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Author: | Going for Miles [ Wed Nov 30, 2016 2:40 pm ] |
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Spoiler: |
Author: | JesusMonroe [ Wed Nov 30, 2016 2:54 pm ] |
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Spoiler: To the above |
Author: | Southern Corn [ Wed Nov 30, 2016 2:59 pm ] |
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Spoiler: Whole game |
Author: | Going for Miles [ Wed Nov 30, 2016 3:02 pm ] |
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Spoiler: JesusMonroe |
Author: | JesusMonroe [ Wed Nov 30, 2016 3:11 pm ] |
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Pretty much agreed. I don't think Nayuta is a bad character, though. I actually think he's a better character than Blackquill but Blackquill's a better prosecutor and a more entertaining personality, so I prefer him and would rank him higher My main problem with Nayuta is very simple Spoiler: 6-5 I think he needed one more funny gimmick to be more memorable. Doesn't even need to be something new, they could just emphasize him reading the karmic threads of trials beyond Day 1 of Case 3. Maybe play it off in a funny way when he ends up being wrong I do think there's a lot of potential for him in a future game like the team did with Lang in AAI2 (making him much more enjoyable and much more fleshed out). He has such a great design and theme that it's too disappointing that he's just kind of alright |
Author: | Going for Miles [ Wed Nov 30, 2016 3:23 pm ] |
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Yes. I, too, like him for what he is, he's a bit different from previous prosecutors. He's not flashy and bombastic that most of them are in different ways, but rather a bit monotone. And quite frankly, pretty bitchy. Still, he does lack a certain something. I can't really get a grasp of him. Spoiler: 6-5, DD |
Author: | Southern Corn [ Wed Nov 30, 2016 4:00 pm ] |
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In response to this,I once again firmly hold that in AA7 they should show Spoiler: AA6 |
Author: | luck [ Wed Nov 30, 2016 10:02 pm ] |
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Going for Miles wrote: Yes. I, too, like him for what he is, he's a bit different from previous prosecutors. He's not flashy and bombastic that most of them are in different ways, but rather a bit monotone. And quite frankly, pretty bitchy. Still, he does lack a certain something. I can't really get a grasp of him. Spoiler: 6-5, DD Spoiler: 6-5, DD |
Author: | JesusMonroe [ Thu Dec 01, 2016 12:52 am ] |
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luck wrote: Going for Miles wrote: Yes. I, too, like him for what he is, he's a bit different from previous prosecutors. He's not flashy and bombastic that most of them are in different ways, but rather a bit monotone. And quite frankly, pretty bitchy. Still, he does lack a certain something. I can't really get a grasp of him. Spoiler: 6-5, DD Spoiler: 6-5, DD Spoiler: 6-5 |
Author: | AchtungBaby [ Thu Dec 01, 2016 12:54 am ] |
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Spoiler: 6-5 |
Author: | JesusMonroe [ Thu Dec 01, 2016 1:06 am ] |
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Spoiler: To the above |
Author: | AchtungBaby [ Thu Dec 01, 2016 1:33 am ] |
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JesusMonroe wrote: Spoiler: To the above |
Author: | DeiStar [ Sat Dec 10, 2016 10:11 am ] |
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He definitely is. Not only he was just another tired "asshole prosecutor who just hates your guts but actually has this tragic backstory" cliche I'm tired of, but he did absolutely NOTHING in the last case. He just stood there, was a hindrance, and then the game expected me to like him for dropping his "I hate lawyers" persona. |
Author: | WaitingforGodot [ Fri Feb 03, 2017 3:06 pm ] |
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I was a bit disappointed for a long time because I tend to love, love, love the prosecutors, so I had been really curious about him - and here he was, "I hate prosecutors" and rather bland. luck wrote: I think the reason people dislike Nahyuta is because as opposed to Edgeworth, who is a pretty similar character in many senses, he never had a moment to make people think 'this guy might not be such a jerk' before his whole deal is revealed near the end of the last case. Remember how the whole reason Turnabout Samurai exists is to give the player a reason to care about Edgeworth? Turns out it was a good idea. Yes. That. That's the reason for me not caring that much at first. I never disliked him, I rather liked him, but he felt a bit "meh" at times and unnecessarily rude. Some amusing moments that made me enjoy him more were had, definitely, but those were pretty few and far between. I really enjoyed his eloquece, though. Spoiler: SoJ-5 |
Author: | Southern Corn [ Fri Feb 03, 2017 4:05 pm ] |
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I noticed the only prosecutors I don't like so much are the ones in the games where Apollo is the pivotal character. Either way,Klavier was much better as he at least refrained from telling Apollo to go to hell and didn't have any special relation with Apollo beforehand. |
Author: | KirbySage18 [ Fri Feb 03, 2017 7:36 pm ] |
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Nahyuta is probably one of the most normal prosecutors in a while. While yes, he was telling the defense attorneys to go to hell, compared to being whipped, getting coffee thrown at you and nearly getting cut in half, it's nothing. Not only that, but at the time Nahyuta was being forced to be against Apollo because of Ga'ran, so it's possible he's a lot more outgoing like how he is described to have been like when he was like five or something. I like Nahyuta a lot. |
Author: | JesusMonroe [ Fri Feb 03, 2017 8:31 pm ] |
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WaitingforGodot wrote: I was a bit disappointed for a long time because I tend to love, love, love the prosecutors, so I had been really curious about him - and here he was, "I hate prosecutors" and rather bland. luck wrote: I think the reason people dislike Nahyuta is because as opposed to Edgeworth, who is a pretty similar character in many senses, he never had a moment to make people think 'this guy might not be such a jerk' before his whole deal is revealed near the end of the last case. Remember how the whole reason Turnabout Samurai exists is to give the player a reason to care about Edgeworth? Turns out it was a good idea. Yes. That. That's the reason for me not caring that much at first. I never disliked him, I rather liked him, but he felt a bit "meh" at times and unnecessarily rude. Some amusing moments that made me enjoy him more were had, definitely, but those were pretty few and far between. I really enjoyed his eloquece, though. Spoiler: SoJ-5 I really think trying to hide the relationship between him and Apollo hurt the game. 6-2 is their first trial together ever. Two brothers who haven't seen each other in years are facing off and there's no fire at all in their dynamic I remember being really excited for 6-5 thinking about the position Nayuta would be in having to convict Dhurke but then he doesn't do anything as a prosecutor for like the entire case. Huge missed opportunity |
Author: | WaitingforGodot [ Sat Feb 04, 2017 1:03 am ] |
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^ Fully agree. |
Author: | Southern Corn [ Sat Feb 04, 2017 4:01 am ] |
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KirbySage18 wrote: Nahyuta is probably one of the most normal prosecutors in a while. While yes, he was telling the defense attorneys to go to hell, compared to being whipped, getting coffee thrown at you and nearly getting cut in half, it's nothing. Not only that, but at the time Nahyuta was being forced to be against Apollo because of Ga'ran, so it's possible he's a lot more outgoing like how he is described to have been like when he was like five or something. I like Nahyuta a lot. He throws beads at the defence,can predict the future,and Spoiler: 6-5 |
Author: | MBr [ Fri Jun 09, 2017 10:44 pm ] |
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He doesn't have a Turnabout Samurai moment like Edgeworth or Blackquill did. I don't find him likeable, but he can be funny. Edit: Spoiler: |
Author: | DynoStretch [ Sun Feb 25, 2018 10:58 am ] |
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So I've been thinking a little more about how I feel about the way they handled Nahyuta, and I realized a number that bother me about it more then ever. Spoiler: |
Author: | Murozaki [ Sat Mar 17, 2018 2:15 am ] |
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There's nothing to him, he's an antagonistic dick-ish prosecutor then he is revealed to have been a good guy. That's it. That's his entire personality. He has no character. He is nothing. You could remove him from the game and replace him with Gaspen and you would only need to rewrite very little of the plot. |
Author: | Southern Corn [ Sat Mar 17, 2018 6:22 pm ] |
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If that were the case, then I would love to see Gaspen's backstory on how he was Apollo's brother the whole time. |
Author: | Murozaki [ Sun Mar 18, 2018 3:09 am ] |
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Southern Corn wrote: If that were the case, then I would love to see Gaspen's backstory on how he was Apollo's brother the whole time. Okay, you're a genius, i change my mind, new idea: Remove Nahyuta, replace him with Gaspen and rewrite absolutely nothing. |
Author: | Southern Corn [ Sun Mar 18, 2018 9:31 am ] |
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"Let it go and move on" -The Incredible Payne Would tie up all sorts of families together too, the Khura'in Royal Family, the Fey family, the Gramaryes, the Wrights and the Paynes! Maybe Winston could even be Dhurke, it could work. |
Author: | Cesar Zero [ Mon Mar 19, 2018 3:03 am ] |
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Hmm...I wonder how hard it could be to mod the Android version of SoJ to replace all Nahyuta's models with Gaspen and change nothing else. |
Author: | Danchat [ Sun Mar 25, 2018 8:35 pm ] |
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Cesar Zero wrote: Hmm...I wonder how hard it could be to mod the Android version of SoJ to replace all Nahyuta's models with Gaspen and change nothing else. Would his 3D model stretch to all of the exact movements that Nahyuta's model would normally make? Seeing Payne's model contort like that would be hilarious. I've seen multiple ROM hacks of Pokemon Sun/Moon/UltraSM that have done this same thing with 3D models so I believe it's possible to do on 3DS or Android. |
Author: | Bolting Shaman [ Mon Mar 26, 2018 4:46 pm ] |
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Consider that Apollo never actually faced Gaspen in court. Hell I don't even think they'd ever interact. So when they actually do, the brotherhood plot point can finally surface for them. Makes perfect sense! |
Author: | Southern Corn [ Mon Mar 26, 2018 4:50 pm ] |
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Yet Gaspen called Apollo a red monkey in 5-1. This was clearly foreshadowing he knew Apollo as he was a monkey since childhood and also explains why he wants to prosecute his assaulter. Yet another point for him and Nahyuta being the same person! |
Author: | Metal Gear Acid Trip [ Tue Apr 17, 2018 4:48 am ] |
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In order to really like Nahyuta, unfortunately you need other characters to...not exist. Design-wise, he's amazing - visually, character-concept wise. As a prosecutor he's not going to be remembered as strongly and in a strange irony he will need to show up in AA7 so that they can sufficiently differentiate him besides being a brother and a son etc. Incidentally I think that the tickling punishment comment that he makes is a hint at an "inner child" angle that he still retains despite his seriousness and maturity but either the localization went with a really subtle angle in the script or it was a bit of a missed opportunity to make the character stand out. As it stands, all prosecutors flip out anyway, so...Also, the whole "The Judge is NOT A PERVERT" thing is a great moment as well I don't know. Simon has the samurai thing going on, cartoonish as it may seem. Since Nahyuta makes a comment about acknowledging each of the prosecutors who defeat him, maybe they can add in a "competitive character" angle when we see him again. He has a pure concept of legal proceedings, or at least aspires to it (his character is in Khura'in and wants to reform the legal system to something That It Should Be) so...I think there are options here. But as it stands, as a character he's alright. |
Author: | Southern Corn [ Tue Apr 17, 2018 10:40 am ] |
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Yeah, they had a lot of missed opportunities with Nahyuta. I think for AA7 they could focus more on the comedic aspect (he has a lot of funny lines this game too, but they were pretty underplayed). That's probably what they have to do to even make him likeable in the first place, honestly. |
Author: | Metal Gear Acid Trip [ Tue Apr 17, 2018 8:28 pm ] |
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Also Nahyuta says "Objection" in English in case 5 and that's kinda awesome though there's not much context to it |
Author: | Southern Corn [ Wed Apr 18, 2018 2:21 am ] |
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He says that in every other case as well, I'm pretty sure. Sahtora is just an added bonus. |
Author: | Firesnakex8 [ Thu Mar 03, 2022 5:10 pm ] |
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I think he is the worst rival prosecutor. He was basically a knock off edgeworth except his jerkish attitude and his turn to good wasn't as compelling. When you get to the 6th game you basically know the same song and dance for each prosecutor. "yeah okay so he's acting like a jerk but I'm sure he's going to have some hidden relationship with one of the characters and some tragic backstory that will have him turn to good". And what do you know...exactly that happens and it just feels really lackluster. When he's in that more antagonistic phase he didn't feel all that clever. I never hated him enough to where I was motivated to best him nor did I get any satisfaction when it came to beating him like it did with edgeworth, franziska, van zeiks or manfred. And when it came to interacting with him, it just wasn't fun. I wasn't looking forward to seeing the defense interact with him like I was with klavier or godot. I really hope the next prosecutor for ace attorney 7 doesn't fall into the same trap as nahyuta and we get a more unique prosecutor. On that note though, I think it would be more interesting if we get a returning prosecutor for the next game's main prosecutor like either klavier or Franziska (whom the latter never got a satisfying conclusion to her arc with phoenix) since that is something we haven't gotten before and since the main cast is already bloated as it is. |
Author: | LilyGrace [ Sun Feb 12, 2023 12:04 am ] |
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To me, he was boring. Like I just didn't get much of a personality from him at all. He was just holier-than-thou and that's about it. It felt like a good character design and good ideas done really poorly. I wanted to care about him, but I didn't. |
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