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Okay, if this has been brought up, sorry. I haven't played GS3 yet, so this is impossible, double sorry.

Now, what I think is, at the end of JFA, you know that the game comes with a "good" ending, where everyone is re-united and they all do they silly joke of giving Phoenix the bills.


However, they also feature the bad ending, which involces Phoenix running away from court, never seeing Maya again.


Now, this is where it gets confusing. I believe the series branches off from here. The good ending leads diredtly to GS3, pretty linear enough.

The bad ending ends Phoenix's career, since he accused the wrong person of being guilty, and lost his best friend. This would seem logical enough to assume at this time he became Hobohodo, and left court forever. How he knows Garyuu is a mystery.


So, overview.

PW:AA- PW: JFA- (Good Ending)->GS3
(Bad Ending)-> GS4.


This more or less has some flaws I'm sure, but it was something I thought up with my free time today.
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The only thing is that Maya doesn't die per say in the 'bad ending', since Phoenix did get Matt his aquital, it's more of he was too ashamed to see her again.

But other than that, I think it's a good idea.
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This theory has been stated before and I believe it was shot down but I don't remember why.
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Oh, right. The bad ending in JFA is just a game over of sorts. Forgot about that.
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There is only one ending in JFA. The scene you're referencing as a "bad ending" is nothing more than a glorified Game Over screen. It does not count as an alternate ending, nor is it canon. Aside from that, it wouldn't make sense to just write off an entire games' worth of cases as a convenience.
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Konran wrote:
Oh, right. The bad ending in JFA is just a game over of sorts. Forgot about that.


Yeah. It's like the ultimate kick to the crotch for screwing up the very last part of the game.
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Hobo Phoenix seems a little too laid back and confident to have had something like the bad ending of JFA happen to him.

Then again 7-8 years is a long time to get over something.
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And it is the type of thing for Capcom to do...

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Not only has this theory come up before, it just doesn't make much sense. GS3 did well. Capcom is not about to ret-con it. (They couldn't even taken DMC2 out of canon).

Besides, all the promotions for GS4 have been "7 years after GS3." If they meant to go off GS2 it would be "8 years after GS2."
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How about this?

Phoenix became so good at his job that he made so much money and decided to part ways with it. Maya eventually went to become the head of Kurain with no hard feelings toward Nick. So Phoenix decided to become a poker player and a pianist just for the fun of it.

Then again this wouldn't make alot of sense since Phoenix claims he's been playing poker for 7 years. So whatever caused him to leave happened shortly after GS3.
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E~A wrote:
How about this?

Phoenix became so good at his job that he made so much money and decided to part ways with it. Maya eventually went to become the head of Kurain with no hard feelings toward Nick. So Phoenix decided to become a poker player and a pianist just for the fun of it.

Then again this wouldn't make alot of sense since Phoenix claims he's been playing poker for 7 years. So whatever caused him to leave happened shortly after GS3.

Maybe he was lying? Payne
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This reminds me too much of LoZ's multiple timeline theory. Headaches galore.
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I also think that the bad ending is simply that. he stops being a lawyer, and is too ashamed to see anyone. to make a sequal on something that won't even count for the other half of the game (in the sense of a bad ending) doesn't seem logical.
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Blademaster_Orca wrote:
There is only one ending in JFA. The scene you're referencing as a "bad ending" is nothing more than a glorified Game Over screen. It does not count as an alternate ending, nor is it canon. Aside from that, it wouldn't make sense to just write off an entire games' worth of cases as a convenience.


Case 1-5 had also a sort of glorified Game over screen. If you show the piece of leather too early to Gant, Ema will be accused for murder along with Lana. Phoenix will scream "NOoooo!" till the game over screen pops up. I think the creators are adding other options to get the guilty verdict besides losing "!" marks and lifebar points, by just doing something wrong.

I don't really know about this theory, I don't think they did all these magnificent characters in Gs3 for nothing. I doubt it. Godot
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I put this forward back on CR. It was mowed down violently. :(

Out of curiosity, does GS3 have a similar Game Over thing in any case? I know there's the one in GS3-2 where you can lose by just pressing the wrong thing, but is there one in the last case?
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I also think so... And I was worried about something... I thought Capcom would take advantage of this "bad ending" so they'd be able to just release Gyakuten Saiban 4 after Justice For All in Europe and America... Perhaps it was just an idiot idea Will Powers
Maya: It would be good to see you with the new actor, Matt Engarde.
Phoenix: (What?! The Nickel Samurai speaks French?!... No, Engarde, the actor, of course.
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They finally found out Nick never passed his bar exam?
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My theory is that it's all a trick to train all the newbie lawyers.
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My theory is that it's all a trick to train all the newbie lawyers.


AHHHH! IT'S A CONSPIRACY!!!! *EXPLODES*
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