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Author: | Southern Corn [ Sat Dec 03, 2016 6:31 am ] |
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And now,for number 29! Shoot for the stars,baby,and to infinity and beyond! You'll be fine,you'll make it back in good shape! Yes,let's go! ---- Spoiler: All the games [previous ranking][hint box][next ranking] |
Author: | Southern Corn [ Sat Dec 03, 2016 9:49 am ] |
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Sorry for the double post,but I just wanted to say that I'm updating the original post with all my case rankings so far-their names,rankings and scores. Still in progress,and will be until this ranking gets over (which is,according to my calculations,on New Years Eve. Hooray!). And now you can use those links to get to each of my individual rankings,no hassle. I recommend everyone else who's doing a ranking currently do this too. It'll be more efficient and save lots of time in the long run. Well,that's it. G'day! |
Author: | Southern Corn [ Sat Dec 03, 2016 10:50 am ] |
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Only took me an hour,but I finished linking everything for now! Tell me if there's a problem with one of the links or something. |
Author: | Nurio [ Sat Dec 03, 2016 1:54 pm ] |
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Spoiler: SC-29 |
Author: | Southern Corn [ Sat Dec 03, 2016 1:57 pm ] |
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I agree. What's this about 6-4 and 6-5 though? |
Author: | Nurio [ Sat Dec 03, 2016 5:53 pm ] |
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Whoops. That's a mistake. Edited. I meant 5 instead of 6... Guess I still have SoJ fresh on my mind |
Author: | Going for Miles [ Sat Dec 03, 2016 7:57 pm ] |
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I tried to do a quick overview using D.A McCoy's method of scoring each case (although I used a scale from 1 to 10) and calculating the average for each game. I don't remember every case very well, especially DD I seriously need to play to revise my vague at best impressions of the cases. (Also, I only counted the main games in their own rights, not standalone DLC cases and not 1-5 as it wasn't part of the original PW1.) 1: Apollo Justice 2. Trials and Tribulations 3. Phoenix Wright 4. Spirit of Justice 5. Justice for All 6. Gyakuten Kenji 2 7. Dual Destinies 8. Professor Layton vs Phoenix Wright 9. Ace Attorney Investigations As far as I remember, this order seems pretty legit to me. AJ has its issues and flimsy execution, but I like all of the cases very much. 4-2 is one of my absolute favourite cases, 4-1 is my favourite tutorial case etc. I tend to put PW over T&T but in all honesty that's mostly because of 1-4. T&T has a nice flow to it, and the segment where you play as Edgeworth puts it high on my list in its own right, also getting to play as Mia was great; it was neatly put together and also offered some fresh stuff like that. PLvsPW is hard to judge alongside the other entries; the placement on the list only tells where its court segments place, not the entire game in itself. With regards to this I'm curious, how well do you remember each case? I had a hard time just giving each a score, I'd never be able to flesh out my feelings about every case in the series like some of you are doing here, not without recently having played the case in question. |
Author: | Thunder84 [ Sun Dec 04, 2016 3:54 am ] |
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Time to get into the next pair of cases, and this is where the first surprise(s?) show up. Spoiler: Spirit of Justice, Trials and Tribulations |
Author: | Southern Corn [ Sun Dec 04, 2016 4:44 am ] |
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Hey there GfM! Didn't expect to see you here,lol. I wouldn't trust averages myself. The cases are indeed a huge factor in all of this,but take in the general stuff-the MCs,the overall presentation,the music and gameplay....then you can have a clear image of the games in your mind. With just averaging the cases,my top three game rankings were completely different from my actual top three game rankings. Oh,if you want to know how I remember each individual case,well,usually I've replayed it by the time I get to it,or I remember the gist of it. I don't really remember some of the Layton trials though,so I've had to read up on them to fully recall it. Maybe watch some playthroughs,or read a Wikipedia summary. That's my advice to you. Also maybe don't rank DD if you haven't actually played it. Brammimond didn't rank AJ,and Thunder84 isn't ranking DGS. I recommend doing only the ones you actually played,because the gameplay is also an important factor in all of this. Oh,and my ranking coming later today. |
Author: | Thunder84 [ Sun Dec 04, 2016 5:08 am ] |
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Southern Corn wrote: I wouldn't trust averages myself. The cases are indeed a huge factor in all of this,but take in the general stuff-the MCs,the overall presentation,the music and gameplay....then you can have a clear image of the games in your mind. With just averaging the cases,my top three game rankings were completely different from my actual top three game rankings. Pretty much this. Going by strict rankings for averages can really be inaccurate. Usually, the difference between someone's top two cases and bottom two cases are very different, but using a numbers-only method makes the difference the exact same. |
Author: | Southern Corn [ Sun Dec 04, 2016 5:55 am ] |
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Number 28, your turn! Oh hey,almost forgot. With this and the next one,we will not only be through with the Good Tier,but also officially be halfway through the list! Hooray! So let's not waste any more time,and continue with the rankings. ---- Spoiler: All the games [previous ranking][hint box][next ranking] |
Author: | Going for Miles [ Sun Dec 04, 2016 10:34 am ] |
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Hiya, SC! I peek around a little everywhere xD That's smart, with the summaries and watching playthroughs SC and Thunder: I agree that it's not a foolproof method for ranking the games and there are indeed more factors to it. I mostly wanted to see how it'd turn out, and as it were, my result felt very accurate about how I feel about the games overall. |
Author: | Nurio [ Sun Dec 04, 2016 11:59 am ] |
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Spoiler: SC-28 |
Author: | Southern Corn [ Sun Dec 04, 2016 1:14 pm ] |
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Gfm:Heya! Yeah,if you don't want to do it,then good for you! I'm not forcing you to do it anyway lol. Nurio:Hmm,seems like we think the exact opposite of this case,I'm afraid. But come on,we know you know what I meant by 'literal' |
Author: | Nurio [ Sun Dec 04, 2016 4:59 pm ] |
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The exact opposite, but it all evens out to give about the same mark for the case, I think. I think I would put that case around that place on my list too, though I couldn't say for certain since I never really tried making a list (and don't really have much of a desire to either) |
Author: | Southern Corn [ Mon Dec 05, 2016 10:39 am ] |
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I can get you there. I was initially reluctant on this list because it was rather tricky to rank everything. Especially the middle part. |
Author: | Southern Corn [ Mon Dec 05, 2016 1:20 pm ] |
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Finally,with this case,we will be halfway through the list! A historical moment indeed for this list! Number 27, come up here now! ---- Spoiler: All the gaems [previous ranking][hint box][next ranking] |
Author: | Thunder84 [ Tue Dec 06, 2016 3:55 am ] |
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Welp, my internet broked yesterday and I wasn't able to get another two out. So, here's 3 instead. Spoiler: Layton v Wright, Ace Attorney, Investigations |
Author: | Southern Corn [ Tue Dec 06, 2016 5:47 am ] |
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And here it is: The Very Good Tier Now this is where things start to get interesting. Mostly third and fourth cases here,but I have no major problems with the cases here. From here on out,the rankings on the cases will be way more positive,from 7 and above,but below 7.5. So let's start it with #26... ---- Spoiler: All the gaems [previous ranking][hint box][next ranking] |
Author: | Nurio [ Tue Dec 06, 2016 1:22 pm ] |
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Spoiler: SC-27 |
Author: | Nurio [ Tue Dec 06, 2016 1:36 pm ] |
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Spoiler: SC-26 |
Author: | Southern Corn [ Tue Dec 06, 2016 1:47 pm ] |
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Hm,seems that you agree on the first one,but not so much on the second one. I definitely saw that coming. Spoiler: SC-26 |
Author: | Nerdowl [ Tue Dec 06, 2016 7:39 pm ] |
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This thread is interesting. I'll try to do my own rankings and thoughts properly once I've finished SoJ. (I'm also avoiding looking at too much detail in here because I don't want to bias my own thoughts) I'd wait till I've played PWvsPL but it is near impossible to get at a sensible price in the UK these days. What I will post for now is the order I'd put the games in (Excluding SoJ because I'm only partway through case 3) based on the last time I tried to make a list (just bear in mind this may well change):- 1. Ace Attorney Investigations (Points Average: 18) 2. Dual Destinies (Points Average: 17) 3. Ace Attorney: Phoenix Wright (Points Average: 16.2) 4. Ace Attorney: Apollo Justice (Points Average: 15) 5. Ace Attorney: Trials & Tribulations (Points Average: 11.8*) 6. Ace Attorney: Justice For All (Points Average: 10.75) How the points average is worked out: I had a list of the cases ranked from my favourite to least favourite. I gave the top one 29 points (because there is currently 29 cases in this list) and the bottom one 1 point. I then added up all the cases from one game and divided the result by the number of cases in that game to get the points average. *This is the one most likely to change because I haven't actually completely finished Bridge to the Turnabout so its ranking in my list is provisional. |
Author: | Going for Miles [ Tue Dec 06, 2016 7:47 pm ] |
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Regarding PLvsPW: I noticed that just earlier today as well (when I was buying DD). In the 3DSshop, it was almost twice as expensive as DD and considerably more expensive than SoJ, too. Anyway, I like that Investgations and DD are your favourites, that seems pretty unusual (at least AAI) Also, interesting way of scoring. |
Author: | Nerdowl [ Tue Dec 06, 2016 8:41 pm ] |
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Going for Miles wrote: Regarding PLvsPW: I noticed that just earlier today as well (when I was buying DD). In the 3DSshop, it was almost twice as expensive as DD and considerably more expensive than SoJ, too. I saw a physical copy in an independent second hand shop over here a while back. They wanted £60 for it if I remember rightly! Uh... no. I actually own the soundtrack CDs for PLvsPW, which you'd think would be the harder thing to get ahold of but I found a bundle on ebay that was already in the UK (Contained the PLvsPW soundtrack, the AAI & AAI2 soundtracks, and the AJ soundtrack) Going for Miles wrote: Anyway, I like that Investgations and DD are your favourites, that seems pretty unusual (at least AAI) Also, interesting way of scoring. Thanks. Not sure this is the best way of scoring things as an outlying case can drag things down (case in point - Turnabout Big Top in AA2 is basically the only reason that isn't above AA3 in my ratings. AA2s average without Turnabout Bigtop would be 14), but I do personally agree with AAI being top because I found it the most consistent of all the games. It's not one great case being compared to one terrible case but everything is more towards the middle. I'll try to explain that properly when I go into my rankings in more detail. |
Author: | Southern Corn [ Wed Dec 07, 2016 5:09 am ] |
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Hm,I'd like to see your detailed rankings before commenting on this. Because this is....interesting. |
Author: | Southern Corn [ Wed Dec 07, 2016 11:11 am ] |
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Greetings,everybody. Welcome to the spooooky seance! Number 25,please come up here so we can start this rite right. Ready? ---- Spoiler: all the gaems [previous ranking][hint box][next ranking] |
Author: | Nurio [ Wed Dec 07, 2016 1:02 pm ] |
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Spoiler: SC-25 |
Author: | Southern Corn [ Wed Dec 07, 2016 4:29 pm ] |
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Yeah,I can see where you're coming from. And you're right on the next one ;) |
Author: | Thunder84 [ Thu Dec 08, 2016 3:53 am ] |
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I don't have any excuses this time for missing yesterday, so I'll make it up with 3 more here. Also, now that I'm getting into the better cases, I'm gonna be a bit more detailed. Spoiler: Dual Destinies, Layton v Wright And, quick update on what cases are left. Spoiler: |
Author: | Southern Corn [ Thu Dec 08, 2016 11:43 am ] |
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'How much is 4!?',you ask? 24,of course! Number 24,come up here. You have a lil' loan to pay for us. ---- Spoiler: all the gaems [previous ranking][hint box][next ranking] |
Author: | Thunder84 [ Thu Dec 08, 2016 11:16 pm ] |
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Whaaa?! I'm actually getting a ranking out on time?! What is this?! Spoiler: Prosecutor's Path, Investigations |
Author: | Nurio [ Fri Dec 09, 2016 4:29 pm ] |
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Spoiler: SC-24 |
Author: | Southern Corn [ Fri Dec 09, 2016 5:06 pm ] |
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And Nurio/Furio headcanon'd. But anyway... 23,23...yes,we're having you on. Please come in,and give us a lovely performance! ----- Spoiler: all the gaems [previous ranking][hint box][next ranking] |
Author: | Nurio [ Fri Dec 09, 2016 5:58 pm ] |
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Southern Corn wrote: Sure. Hundredth. Spoiler: SC-23 |
Author: | Thunder84 [ Fri Dec 09, 2016 11:55 pm ] |
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Well what do you know, I caught up to SC. On to 24 and 23! Spoiler: Apollo Justice, Trials and Tribulations |
Author: | JesusMonroe [ Sat Dec 10, 2016 12:04 am ] |
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I just realized that the reason Takumi made Phoenix good at poker is because he's good at bluffing *facepalm* |
Author: | Nurio [ Sat Dec 10, 2016 12:19 am ] |
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By the way, Thunder84, I want to say, I do read your reviews, but I'm not really commenting on them since it's a bit redundant. I'd say the same things I'd say to SC's reviews, except in a different order |
Author: | Thunder84 [ Sat Dec 10, 2016 2:19 am ] |
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Nurio wrote: By the way, Thunder84, I want to say, I do read your reviews, but I'm not really commenting on them since it's a bit redundant. I'd say the same things I'd say to SC's reviews, except in a different order Oh, it's not a problem. I kinda guessed that from the get go, and I've been reading your feedback. It's all good. |
Author: | Southern Corn [ Sat Dec 10, 2016 2:58 am ] |
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@Nurio Yeah,hundred posts is a huge achievement. Congrats! @Thunder84 Well,with two posts a day instead of one,you're bound to catch up to me at some point. And as Nurio pointed out,I also can't exactly comment on your posts due to the same reason. Sorry. |
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