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His damage sprites were ugly enough in AJ, but even worse in DD I think. And that particularly, I really don't get what's with the mouth.
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His damage sprites were ugly enough in AJ, but even worse in DD I think. And that particularly, I really don't get what's with the mouth.


The unnatural curve on the top of his mouth that makes his upper lip look like scythe.
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Heh.. also on the topic of weird sprite frames, did this one bother anyone else?
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Not more than the one in AJ, really.

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His damage sprites were ugly enough in AJ, but even worse in DD I think. And that particularly, I really don't get what's with the mouth.


Maybe he's secretly a monkey.
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Sierra Undoubtedly, it seems like it.

My jaw hurts from trying to mimic that face... obviously without much success.

On another note, doesn't his forehead look a bit... wait for it... small?
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I have to admit while I was initially bugged about Apollo's damage sprite, I think it shows what kind of character he is pretty nicely, ESPECIALLY in that one frame where he bites his upper lip while his mouth is open. It's goofy and dorky looking, and that's totally how he is portrayed, and how he's meant to be like.
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I have to admit while I was initially bugged about Apollo's damage sprite, I think it shows what kind of character he is pretty nicely, ESPECIALLY in that one frame where he bites his upper lip while his mouth is open. It's goofy and dorky looking, and that's totally how he is portrayed, and how he's meant to be like.


You...you can do that? :ron: You can bite your lip when your mouth is open? :ron:
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LateSummer wrote:
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I have to admit while I was initially bugged about Apollo's damage sprite, I think it shows what kind of character he is pretty nicely, ESPECIALLY in that one frame where he bites his upper lip while his mouth is open. It's goofy and dorky looking, and that's totally how he is portrayed, and how he's meant to be like.


You...you can do that? :ron: You can bite your lip when your mouth is open? :ron:


I can but only for a tiny opening nothing like Apollos freakmouth.
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Pierre wrote:
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I have to admit while I was initially bugged about Apollo's damage sprite, I think it shows what kind of character he is pretty nicely, ESPECIALLY in that one frame where he bites his upper lip while his mouth is open. It's goofy and dorky looking, and that's totally how he is portrayed, and how he's meant to be like.


You...you can do that? :ron: You can bite your lip when your mouth is open? :ron:


I can but only for a tiny opening nothing like Apollos freakmouth.

Are you talking about this?
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I don't see this "biting the upper lip while the mouth is open" in this...
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Are you talking about this?
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I don't see this "biting the upper lip while the mouth is open" in this...


I never thought about it that way, bit I could see how the asymmetry makes it look like he's biting the top lip, or even biting on one side and not the other. Either way, it just looks weird.
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I was never really bothered by this face. I can't really explain it, but it just seems like it makes sense to me.
It's like he's taken aback and... gah, no, I can't put it into words.

Anyway, for that to look like he's biting his upper lip, we actually need see the teeth or the lower lip going towards his upper lip, but we don't see that there. It's just an open mouth.
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But... to my knowledge... you can't... um bite unless your teeth are together? And uh... you can't do that with your mouth open... *fidgets uncomfortably in seat* :payne:
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But... to my knowledge... you can't... um bite unless your teeth are together? And uh... you can't do that with your mouth open... *fidgets uncomfortably in seat* :payne:


My thoughts excactly. It's a contradiction of facts. Besides, I use to bite one side of my upper lip and it looks nothing like that.
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LateSummer wrote:
Heh.. also on the topic of weird sprite frames, did this one bother anyone else?
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I'm pretty sure that was bothering when he was just a sprite.

But in 3D....no...
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I'm pretty sure that was bothering when he was just a sprite.


For some reason that sounded really sweet. Like "Oh, look at these old photos from when Apollo was just a sprite. How fast they grow up" :acro:
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GoingforMiles wrote:
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But... to my knowledge... you can't... um bite unless your teeth are together? And uh... you can't do that with your mouth open... *fidgets uncomfortably in seat* :payne:


My thoughts excactly. It's a contradiction of facts. Besides, I use to bite one side of my upper lip and it looks nothing like that.

Well it's obviously cariactured for starters, but I had a friend once who did something similar to Apollo and it is indeed quite possible, but of course nobody has a skin that is so elastic as Apollo's. Wow we're really getting into the details now, LOL! (Now start practicing! You'll see what I mean ^_^)
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Hahahaha! Apollo and his elastic skin... Oh I will practice, trust me (mostly because I'd really like to see how Apollo's damage sprites would look like in real life)
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GoingforMiles wrote:
Hahahaha! Apollo and his elastic skin... Oh I will practice, trust me (mostly because I'd really like to see how Apollo's damage sprites would look like in real life)


I opened my webcam to practice, but luckily it didn't go well. My face is too... static. Also, when I googled "Apollo damage sprites" your avatar came up. As if I didn't associate you, yes, you, with Apollo's damage face already. :damon: (Have you mentioned it a lot of times or is my mind playing tricks on me?)
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Well, that's an honour. Or... um... no.
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Well, that's an honour. Or... um... no.


It should be!
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Considering those sprites were one (or rather three) of the things that put me off him in the beginning, I'm not sure.
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Great, now you have me practicing it...

One thing I did like regarding that sprite is one time when Apollo is confident, then Blackquill objects and you can kind of see him do that movement from behind the Objection bubble. :apollo:
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Yess - everyone do the Apollo! :apollo: Or at least try... The eyebrows are the hardest for me. And what I said about that being worse in DD than in AJ - scratch that. Just forget it. I was so wrong.
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GoingforMiles wrote:
Yess - everyone do the Apollo! :apollo: Or at least try... The eyebrows are the hardest for me. And what I said about that being worse in DD than in AJ - scratch that. Just forget it. I was so wrong.


Yes, the eyebrows! Those are definitely the hardest (and I don't have much eyebrows to begin with being a quite thin-eyebrowed blondie and all) - he looks angry, shocked and disgusted at once and I can't do the angry-part, I mostly look disgusted.
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Considering those sprites were one (or rather three) of the things that put me off him in the beginning, I'm not sure.


Well... It might actually be because I knew about your aversion to them in the first place, as you wrote lenghty about (your initial aversion, not me knowing about it), and my subconscious made me associate them with you. Hm.

Edit: Ah, double post! Apollo-gies! :sadshoe: I was going to copy-past and shit went downhill in a quite dramatical fashion. :zaviaar: Or something.
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I'm playing through the first game again, otherwise I don't think I would have remembered this -

But Will Powers' forward-facing "worry" face is really gross.

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Well, if we're bringing the original game back into this...this picture is probably the worst representation of Phoenix in the entire series

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Well, if we're bringing the original game back into this...this picture is probably the worst representation of Phoenix in the entire series

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I've just been waiting for a time to bring this up

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Unpopular opinion apparently, but I actually really like Athena's expressions and I thought that Apollo's damage animations in AJ were really adorable.

Granted, Apollo's and Phoenix's damage sprites DID NOT translate well into 3D and I wish they would have changed them. They disgust me.

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I've just been waiting for a time to bring this up

I've always hated a lot of the art that's showed up in the original games. If it doesn't look outright weird, then it just looks kind of stiff. So personally, I'm grateful for the anime cutscenes, since they basically got rid of those.

As for who's actually ugly? Not fond of Ted Tonate or Florent L'Belle, but I thought that them being hideous was kind of the point. Also, Sol Starbuck looked a little weird to me, but it was tolerable.

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The Phantom's scared Phoenix mask made me uncomfortable. I'm pretty sure I actually threw my 3DS across the room when I first saw it...


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The whole breakdown made me uncomfortable. More the moves than the faces, actually.
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Unpopular opinion apparently, but I actually really like Athena's expressions and I thought that Apollo's damage animations in AJ were really adorable.

Granted, Apollo's and Phoenix's damage sprites DID NOT translate well into 3D and I wish they would have changed them. They disgust me.

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Well, if we're bringing the original game back into this...this picture is probably the worst representation of Phoenix in the entire series

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I've just been waiting for a time to bring this up

I've always hated a lot of the art that's showed up in the original games. If it doesn't look outright weird, then it just looks kind of stiff. So personally, I'm grateful for the anime cutscenes, since they basically got rid of those.

As for who's actually ugly? Not fond of Ted Tonate or Florent L'Belle, but I thought that them being hideous was kind of the point. Also, Sol Starbuck looked a little weird to me, but it was tolerable.

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The Phantom's scared Phoenix mask made me uncomfortable. I'm pretty sure I actually threw my 3DS across the room when I first saw it...


BUT NOTHING WILL EVER TOP SPARK BRUSHEL.


I was more freaked out by
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Phantom HAD PHOENIX'S FACE AND WAS DOING HIS OWN TURNABOUT. I literally was staring bug-eyed at my screen in horror at that.

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I think it's time to get back to Apollo's damage sprites. I tried to... um, just see for yourself. I apollogize for any harm this may cause anyone.

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I think it's time to get back to Apollo's damage sprites. I tried to... um, just see for yourself. I apollogize for any harm this may cause anyone.

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^I think I figured his mouth out! With a little help from my face and a mirror.


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Nothing.
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I congratulate you, Miles. You captured the essense excellently.
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That's a pretty dumb face XD
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Holy turd on a stick, that's beautiful... your art, I mean. Have you tried rendering the silly expressions of other characters in a realistic light, GFM? I'd love to see how angry Oldbag would look.

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Hahaha, thanks! Actually not, that was the first silly I tried to do. x)

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I feel like this needs to be brought up.
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I feel like this needs to be brought up.
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I really wish I had a software that could put faces over stuff like that. Doing random stuff like that would probably waste about 50% of my day...
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