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Author: | Bolt Storm [ Wed Jul 24, 2013 1:35 am ] |
Post subject: | Case 4 discussion thread (SPOILERS) |
This thread is for discussion of all things case four-related. Spoiler tags don't need to be used in this thread when discussing the basics of case four. They should be used when discussing earlier or later cases, or later parts of case four. |
Author: | Bolt Storm [ Wed Jul 24, 2013 3:20 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Case 4 discussion thread (SPOILERS) |
To get things started, case four is titled Turnabout up to the Stars (星になった逆転, The Turnabout that Became a Star). Spoiler: |
Author: | TheDimensionofTime [ Wed Jul 24, 2013 3:46 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Case 4 discussion thread (SPOILERS) |
Bolt Storm wrote: To get things started, case four is titled Turnabout up to the Stars (星になった逆転, The Turnabout that Became a Star). Spoiler: So it looks like we get to play as bandaged Apollo. That would look so cool in court! |
Author: | linkenski [ Wed Jul 24, 2013 10:19 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Case 4 discussion thread (SPOILERS) |
What happened to "Phoenix is the main character" He has, what, only two cases now? |
Author: | SuperAj3 [ Wed Jul 24, 2013 10:27 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Case 4 discussion thread (SPOILERS) |
linkenski wrote: What happened to "Phoenix is the main character" He has, what, only two cases now? At the moment, only 1 confirmed case, as Apollo gets 2 and 4, and Athena gets case 3. Unless It's like GS3-5 where you play as more than one character, It seems like It'll probably be an even spread. However with the Anime cutscenes, Phoenix may still be the main character? |
Author: | linkenski [ Wed Jul 24, 2013 10:31 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Case 4 discussion thread (SPOILERS) |
Spoilers has it that the structure is Phoenix-Apollo-Athena-Apollo/Phoenix, which makes only 4 cases. |
Author: | nearsightedwaddledee [ Wed Jul 24, 2013 12:14 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Case 4 discussion thread (SPOILERS) |
Bolt Storm wrote: To get things started, case four is titled Turnabout up to the Stars (星になった逆転, The Turnabout that Became a Star). Spoiler: If it starts in court, then.... Spoiler: |
Author: | capefeather [ Wed Jul 24, 2013 3:10 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Case 4 discussion thread (SPOILERS) |
Quote: To get things started, case four is titled Turnabout up to the Stars (星になった逆転, The Turnabout that Became a Star). Is the first name supposed to be your attempt at localization? It sounds kind of awkward... |
Author: | Bolt Storm [ Wed Jul 24, 2013 3:15 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Case 4 discussion thread (SPOILERS) |
capefeather wrote: Quote: To get things started, case four is titled Turnabout up to the Stars (星になった逆転, The Turnabout that Became a Star). Is the first name supposed to be your attempt at localization? It sounds kind of awkward... Erm, yeah. "Up to the Stars" is a fairly common turn of phrase, so it sounded more natural to me than The Turnabout that Became a Star. The latter is a more literal translation. |
Author: | Percei [ Wed Jul 24, 2013 3:29 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Case 4 discussion thread (SPOILERS) |
linkenski wrote: What happened to "Phoenix is the main character" He has, what, only two cases now? Contrary to popular belief, Apollo does still exist and was woven pretty heavily into Phoenix's storyline with GS4. It would be unfair to not give Apollo at least almost equal footing as Phoenix. |
Author: | DeMatador [ Wed Jul 24, 2013 4:16 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Case 4 discussion thread (SPOILERS) |
Percei wrote: linkenski wrote: What happened to "Phoenix is the main character" He has, what, only two cases now? Contrary to popular belief, Apollo does still exist and was woven pretty heavily into Phoenix's storyline with GS4. It would be unfair to not give Apollo at least almost equal footing as Phoenix. This. I thought Apollo would be treated as a simple sidekick, hope he at least gets 1/3 of the main-character-ness. This is looking more and more likely lately :D |
Author: | Percei [ Wed Jul 24, 2013 4:19 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Case 4 discussion thread (SPOILERS) |
DeMatador wrote: Percei wrote: linkenski wrote: What happened to "Phoenix is the main character" He has, what, only two cases now? Contrary to popular belief, Apollo does still exist and was woven pretty heavily into Phoenix's storyline with GS4. It would be unfair to not give Apollo at least almost equal footing as Phoenix. This. I thought Apollo would be treated as a simple sidekick, hope he at least gets 1/3 of the main-character-ness. This is looking more and more likely lately :D I will accept nothing less than 1/2... maybe 7/16 or 3/8, but Athena is not a protagonist, she is a plucky teenage sidekick. I'm not sure if it was confirmed or not, but I thought we only partially played as Athena in Case 3? |
Author: | Sligneris [ Wed Jul 24, 2013 6:20 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Case 4 discussion thread (SPOILERS) |
I can't believe I even opened this section >_< I don't want to be spoiled... We do play as Athena in Case 3 during most of the case and as Apollo during the mock trial. |
Author: | Percei [ Wed Jul 24, 2013 8:20 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Case 4 discussion thread (SPOILERS) |
Bolt Storm wrote: To get things started, case four is titled Turnabout up to the Stars (星になった逆転, The Turnabout that Became a Star). Spoiler: I will say, I think removing the "Up" would make it a less clunky title, like "Turnabout to the Stars" or something along those lines. |
Author: | Ash [ Thu Jul 25, 2013 1:22 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Case 4 discussion thread (SPOILERS) |
(I hope) at the final part of the case now. Spoiler: |
Author: | jaydrick0620 [ Thu Jul 25, 2013 1:57 pm ] |
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I'm calling it "The Celestial Turnabout" or something like that. Way simpler. Does it mean the same thing though |
Author: | Ash [ Thu Jul 25, 2013 2:40 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Case 4 discussion thread (SPOILERS) |
I am not going into details, but Turnabout to the Stars is alright. Or anything with stars. *cough* Just finished this case: Spoiler: |
Author: | AnsweringNOW [ Fri Jul 26, 2013 10:13 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Case 4 discussion thread (SPOILERS) |
So can anyone tell me the names of all the characters and the victim? Spoiler: |
Author: | DimensionalGuy [ Fri Jul 26, 2013 10:17 pm ] |
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Yep, That breakdown... Awesome... |
Author: | Ash [ Sat Jul 27, 2013 6:58 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Case 4 discussion thread (SPOILERS) |
AnsweringNOW wrote: So can anyone tell me the names of all the characters and the victim? Spoiler: Spoiler: |
Author: | AnsweringNOW [ Sat Jul 27, 2013 6:09 pm ] |
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Ash wrote: Spoiler: Spoiler: |
Author: | Ash [ Sat Jul 27, 2013 7:34 pm ] |
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AnsweringNOW wrote: Spoiler: Spoiler: |
Author: | AnsweringNOW [ Sat Jul 27, 2013 7:42 pm ] |
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Ah, okay. Thanks for the info. Spoiler: |
Author: | Ash [ Sat Jul 27, 2013 8:12 pm ] |
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AnsweringNOW wrote: Ah, okay. Thanks for the info. Spoiler: Spoiler: |
Author: | SeanHK [ Sun Jul 28, 2013 4:52 am ] |
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Just finished the case! : D Spoiler: |
Author: | Bolt Storm [ Sun Jul 28, 2013 5:44 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Case 4 discussion thread (SPOILERS) |
Up to day two of the trial. Spoiler: Want to play more, but I've already put unhealthy hours into this game today. Probably going to hold off 'till tomorrow to finish it. |
Author: | AnsweringNOW [ Sun Jul 28, 2013 8:15 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Case 4 discussion thread (SPOILERS) |
Spoiler: |
Author: | Blademaster_Orca [ Sun Jul 28, 2013 8:59 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Case 4 discussion thread (SPOILERS) |
AnsweringNOW wrote: Spoiler: Spoiler: |
Author: | Ash [ Sun Jul 28, 2013 10:23 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Case 4 discussion thread (SPOILERS) |
Regarding the ending: Spoiler: |
Author: | Bolt Storm [ Sun Jul 28, 2013 7:04 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Case 4 discussion thread (SPOILERS) |
Finished the case. Spoiler: |
Author: | Bad Player [ Mon Jul 29, 2013 3:22 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Case 4 discussion thread (SPOILERS) |
Bolt Storm wrote: Finished the case. Spoiler: Exactly the same for me. Spoiler: |
Author: | AnsweringNOW [ Wed Aug 14, 2013 5:24 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Case 4 discussion thread (SPOILERS) |
Spoiler: |
Author: | Rubia Ryu the Royal [ Wed Aug 14, 2013 7:03 am ] |
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AnsweringNOW wrote: Spoiler: Spoiler: Spoiler: more details |
Author: | Plankton614 [ Sat Aug 17, 2013 5:13 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Case 4 discussion thread (SPOILERS) |
Rubia Silve Ryu wrote: AnsweringNOW wrote: Spoiler: Spoiler: Spoiler: more details More specifically, Spoiler: "GS5-4/5" |
Author: | TheDimensionofTime [ Fri Sep 20, 2013 12:55 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Case 4 discussion thread (SPOILERS) |
Spoiler: |
Author: | FenrirDarkWolf [ Fri Sep 20, 2013 1:28 am ] |
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fourtrass wrote: Spoiler: Spoiler: |
Author: | TheDimensionofTime [ Sat Sep 21, 2013 1:07 am ] |
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Spoiler: |
Author: | Rubia Ryu the Royal [ Sat Sep 21, 2013 2:28 am ] |
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fourtrass wrote: Spoiler: Spoiler: |
Author: | Going for Miles [ Wed Dec 14, 2016 12:07 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Case 4 discussion thread (SPOILERS) |
It's quite hard to judge this case in its own rights considering it's pretty much a prelude to case five. However, I wouldn't want them merged because I find it would be overbearing, and with the split first beetween player character in case four, and then between defendants between four and five, it would feel way too shattered in one case. It started off nicely with both Apollo and Simon acting really weird. You immediately got the feeling that something was off. With Apollo being the narrator, though, it felt to me like you hardly got into his mind. Sure he was stern and focused and confused but that showed through his actions and never got an extra dimension in his thoughts, save for one single "(Clay...)". Maybe tjey wanted to avoid spoilers, but that could have been avoided if he was alone or had Phoenix with him in court. Even when the bomb is about to go off he just acts odd. His best friend was killed, so I could easily have bought him acting irrationally if it had shone through in his narration instead of "the truth can't end here!", because him going up in flames along with everything else in the courteoom would surely have brought the truth to light. As Athena said, "This is no time to be dramatic!". His heroic saving of Juniper didn't really seem to serve any function either, other than cheap drama and a reason to put him in bandages. For the PoV switch, I would have preferred Athena to be the player character rather than Phoenix, because I think she was way underused as a lawyer and overused as an assistant, and it would have been cool to see her thoughts when she was accused. Clay being dead was simply "NOT FAAAAAAAIIIIRRRR!". Considering we never even meet the guy alive, and that his murder is eventually overshadowed by the UR-incident, it mostly felt cruel and cheap, as it didn't really amount to much in the end. Maybe it'd feel different if Apollo had been thedefense and player character through the whole case. It could have some clever foreshadowing of future events, and most likely leave the case with a darker atmosphere that would make it stand out more. It's not that I don't like it, per se. It had an interesting feeling in the start, a dramatic bombing, Yuri is rather sweet and I really like Aura. Also the whole Fulbright thingwas intriguing. And there were quite a few funny lines. I just don't feel that it left me with much. Looking back at it after playing I mostly feel "yeah, sure". There wasn't any real satisfaction in it, nor something to really catch my interest. |
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