forgot to make him completely absent from this game? I missed him.

Yes, its name is Stepladder. When it heard that Charley wasn't examinable in this game (outside of the Quiz DLC), it wobbled and collapsed into depression. Gumshoe had just been using it to clean some upper shelves in Edgeworth's new office, but fell over and hit his head. He's now resting at the Hickfield Clinic and needs some time to recuperate. When he reawakens, he may have some symptoms of amnesia, but he'll be fine.

Sadly, no one can fix poor Steppy's creaky joints anymore. You fought a long hard battle, Stepladder, may you rest in peace. :larry:
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Case 3 inconsistency

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Wait so ok, didn't Myriam give the tape to the police because she has tapes everywhere? BUT then later they say that Hugh was given it by Professor Means to give in to the police? Or was it that Myriam gave it to Professor Means who gave it to Hugh who gave it to the police?
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Case 3 inconsistency

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Wait so ok, didn't Myriam give the tape to the police because she has tapes everywhere? BUT then later they say that Hugh was given it by Professor Means to give in to the police? Or was it that Myriam gave it to Professor Means who gave it to Hugh who gave it to the police?
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Myriam claimed to have recorded it, but she didn't. That tape was taken from a different recording anyway, and Means gave it to Hugh to give to the police.

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Rubia Silve Ryu wrote:
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Case 3 inconsistency

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Wait so ok, didn't Myriam give the tape to the police because she has tapes everywhere? BUT then later they say that Hugh was given it by Professor Means to give in to the police? Or was it that Myriam gave it to Professor Means who gave it to Hugh who gave it to the police?
idontunderstand

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Myriam claimed to have recorded it, but she didn't. That tape was taken from a different recording anyway, and Means gave it to Hugh to give to the police.


Oh I see.
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Rubia Silve Ryu wrote:
scarlet-flowers wrote:
Case 3 inconsistency

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Wait so ok, didn't Myriam give the tape to the police because she has tapes everywhere? BUT then later they say that Hugh was given it by Professor Means to give in to the police? Or was it that Myriam gave it to Professor Means who gave it to Hugh who gave it to the police?
idontunderstand

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Myriam claimed to have recorded it, but she didn't. That tape was taken from a different recording anyway, and Means gave it to Hugh to give to the police.


Oh I see.
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Hello there, I just completed case 3 and I must say some things got me quite confused here...

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First, it is said that Prof. Means' staff has been used to look like Phoenix's arm on the statue; that implies he wouldn't have it until the body is being moved at the center of the stage, so during the mock trial. However, at the very beginning of the case, we meet Prof. Means right before the mock trial, in the Lecture Hall... and he does have his staff at that moment. Does it mean the body would have been moved before the mock trial started (and also before Means' speech, because Juniper is inviting him to get ready to give his speech before Athena and Phoenix leave the place), but after the announcement inviting the students to get in the Lecture Hall? I don't know, the timing looks way too short for me. Not to say it simply contradicts the facts, as they're stated.

Another thing: what about the awl? Maybe I forgot that part, but did the blood actually belong to Courte? Was it the real murder weapon, or it's nothing but phony evidence (and the murder weapon is Prof. Means' staff/spear)? That piece of evidence seems to have been completely forgotten during the second day of the trial. :yogi:
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Hello there, I just completed case 3 and I must say some things got me quite confused here...

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First, it is said that Prof. Means' staff has been used to look like Phoenix's arm on the statue; that implies he wouldn't have it until the body is being moved at the center of the stage, so during the mock trial. However, at the very beginning of the case, we meet Prof. Means right before the mock trial, in the Lecture Hall... and he does have his staff at that moment. Does it mean the body would have been moved before the mock trial started (and also before Means' speech, because Juniper is inviting him to get ready to give his speech before Athena and Phoenix leave the place), but after the announcement inviting the students to get in the Lecture Hall? I don't know, the timing looks way too short for me. Not to say it simply contradicts the facts, as they're stated.
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...Is that bug... guaranteed to happen? ._.
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I think so. I've seen the error in my version as well, and it doesn't disappear no matter how many times I try to "reset". Let's just pretend he's holding a hologram.
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I think so. I've seen the error in my version as well, and it doesn't disappear no matter how many times I try to "reset". Let's just pretend he's holding a hologram.

What if.... he had a spare one?
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BonnyMono wrote:
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I think so. I've seen the error in my version as well, and it doesn't disappear no matter how many times I try to "reset". Let's just pretend he's holding a hologram.

What if.... he had a spare one?

That kind of makes it worse.
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Because that would mean he brought the murder weapon to the trial when he could have brought a clean staff/spear.

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A number of things are missing in the profiles like clicking on show and then it says "Nothing here yet." Anyway for Aristotle Means his name origin is easy. Aristotle was one of the most famous philosophers ever and as for his surname Means well it's simply "as a result of this" or "the translation of this is" or perhaps it's because he tells his students to win by any means necessary.
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Jinxie calls Fulbright a ghost, once she sees him.
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Does she call him a phantom in Japanese version?

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Jinxie calls Fulbright a ghost, once she sees him.
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Does she call him a phantom in Japanese version?

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Nah, she just literally calls him a ghost/monster. The term for "The Phantom" is a different one, since it's written using the kanji for "lost spirit".

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