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I can't see why people don't like Klavier.
He's a nice person and at the same time a good prosecutor, and not to mention that he's the first prosecutor who's (first) motive was to find the truth, not something silly like getting guilty verdicts for his record.

You just answered your own question. We people who don't like him think he's too boring of a character. He feels like a cardboard cutout with no depth to his character or even any reason to care about him as anything more then being the prosecutor rival.

... I think Capcom did that on purpose.
Klavier's lack of character is caused by his background not being explored, like Apollo. I think it's more then likely both of their stories will be shown in GS5. Also, not having a background actually makes him a bit interesting. All of the prosecutors before him had their stories told (except for Payne, but...) in the first game they appear in.
Not having his story told yet is a bit refreshing and also adds some mystery to his character, too.

We people who don't like him think he's too boring of a character. He feels like a cardboard cutout with no depth to his character or even any reason to care about him as anything more then being the prosecutor rival.

anyway as far as klavier-- i guess he is just a huge difference from the other prosecutors (edgey, franzy, papa vK, payne, godot) we faced because they were a bit antagonistic. I dunno klavier from the start was just like "hi there i'm klavier" not to mention he doesn't hold grudges or take loses personally...

when you think of it that does make him a really good guy. but it also makes him sort of an enigma...

what are klavier's motivations? why is he a prosecutor instead of a defense like his bro? why did he study in germany? what are his true feelings about his bro? of course we see he is troubled by the turnout of his bro and daryan being not quite who he thought they were but he also seems a bit incomplete in that regard.

even franziska and miles we know how they felt but klavier it's strange. like he feels it but then covers it with a smile. i suppose you can say then that he's a deep character because there's a lot under the surface... but to be honest it just looks like the writers didn't think that far. he seems incomplete.

As opposed to Franziska?

IF YOU DO NOT LIKE KLAVIER THEN WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU DOING ON THIS THREAD?

Hahaha! It's so cool this thread is still going

*feels good for starting it*

Well, it is Klavier's thread, isn't it? XP

Random fact that I came across in the translated artbook: Young!Klavier wears Gavinner's-brand cargo pants and army boots. O_o I had a feeling they had their own brand for merchandise like that. And I would totally buy Gavinner's brand stuff.

Guess I should throw my hat into the ring seeing as I'm a Klavier fan and don't stick up for him enough.

Let's see...Klavier is a more complex character than what you'd usually find in Ace Attorney. He's a gentle soul who cares more about doing what's right than seeking a particular conclusion. Whereas other prosecutors approach the bench with the mentality that "The defendant is guilty, the defense is fooling themselves", Klavier's stance is "I'm here to present the state's standing on the case, is there something wrong with what we found?"

If that means the defendant is guilty, so be it. But if they have the wrong person, he doesn't mind listening to why. He'll point out where the defense's logic falters or where the evidence is missing but if everything logically and soundly points away from the defendant, he'll step aside gracefully and accept the verdict that's handed down. In other words, he's not taking losses personally and acknowledges when the defense had a solid case.

He has values, which is usually something you don't see in most Ace Attorney characters (which is just a matter of black and white in their view of the world). He strikes me as one of the most intelligent characters in the series and one who has definitely had an epiphany somewhere in his life that gives him the legs to stand on morally (in the world of real law, this would be silly as a real prosecutor would have had Klavier's opinion of the law in mind from the beginning but in the world of Ace Attorney, this is a defining trait).

I've had a cool idea that would give Klavier the characterization the haters are longing for.

So, in a way, it's kinda like a reverse Edgeworth.

I can't see why people don't like Klavier.
He's a nice person and at the same time a good prosecutor, and not to mention that he's the first prosecutor who's (first) motive was to find the truth, not something silly like getting guilty verdicts for his record.

What going from someone who is determined to discover the truth to someone who gets guilty verdicts no matter what? I don't think that sounds right from your description

...Not quite what I meant, but I can see how you came to that conclusion. I meant going from someone aims to reveal the truth at all costs to... well, not. While this idea would still make him search for the truth, it should also give him an idea of when to stop.

...Alright, the Edgeworth comparison was bullcrap. Happy?