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Re: The pairing debate thread!

Sun Aug 31, 2014 10:10 pm

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Can't say, really. Even if it's not confirmed yet, it was definitely hinted at, I believe...? :ron:

It's how this kind of stories progress, the girl has a crush, the guy saves her life with a blast...

Either that, or Capcom is pulling off another Iris to vanish somewhere later in the series.

Re: The pairing debate thread!

Sun Aug 31, 2014 10:16 pm

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Eww, let's hope not. I'd rather have her vanish... does this make me a bad person? :sadshoe:

I just hate romance... :ron:

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Re: The pairing debate thread!

Wed Sep 03, 2014 1:18 am

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I'd rather too, but perhaps I'm not the right person to reply; I hate romance too.

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Re: The pairing debate thread!

Wed Sep 03, 2014 2:40 pm

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Eh, I wouldn't mind a cameo or perhaps a mention, but a full blown romantic subplot definitely wouldn't work.

That said, I wouldn't mind if Iris returned, but Maya needs to show up again before that can happen.

Re: The pairing debate thread!

Wed Sep 03, 2014 7:26 pm

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Nah, even if they went for that relationship, I don't think they would go for romance. They would either make it related to the plot, or just leave it a mention on the side, I think.

Re: The pairing debate thread!

Fri Oct 10, 2014 12:18 pm

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Well, Capcom isn't well know for their borad inclusion of romance in their games, so I wouldn't worry the games to turn in that direction. I would like some Apollo/Athena, but mostly because I love their characters, the dynamic they have, and the bonding they (supposedly) achieved at the end of the game. I guess it's something similar to me loving Holmes and Watson's characters from the recent movies, just because their character dynamic was funny as hell (just so we are clear, I do not ship them. It's more like a bro-love-hate relationship).

Meh. IF (yup, capital IF) Capcom decided to make any of those pairings canon, I highly doubt they would take much screen time, for the games usually follow a central theme, and a romance subplot would deviate the purpose of the macro-story, in my opinion.

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Re: The pairing debate thread!

Sun Nov 09, 2014 4:55 pm

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Fist of Justice wrote:

Eww, let's hope not. I'd rather have her vanish... does this make me a bad person? :sadshoe:

I just hate romance... :ron:

WaitingforGodot wrote:

I'd rather too, but perhaps I'm not the right person to reply; I hate romance too.

I third that. Who needs romance anyway? :godot:

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Re: The pairing debate thread!

Sun Nov 09, 2014 7:07 pm

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Mary Faraday wrote:

Fist of Justice wrote:

Eww, let's hope not. I'd rather have her vanish... does this make me a bad person? :sadshoe:

I just hate romance... :ron:

WaitingforGodot wrote:

I'd rather too, but perhaps I'm not the right person to reply; I hate romance too.

I third that. Who needs romance anyway? :godot:

I don't mind romance, just as long as it's done well. Or if it's important to the plot.

Of course, romances for the sake of plot can be just as bad if not done carefully. There's nothing worse than some plot point's existence being dependent on two people getting together while the romance itself is just half-assed or completely unconvincing.

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Re: The pairing debate thread!

Sun Nov 09, 2014 8:47 pm

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The thing with romance, in my opinion, is that it's seldom interesting other than for the people involved in it. Which is why I have a hard time seeing why it has to take up space in almost every last piece of media. In that sense Ace Attorney kind of nails it; romance is appearent when it's relevant to the plot (instead of the plot being relevant to the romance). The only pair that's "just there" is Ron and Dessie, and they're cute.

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Re: The pairing debate thread!

Tue Nov 11, 2014 8:05 pm

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I don't mind a bit of romance either but I'm in total agreement that it shouldn't dominate what's going on. That is probably one of the oddest things about Apollo. He is undeniably the most "in demand" character in that he has quite a few potential girlfriends with Vera and Juniper. There are people who suggest Athena but I think we need another game before I'd be convinced of it. At this point I think Juniper is more likely to be dropped into the "girlfriend" role, if Ace Attorney chose to go down that path but whether it would work is a different story.

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Re: The pairing debate thread!

Tue Mar 31, 2015 4:46 pm

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I have finally made up my mind about Phoenix and Edgeworth. I feel like their relationship is pretty hard to pinpoint because it's so unique, and also because a) deep friendship and b) subtext galore. I see fanart of them snogging and think nothing of it, but the thought of them doing more, and/or having a romantic relationship makes me feel mostly awkward.

What I do think is that they share a special and very strong bond, and that their friendship balances right on the line between platonic and romantic. Right. On. The line.

And that's where it will stay, and maybe they would smooch if overwhelmed by emotions, but that would be an isolated event, and they will stay as "heterosexual life partners" but without the heterosexuality (at least for Edgeworth: I think he's asexual).

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Re: The pairing debate thread!

Tue Mar 31, 2015 4:53 pm

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I really like that theory - I definitely can't see them as romantic partners, not at all - it makes me quite uncomfortable, but that right on the line-thing... Yes, most definitely. I headcanon Edgeworth as asexual as well, as for Phoenix... well, straight, but with a quite platonic crush-like thingie. I really like their relationship, I really like the dynamics.

(Haha, that isolated smooch-thing made me go; ...aww...)

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Re: The pairing debate thread!

Tue Mar 31, 2015 5:17 pm

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Re: The pairing debate thread!

Tue Mar 31, 2015 5:31 pm

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Umm... anyhow...

Phoenix and Edgeworth's relationship is by far my favourite in the series, along with Phoenix' and Maya's bestfriendship, especially the moments where they are precisely on the same wave-length; those are the best.

And I think Klavi's and Apollo's weird relationship is fun too, but there it's very much my interpretation of it (I interpret Apollo as attracted to Klavier, who in turn is charmed and amused by Apollo) that makes it, as opposed to the two friendships above, where it's what's actually being displayed in the games that I love.

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Re: The pairing debate thread!

Wed Apr 01, 2015 6:22 am

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It is the strong opinion of the brosecution that there is a difference between "gay" and "bromance."
Phoenix and Miles share the latter in my opinion.

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Re: The pairing debate thread!

Wed Apr 01, 2015 6:27 am

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Nymeria wrote:

There's nothing worse than some plot point's existence being dependent on two people getting together while the romance itself is just half-assed or completely unconvincing.

You mean like Phoenix X Iris?

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Re: The pairing debate thread!

Wed Apr 01, 2015 9:08 am

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What plot point's existence was dependent on Phoenix and Iris getting together?

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Sun Feb 12, 2017 5:40 pm

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In a blatant disregard for the laws of necroposting and doubleposting, I shall revive this thread.

So, I've been replaying GK2 lately and I'm wondering, how come CourtneyxEdgeworth never became a thing (I mean a fandom thing, not a canon thing)? They're very alike and we have a longstanding tradition of shipping protagonists with rivals.
Is because Courtney herself isn't very popular?

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Sun Feb 12, 2017 5:49 pm

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Maybe because

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Re: The pairing debate thread!

Wed Feb 15, 2017 12:04 am

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^ Watch your spoiler tag.

Even with the fan translation of GK2, it's not a game that has seen as large of an audience as the other games that have been localized. From those that have played it, I hear generally good things about Courtney, but there are more memorable characters from there. Perhaps she and Edgeworth don't have that strong of chemistry in-game to warrant a pairing for them.

It doesn't surprise me that people are still debating pairings for Edgeworth even after his explicit denial of interest in marriage (or romantic partnership) in 6-S, but what do they propose if they no longer can rely on the canon for "evidence"?

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Re: The pairing debate thread!

Sun Feb 19, 2017 12:45 am

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