That's an interesting point. I assume that the point of the game was to have Phoenix on 'trial' by player 'jury' throughout it [ie. some 'trials' such as the trial over Phoenix's character in the mind of the player, can't be up to black and white and 'decisive evidence', comment on jurist systems which can perhaps better consider the whole situation etc etc]

I think part of the problem is that some people are more rule-oriented than others. In some cases, a morally/ethically beneficial action may break a rule. Individuals will assign more weight to the severity of the crime 'break a rule!' than others, even if breaking said rule didn't cause or be likely to cause harm. And mud sticks, as they say. Even by 4-4 revelations, people's attitudes to Phoenix will be coloured by false ones they may have acquired in 4-1.

People have got some pretty terrible impressions judging by fanfic.

I can't believe people think he shouldn't be a lawyer again because of the forged ace. I mean, his life was on the line to start with, as well as Orly's, and it was his one chance to stop Kristoph getting away again. Most people would probably bend a few rules in a life-and-death situation.

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Somebody posted another "make a sign" site on the NG forums. A casino themed one. So this was my entry:

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Amen.

why does everyone call him hobo?

he's not a hobo(for as far as i know), so why call him hobo?

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Because he looks like one. I think it's mostly the stubble. And the semi-stoned attitude.
Also, HoboNick (or HoboHodo) sounds a lot better than FutureNick or HoboPhoenixButNotReally, no?

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i like futurenick better then hobohodo because i never knew who was meant by hobohodo. and since he doesn't look like a hobo but more like a guy who needs a shave to me.

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I personally like calling him Urban Nick.

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A bump for great justice!

Now onto a different topic, what do you see Phoenix doing in the next AJ game?

*people start shouting out the names of various female characters, and a few male characters*

I said "what" not "who".

I honestly can't see Phoenix saying in that deadbeat pianist job, 4-4 was proof enough he hates it. For the most part, I'd like to see Phoenix becoming a lawyer again. But if that isn't a possibility for whatever reason, a private investigator would be great as well. Phoenix has always been a guy who's devoted to helping people and finding the truth, and he should do something that puts his talents and ideals to good use.

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Am I the only one who gets offended when people refer to pheonix as "hobo"?
It's so mean :(

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Actually, he looks more like old-guy-who-wants-to-look-cool. Not that he looks ancient, per se.

Yeah, I wonder why people call him a hobo since he does have a living, no matter how shady it may be. Still, it's the shortest way I can think of calling him. And since AJ, I've considered "hobo" as a term of endearment. In fact, I call everyone with a beanie a hobo.

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Hobo is actually a fashion statement too, not just a social statement. It's a sub culture fashion, like Lolita is. You don't have to like it though- fashion is one of those taste things. It comes and goes. I think the hobo/boho look was popular back when the game came out.

That, and they probably wanted to rough him up abit too. I think it's endearing on him :) I like Phoenix in a bit of stubble ^^

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I hope if anything, he gets rid of that beanie by the next AA game. I miss seeing his spikey hair.

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indeed simplicity...you are right


i feel very sad about the fact he got disbarred wonder how edgy or the others will take that

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QFT
It covers his eyebrows too. They did it on purpose.He's lost his identity.
I knew this, and it confirmed it in the artbook.

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It's been a while since I last saw you here, icer, so... welcome back.

IDK, I miss his spikey hair too but I have to admit that his beanie is kind of cool.

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Wow; why didn't I notice that before? That's amazing!

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Oh thank you <3

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So I saw this fan vid

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jGP5TLbEwfg

Pretty good tribute to Phoenix and his life I think.

His smile. It made me melt And the chuckle <33

I always liked Phoenix, but it took until that smile to make me love him >__< It's 'cause we never see him facing you in the previous games 'cause we're always playing as him. He also mellowed out a lot (he laughs after being punched by Apollo, after being hit by a car etc), but still sarcastic as ever. I'm a bit sad we don't get to read his internal dialogue ('cept 4-4), but it seems to be on the outside now.

My heart was breaking when I was playing 4-4, and it still breaks whenever I hear that music "Reminisce - Forgotten Legend" being played... (he's not forgotten >__< )

I don't mind the "hobo" nicknames, I see it as a term of endearment, not really an insult, even though he does have a job.

As for the 4-1 forgery thing, I re-read the script (also replaying 4-1, but not there yet), it is a bit of a dirty trick (but hey he's done that before), but technically it wasn't formally accepted as evidence. He made it and had Apollo present it to raise the possibility of the secret passageway, which was the truth anyway. It was a bit underhanded because Kristoph couldn't call him out on it, because Phoenix said "only the real killer would know it's a fake", and if Kristoph objected he would be admitting his crime. It's kinda like using fake evidence on Tigre, it presents the possibility and plants doubt in the judge's mind. I guess some fans don't like it for the fact that he used Apollo, who was oblivious and rather admired him, to do it.

And for 4-4, being all Chessmaster, was awesome (beanie cam ftw!) XD Though I found it a bit weird that the court system would let a disbarred lawyer plan out and handle everything for the new Jurist system... Maybe Edgeworth or Lana helped pull some strings? Or maybe he's just that awesome and legendary XD

For AJ2, I'd LOVE to see him back in a suit and back in court <333 I would totally melt. He belongs in the courtroom after all. Even the Judge said so:

: "You do belong in the courtroom after all, Mr. Wright."

Unfortunately though, I don't see Capcom doing that; fans were already complaining that Nick stole the show from Apollo in his own game (which is true, not that I mind), and I fear that if Nick is back (as the mentor position held by Mia), Apollo will never step out of his shadow... (It will also help if Apollo got a more unique personality.. I don't mind him, but can't help but felt he was a bit of a Nick clone...)

That video is awesome btw.. I need to do some fanart and wallpapers of HoboNick ^___^

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^ You've made some really great points! I really like this new Phoenix. It's nice seeing him without being in his mind. And I just ADORE his interactions with Trucy. They make me melt. ^_^

I don't mind about the bloody ace thing. It wasn't really accepted as evidence, anyway. Apollo was just showing a possibility for why someone would switch the cards. Just a possibility. Phoenix said he gave it to Trucy, so that ace wasn't really at the scene of the crime, because Kristoph would have taken it already. I find it hilarious how Apollo punched him, and all Phoenix was suggesting he should yell "Take That!" next time. XD

I do wonder what Phoenix was doing in those 2 months between 4-1 and 4-2. After Kristoph was arrested, you think he would take some action in finding his motive?

I rather have Phoenix be kind of like a mentor like Mia. Or something along the lines of how he just appeared for a bit in 4-2 and 4-3. Just a little advice here and there. I think he should strive for a better Jurist system (a job like he had in 4-4), so not only he would still be working for the law, but also not step on Apollo's shoes of becoming an attorney again. I really want to see more characterization of the new characters to this series, especially Apollo's. *is an Apollo fan*

It would break my heart if they got rid of Phoenix. I rather have him stay in the series. It makes the series fuller that way. I love the interactions between Phoenix, Trucy and Apollo. I just love fluffy family stuff, especially now Apollo is in the mix to make the 3-person family be crazier. :D Not to mention the relationship between Apollo and Trucy. (Boy, do I love sibling relationships. <3)

You got to hand it to Phoenix to solve many of the mysteries of the past with the Gramayres. Still, there are more mysteries, and I hope to see some of them solved in AJ2. I wouldn't mind playing a little bit of Phoenix in the next game (maybe some scenes with young!Trucy and Phoenix?), but it's time for Apollo to step up to the plate.

So that's my opinion on the new Phoenix. (I'm not used to calling AJ Phoenix, Hobo!Phoenix. But I guess it is a term of endearment.)

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And so, I've found myself agreeing with the both of you. Finally! People who breathe new life to this place and freshen it up! (Not to mention an Apollo fan who approves of Hobo!Nick.)

One main reason why I don't like Apollo right now: he's a bit stuffy. Unlike Nick, he isn't a lovable pushover. But I think Nick can mellow him out a bit as he gains experience. Once he gets used to the pressure and the advice, he doesn't have to be so stiff anymore. Though many believe Nick shouldn't be in the new game, I think he'll be very useful in developing Apollo and Trucy's characters. After all, he's gonna be watching over the both of them, even with his jerky facade, he'll be there to give the saving throw. I'm just sad he's not a lawyer anymore, and I'm definitely gonna miss the old days. But with Nick changing the face of Justice (no pun intended) even from outside the courtroom, it's gonna be exciting, indeed. The criminals have gotten smarter and the old system isn't working. Phoenix--and don't forget Apollo--will be the catalysts for the start of a new trial, a new future in dishing out the law.

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I thought Nick was on his "secret mission" to gather data for his investigation on Kristoph? Or he could be working on the MASON system (which makes me wonder who built that thing.. since it's basically a virtual program/game, and Nick said he was bad with technology (he doesn't even use a computer >__< ))


Me too, I remember the multiple times Mia had to come in and "rescue" Nick when all hope seems to be lost, and tell him not to give up. I admit if Nick were to do that, it'd be a bit repetitive, but I kinda loved 4-1 because he was giving Apollo hints like Mia gave him hints. (okay maybe it was more "manipulating Apollo and point him to the truth" than simple hints XD). However, that would mean he'd be taking Trucy's place as "defense aid", and that probably wouldn't work. (although you have to wonder, does Trucy skip school to go with Apollo to court? XD)

I think Nick working for the law in general, or rather working for reforming the law, would also work, rather than him being just an attorney. Or he can be just another attorney working on cases that Apollo (ie the player) isn't working on. We see that the Law offices in AA-verse can have multiple attorneys, so I don't see why Nick can't be off doing his own lawyer thing while Apollo does his.

I see AJ as a transition series (since a lot of it is actually about Nick), as Nick put it, he's helping Apollo "turn the page" of his story. As sad as I am not being able to play as Nick anymore, Apollo does need room and time to develop as his own character, and to do that, he needs Nick not to overshadow him >__< I'm willing to give Apollo a chance for his own character, but a lot of times in AJ I felt like I was playing as because I found a lot of his thought process and dialogue were like Nick's, and his interaction with Trucy during investigation felt a bit similar to Nick and Maya's ('cause Trucy is a Genki girl sidekick type)... the only difference is that Apollo's a lot more confident than


Yeah I think as long as Trucy's in the game, Nick kinda has to show up, even if it's a small part. I too love the interaction between Nick and Apollo. Besides, Nick has to pass down his techniques to someone XD

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I actually like Hobo!Phoenix than Lawyer!Phoenix. Though, I think they aren't that different, just different jobs, and lot more life experience being a single father and all. He is still the same lovable character we all know and love. With Trucy around, perceiving his every move, you would think Phoenix would need to stop being so easy to read. Bluffing really helped his life, not only in court but in poker, too. And Trucy was there to strengthened that trait... or that's what I think, anyway.


Apollo is more passionate, uptight, and more interested in getting the real criminal. Phoenix really cares about his friends, and would do anything to help them, while Apollo probably don't have many friends and family (but what do we know? We don't know who hung out with as a kid, while we know that Phoenix has Larry and Edgeworth). Phoenix was surrounded by many people (though, who knows what happened to them after he lost his badge). Apollo had his mentor, but when Kristoph was found guilty of murder, you would think he would be less likely to trust people and care for them... maybe that is a bit extreme, but yeah...
But you made a good point, Phoenix and Apollo will strive to improve the system to get criminals what they deserve. :D



Yeah. Wasn't it made by a made-up company from what I read somewhere...? He probably asked someone else to make the game for the jurists to play. Though, the contradictions when you present something from the present to the past is confusing. I just think what Phoenix actually did wasn't the same thing as what happened in the Mason System. Phoenix probably had to do other things to get his evidence, and he made the Mason System be simpler.


Well, Mia was there during important times for Phoenix when Maya couldn't help. In AJ2, maybe Phoenix could be like that? (And I think Phoenix let Trucy skip school. What a great father. lol)

I agree that AJ is a transition game. It must have been hard for the developers to make the transition smoothly from Phoenix to Apollo. I think they did it nicely. :D
And after playing AJ a number of times after knowing the relationship between Trucy and Apollo, I get much joy reading their interactions. I get overexcited how they seem so much like siblings, but I think I'm exaggerating. XD But playing the game for the first time, it may seem like a repeat of the interaction between Phoenix and Maya because Capcom is using the same formula: main character with a sarcastic attitude with a happy teenage girl (Genki girl? Must look that up. :P).

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I think I like HoboNick slightly better too... I always prefered the laid-back characters who can still get serious when they want to be. I liked Lawyer!Nick for his belief in his friends and his concern for others. And of course, his sarcasm. But I started loving Nick after AJ because of his attitude and added awesomeness XD (not to mention he's hot I melted at his smile) *ahem* anyway... I see fans complain he changed too much, but really when you get down to it, he's still the same Nick at his core: always looking for the truth and that justice is served.

I also heard complaints about the whole forged Ace thing being not like him, and that his morals have taken a hit. Maybe so, but people's morals change over time, and it's not like he has always taken the moral high ground before (accusing Adrian Andrews for murder to save Maya for example, tricking the Judge into giving him more time XD etc). His investigation for the past 7 years has been "to find the truth", but I can't help but think part of it is for revenge... But I think losing his career and reputation must've hurt him a lot, and I bet he's probably a bit bitter underneath that nonchalant attitude. But 's passion and determination is still there, and as he said, "My past is like my logic, straight and true. Nothing's changed."



Yeah, we don't know much about Apollo's friends at all, and I think that may be part of the problem, because friends shape friends. Nick's passion came from being saved by his friends, and wanting to return the favour and help. But with Apollo, we don't know.. He cares about people I suppose, but I didn't get the "I want to save them" vibe from him that I got from Nick (well, it helps that a lot of Nick's clients are actually his friends XD)... Why did Apollo want to become a lawyer? His reasons aren't explained, even though we were playing as him. Because of the lack of history (and the bit of history we find out, Apollo doesn't actually know about XD), Apollo feels a bit flat as a character. But hopefully that will be answered later.

As for the lack of Nick's friends.... that's one of the things I was most disappointed about in AJ. I wanted to see his friends' reactions to him losing everything, esp since they've gotten so much closer on that last T&T case. And from his conversation with Trucy, it felt like he was all alone and that Trucy was the only one there for him. Add to that the fact that Kristoph was the only person who stood up for him at the Bar Association meeting... it makes me wonder what happened. I would think Gumshoe would help him investigate using his Detective position, and Edgeworth or Lana would do all they can to pull strings.. or at the very least they would offer a shoulder to cry on... was Nick too proud to go to them for help? Or did his friends abandon him?

The only explanation I can come up with is that because we're playing the game through Apollo's eyes, we don't really have a reason to meet his friends or ask Nick about them (although I really really want Trucy and Pearl to meet >__< ). And during the MASON case, we're playing through the jury, through a game that Nick created. And he felt he didn't need to put too much of his personal feelings in it, or show us (the jury) people who aren't related to the case... still, it feels a bit incomplete...

Or maybe Lana and Edgeworth (and even Franziska) did help him, I mean, how else would a disbarred lawyer get to be in charge of everything in the Jurist System? XD



Oh yeah, I think the name of the company was on the MASON logo or something, so he probably commissioned it (or the state did) or something. As for the actual 'game', yeah I found the time travelling thing weird too XD Nick's actual investigation probably went a bit differently, and he put his knowledge in the MASON system. For example, with the nail polish, he probably saw the bottle on Vera's desk and asked her about it, and it wasn't until 7 years later when he saw the same kind of bottle at Gavin's cell that he made the connection (or had proof of the connection). But he had the nailpolish from the future to present in the past to help the jury make the connection better?



True, though with Maya channelling Mia, it was a lot easier for Mia to just come out of nowhere to rescue Nick XD I don't know how Nick can come to rescue Apollo for the important parts if it's just Trucy there. But I like to see Nick passing down his ideals to Apollo. Nick went through a lot to figure out what it means to be a lawyer, and what the law means (esp during 2-4 where he had that moral dilemma, and Edgeworth and Mia being there to help him find the answers). At the end, Apollo says that he still doesn't know what the law means (after the Judge's and Klavier's profound speeches XD), so I hope he'll get to find out in AJ2. Apollo on his own believes in justice (haha pun), but he doesn't have the firm belief in his client's innocence that Nick had (which was passed down from Mia).

And haha, Nick is such a cute Daddy, and a lot of times it feels more like Trucy adopted him XD Nick has always been somewhat of a pushover, so I guess he wasn't too strict with Trucy (making Apollo exasperated XD), but you can tell he really cares about her, as he said he's the only one who knows how she trully feels.



Actually replaying 4-1, I noticed that at the end of the trial, Nick says to Apollo:
"It's your story from here on out, Apollo. Perhaps I can help you turn the next page..." which sums the game up pretty well.

Yeah, at first I found Apollo and Trucy's dynamic was much like Maya and Nick's. I kept on reminding myself "it's not too surprising Trucy reminds me of Maya, I mean, Nick raised her after all" XD But they're cute as brother-sister too, poor Apollo growing up an orphan... (actually we don't really know what happened to Nick's parents either... but a lot of his friends are like family to him)

waaaaahhh long rant is long >__< XD

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^ Well, it would seem that the forged bloody ace isn't like Phoenix, but he had done some other things to trick the court to find the truth. Like bluffing at the end of 3-3. He does goes to extremes at times.
I don't know if Phoenix wanted revenge. We do not know why he did what he did those 7 years. But I believe he did it to find the truth. He wouldn't want the truth be hidden, that's not like him. I agree with you about his attitude is the same.

Yeah, Apollo must have a reason for becoming a lawyer. We don't know much about Apollo like we did with Phoenix's first game (though, Capcom wasn't thinking about making a sequel, so they developed his character a lot compare to Apollo), which I think make Apollo really mysterious.

Well, I think the Bar Association only consists of a few people not including Phoenix's friends to avoid bias, but I could be wrong. But yeah... where are his friends? But since we are in Apollo's view, there is no need to his Phoenix's friends. Cameos may be nice.

In 4-3, Phoenix came by during the recess to give him evidence, but that isn't as powerful as when Mia helping him during court at the crucial moment. Maybe Trucy can do a magic trick to make Phoenix appear? XD Then he can teach Apollo what law is.

Reading long rants are fun as long as I agree with them. lol

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Yeah, I think Phoenix seems to be more concerned about the Truth and his client than his own well-being... at the end of Zak's trial, when the Judge was about to pronounce a sentence, Nick seemed so calm... As Drew Mishim said later, "That day... the entire court descended into chaos. Only you stood still, your eyes calmly watching." I don't know how he managed to stay so calm, I was panicking and crying and my heart was breaking for him >__< And Nick seemed more concerned about letting his client down than him losing his career and reputation.. maybe Nick didn't know at that point that he would be disbarred (he would get punished, but maybe he didn't know how severe?) but we do?


Haha, maybe Trucy can pull him out of her Magic Panties XD Or wherever Mr. Hat came from. Could you imagine that instead of Mr. Hat popping out, Nick comes out and comes to the rescue?

Oh yeah, I guess Nick doesn't have too many defense lawyer friends other than Mia, all his friends (who have any power) are detectives, police, or Prosecutors XD I suppose he does know Grossberg, but I doubt that guy can do anything anyway. I was just thinking maybe Lana and Edgey would know some higher-ups in the Bar Association and help him out... though the fact Nick didn't go to prison seems to suggest he didn't get the worst possible punishment, but that might be Gavin's doing.




hehe, I agree and 's a large reason I'm kinda obsessed with the games right now XD (but now people think I like Hobos in general just because I like ..... )

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^ Phoenix still cares about the people around him, and does not think about his situation. He's so selfless. :D

rofl It would be kind of creepy if Phoenix came out of Trucy's magic panties. XD Knowing how freaked out Apollo can get, he might faint during trial if that were to happen. lololol

Well, Phoenix did got the "worst possible punishment" (as said in the game), which was he lose his status as a defense attorney. It would be wrong if he was sent to prison.

The more I play AJ, the more I fall in love with the characters in the game, and that includes Phoenix. I am really excited for GS5, and hope to learn more about the cast. :D

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haha, now I wanna make a comic of Nick popping out of Trucy's magic panties 'cause we all know it's connected to some interdimensional space XD

I think Nick could be punished worse for falsifying evidence, like going to jail. The problem was that they had solid proof the evidence was forged (by having Drew testify), whereas for other people before, it was merely suspicion. Nick presented the false evidence unknowningly, but he couldn't prove at the time that he didn't know it was forged, or that he didn't commission the forgery

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I love Phoenix, and I love his hat in AJ.

But I can't help wondering... Maybe he wears the hat because he's balding?



I wonder if he'll come back in the next game looking like Winston Payne.

It's to obscure his lost identity. Even says so in the artbook. (Since his hair and eyebrows are so signature and he was so obsessed with his hair.)
And if they ret-con it to your idea, I'll kill somebody.

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I think part of the problem is he just seems different because we're not in his POV, wheres in the PW trilogy we could see his thoughts during a conversation and we visualize his face as he talks. In this game, we're seeing Phoenix from someone else's perspective so he seems a lot different then how we envisioned him.

Though I do admit the writers seemed to go a bit too far to try and "demonize" his attitude, possibly so we'll think the guy's a lost cause and fall in love with Apollo instead, what with the forged ace and some vague dark past he apparently experienced. The explanation of what happened in the final case kinda comes off as a half-hearted apology to those who like the guy (actually with the way they portrayed him in the flashback case it's more of 1/4th-hearted apology).

Sadly judging from some people's forum posts and fanfiction, they didn't pick up on how his attitude is just a facade for his ultimate seven year plan to clear his name, and just labeled him an insensitive jerk who dosen't care about anyone or anything. I'll never forget one fiction where Pearl comes to Phoenix to ask for his help, and he not only ignores her plees, but even ends up insulting her. It frankly disturbs me how much people think so badly of him now.



*sighs* Yes, the forged ace. The inevitable literal trump card the anti-Phoenix people play whenever anyone tries to defend his actions in this game, most of the time using it as an all-purpose excuse to say he shouldn't be allowed to be a lawyer again. The problem is, those people don't think about when and why he played that card. He wasn't using it to give Apollo an unfair advantage or cheat or anything (that's what Zak does :P ), he was on trial for murder. It was a life or death situation.

If he didn't use that card, either he or Olga would had been falsely labeled the killer, possibly getting life or the death penalty, while Kristoph walks away scott-free, likely to kill again to further hide the skeletons in his closet. Perhaps Kristoph would had even gone so far as to kill Apollo for "betraying" him. Problem is people don't take any of this into consideration and just squawk out about how "ZOMG PHOENIX'S AN IMMORAL FORGER.", even though it'd be far less moral to allow an innocent woman to take the fall for him.



That always bothered me to. The only hint that Maya is even alive and friendly with Phoenix is that stack of DVDs in the hospital, and even Takumi had to fight to get that reference in, as vague as it was. So where the heck were they during that horrible time seven years ago? An interview with the creators basically said they wanted to leave the fate of his friends up to the fans, which one of laziest excuses I see in writing.



I think if that much sugary sweetness were to come together in one room it would give the entire country diabetes. .____.



See that's the only thing I can think of that makes any sense. For a series that used to do such a great job explaining things, this game dosen't explain squat.



Even if it did tend to raise more questions then it answered, like how did this system get set up in the first place? Part of what the jurists see in this MASON system is Phoenix's investigation of Drew's murder, which means Phoenix somehow recorded all of it, got it approved by the court, and processed into the MASON's programming all within the course of a day. It's less confusing then time-traveling flashbacks, but not by much.



Perhaps that could be true, but I'm still conflicted on the question of how Phoenix gets a photo of Apollo from Brushel after Zak's death, then presents it to Zak THE NIGHT OF HIS DEATH.



Sadly it was about as smooth as broken glass, and just as painful.



That and I'm sure he wanted to clear his name to. Going over the final case in his POV I can see he genuinely misses being an attorney, which makes me really hope he takes the bar exam again. Poor guy really deserves it.



Honestly, I always get bothered by that nickname for him. It's like laughing at a guy in a wheelchair and calling him "wheelboy" or something. One person I recall did a horrible fan fiction where he was literally a homeless bum in every sense of the word, but they tried to play it for laughs. I put people like them in the same group as those who laugh at dead baby jokes. ._.'

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I first hate the new Phoenix, but gradually warmed up to him. I think he didn't change that much; he's still Lawyer!Phoenix, just without his badge and more calm and collected. However, if there is AJ2, I hope they change his clothes. I hate the 'mysterious hobo' look.

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I like the future Phoenix better than the younger one, personally. I always hate it when people get all mad about his ZOMG BIG PERSONALIY CHANGE!!1! Phoenix is still Phoenix, and it's not like people stay exactly the same as they grow older. Just look at how much he changed from College Nick to Lawer Nick- that's quite a bigger change than future Nick, amiright? Plus his relationship with Trucy is the cutest thing!!! He would be the best dad ever

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As much as it was nice to see Phoenix return i dont think he was justified in this game. As everyone has stated he came back more mature and wiser and more cynical which is understandable, he unfairly lost his career, but the change in personality was almost too much of an alteration. At the end of T&T he was a caring guy who was serious enough to see things through as well as sensitive enough to support Maya and Pearls. He might have acted goofy on a number of occasions and even panicked, but thats what made him human.

During his final case in AJ he was a bit more cocky, maybe even overconfident as his opponent was a "newbie" but he still retained his seriousness as well as his respectful manner and even his embarrassment when he got things wrong. Also throughout the mason system he stays as level headed Phoenix even in the present sections where he would have been "hobo".

But during his appearances as Hobo Wright his personality changes into a persona more similar to Godot, as in he becomes more snarky and cryptic in his sentences. He also loses his human qualities by not showing fear or embarrassment when confronted, plus he almost seems too robotic in the fact that he never takes anything apollo says seriously and always tries to change the subject or belittles Apollo's opinion, in the exact same style that Godot belittled Phoenix in T&T. This version of Phoenix does not seem right as he is colder and bitter, far less friendly than the Phoenix that we were first introduced to at the start of the series.

(also on a side note:
1.If Phoenix let his stubble grow, judging from the area it covers, he would have the same small beard as Diego Armando XD
2. Even though Ema is shocked to find out about Wright she would have had to encounter him at some point after his disbarment as he has the smiley badge Ema wears in AAI meaning he aquirred it after Ema permanently returned from living in Europe.)

Just lil' things i noticed :)

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