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Author:  Rubia Ryu the Royal [ Sun Aug 03, 2014 11:39 pm ]
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cesar26100 wrote:
So...who exactly is Phoenix in this religion?I mean,he DID help Edgeworth realize the truth about his Father,but I don't see how that fits if Edgeworthism is a christian rip-offthe religion of the holy father Gregory and the messiah Miles who came to the world to find the truth.

Also,another theory:every single villain in the games is a von Karma reincarnation.Alba v is the result of von Karma's soul fusing with Dahliaafter getting raped by Gant.

A Christianity rip-off? Oh, no. Edgeworthism is a completely different religion altogether that speaks of the glory of Gregory and the Holy Truth and the demonizing of characters who were already demonized in the first place. It has nothing to do with Christianity, as similar as they seem to come.

We are a very tolerating group, and every submitted theory is accounted and included into the story of our religion... including those that have nothing to do with it or even seem contradicting. Therefore, yours has been indoctrinated as well. :D Certainly, we must clear any contradictions before they manifest themselves into doubt, but in the meantime, it's a free-for-all!

So, to answer your question, who do YOU think Phoenix is?
Seriously, guys, this is great amounts of food for thought. What should we shape this religion into?
Author:  Cesar Zero [ Mon Aug 04, 2014 12:39 am ]
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Wait...has anyone theorized yet on who is the Holy Spirit? I mean,it sometimes gets represented as a dove,which would fit with Phoenix's bird motif.

And we need to find more people to join our religion.I mean,c'mon!Gregory being actually God is just common sense!
Author:  Nearavex [ Mon Aug 04, 2014 12:44 am ]
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Mia?
Author:  Going for Miles [ Mon Aug 04, 2014 9:21 am ]
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The judge of course.
Author:  Nearavex [ Mon Aug 04, 2014 9:43 am ]
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But judge doesn't fit as well as Mia as a spirit.
Author:  Going for Miles [ Mon Aug 04, 2014 10:05 am ]
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But... he has a beard!
Author:  Rubia Ryu the Royal [ Mon Aug 04, 2014 3:35 pm ]
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Polly. The red one, of course.
Author:  Going for Miles [ Mon Aug 04, 2014 6:29 pm ]
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They're both red.
Author:  WaitingforGodot [ Mon Aug 04, 2014 6:34 pm ]
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Hahahahah.
Author:  Rubia Ryu the Royal [ Mon Aug 04, 2014 6:41 pm ]
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GoingforMiles wrote:
They're both red.

And they both put Nick in a lot of trouble, even though their testimonies ended up leading to the truth. :D

Fine, I guess we'll have to stick with the purple one who eats a lot.
Author:  Going for Miles [ Mon Aug 04, 2014 6:48 pm ]
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Rubia Ryu the Royal wrote:
GoingforMiles wrote:
They're both red.

And they both put Nick in a lot of trouble, even though their testimonies ended up leading to the truth. :D

Fine, I guess we'll have to stick with the purple one who eats a lot.


New crack theory: The two Polly's are one and the same. It's a shapeshifter or something. With a divine purpose
Author:  AireyVerkhovensky [ Mon Aug 04, 2014 7:04 pm ]
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Real talk, I have no clue what's going on in this thread anymore.
Author:  Going for Miles [ Mon Aug 04, 2014 7:06 pm ]
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That's the beauty of it, don't you think?
Author:  AireyVerkhovensky [ Mon Aug 04, 2014 7:09 pm ]
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...yeah.
Although wasn't there some debate over this thread in the headcanons thread? IDK, I dropped that one.

Does Edgeworthism have a hierarchy of angels?
Author:  WaitingforGodot [ Mon Aug 04, 2014 7:18 pm ]
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Probably!
Author:  dimentiorules [ Mon Aug 04, 2014 11:02 pm ]
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Yes, there's a hierarchy of angels. They're all the defense attorneys from the series. Phoenix, Apollo, Mia, Grossberg, Athena, and Tateyuki. Kristoph, Calisto Yew, Diego, Robert Hammond, and the other evil defense attorneys are all fallen angels.
Author:  AireyVerkhovensky [ Mon Aug 04, 2014 11:06 pm ]
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So does it go in that order?
Author:  dimentiorules [ Mon Aug 04, 2014 11:12 pm ]
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No, the order would be Tateyuki (As he's Gregory's best friend and all), Phoenix, Mia, Apollo, Athena, Grossberg, Hugh O' Connor.
Author:  Rubia Ryu the Royal [ Mon Aug 04, 2014 11:43 pm ]
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but Hugh's not a DA Somehow the image of Grossberg with wings is hilarious. I don't imagine he gets off the ground very much. ;3
Author:  AireyVerkhovensky [ Mon Aug 04, 2014 11:48 pm ]
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The term "butt-wings" comes to mind. I think I've been spending too much time with people who draw dragons...
Author:  dimentiorules [ Mon Aug 04, 2014 11:51 pm ]
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Rubia Ryu the Royal wrote:
but Hugh's not a DA Somehow the image of Grossberg with wings is hilarious. I don't imagine he gets off the ground very much. ;3

I imagine him with tiny wings, like that one pegasus from MLP that I can't remember the name of.

Also, there's a bit of a problem I've noticed. If Von Karma is the devil, wouldn't that make Franziska the anti christ?! She's not quite evil enough for that in my opinion.
Author:  AireyVerkhovensky [ Mon Aug 04, 2014 11:55 pm ]
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von Karma's mysterious granddaughter (the one with the dog named Phoenix) is the anti-Christ.
Author:  Nearavex [ Mon Aug 04, 2014 11:57 pm ]
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...so, you're saying that she will dress up as Miles...?
Author:  AireyVerkhovensky [ Mon Aug 04, 2014 11:59 pm ]
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Yes.
And her dog Phoenix will wear a cravat too in order to pass as Pess.
Author:  TheDoctor [ Tue Aug 05, 2014 5:06 am ]
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dimentiorules wrote:
Also, there's a bit of a problem I've noticed. If Von Karma is the devil, wouldn't that make Franziska the anti christ?! She's not quite evil enough for that in my opinion.

As much as I hate to get involved in this lunacy, that would probably put her more on the level of Hellboy.
Author:  Cesar Zero [ Wed Aug 06, 2014 1:10 am ]
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TheDoctor wrote:
dimentiorules wrote:
Also, there's a bit of a problem I've noticed. If Von Karma is the devil, wouldn't that make Franziska the anti christ?! She's not quite evil enough for that in my opinion.

As much as I hate to get involved in this lunacy, that would probably put her more on the level of Hellboy.

Too late for that now.
Author:  shippersdreamer [ Wed Aug 06, 2014 7:29 am ]
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cesar26100 wrote:
TheDoctor wrote:
dimentiorules wrote:
Also, there's a bit of a problem I've noticed. If Von Karma is the devil, wouldn't that make Franziska the anti christ?! She's not quite evil enough for that in my opinion.

As much as I hate to get involved in this lunacy, that would probably put her more on the level of Hellboy.

Too late for that now.


So what would that make Edgeworth??
Author:  AireyVerkhovensky [ Wed Aug 06, 2014 11:23 am ]
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Which one?
Author:  shippersdreamer [ Wed Aug 06, 2014 11:27 am ]
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AireyVerkhovensky wrote:
Which one?


Miles, since if Von Karma is Satan and Franziska is the Antichrist...what does that make Miles?
Author:  dimentiorules [ Wed Aug 06, 2014 1:06 pm ]
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shippersdreamer wrote:
AireyVerkhovensky wrote:
Which one?


Miles, since if Von Karma is Satan and Franziska is the Antichrist...what does that make Miles?

The messiah, of course!
Author:  Going for Miles [ Wed Aug 06, 2014 3:43 pm ]
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"He's not the Messiah, he's a very naughty boy."
Author:  dimentiorules [ Wed Aug 06, 2014 4:03 pm ]
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Wait, if Miles is the messiah, doesn't that mean he eventually has to be crucified?! Someone draw fan art of this, NOW!
Author:  Rubia Ryu the Royal [ Wed Aug 06, 2014 5:07 pm ]
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GoingforMiles wrote:
"He's not the Messiah, he's a very naughty boy."

And thus was almost crucified for his sins... until his Holy Guardian by the name of Phoenix Wright stepped in to save him from divine judgment.

...Even if the Phoenix himself hadn't realized how he saved Miles. And I'm talking about when Miles went off to commit social suicide.
Author:  AireyVerkhovensky [ Wed Aug 06, 2014 7:05 pm ]
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Does that make AJ the apostasy, since Edgeworth wasn't in it...?
Author:  Rubia Ryu the Royal [ Wed Aug 06, 2014 8:03 pm ]
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It is a very powerful sign, one only bolstered by the mass confusion it incited and the abandonment of a large part of the fanbase until the Messiah's return in DD.
Author:  AireyVerkhovensky [ Wed Aug 06, 2014 8:18 pm ]
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I'm pretty sure that explains far too much for that to be part of a crack theory.
Author:  WaitingforGodot [ Wed Aug 06, 2014 10:44 pm ]
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GoingforMiles wrote:
"He's not the Messiah, he's a very naughty boy."


:gant-clap2:
Author:  shippersdreamer [ Wed Aug 06, 2014 10:48 pm ]
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Rubia Ryu the Royal wrote:
It is a very powerful sign, one only bolstered by the mass confusion it incited and the abandonment of a large part of the fanbase until the Messiah's return in DD.


What does that make Maya?
Author:  AireyVerkhovensky [ Thu Aug 07, 2014 12:39 am ]
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shippersdreamer wrote:
Rubia Ryu the Royal wrote:
It is a very powerful sign, one only bolstered by the mass confusion it incited and the abandonment of a large part of the fanbase until the Messiah's return in DD.


What does that make Maya?

The Second Coming waiting to happen.
Author:  Going for Miles [ Mon Sep 01, 2014 10:07 am ]
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I just wrote this in the dream thread:
Spoiler:
Quote:
I read a magazine with a long article about videogame characters and working, and there was a quote in it saying "I still can't shake off the feeling that excactly at 1:00, Diego ran out of the courtroom and took the express train, switching places with Godot." Meaning that during the Terry Fawles trial, Diego's mug was poisoned and he knew it, and thus took the opportunity to say "Fuck it" and fake his own death while hopping on a train and disappearing, and that Godot is another person altogether. And yeah. I'm so taking this to the crack theory thread.


After waking up from that dream I couldn't shake off the feeling that this was worth poking into, although the theory as it stands in the dream has some serious flaws (ignoring the 6 (?) year gap, assuming the poisoning happened at the Terry Fawles trial and that it really was his mug itself, which he offered to Terry, that was poisoned, etc.) so I went and made myself a cup of coffee and tried making something at least plausible of it. This is all just for fun.

The core of it: Diego and Godot are not the same.

I've come up with two different explanations for the story behind it: the first one is that Godot was asked and/or hired by Diego himself to "return" while Diego went somewhere else to start a new life. The reason for this could be two; either Diego wanted Godot to watch over Mia (if he didn't know she was dead) and/or Maya and possibly the rest of the Fey clan and make sure they were safe and all. Or it could be that he saught for revenge, although he didn't plan on having anyone killed, that was just Godot getting caught up with it all and refusing to pull his ass out of the fire.

The other explanation is that Godot is an imposter who stole Diego's identity for whatever reason. Diego himself is still in a coma, or he has died.

Also note that it was stated in the game that Godot is really good at imitating other people.

What is questionable in this theory is a) the 6 year gap and b) the Godot persona, because it's both a shitty disguise and a shitty impersonation of Diego.

A) The explanation for the time gap is simple. As for the first theory, that was the time it took before Diego woke up from his coma. As for the other, Godot stumbled upon Diego after the latter had already spent years in a coma, or that was the time when he died/ was plugged out (by Godot?)

B) As for the first theory, this was excactly the point. Godot wasn't meant as a perfect impersonation of Diego, but rather as an observer, working from behind the scenes and keeping an eye out, a guardian angel, if you will (alternatively a death angel for the vengeance theory). Godot isn't a name, it's a code (as we've seen how it ties into the name Diego Armando), and that along with the similar but not identical hair and clothing serves to see if anyone will recognize him, if there are still people out there thinking of him. And as for the second, Godot couldn't legally take Diego's name because Diego was legally dead, and it would mean a risk of being discovered by some authority. The white hair and the visor? That was what Diego looked like while in a coma, when Godot saw him. Godot could be his twin, regular brother, some other relative or a doctor or even another patient who randomly happened to have a similar downer half of the face. Or... to drive this even further into the crazy territory; Godot is not wearing one mask but two, and he's really a spy who's special ability is to mimic people perfectly. Nudge, nudge.
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