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It kind of depends on the situation for me I guess

Spoiler: 6-2
I really loved both of 6-2's transformations. Betty's was necessary to distinguish her from Bonny

As for Roger's, he probably has the best transformation in the series, maybe even past Engarde. I loved how subtle it was like he was dangling the answer in front of us the entire time. And unlike Engarde, his personality doesn't really change either

Plus with Roger the transformation is extremely "necessary" as it'd just be a waste to have a magician villain without utilizing the animation potential
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It kind of depends on the situation for me I guess

Spoiler: 6-2
I really loved both of 6-2's transformations. Betty's was necessary to distinguish her from Bonny

As for Roger's, he probably has the best transformation in the series, maybe even past Engarde. I loved how subtle it was like he was dangling the answer in front of us the entire time. And unlike Engarde, his personality doesn't really change either

Plus with Roger the transformation is extremely "necessary" as it'd just be a waste to have a magician villain without utilizing the animation potential


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Agreed, I first got a bit annoyed with Betty's because it felt like an out of the blue-design change-transformation, but of course it made sense when she turned out to be a different person entirely. Engarde's is still my favourite because it changes everything, but Reus' was amazing as well, very neatly done.

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Gotta agree there. DD's DLC villain was worse for the reason you mentioned. And it's also less bad if it's a small case instead of a big case. But I'm still not a fan regardless
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A lot of people bring up justification for Nayuta's behavior in cases 2-4 but I honestly don't think it really needs much justification. I think he's just rude, like that's his personality. Blackquill was rude in DD too and still is in 6-4

Nayuta isn't just a monk, he's a sharp-tongued monk. That's the prosecutor gimmick this time around. I don't blame anyone for not liking him because he is rude, but I don't think a huge justification is needed for it. He is who he is


Not really trying to excuse what he does at all. In fact, I'm kinda bummed out that he turned out the way he did because I really did want to like him. I'm just pointing out why it's unreasonable to expect him to act differently out of the country.
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I really do love over the top transformations and breakdowns. AA I feel as always been about the craziness and zaniness of the court system,and the transformations go hand in hand with that.
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Going for Miles wrote:
JesusMonroe wrote:
It kind of depends on the situation for me I guess

Spoiler: 6-2
I really loved both of 6-2's transformations. Betty's was necessary to distinguish her from Bonny

As for Roger's, he probably has the best transformation in the series, maybe even past Engarde. I loved how subtle it was like he was dangling the answer in front of us the entire time. And unlike Engarde, his personality doesn't really change either

Plus with Roger the transformation is extremely "necessary" as it'd just be a waste to have a magician villain without utilizing the animation potential


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Agreed, I first got a bit annoyed with Betty's because it felt like an out of the blue-design change-transformation, but of course it made sense when she turned out to be a different person entirely. Engarde's is still my favourite because it changes everything, but Reus' was amazing as well, very neatly done.

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Fun fact: When I saw 'Bonny' transform and the bat motive my first thought was "I guess her name could have been Betty, but that would spoil the twist."
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JesusMonroe wrote:
It kind of depends on the situation for me I guess

Spoiler: 6-2
I really loved both of 6-2's transformations. Betty's was necessary to distinguish her from Bonny

As for Roger's, he probably has the best transformation in the series, maybe even past Engarde. I loved how subtle it was like he was dangling the answer in front of us the entire time. And unlike Engarde, his personality doesn't really change either

Plus with Roger the transformation is extremely "necessary" as it'd just be a waste to have a magician villain without utilizing the animation potential

Spoiler: 6-1, 6-2
I wasn't against the 6-2 transformations at all. There, they made sense. The first one was a different character entirely, and the second one was a different identity entirely, both who were unmasked during the course of the trial. But looking back at Peeslub'n, the metal stuff wasn't a different identity. It was still Peeslub'n, and his metal-ness also wasn't unmasked. It just went like
"Hey, you're the killer!"
"Gh!" *turns metal*

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I know,but that's sort of the turning point of the case. You've aggravated the killer to the point that they've transformed completely. This also fools veterans into thinking that the case is near completion.
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Actually, I think veterans...
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would know it's far from over since Rhymes had a similar transformation, and it took ages for it to end with him too

That's how I interpreted it anyhow. And yeah, I don't mind villains showing their true colors if they're unmasked or aggravated. A very simple example is Frank Sahwit. He gets cornered more and more to the point he just bursts out in anger and throws his toupet (which I refuse to write as toupee =P) at Phoenix showing he's actually balding, and then later gets so worked up he foams at the mouth and faints. But he doesn't completely transform. He doesn't become a different person with a different voice and pulls out enormous stuff out of nowhere. I know it's Ace Attorney, but that's just too unrealistic to me. It should make more sense since it's at such an important part during the trial, when things get real
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My general rule of transformations is "if I can't see the pre-transformation and post-transformation as the same character, I don't like it." The exception to this rule is 2-4 but it's also not really an exception because I can see the villain as the same character in that case, probably due to the design still being so similar

There are also other exceptions I guess. Like I can't even remember what I-5's villain was like before the transformation. In this case, the post-transformation IS the character

5-3, 5-DLC, 6-1, and 6-5 are ones I don't really like too much
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JesusMonroe wrote:
My general rule of transformations is "if I can't see the pre-transformation and post-transformation as the same character, I don't like it."

That's a good way to put it, and I agree. As long as you still feel like you're dealing with the same person, it's all good. (Exceptions are the times it literally isn't the same person or identity.)
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I dunno,I felt that the villain was the same person Pre and post transformation,just a bit more meaner in the latter.
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I dunno,I felt that the villain was the same person Pre and post transformation,just a bit more meaner in the latter.

It surely wasn't as bad as the physical transformation in 5-DLC, but it still felt unnatural. It feels like a gag and serving no other purpose than "haha", except it wasn't funny. I mean,
Spoiler: 6-1
who would suddenly start turning metal the moment he gets cornered? That's weird, isn't it? It feels like something out of a webcomic where the only gag is the characters being quirky.
Spoiler: 5-3
At least with Means, for example, I can imagine he was just completely pissed and wanted to lecture everybody about how wrong they are. That felt a bit more natural already... Still was a bit eh, though

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Alright,time to finally reply in spoiler tags :P
Spoiler: 6-1 and 5-3
I felt that him turning metal was to more aggressively taunt Phoenix and prompt the crowd. I liked him more in a design sense than Means,whose statue design was really weird and didn't fit into the right atmosphere for 5-3. Pees'lubn was at least cohesive in his design. Him turning metal goes great with the whole Khura'in setting,all dark and ominous. And I could see him being the same person still. The speakers were odd,but I feel that's very tongue-in cheek stuff.

I think we might have to agree to disagree on this one.
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I disagree to disagree!

...No, just kidding. Yes, let's. I also didn't actually expect to convince you or anyone else, anyway. It's more me trying to explain why I didn't like the transformations
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Inga. He's just plain nasty.
Spoiler: 6-5
His only redeeming quality seems to be that he apparently was a nice father to Rayfa. That letter from her that he had in his safe was adorable, and the fact that he kept it there was too.

Aaaand I'm mad at him for killing Dhurke. I know why he would do such a thing, but I'm still mad. Super-mad.

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