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Author: | Broocevelt [ Thu Jul 16, 2015 3:20 pm ] |
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Even though I haven't played the game myself (but I have seen Bolt's streams), I can safely say I'm part of the many people who have been following Dai Gyakuten Saiban's OST most closely, listening to it whenever I have the opportunity to. Now that Bolt has uploaded the entire soundtrack with the official tracklisting translated (thanks Rubia Ryu for that too!) we can all discuss it without having workaround names or anything of the sort, or missing tracks for that matter. Please use spoiler tags if you want to comment on specific spoilers related to a track. Spoiler tags are also recommended if you are going to list several tracks, for the sake of navigability -------------------- I'd like to start by saying that, in my opinion, this is the best soundtrack we've got in the entire Ace Attorney series. Granted, it's not fair to judge it and compare it to the rest because of its acoustic instrumentation, but I still believe composition-wise we've got lots of fresh air here and there and in general the tracks make their point much better than the other games. I guess I could start by listing the tracks that made an impact on me the most. Note: I'm separating non-character and character tracks because the later can't really be compared to the previous ones in the series. Non-character tracks Spoiler: Character tracks Spoiler: What about my biggest let-downs? Huh, it's sad because the OST has a couple... Spoiler: Well, there we go! What are your favourite tracks? What did you think of the soundtrack? |
Author: | mujie [ Thu Jul 16, 2015 5:08 pm ] |
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Is it just me or do the tracks kind of have a professor-layton-vibe to them? But I like them. I think I'll like them better in-game though. Spoiler: Maybe it's the different instruments? I'm not sure. I keep expecting to hear the layton theme from it? |
Author: | shippersdreamer [ Thu Jul 16, 2015 8:53 pm ] |
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I'm not entirely sure if the tracks are spoilers but well. What is everyone's opinions on the two suspense themes? |
Author: | Murasaki [ Fri Jul 17, 2015 4:12 pm ] |
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I don't know, I think I'm not a big fan of Kitagawa's style. I didn't like the PLvsAA soundtrack that much and while this one seems better, it's still...kinda bland? IDK, it's a matter of taste, really. Most of the songs are pleasant, but for the time being, I can't pick one that really stands out, aside from Sherlock's Theme, maybe |
Author: | Broocevelt [ Fri Jul 17, 2015 7:57 pm ] |
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shippersdreamer wrote: I'm not entirely sure if the tracks are spoilers but well. What is everyone's opinions on the two suspense themes? To be honest, they didn't make any kind of impact on me, mostly because the suspense tracks are supposed not to take any kind of spotlight and stay kind of bland and constant throughout. However I do find it rather nice that there are two suspense themes with different intensities, one that's more calm like "what do I do now?", and the other one which evokes a sense of urgency, more like "alright, if I don't make a move right now, I might actually lose this case. Think think think..." |
Author: | UltrawaveStudios [ Fri Jul 17, 2015 9:14 pm ] |
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Spoiler: Case 5 related, but not really spoilers idk |
Author: | JesusMonroe [ Fri Jul 17, 2015 10:12 pm ] |
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I only listened to the songs in the OP (besides the credits theme) so I may eat these words but I have to say that I'm not a fan. I loved PLvAA's soundtrack but this feels like an almost inferior, carbon copy For example, Van Zieks theme just sounds like this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Al3xwORC28 I don't think it can hold a candle to Blackquill's or Barnham's theme anyway. Maybe it's better in context The Objection! theme is pretty stellar. I think it sounds more like a pursuit theme than the pursuit theme (which might be my least favorite in the series. I'll also mention here that I looked up the victory theme and I really, really hate it). The Prosector's theme, as I said, is also pretty poor Susato's theme is pretty amazing. Might be an all-time favorite (I keep a list of my 50 favorite AA songs so this might bump one off). I can actually almost see it as a victory theme. Sherlock's theme is also really good Everything else I've heard is pretty bland |
Author: | Bad Player [ Fri Jul 17, 2015 10:23 pm ] |
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JesusMonroe wrote: For example, Van Zieks theme just sounds like this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Al3xwORC28 Well, it's similar instrumentation (which isn't that surprising, considering both are going for that Gothic English vibe). I like it, especially in game, since it ends up playing out kinda similar to a suspense theme (especially AJ's). ...Also I don't think this is a popular opinion but I thought Blackquill's theme suuuuuuuuuuuuucked |
Author: | JesusMonroe [ Fri Jul 17, 2015 10:29 pm ] |
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Do you think Sealed or Barok's theme sounds like the AJ suspense theme? And yeah I don't know whether or not Blackquill's theme is popular. I just always liked it and I thought he and Barnham were the best comparisons (because one seems similar to Barok and the other is PLvAA) |
Author: | shippersdreamer [ Fri Jul 17, 2015 10:31 pm ] |
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JesusMonroe wrote: Do you think Sealed or Barok's theme sounds like the AJ suspense theme? And yeah I don't know whether or not Blackquill's theme is popular. I just always liked it and I thought he and Barnham were the best comparisons (because one seems similar to Barok and the other is PLvAA) Between the three, I'd have to say Barnham's is best while Simon's is weakest. Barok's theme is good but it's not the greatest. |
Author: | Bad Player [ Fri Jul 17, 2015 11:06 pm ] |
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JesusMonroe wrote: Do you think Sealed or Barok's theme sounds like the AJ suspense theme? Not at all, but they give me the same feeling, especially in-game xP Also, I went and listened to which song is Susato's theme... and I think they actually do use it as the victory theme. |
Author: | Broocevelt [ Sat Jul 18, 2015 12:20 am ] |
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JesusMonroe wrote: I only listened to the songs in the OP (besides the credits theme) so I may eat these words but I have to say that I'm not a fan. I loved PLvAA's soundtrack but this feels like an almost inferior, carbon copy I beg to differ, specially because PLvAA's OST was a bit more focused on Brass wind instruments, if I recall correctly, while this one is a bit more focused on strings and more particular instruments. True, they're both acoustic, made to evoke another era, and made by the same composer, but that's a bit of a stretch in my opinion. Actually, I think PLvAA had a much wider selection of bland songs, and that seems to be the consensus between the few composers in AAO xP As all games, it had its gems (that Announce the Truth and Barnham's theme, overwhelmingly good). But in general... Eh, I feel DGS is vastly superior and experiments way more. EDIT: Also, I agree with shippersdream PoV. Simon's not bad, but comparatively it's not enough to face Baroque's, and specially Barnham's, not by a long shot. EDIT2: Oh, also, the victory themes. Yeah, it's not the strongest I guess, I was like "eh, I guess that's alright. Let's move on" when I first listened to it, but at least it's not as bad as some others in the series. ( I'm looking at you T&T and DD ) |
Author: | Broocevelt [ Sun Jul 26, 2015 2:29 pm ] |
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So, I enjoy overanalyzing tracks a whole lot. Because of that, I'd like to give shine a tiny spotlight on 2-10 Closing Argument. (The discussion is not spoilery if you know how Closing Arguments work) Spoiler: I'm probably grasping at straws since maybe this was not the intended effect, but I just love how this particular track can get this precise interpretation. I love it! |
Author: | JesusMonroe [ Tue Jul 28, 2015 1:51 am ] |
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Broocevelt wrote: JesusMonroe wrote: I only listened to the songs in the OP (besides the credits theme) so I may eat these words but I have to say that I'm not a fan. I loved PLvAA's soundtrack but this feels like an almost inferior, carbon copy I beg to differ, specially because PLvAA's OST was a bit more focused on Brass wind instruments, if I recall correctly, while this one is a bit more focused on strings and more particular instruments. True, they're both acoustic, made to evoke another era, and made by the same composer, but that's a bit of a stretch in my opinion. Actually, I think PLvAA had a much wider selection of bland songs, and that seems to be the consensus between the few composers in AAO xP As all games, it had its gems (that Announce the Truth and Barnham's theme, overwhelmingly good). But in general... Eh, I feel DGS is vastly superior and experiments way more. EDIT: Also, I agree with shippersdream PoV. Simon's not bad, but comparatively it's not enough to face Baroque's, and specially Barnham's, not by a long shot. EDIT2: Oh, also, the victory themes. Yeah, it's not the strongest I guess, I was like "eh, I guess that's alright. Let's move on" when I first listened to it, but at least it's not as bad as some others in the series. ( I'm looking at you T&T and DD ) PLvAA is definitely the soundtrack with the most bland songs but it's good songs are more than fantastic (and I think the best soundtrack in the series is GK2--it doesn't have a single song I dislike and the only one that I think is pretty meh is "Trifle of Fate." Everything else I either like or love) All the songs I'm hearing from DGS seem a little bland. If some composers on AAO feel differently, cool. I'm just not feeling many of these. I'm sure they'll improve with context but I've listened to some soundtracks of AA before I've played the respective games and I've never had an opinion this negative. I'm not even trying to hate it. There's nothing I'd want more than another great OST to listen to I don't think it's a bad soundtrack, but I do think it's a bad AA soundtrack. Even JFA had a lot of great songs (Turnabout Sisters 2002, Pearl's theme, Investigation Middle, Steel Samurai Ballad, etc) I don't really like Barok's theme at all, for more reasons than thinking it sounds like "Sealed" (and the fact that I just don't like it). A big reason is that it doesn't sound like it fits a character. It honestly sounds more like a "Confess the Truth" theme to me. Say what you will about Blackquill's theme, but if I heard it without context I'd immediately start forming a character and someone like Blackquill would appear (that's exactly what happened when I first started listening to bits of DD's soundtrack actually). Barok's theme can kind of fit with almost anyone. It could be Blackquill's, Franziska's, Manfred's, Barnham's...it wouldn't make much of a difference (and I'm not saying the song would appear in the respective games, I'm saying the character would appear in DGS with this song if that makes sense) T&T's victory theme is the second strongest of the main series to me (with AJ being the strongest) while DD's is the weakest by far. I still don't think DD's is that bad, though, and it does fit with the endings of DD's cases. DGS' is really boring. I felt almost nothing, not to mention that it also sounds a little too similar to PW's victory theme (For the record, I think the two Solution! themes from the GK series are two of the strongest tracks from either series. I don't really know which one I prefer since "Splendid Deduction" is better throughout but "Calm Moment" has a way better beginning) |
Author: | Loziano [ Wed Jul 29, 2015 2:30 am ] |
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Although I've yet to play the game, I've listened to the entire OST. I love it, and if I had to pick a few favorites, they would be: 1-09 Asougi Kazuma ~ Messenger Samurai 1-20 Mikotoba Susato ~ The Flower Blooming in the New World 2-02 Sherlock Holmes ~ The Great Detective of the Foggy City I'd love to expound upon my choices, but I don't think I could accurately articulate my point because of my inability to identify the individual instruments correctly. shippersdreamer wrote: Between the three, I'd have to say Barnham's is best while Simon's is weakest. Barok's theme is good but it's not the greatest. Also, I too agree with this opinion. I don't think Simon's theme is bad, but simply weaker than the others. |
Author: | Bolt Storm [ Thu Jul 30, 2015 3:14 am ] |
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The OST's been removed from YouTube, as a heads up. Sorry! (Strangely enough, Japanese videos of the OST still seem to be running. You'd think those'd be the ones the Capcom ninjas would go for...) |
Author: | Rubia Ryu the Royal [ Thu Jul 30, 2015 6:44 am ] |
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Well, it is technically easier for a search engine like Google to pick out the game title in English romanization, rather than in the original characters. Where will you upload them next? Maybe Soundcloud? It was made for soundtracks. Well, when in doubt, you could always switch up the name to something not copyrighted... like "Sherlock Holmes' Trick-Happy Trifles". And we'll all know what you mean. :) |
Author: | JesusMonroe [ Thu Jul 30, 2015 5:16 pm ] |
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Bolt Storm wrote: The OST's been removed from YouTube, as a heads up. Sorry! (Strangely enough, Japanese videos of the OST still seem to be running. You'd think those'd be the ones the Capcom ninjas would go for...) Why? And why did they remove just this game? |
Author: | Cesar Zero [ Thu Jul 30, 2015 6:50 pm ] |
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Damn,what's up with Capcom removing stuff related to this game?! They weren't as annoying when people uploaded GS5 or PLvsAA videos after it's release. |
Author: | luck [ Thu Jul 30, 2015 7:09 pm ] |
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Maybe it's a sign that they've finally decided to localize the game. Yeah, I'm a plus side guy. |
Author: | JesusMonroe [ Thu Jul 30, 2015 7:29 pm ] |
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I don't think I've ever seen VGM flagged and removed Fuckin' Capcom... |
Author: | Chekhov MacGuffin [ Thu Jul 30, 2015 10:45 pm ] |
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Yeah, I think it is weird they are so aggressive. Obviously they must think it's going to impact sales (or ruin something for people who play the game). However, with the reviews of Dai Gyakuten being so split (more than any of their other AA titles), I would definitely check it out further before committing to a purchase. The lack of actual gameplay samples beyond the demo is definitely a negative for me as a consumer. Had I not watched a playthrough and only read the reviews, I don't think I would have had much confidence in the game tbh. |
Author: | Calios [ Sat Aug 01, 2015 11:45 pm ] |
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What's more interesting is the videos that they decided to remove, in my case it was the breakdown and Case 5 videos, some were left untouched by Capcom. As for the person who filed for the copyright sweep and removals across Youtube, it was one of the heads at Capcom specifically, particularly this guy. Hiroshi Yasuda Capital Market Promotion Public Interest (January 2014-present) So it raises some curiosity as to why things went as they did. |
Author: | Chekhov MacGuffin [ Mon Aug 10, 2015 1:25 am ] |
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Is Detective |
Author: | papasbuddy [ Mon Aug 10, 2015 3:07 am ] |
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Chekhov MacGuffin wrote: Is Detective I Have to Agree a nice remix to a somewhat familiar song |
Author: | Mayu Igiyooki [ Sun Sep 06, 2015 4:03 pm ] |
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Spoiler: Delete this post, please. |
Author: | linkenski [ Mon Oct 12, 2015 12:18 am ] |
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Bad Player wrote: JesusMonroe wrote: For example, Van Zieks theme just sounds like this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Al3xwORC28 Well, it's similar instrumentation (which isn't that surprising, considering both are going for that Gothic English vibe). I like it, especially in game, since it ends up playing out kinda similar to a suspense theme (especially AJ's). ...Also I don't think this is a popular opinion but I thought Blackquill's theme suuuuuuuuuuuuucked Considering it was one of the highlights of AA5's OST to me and several others I've spoken to, I think you're in the minority, yes. What was so bad about it? It sounded threatening and boss-like and it had the clings and clangs of chains as percussive elements in the background. It was perfect IMO. By the way. i fucking love all of the OST I've heard so far. The new suspense themes are great and it's good to have a replacement for the usual one, that still retains the vibe but isn't just a re-instrumentation of the same song. I love the cross-examination, top-3 material right after PWAA and PLvPWAA (Really liked DD's too, though) and boy is the joint reasoning music catching as well! I'm super excited to somehow play this in the future and discover the rest for myself and meanwhile, hopefully AA6 has a lot going for its score as well. I've already heard good things from it! |
Author: | mujie [ Mon Nov 23, 2015 1:51 pm ] |
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I was wrong. Sure, the OST sounds specifically like Professor Layton's, but after watching Dowolf's playthrough, it really suits the atmosphere. |
Author: | Apollo4Justice [ Mon Oct 24, 2016 1:49 am ] |
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papasbuddy wrote: Chekhov MacGuffin wrote: Is Detective I Have to Agree a nice remix to a somewhat familiar song The song you might be thinking of is Investigation ~ Opening 2001. The beginning of Gregson's theme is very similar. |
Author: | Apollo4Justice [ Mon Oct 24, 2016 1:54 am ] |
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Ths thread is probably completely dead by now but I'll ask anyways. Does anyone know if there are official orchestral endings to the songs on the OST, similar to what's been done with Dual Destinies? |
Author: | Southern Corn [ Tue Oct 25, 2016 2:53 pm ] |
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IT'S fantastic. So many new things done in this game,and it's so refreshing in so many ways. |
Author: | Miles Morales [ Thu Dec 01, 2016 4:40 am ] |
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My Favorite Tracks Asougi Kazuma ~ Samurai with a mission Mikotoba Susato ~ A Blooming Flower In The New World Joint Reasoning (Type A) |
Author: | SarcasticEdgeworth [ Thu Apr 27, 2017 8:16 pm ] |
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This is probably my favourite OST in the series. And I love Barok's theme - in my opinion it is the best song in the series. |
Author: | Rubia Ryu the Royal [ Wed Jun 14, 2017 5:08 am ] |
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Even though I'm looking forward to the sequel's new tunes, this OST is still my jam. Asougi's theme is best character theme, period. It still brings tears to my eyes and my heart pumping with pride. Spoiler: DGS1-2 |
Author: | Thunder84 [ Sun Jul 23, 2017 12:06 am ] |
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Not sure if this is the right place to ask this, but whatever. What's the music quality like in the 3DS demo? I know from the web demo most of the tracks were mono IIRC. At the very least, they weren't high quality. And if the 3DS demo music is higher quality, are there any known rips of it yet? |
Author: | Bramimond [ Sun Jul 23, 2017 5:56 am ] |
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Both of the Closing Suites: End of the Adventure and the Turnabout Never Ends. They're just so beautifully composed, I get hyped up every time I listen to them Thunder84 wrote: Not sure if this is the right place to ask this, but whatever. What's the music quality like in the 3DS demo? I know from the web demo most of the tracks were mono IIRC. At the very least, they weren't high quality. And if the 3DS demo music is higher quality, are there any known rips of it yet? There's looped tracks on Youtube, but they're ripped from the web demo...so I don't think they're exactly what you're looking for. Might have to wait for the game to release. |
Author: | Thunder84 [ Mon Jul 24, 2017 3:25 am ] |
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Bramimond wrote: Thunder84 wrote: Not sure if this is the right place to ask this, but whatever. What's the music quality like in the 3DS demo? I know from the web demo most of the tracks were mono IIRC. At the very least, they weren't high quality. And if the 3DS demo music is higher quality, are there any known rips of it yet? There's looped tracks on Youtube, but they're ripped from the web demo...so I don't think they're exactly what you're looking for. Might have to wait for the game to release. Yeah, those were the ones I was talking about. I was just curious to see if anyone ripped the objection music from the 3DS demo, as I'm assuming it has higher quality music in it. Hell, I haven't even found a playthrough of the 3DS demo on Youtube. |
Author: | Phantomanon [ Tue Jul 25, 2017 1:39 pm ] |
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Thunder84 wrote: Bramimond wrote: Thunder84 wrote: Not sure if this is the right place to ask this, but whatever. What's the music quality like in the 3DS demo? I know from the web demo most of the tracks were mono IIRC. At the very least, they weren't high quality. And if the 3DS demo music is higher quality, are there any known rips of it yet? There's looped tracks on Youtube, but they're ripped from the web demo...so I don't think they're exactly what you're looking for. Might have to wait for the game to release. Yeah, those were the ones I was talking about. I was just curious to see if anyone ripped the objection music from the 3DS demo, as I'm assuming it has higher quality music in it. Hell, I haven't even found a playthrough of the 3DS demo on Youtube. Someone asking for DGS2 demo OST rips? https://my.mixtape.moe/snjciu.7z Ripped straight from the 3DS demo. |
Author: | Thunder84 [ Tue Jul 25, 2017 5:50 pm ] |
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