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And super-trivia time because this is a topic that interests me: The most common theory is that -maru is a variation of the older -maro suffix, which has the meaning of 'I' (1st person sing), but the base meaning is 'excrement'; they use to believe that by calling their children 'shit', evil spirits would stay away from the children because they obviously thought that was icky and stuff. In ancient~pre-modern Japan, people usually got different names depending on the stage of life you were in, so they weren't being called shit all their (short) lives.
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Bakufuu's name means blast, like an explosion.
It just so happens the trial that takes place after his murder is Courtroom No. 4... which was bombed.
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Nah its De Famme.....defame: to damage the good reputation of someone.
The hell is Pierce Nichody's pun?
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How the HELL do people not get this already?! It's "persnickety"!
Because its pronounced nothing like that?
Maybe if his first name was Percy but Pierce sounds totally different.
I could argue its "Pierce Nichody" as in "Pierce the body" as a hint to his original profession.
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How the HELL do people not get this already?! It's "persnickety"!
Because its pronounced nothing like that?
Maybe if his first name was Percy but Pierce sounds totally different.
I could argue its "Pierce Nichody" as in "Pierce the body" as a hint to his original profession.
I don't really hear the "the" part when I read out his name, though. I can't really think of any other possible puns as of now, though.
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EDIT: "persnickety" is the American version XD Who would've thought? (Rolls off the tongue better XD)
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How the HELL do people not get this already?! It's "persnickety"!
Why so condescending? I didn't get it, mainly because "persnickety" isn't a word I've heard a lot. (On the other hand it took me way too long to catch "Luke Atmey" too)
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To be honest, I don't get how anyone figured out the pun. I can definitely hear the "-nickety" part and maybe the "s" before it but I don't hear the "per" part. "Pier", in Pierce, sounds nothing "per". The "i" makes a huge difference here. This means the way the name is pronounced is, "Pier-suh Nick-o-dee". However, the pun requires the "i" in Pierce to be taken out just so I can hear the pun. Someone explain this all to me.
This is basically my issue.
Also for me the word is "Pernickety" without any "s" sound before the "Nickety"
I'd also still argue that "Percy" would work better than "Pierce" because as mentioned the "i" makes a huge difference.
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Apollo4Justice wrote:
To be honest, I don't get how anyone figured out the pun. I can definitely hear the "-nickety" part and maybe the "s" before it but I don't hear the "per" part. "Pier", in Pierce, sounds nothing "per". The "i" makes a huge difference here. This means the way the name is pronounced is, "Pier-suh Nick-o-dee". However, the pun requires the "i" in Pierce to be taken out just so I can hear the pun. Someone explain this all to me.
The name isn't supposed to be pronounced exactly like the word (see Taifu, Uendo and Geiru Toneido), it's more just a reference to it.
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To be honest, I don't get how anyone figured out the pun. I can definitely hear the "-nickety" part and maybe the "s" before it but I don't hear the "per" part. "Pier", in Pierce, sounds nothing "per". The "i" makes a huge difference here. This means the way the name is pronounced is, "Pier-suh Nick-o-dee". However, the pun requires the "i" in Pierce to be taken out just so I can hear the pun. Someone explain this all to me.
The name isn't supposed to be pronounced exactly like the word (see Taifu, Uendo and Geiru Toneido), it's more just a reference to it.
There's a difference between a name being a reference to something and a name that doesn't remotely resemble the pun people claim it to be. Take Taifu, for example. Taifu does indeed resemble the intended pun, "Typhoon". That's because the lettering indicates as such. However, let's look at Pierce again. It can't be the "per" in "persnickety" because it doesn't remotely sound like it, not even a little. Le's look at the pronounciations of both names side-by-side and wih their intended pun. "Ty-fu", which is half of "Typhoon". "Pier-suh", which is somehow supposed to resemble "per" and "s" in "persnickety". If we're following your logic, "persnickety" should really be spelled "piersnickety" just for the pun to make even the slightest of sense. See what I mean now?
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Apollo4Justice wrote:
There's a difference between a name being a reference to something and a name that doesn't remotely resemble the pun people claim it to be. Take Taifu, for example. Taifu does indeed resemble the intended pun, "Typhoon". That's because the lettering indicates as such. However, let's look at Pierce again. It can't be the "per" in "persnickety" because it doesn't remotely sound like it, not even a little. Le's look at the pronounciations of both names side-by-side and wih their intended pun. "Ty-fu", which is half of "Typhoon". "Pier-suh", which is somehow supposed to resemble "per" and "s" in "persnickety". If we're following your logic, "persnickety" should really be spelled "piersnickety" just for the pun to make even the slightest of sense. See what I mean now?
It'd be easier to believe something like that if we didn't already HAVE name puns that don't sound like what they're supposed to be referencing.
Like Damian Tenma being a reference to Demon (which is referenced by his Japanese name), Sasha Buckler (while a reference to the word "swashbuckler", the first name, like Pierce's, sounds nothing like the word it's supposed to be referencing, or Norma DePlume (which is a reference "nom de plume", again Norma sounds nothing like nom).
Although I do see what you mean in that his name pun is a lot less obvious than others we've seen.
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FenrirDarkWolf wrote:
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There's a difference between a name being a reference to something and a name that doesn't remotely resemble the pun people claim it to be. Take Taifu, for example. Taifu does indeed resemble the intended pun, "Typhoon". That's because the lettering indicates as such. However, let's look at Pierce again. It can't be the "per" in "persnickety" because it doesn't remotely sound like it, not even a little. Le's look at the pronounciations of both names side-by-side and wih their intended pun. "Ty-fu", which is half of "Typhoon". "Pier-suh", which is somehow supposed to resemble "per" and "s" in "persnickety". If we're following your logic, "persnickety" should really be spelled "piersnickety" just for the pun to make even the slightest of sense. See what I mean now?
It'd be easier to believe something like that if we didn't already HAVE name puns that don't sound like what they're supposed to be referencing.
Like Damian Tenma being a reference to Demon (which is referenced by his Japanese name), Sasha Buckler (while a reference to the word "swashbuckler", the first name, like Pierce's, sounds nothing like the word it's supposed to be referencing, or Norma DePlume (which is a reference "nom de plume", again Norma sounds nothing like nom).
Although I do see what you mean in that his name pun is a lot less obvious than others we've seen.
The difference between those examples and Pierce, however, is that Damian, Sasha, and Norma all get the general sound of the pun. Damian does sound like "demon" when said quickly and Sasha's name does the same thing. Now, you might be thinking Norma is the odd one out, that she's the same as Pierce. However, in all actuality, Norma achieves her pun in a way Pierce can't. An alternative way of pronouncing the name. You might also be thinking this can't happen however, it has before, in 2012-ish. Specifically, the "norm" has an alternative way to say it. Let's take a look back at Heavy Rain, specifically Norman Jayden. Now, does anyone remember how the character himself pronounced it? That's right, he said it like "Nahm-an"!
And how do you say "nom" in "nom de plume"? You say it like "nahm". Therefore, you can still see the pun through pronunciation alone, which leaves you, Mr. Fenrir, with no case! 
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FenrirDarkWolf wrote:
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There's a difference between a name being a reference to something and a name that doesn't remotely resemble the pun people claim it to be. Take Taifu, for example. Taifu does indeed resemble the intended pun, "Typhoon". That's because the lettering indicates as such. However, let's look at Pierce again. It can't be the "per" in "persnickety" because it doesn't remotely sound like it, not even a little. Le's look at the pronounciations of both names side-by-side and wih their intended pun. "Ty-fu", which is half of "Typhoon". "Pier-suh", which is somehow supposed to resemble "per" and "s" in "persnickety". If we're following your logic, "persnickety" should really be spelled "piersnickety" just for the pun to make even the slightest of sense. See what I mean now?
It'd be easier to believe something like that if we didn't already HAVE name puns that don't sound like what they're supposed to be referencing.
Like Damian Tenma being a reference to Demon (which is referenced by his Japanese name), Sasha Buckler (while a reference to the word "swashbuckler", the first name, like Pierce's, sounds nothing like the word it's supposed to be referencing, or Norma DePlume (which is a reference "nom de plume", again Norma sounds nothing like nom).
Although I do see what you mean in that his name pun is a lot less obvious than others we've seen.
I would also argue "Nichody" is not much like "nickety".
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I mean, Pierce is as close to "pers" as Luke is to Look.
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Nurio wrote:
I don't know how you pronounce Pierce Nichody or persnickety, but those two are way closer than any of the other examples Fenrir gave.
I mean, Pierce is as close to "pers" as Luke is to Look.
I mean, Pierce is as close to "pers" as Luke is to Look.
Luke sounds like you're extending the two "o" letters in "look", though. In fact, I hear some people daily say it like that. However, "Pier-suh" doesn't remotely sound like "per-suh". The "i" makes a huge difference in the pronounciation. Sure, Nichody resembles "nickety" somewhat, but if Pierce doesn't resemble the rest of it, then the pun would just be "nickety", which makes no sense either.
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But anyway, this is really going in circles. Like I said, it's just a difference in how we pronounce things, I suppose.
But we can actually ask the guys behind the localization what the pun behind the name is. That's the only way to have clarification here
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Nurio wrote:
Not sure what you mean by extending the two "o" letters... Since "oo" is already extended.
But anyway, this is really going in circles. Like I said, it's just a difference in how we pronounce things, I suppose.
But we can actually ask the guys behind the localization what the pun behind the name is. That's the only way to have clarification here
But anyway, this is really going in circles. Like I said, it's just a difference in how we pronounce things, I suppose.
But we can actually ask the guys behind the localization what the pun behind the name is. That's the only way to have clarification here
Pierce sounds like Peers or Piers: Piers Nick Odd Ey is how his name sounds in my head.
The sound they need for the pun to work is more akin to Perce hence I feel Percy would have been a better substitute.
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Nurio wrote:
Not sure what you mean by extending the two "o" letters... Since "oo" is already extended.
But anyway, this is really going in circles. Like I said, it's just a difference in how we pronounce things, I suppose.
But we can actually ask the guys behind the localization what the pun behind the name is. That's the only way to have clarification here
But anyway, this is really going in circles. Like I said, it's just a difference in how we pronounce things, I suppose.
But we can actually ask the guys behind the localization what the pun behind the name is. That's the only way to have clarification here
About the "o" extension, let me put it this way. The way one pronounces look normally is "luh-kuh" or something close to it. However, Luke is pronounced "loo-kuh" or something similar again. Does that make more sense now?
The "luh" is quicker than "loo".
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lol I can't believe we're debating puns, it really is srs business...
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FenrirDarkWolf wrote:
The main point I'm trying to say is... the pun for the name is just lifted from the original word, but the pun doesn't HAVE to sound exactly the same as the original word, as it sounds close enough that at least SOMEONE will get the pun.
lol I can't believe we're debating puns, it really is srs business...
lol I can't believe we're debating puns, it really is srs business...
It's all fun and games until someone talks to you like you are an idiot for not hearing a pun of a word that's not that obvious in the first place.
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The main point I'm trying to say is... the pun for the name is just lifted from the original word, but the pun doesn't HAVE to sound exactly the same as the original word, as it sounds close enough that at least SOMEONE will get the pun.
lol I can't believe we're debating puns, it really is srs business...
lol I can't believe we're debating puns, it really is srs business...
It's all fun and games until someone talks to you like you are an idiot for not hearing a pun of a word that's not that obvious in the first place.
Ah..
Well, I do apologise, if I came off harsh to you guys. It wasn't my intention.
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FenrirDarkWolf wrote:
The main point I'm trying to say is... the pun for the name is just lifted from the original word, but the pun doesn't HAVE to sound exactly the same as the original word, as it sounds close enough that at least SOMEONE will get the pun.
lol I can't believe we're debating puns, it really is srs business...
lol I can't believe we're debating puns, it really is srs business...
It's all fun and games until someone talks to you like you are an idiot for not hearing a pun of a word that's not that obvious in the first place.
Ah..
Well, I do apologise, if I came off harsh to you guys. It wasn't my intention.
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