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Author:  JesusMonroe [ Wed Sep 24, 2014 5:49 pm ]
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dimentiorules wrote:
Why don't people realize, Edgeworth is Asexual! He has been shown to not be attracted to women, however he's never been shown attracted to men, either! He's based quite a bit on Sherlock Holmes, especially in the GK games. Sherlock Holmes is asexual, Edgeworth is, too! Sorry to break your shipfics, but Edgeworth wouldn't have sexual relations with anyone, male or female.

Do you have proof? I don't really see similar to Holmes-->Holmes is asexual-->Edgeworth is asexual as proof

And Nearavex, I don't read fanfiction but I am a RhodaxEdgeworth shipper. I think out of every character in the series, she's probably the most realistic choice for him. He enjoys his personal space and I feel like as a flight attendant, she's know her limits when it comes to Edgeworth and could be courteous, eventually developing into something more comfortable

I don't have a problem with Edgeworth being gay, but I don't know why so many fans are adamant about it. It's already canon that Phoenix and Gumshoe are straight. He won't be in a relationship with either of them. Unless they're shipping he and Lang, I don't see a reason to be adamant about a headcanon that won't develop into a relationship with anybody

Author:  Going for Miles [ Wed Sep 24, 2014 5:57 pm ]
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How is it canon they are straight, though? Theoretically, every character might be bi. Even Larry. (And just to avoid any misunderstandings: I'm not saying that everyone is bi, nor do I think they all are. But they could be. Theoretically.)

Author:  JesusMonroe [ Wed Sep 24, 2014 6:02 pm ]
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Over the course of the series, Phoenix has thought the following people were attractive: Mia, April May, Regina, Franziska, Desiree Delite, Dahlia, and Iris. They are some very attractive men who have appeared in the series and Phoenix hasn't commented on one of them. It's not the most solid proof in the world, but given how much access we have to Phoenix's thoughts, I think it's a safe bet

With Gumshoe, there's less proof than with Phoenix but again, he's gotten flustered with Mia, Franziska, April May, and Maggey. Probably others but I'm forgetting them. He's never felt this way about a guy to our knowledge

Author:  Going for Miles [ Wed Sep 24, 2014 6:08 pm ]
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True, I've just thought of that as a way of playing it straight (pun intended) to avoid controversy. But that's another subject I guess.

Author:  dimentiorules [ Wed Sep 24, 2014 10:20 pm ]
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JesusMonroe wrote:
dimentiorules wrote:
Why don't people realize, Edgeworth is Asexual! He has been shown to not be attracted to women, however he's never been shown attracted to men, either! He's based quite a bit on Sherlock Holmes, especially in the GK games. Sherlock Holmes is asexual, Edgeworth is, too! Sorry to break your shipfics, but Edgeworth wouldn't have sexual relations with anyone, male or female.

Do you have proof? I don't really see similar to Holmes-->Holmes is asexual-->Edgeworth is asexual as proof

And Nearavex, I don't read fanfiction but I am a RhodaxEdgeworth shipper. I think out of every character in the series, she's probably the most realistic choice for him. He enjoys his personal space and I feel like as a flight attendant, she's know her limits when it comes to Edgeworth and could be courteous, eventually developing into something more comfortable

I don't have a problem with Edgeworth being gay, but I don't know why so many fans are adamant about it. It's already canon that Phoenix and Gumshoe are straight. He won't be in a relationship with either of them. Unless they're shipping he and Lang, I don't see a reason to be adamant about a headcanon that won't develop into a relationship with anybody

Alright, here's my proof. In 3-4, Edgeworth is shown to be completely immune to Dahlia Hawthorne's charm, while every other man that ever met her was instantly wrapped around her little finger. Plus, there's the famous "Do I really create this frothing desire from the female masses?!" line from 3-5. He's also shown to be completely oblivious whenever a woman is hitting on him, except for Oldbag, obviously.

Author:  dimentiorules [ Wed Sep 24, 2014 10:20 pm ]
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JesusMonroe wrote:
dimentiorules wrote:
Why don't people realize, Edgeworth is Asexual! He has been shown to not be attracted to women, however he's never been shown attracted to men, either! He's based quite a bit on Sherlock Holmes, especially in the GK games. Sherlock Holmes is asexual, Edgeworth is, too! Sorry to break your shipfics, but Edgeworth wouldn't have sexual relations with anyone, male or female.

Do you have proof? I don't really see similar to Holmes-->Holmes is asexual-->Edgeworth is asexual as proof

And Nearavex, I don't read fanfiction but I am a RhodaxEdgeworth shipper. I think out of every character in the series, she's probably the most realistic choice for him. He enjoys his personal space and I feel like as a flight attendant, she's know her limits when it comes to Edgeworth and could be courteous, eventually developing into something more comfortable

I don't have a problem with Edgeworth being gay, but I don't know why so many fans are adamant about it. It's already canon that Phoenix and Gumshoe are straight. He won't be in a relationship with either of them. Unless they're shipping he and Lang, I don't see a reason to be adamant about a headcanon that won't develop into a relationship with anybody

Alright, here's my proof. In 3-4, Edgeworth is shown to be completely immune to Dahlia Hawthorne's charm, while every other man that ever met her was instantly wrapped around her little finger. Plus, there's the famous "Do I really create this frothing desire from the female masses?!" line from 3-5. He's also shown to be completely oblivious whenever a woman is hitting on him, except for Oldbag, obviously.

Author:  AireyVerkhovensky [ Wed Sep 24, 2014 10:30 pm ]
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Edgeworth doesn't have a canon sexuality. That does not mean he's asexual. That means you can think he's asexual just as much as you can think he's gay or straight or bi. He literally doesn't have a canon sexual and no one in the series has a canon sexuality.
Okay really why does this thread keep getting sucked back into the same argument and why did I join it. Also why would you even be in this thread if you don't ship Wrightworth, it is pretty much THE slash ship of the fandom.

Oh look fanart!!
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Hey, would it be cheating to post out-of-context panels from the officially published manga? (...not that stripping them of their context is what makes them really slashy.)

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(And here I was just asking why you would be here if not for Wrightworth. YAY LANGWORTH!)

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Author:  sumguy28 [ Wed Sep 24, 2014 10:48 pm ]
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Can't we all just agree that Edgeworth's sexuality has no bearing on the games whatsoever, and is therefore left for the individual player to interpret?

dimentiorules wrote:
In 3-4, Edgeworth is shown to be completely immune to Dahlia Hawthorne's charm, while every other man that ever met her was instantly wrapped around her little finger.

Or maybe he just doesn't fall for the sickeningly cute act.

Author:  Rubia Ryu the Royal [ Thu Sep 25, 2014 2:22 am ]
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It's too bad this thread never had its title changed. People are easily misled to think it's a debate thread. On the other hand, there is something that deserves debating...

Seme or uke?

Author:  Jean Descole [ Thu Sep 25, 2014 3:21 am ]
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I stand by the belief that Edgeworth is omnisexual.

Proof? I don't need proof! :hotti:

(But if we're arguing canonically, I think he's closer to asexual than anything else.)

As for subtext, I'm referring to things like Phoenix wanting to get to April May's bottom, or catching Dee Vasquez with her pants down, or presenting Max Galactica's "ample" bust. Those kinds of things are all over the place.

Author:  JesusMonroe [ Thu Sep 25, 2014 3:55 am ]
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Rubia Ryu the Royal wrote:
Seme or uke?

I mentioned this in another thread, but basically if you ask any AA fan, "If Phoenix and Mia were in a dominant-submissive relationship, who would be what?", then EVERY single fan of the series would say Phoenix is the submissive

I think this can encompass all of the AA fan pairings involving him. NickxEdgeworth, NickxMaya, NickxFranziska, etc. I can't think of a single one where Phoenix would take control

Author:  Rubia Ryu the Royal [ Thu Sep 25, 2014 4:13 am ]
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Funny, since back a long while ago when I was searching around for yaoi (and yuri, but that's another story) doujins for the heck of it, I stumbled upon plenty more of Nick being in the dominant position than otherwise. Granted, maybe it's because yaoi artists like drawing Edgey in a submissive position. Being the pretty boy of the main cast does that to him.

Besides, Mia may seem as feminine as any woman would be, but she's also as masculine as a man would be too. The only one who could possible subdue her is Diego.

I understand this thread is predominantly for m/m slash, but do we have another for f/f stuff? I'd think so, but I can't find it.

Author:  JesusMonroe [ Thu Sep 25, 2014 5:35 am ]
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Rubia Ryu the Royal wrote:
Funny, since back a long while ago when I was searching around for yaoi (and yuri, but that's another story) doujins for the heck of it, I stumbled upon plenty more of Nick being in the dominant position than otherwise. Granted, maybe it's because yaoi artists like drawing Edgey in a submissive position. Being the pretty boy of the main cast does that to him.

Besides, Mia may seem as feminine as any woman would be, but she's also as masculine as a man would be too. The only one who could possible subdue her is Diego.

I understand this thread is predominantly for m/m slash, but do we have another for f/f stuff? I'd think so, but I can't find it.

Now, that is interesting. I don't peruse the internet that thoroughly

And there's a thread about Adrian Andrews in the Kurain sub-forum, I think for f/f stuff

Author:  AireyVerkhovensky [ Thu Sep 25, 2014 9:54 am ]
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Personally I think Phoenix would be the more 'dominant' one simply because I can't really see Edgeworth taking the initiative when it comes to sex or romance in general. Or any type of relationship, really. But I don't like reading NSFW doujin and in fanfiction it's usually Edgeworth topping... :(

Author:  Nearavex [ Thu Sep 25, 2014 1:11 pm ]
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Yeah, that's exactly why I find it so difficult to imagine him in a relationship - he's extremely unlikely to take the initiative if in-character.

Actually, still having trouble imagining him in a relationship at all - I just try to think how he would exactly behave, treat his romantic partner and I come up blank.

Would he be just stoic? Still, it wouldn't make sense if he treated his living person coldly... But I can't exactly picture him being romantic either.

Author:  AireyVerkhovensky [ Thu Sep 25, 2014 4:36 pm ]
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Nearavex wrote:
Yeah, that's exactly why I find it so difficult to imagine him in a relationship - he's extremely unlikely to take the initiative if in-character.

Actually, still having trouble imagining him in a relationship at all - I just try to think how he would exactly behave, treat his romantic partner and I come up blank.

Would he be just stoic? Still, it wouldn't make sense if he treated his living person coldly... But I can't exactly picture him being romantic either.

He'd probably be endearingly super awkward about the whole thing. Like, "What am I doing? What am I supposed to be doing?" and just letting Phoenix his partner handle evetything.

Author:  Rubia Ryu the Royal [ Fri Sep 26, 2014 1:22 am ]
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AireyVerkhovensky wrote:
Nearavex wrote:
Yeah, that's exactly why I find it so difficult to imagine him in a relationship - he's extremely unlikely to take the initiative if in-character.

Actually, still having trouble imagining him in a relationship at all - I just try to think how he would exactly behave, treat his romantic partner and I come up blank.

Would he be just stoic? Still, it wouldn't make sense if he treated his living person coldly... But I can't exactly picture him being romantic either.

He'd probably be endearingly super awkward about the whole thing. Like, "What am I doing? What am I supposed to be doing?" and just letting Phoenix his partner handle evetything.

Episode 1-4 in a nutshell.

Author:  WaitingforGodot [ Fri Sep 26, 2014 9:31 pm ]
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GoingforMiles wrote:
No, Pierre. I didn't. The reason I mentioned subtext in the very first place was not because it's the grounds on which I base my guess of Edgeworth's sexuality or lack thereof (as I said, I think of him as asexual), but because I've noticed that I have a harder time imagining him, if attracted to people, being drawn to women than to men, and I theorized that this may be because there are lines in the games I think could be interpreted as suggesting there's romantic feelings and/or attraction between Edgeworth and Phoenix, by which I'm not saying that I personally think there is, just that I see the possibility.


The only thing I said that comes close of being "look it's obvious" was that I said that "you can't really deny there is subtext". By that I'm not saying I expect everyone to notice it or think anything of it, but upon being presented with it in the perspective of romantic/sexual subtext, regardless of how you interpret it yourself, the possiblity to read it in that way is there I believe. Never did I claim that this interpretation is correct, just that I see where those who ship them are coming from, because when I played the games I figured people would see their relationships as such.


Sierra argued that subtext can be seen between pretty much everyone, to which I replied that NaruMitsu subtext is pretty much the only I've noticed myself, and that's probably why I subconsciously (?) has gotten the impression of him being gay if I'd have to guess his sexuality besides asexual. I didn't use the subtext as proving he's gay, but as a possible reason of why I think he'd be drawn to men rather than women.


Late to the discussion, but well, yeah, I'm with Miles here.

Author:  AireyVerkhovensky [ Fri Sep 26, 2014 11:30 pm ]
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LANGWORTH!
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A GLORIOUS COMBINATION OF BOTH!
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Author:  Going for Miles [ Sat Sep 27, 2014 3:14 pm ]
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B-blue... badger... :beef:

Author:  AnastasiaGavin [ Sat Sep 27, 2014 3:24 pm ]
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Obviously edge worth is gay for Phoenix .It is,But all too clear.-Kristoph smirk-

Author:  AireyVerkhovensky [ Sat Sep 27, 2014 3:28 pm ]
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So has anyone seen that doujin where someone photoshopped the Steel Samurai over all the dicks? I think it was AJ-era Wrightworth.

Author:  AnastasiaGavin [ Sat Sep 27, 2014 3:35 pm ]
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-Kristoh headshake-"phoenixworth is best edge worth pairing-I'm sure you'll all agree if not -Has Atroquinines poison-See you in the afterlife.(x :kristoph: :kristoph: :kristoph: :kristoph: :kristoph: :kristoph: DD)

Author:  Jean Descole [ Sun Sep 28, 2014 12:22 am ]
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AireyVerkhovensky wrote:
So has anyone seen that doujin where someone photoshopped the Steel Samurai over all the dicks? I think it was AJ-era Wrightworth.


Haaahahaha. Nope.

It'll have to be really good to top Phoenix's objectionpenis, though. (Pun perhaps intended.)

Author:  AireyVerkhovensky [ Sun Sep 28, 2014 12:24 am ]
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Sierra Mikain wrote:
AireyVerkhovensky wrote:
So has anyone seen that doujin where someone photoshopped the Steel Samurai over all the dicks? I think it was AJ-era Wrightworth.


Haaahahaha. Nope.

It'll have to be really good to top Phoenix's objectionpenis, though. (Pun perhaps intended.)

Pfffffffft. I remember seeing that somewhere...

Author:  AnastasiaGavin [ Mon Sep 29, 2014 12:04 am ]
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..-Snackoos above poster-"the heck is that?"

On topic,Miles is gay for Phoenix case closed.Grantes I also ship him with franziska

Author:  AireyVerkhovensky [ Mon Sep 29, 2014 12:27 am ]
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AnastasiaGavin wrote:
..-Snackoos above poster-"the heck is that?"

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Author:  dimentiorules [ Mon Sep 29, 2014 12:46 am ]
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I still stand by my idea that Edgeworth is asexual. It's my headcanon, and I refuse to believe that he's anything else. He never ever acts attracted to any guys ever. He never says anything to suggest that he's gay, people like to take quotes he says way out of context and warp them to think that he's gay. I usually hate shipping that doesn't have any canon basis towards it, I don't mind PhoenixMaya because there's actually some hints towards that in the games such as Pearl insisting that they're a couple. When it comes to ships that don't have any connection to the established canon, I can't stand those.

Author:  AireyVerkhovensky [ Mon Sep 29, 2014 12:50 am ]
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dimentiorules wrote:
I still stand by my idea that Edgeworth is asexual. It's my headcanon, and I refuse to believe that he's anything else. He never ever acts attracted to any guys ever. He never says anything to suggest that he's gay, people like to take quotes he says way out of context and warp them to think that he's gay. I usually hate shipping that doesn't have any canon basis towards it, I don't mind PhoenixMaya because there's actually some hints towards that in the games such as Pearl insisting that they're a couple. When it comes to ships that don't have any connection to the established canon, I can't stand those.

That's nice.
So why exactly are you in this thread?

Author:  dimentiorules [ Mon Sep 29, 2014 12:57 am ]
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AireyVerkhovensky wrote:
dimentiorules wrote:
I still stand by my idea that Edgeworth is asexual. It's my headcanon, and I refuse to believe that he's anything else. He never ever acts attracted to any guys ever. He never says anything to suggest that he's gay, people like to take quotes he says way out of context and warp them to think that he's gay. I usually hate shipping that doesn't have any canon basis towards it, I don't mind PhoenixMaya because there's actually some hints towards that in the games such as Pearl insisting that they're a couple. When it comes to ships that don't have any connection to the established canon, I can't stand those.

That's nice.
So why exactly are you in this thread?

Because when I so much as see the title of this thread in the list of threads, I feel an insane rage build up within me. I hate this sort of stuff that much. People acting as if the only option is for him to be gay make me furious.

Author:  AireyVerkhovensky [ Mon Sep 29, 2014 1:01 am ]
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dimentiorules wrote:
AireyVerkhovensky wrote:
dimentiorules wrote:
I still stand by my idea that Edgeworth is asexual. It's my headcanon, and I refuse to believe that he's anything else. He never ever acts attracted to any guys ever. He never says anything to suggest that he's gay, people like to take quotes he says way out of context and warp them to think that he's gay. I usually hate shipping that doesn't have any canon basis towards it, I don't mind PhoenixMaya because there's actually some hints towards that in the games such as Pearl insisting that they're a couple. When it comes to ships that don't have any connection to the established canon, I can't stand those.

That's nice.
So why exactly are you in this thread?

Because when I so much as see the title of this thread in the list of threads, I feel an insane rage build up within me. I hate this sort of stuff that much. People acting as if the only option is for him to be gay make me furious.

You ever heard of the old adage, "Don't like, don't read"? Personally, I think Phoenix/Maya is really creepy, but you don't see me coming into Phoenix/Maya threads to whine about how sibling-y their relationship is. Do we not deserve the same courtesy?

Author:  dimentiorules [ Mon Sep 29, 2014 1:07 am ]
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*sigh* I guess you're right. Nobody likes a party pooper. I shouldn't let my own taste get in the way of other people's enjoyment. I'm sorry. I won't bring this up again.

Author:  AireyVerkhovensky [ Mon Sep 29, 2014 1:13 am ]
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Thank you.
Alright, who wants to post some fanart? I've exhausted my sources... for now.

Author:  Cann Kelly [ Fri Nov 07, 2014 10:01 am ]
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He's definitely gay when we can believe all those fanfics regarding MilesxPhoenix. Also, the same applies to Apollo x Klavier, but we're talking about Miles here. Even his suit is gay, hah.

Author:  Going for Miles [ Fri Nov 07, 2014 1:49 pm ]
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Cann Kelly wrote:
Even his suit is gay, hah.


His suit is attracted to other suits of the same sex?

Author:  Helen [ Fri Nov 07, 2014 2:15 pm ]
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Author:  TheDoctor [ Fri Nov 07, 2014 2:39 pm ]
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I wonder if Edgeworth might be a case of single target sexuality. Completely disinterested in anyone until he meets a "special someone." :pearl-blush:

Kind of like Sherlock Holmes with Irene Adler. Lol, jk

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Author:  AireyVerkhovensky [ Fri Nov 07, 2014 5:10 pm ]
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Helen von Drama wrote:
TheDoctor wrote:
I wonder if Edgeworth might be a case of single target sexuality. Completely disinterested in anyone until he meets a "special someone." :pearl-blush:

Kind of like Sherlock Holmes with Irene Adler. Lol, jk

I like that theory. He's clearly hod┼Źsexual. :phoenix:

And with that, ladies and gentlemen, this debate has been settled.

Maybe we should celebrate with fanart. Hint hint, people.

(Please post Langworth)

Author:  Helen [ Fri Nov 07, 2014 5:56 pm ]
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