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Author: | Rubia Ryu the Royal [ Wed Nov 27, 2013 2:46 am ] |
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TheBlarghMan wrote: Spoiler: Spoiler: sumguy28 wrote: Also, minor nitpick: Spoiler: Spoiler: |
Author: | Bad Player [ Wed Nov 27, 2013 3:10 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Turnabout Reclaimed discussion thread |
Udgey also could've seen a picture of Pearl during 3-5, when she was missing and everyone was searching for her. |
Author: | BonnyMono [ Wed Nov 27, 2013 11:35 am ] |
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TheBlarghMan wrote: Finished the case last night. Spoiler: Spoiler: T-R |
Author: | Mr. Bear Jew [ Wed Nov 27, 2013 6:01 pm ] |
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Marlon Rimes is officially my favorite new character. |
Author: | zpattack12 [ Wed Nov 27, 2013 7:01 pm ] |
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It's not as if Pearl was never in the courtroom. Just because the game never presented them together, it doesn't mean there isn't the possibility that he saw her, for example, she could've been in the audience. |
Author: | QBnoYouko [ Wed Nov 27, 2013 7:19 pm ] |
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Did anyone see the "alternate" bad ending? Spoiler: |
Author: | Thane [ Wed Nov 27, 2013 7:52 pm ] |
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QBnoYouko wrote: Did anyone see the "alternate" bad ending? Spoiler: ... Still not that bad, really. At least not compared to one of the potential bad endings in the fifth case. |
Author: | TheIdioteque [ Thu Nov 28, 2013 4:09 am ] |
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Spoiler: |
Author: | QBnoYouko [ Fri Nov 29, 2013 12:04 am ] |
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Thane wrote: QBnoYouko wrote: Did anyone see the "alternate" bad ending? Spoiler: ... Still not that bad, really. At least not compared to one of the potential bad endings in the fifth case. |
Author: | SweetieBot [ Fri Nov 29, 2013 6:11 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Turnabout Reclaimed discussion thread |
Am I the only one who unlocked Phoenix' college pink sweater with this case? I never heard about a third costume for Phoenix. Also, a question. Spoiler: |
Author: | zpattack12 [ Fri Nov 29, 2013 6:15 pm ] |
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Don't worry, I got that costume too. |
Author: | Insanity Brit [ Fri Nov 29, 2013 6:26 pm ] |
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zpattack12 wrote: Don't worry, I got that costume too. Any screenies? |
Author: | zpattack12 [ Fri Nov 29, 2013 7:04 pm ] |
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Spoiler: Unlocked Costume |
Author: | Rubia Ryu the Royal [ Fri Nov 29, 2013 7:24 pm ] |
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SweetieBot wrote: Am I the only one who unlocked Phoenix' college pink sweater with this case? I never heard about a third costume for Phoenix. Also, a question. Spoiler: It was something that came out of finishing the Quiz DLC in the Japanese version. Now that they moved it to the end of Turnabout Reclaimed. Spoiler: |
Author: | defenses [ Fri Nov 29, 2013 10:07 pm ] |
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I didn't expect to like this case as much as I did. Although Sasha could get a little annoying, I really enjoyed Rimes and Dr. Crab. Even DePlume. This might have been the most fun I had playing AA5, although sometimes I rolled my eyes (the singing fantasy cutscenes? not my thing). I liked the twist about the killer--it wasn't who I expected until closer to the end--and the killer's reasoning. I was a little bummed at the revisualization result was because I figured it out a while ago. I was also very meh about cross examining Orla. I've seen people comment that since we cross examined Polly, why not an orca? But I don't agree. Spoiler: Azura and Sasha spoiler |
Author: | Bad Player [ Fri Nov 29, 2013 10:20 pm ] |
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defenses wrote: (the singing fantasy cutscenes? not my thing) Well, it would've been a really boring cutscene if they just stood there singing it, wouldn't it have been? :P Quote: I was also very meh about cross examining Orla. I've seen people comment that since we cross examined Polly, why not an orca? But I don't agree. Yeah, I sorta agree. Cross-examining an animal was a hilarious, one-time thing. There isn't that much of a need to repeat it. Plus, cross-examining a parrot is a lot different than cross-examining an orca, since a parrot can actually speak and "testify." |
Author: | Rubia Ryu the Royal [ Fri Nov 29, 2013 10:43 pm ] |
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Bad Player wrote: defenses wrote: (the singing fantasy cutscenes? not my thing) Well, it would've been a really boring cutscene if they just stood there singing it, wouldn't it have been? :P They should have included some fight scenes and sang "Fight Together" by Namie Amuro. Quote: Quote: I was also very meh about cross examining Orla. I've seen people comment that since we cross examined Polly, why not an orca? But I don't agree. Yeah, I sorta agree. Cross-examining an animal was a hilarious, one-time thing. There isn't that much of a need to repeat it. Plus, cross-examining a parrot is a lot different than cross-examining an orca, since a parrot can actually speak and "testify." While we didn't need to press every statement in Orla's testimony to make Blackquill's lid pop, I didn't care. I went a second round the first time I went through. It's always an endearing moment to find a smiling whale on the witness stand. Anyway, the important part came after those lines of questioning, though the game could have progressed after pressing any one statement, really. Still, I enjoyed reading Orla's testimony much more than Polly's, though Polly's is still up there among the best witness testimonies ever. Now, the only thing we need is the return of Missile into investigations. |
Author: | Insanity Brit [ Sat Nov 30, 2013 12:42 am ] |
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zpattack12 wrote: Spoiler: Unlocked Costume That looks just as ridiculous as before. Hooray for weird fashion in the 2020's |
Author: | FenrirDarkWolf [ Sat Nov 30, 2013 2:00 am ] |
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This case took Turnabout Academy's spot as my favorite case in the game. Though I'm disappointed that Trucy and Apollo basically didn't exist in the case, Trucy more than usual, but I was very happy that Pearl actually had some USE! Tbh, they should've made this case about all the returning characters though, with Nick as the defense attorney, and Trucy as his assistant, with Athena only helping for the Mood Matrix segments. Pearl's role was fine, though Klavier should've been the prosecutor, imo. Fulbright's role was minimal, so there would be no need to replace him. I loved the Ema, Franziska and Lisa Basil references in this game. |
Author: | SweetieBot [ Sat Nov 30, 2013 6:05 pm ] |
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Bad Player wrote: defenses wrote: (the singing fantasy cutscenes? not my thing) Well, it would've been a really boring cutscene if they just stood there singing it, wouldn't it have been? :P Quote: I was also very meh about cross examining Orla. I've seen people comment that since we cross examined Polly, why not an orca? But I don't agree. Yeah, I sorta agree. Cross-examining an animal was a hilarious, one-time thing. There isn't that much of a need to repeat it. Plus, cross-examining a parrot is a lot different than cross-examining an orca, since a parrot can actually speak and "testify." The thing is that Polly's testimony is actually decisive, because you prove the killer's connection to DL-6. But Orla's testimony is just useless. Spoiler: |
Author: | tvmadykid [ Sat Nov 30, 2013 7:25 pm ] |
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I just finished the DLC case. Spoiler: |
Author: | Scent [ Sat Nov 30, 2013 8:25 pm ] |
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I'm proud about this case because of TWO things: Spoiler: TR spoilers |
Author: | Miss All Sunday [ Mon Dec 02, 2013 3:58 am ] |
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Scent wrote: I'm proud about this case because of TWO things: Spoiler: TR spoilers 1. Yeah, it was nice that that wasn't the case. I was glad to be caught off guard. Spoiler: |
Author: | GyakutenGodot [ Wed Dec 04, 2013 4:48 am ] |
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FenrirDarkWolf wrote: Tbh, they should've made this case about all the returning characters though, with Nick as the defense attorney, and Trucy as his assistant, with Athena only helping for the Mood Matrix segments. Pearl's role was fine, though Klavier should've been the prosecutor, imo. Fulbright's role was minimal, so there would be no need to replace him. I loved the Ema, Franziska and Lisa Basil references in this game. I missed the Franziska and Lisa Basil references. Can you point it out to me, or at least describe what the reference was? |
Author: | Slezak [ Wed Dec 04, 2013 5:24 am ] |
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GyakutenGodot wrote: FenrirDarkWolf wrote: Tbh, they should've made this case about all the returning characters though, with Nick as the defense attorney, and Trucy as his assistant, with Athena only helping for the Mood Matrix segments. Pearl's role was fine, though Klavier should've been the prosecutor, imo. Fulbright's role was minimal, so there would be no need to replace him. I loved the Ema, Franziska and Lisa Basil references in this game. I missed the Franziska and Lisa Basil references. Can you point it out to me, or at least describe what the reference was? At one point, someone mentions that the defense should get 40 lashes with a fish and Phoenix comments that it'd be better than getting lashes from a whip. When learning what the TORPEDO system stands for, Phoenix comments that he "hopes it's not SuPer Admin Restricted Desktop Access pass-protected", a reference to the default phrase Lisa Basil gives when presenting evidence to her. |
Author: | tvmadykid [ Wed Dec 04, 2013 4:13 pm ] |
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Slezak wrote: GyakutenGodot wrote: FenrirDarkWolf wrote: Tbh, they should've made this case about all the returning characters though, with Nick as the defense attorney, and Trucy as his assistant, with Athena only helping for the Mood Matrix segments. Pearl's role was fine, though Klavier should've been the prosecutor, imo. Fulbright's role was minimal, so there would be no need to replace him. I loved the Ema, Franziska and Lisa Basil references in this game. I missed the Franziska and Lisa Basil references. Can you point it out to me, or at least describe what the reference was? At one point, someone mentions that the defense should get 40 lashes with a fish and Phoenix comments that it'd be better than getting lashes from a whip. When learning what the TORPEDO system stands for, Phoenix comments that he "hopes it's not SuPer Admin Restricted Desktop Access pass-protected", a reference to the default phrase Lisa Basil gives when presenting evidence to her. I seen that comment about the TORPEDO but I somehow didn't make the connection to Lisa Basil. I actually tried to figure out the joke behind it but nope. |
Author: | Psyche-locked [ Fri Dec 06, 2013 1:45 pm ] |
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Hopefully I'll finally be downloading this over the weekend. Have I heard right that it's only just over 100 blocks in size? That seems awfully small for an entire case, unless Capcom sneakily included most of its data in the main game download. |
Author: | Scent [ Fri Dec 06, 2013 3:12 pm ] |
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If there's anyone that doesn't have the time, money or both to try Turnabout Reclaimed, there are already some LPs of it over at YouTube. |
Author: | GyakutenGodot [ Sun Dec 08, 2013 5:04 am ] |
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WOW! This Case was really something else! Did not expect it to be so good. So some general comments.. Spoiler: Whole Case Spoilers One final non spoilery comment. I like how in this game the attorneys sometimes present theories that are wrong. This has happens a lot in all the cases I've played so far (up to Case 3.) I don't really remember this happening in previous AA games. Really adds to the plots of each case in my opinion. |
Author: | RollZero [ Mon Dec 09, 2013 7:48 am ] |
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Spoiler: case spoiler and case 5 spoiler Anyway that being said I really enjoyed this case, I just wish that there had been more cameos in this one, but I loved the couple of references. But I do agree, with all the music theme to this case Klaiver Gavin should had been the prosecutor, not only for that fact but also as stated before it would make sense for Phoenix to face off against him in a fair trail this time. Also would had been fun to see Ema if possible, they referred to her but that's all. I mean Spoiler: Case 5 spoiler So really it wouldn't have hurt to maybe have had Fulbright on the side maybe meet Wright at some point during the investigation but maybe Ema could had been the detective assigned to the case. You could have had a comedy bit with how maybe Ema couldn't stand him and his justice speeches, and he could claim he was helping her out in the name of justice and whatnot. I could just picture this scene Ema: We have to investigate this area scientifically! Fulbright: But we have justice on our side! Besides that's what the boys at forensics do their job for justice! Ema: Are you telling me I can't do my job? Go back to babysitting that inmate! Fulbright: *pout face* You mean you have no use for my justice? Ema: NO! Now get lost! Klaiver: Watch out for Fraulein, she has some dangerous claws when she draws them. Ema: YOU TOO! Oh hi Mr. Wright! *Drastic change to happy mode* You want to help me investigate this area? Klaiver: F-fraulein?! Why are you helping him and not me? Fulbright: Mr. Lawyer, how is your justice greater than ours? Pheonix: ^^; That's because I brought her a pack of snackoos... Athena: THAT'S why you've been carrying those around? |
Author: | Going for Miles [ Wed Dec 11, 2013 6:15 pm ] |
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Spoiler: Case |
Author: | WaitingforGodot [ Wed Feb 05, 2014 12:10 pm ] |
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Spoiler: The whole case |
Author: | WaitingforGodot [ Thu Feb 06, 2014 4:34 pm ] |
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GoingforMiles wrote: Spoiler: Case Spoiler: The bottom two are fine, but the rest... uh... eh... wha-at!? The top left: Proto Badger with a coopa-schnoopa-whattawhatta-turtle-shell. And those others are just plain disturbing. |
Author: | linkenski [ Wed Apr 02, 2014 8:27 pm ] |
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I finished the case last month. Overall it was a bit meh. I think the whole Orca concept was something they ended up doing because they thought it would make for a hilarious case... but the result was just kinda unfunny and dull. Aside from the humor though, I actually thought that, ironically, this case had the best crime motive out of all of them (Including 5-3 and 5-5)... but since it all had to involve that animal the impact was lost because of legal thing such as punishment in regards to animals and stuff. They tried to make the Orca live on the Parrot gag from 1-4 but it just made far less sense here, both for Phoenix and his motive for defending it with "all he got!" AndI thought the "in-your-face" references to how similar defending an Orca was to "a certain past case" (says Phoenix) was unnecessary. The singing is just.... ugh, who at Capcom wanted to see that crap become a reality!? For what purpose? Whose laughter?? |
Author: | JesusMonroe [ Wed Apr 02, 2014 9:06 pm ] |
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Yeah. I thought this case was a bit overrated, too. It's basically a better version of Turnabout Big Top Remember how you said the writing feels different on the newer games? This was the only case I noticed it in (and Turnabout Countdown. I can't explain it, but that felt like it was trying to be an AA case. Kind of like a fan game, where something is just off). I can't explain what I didn't like about it. There were certain segments where you exposed a contradiction in Marlon's testimony and he was like, "Oh, I guess that's right." WHAT? That's all you have to say? Plus, I didn't like the characters. I didn't like Norma (though I don't really understand what people mean when they say her breakdown was in bad taste? I'm not trying to add fuel to a fire. I was just indifferent about it), I didn't like Sasha (though I LOVE the pirate theme she had), and I thought Marlon was ok. I was also indifferent about Crab. I know he's popular so I might have to replay parts of the case... What I DID like about the case is that it's the "hardest" case in Dual Destinies (and the only one where I got parts of the "Thought Route" wrong), I liked Pearl's reappearance and it didn't feel forced to me, I was actually surprised by the killer, I liked his motive, and it was pretty funny at parts |
Author: | linkenski [ Fri Apr 04, 2014 10:59 pm ] |
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What? In my case, I thought every single bit of the Thought-Route segment was just a reaffirmation of what had already been told throughout the case. I thought every single answer was obvious, but I might just have had the right hunch or something. But yeah I agree too about most stuff you said JesusMonroe, and ESPECIALLY about it being Big Top 2.0. The culprit's actions seemed like a blatant carbon-copy of Acro's to me (with few tweaks, but that's a given). |
Author: | JesusMonroe [ Fri Apr 04, 2014 11:24 pm ] |
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The Thought Route was usually that but the two orcas thing completely blindsided me. I was fooled. By the way, does anyone know why they lied about their being two orcas in the first place (before Azura died)? And linkenski, I'm kind of confused. I was just looking at older posts on this thread and the ones on the first page make it seem like you played the case then but now you're saying that you finished it a month ago. Are there two different people using your account? |
Author: | Rubia Ryu the Royal [ Sat Apr 05, 2014 1:59 am ] |
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JesusMonroe wrote: The Thought Route was usually that but the two orcas thing completely blindsided me. I was fooled. By the way, does anyone know why they lied about their being two orcas in the first place (before Azura died)? There was one orca on the show, and they had to get rid of it because the Dangerous Animal Control Association (or something) thought it killed someone. Of course, the public hadn't really caught on that there was a killing at all (even though a certain novelist declared it as such), so they kept the other one in to keep the show going. As to why they didn't just announce to the world that one of their members died of a heart attack, I have no idea why. Maybe it's so that there can be a DLC case about Nick defending an orca? |
Author: | JesusMonroe [ Sat Apr 05, 2014 2:09 am ] |
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Rubia Silve Ryu wrote: There was one orca on the show, and they had to get rid of it because the Dangerous Animal Control Association (or something) thought it killed someone. Of course, the public hadn't really caught on that there was a killing at all (even though a certain novelist declared it as such), so they kept the other one in to keep the show going. As to why they didn't just announce to the world that one of their members died of a heart attack, I have no idea why. Maybe it's so that there can be a DLC case about Nick defending an orca? That's not really what I meant. There were two orcas named Ora and Orla. They washed up on the shore and Shipley rescued them. Marlon didn't know there were two orcas but Shipley, Buckler, and Crab did. Azura was doing a show and died of a heart attack. This is where it gets confusing for me. Crab didn't know about Azura's heart condition, but I'm assuming that Shipley did because that's the reason he didn't want Sasha participating in the Redstache show. For some reason, even though Crab and Shipley moved Ora to another aquarium and are keeping her alive, Shipley never tells Crab that Ora never killed anyone. Sasha assumes that Ora is put down My issue is, when Ora and Orla were first beached, why didn't Shipshape advertise saying, "Come to our show! We have two orcas!" They were keeping it a secret so that when it does look like Azura is killed, everybody assumes an orca was never put down (and they're right, but Sasha does think one was put down) |
Author: | Rubia Ryu the Royal [ Sat Apr 05, 2014 3:23 am ] |
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I seem to recall there was mention of Orla's condition, being the smaller and weaker of the two sisters. Ora wanted to repay Shipley's kindness with her stellar performance, so she got the role. Orla was left as reserve until Ora was to be removed. As to why Shipley didn't tell Crab, who helped him move the orca in the first place... well, I dunno. He didn't ask? |
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