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Whenever a new game comes out we always get a rush of new people eager to post. We love getting new people, but some of them are new to CR, or even new to internet forums entirely, and they aren't so good about looking back a page or two to see if someone has posted a thread exactly like theirs.

Sometimes we get spammers, whether they are bots, or invaders from other forums, or whatever.

The mods and admins have decided that in order to combat the surge of new and possibly uninformed (or even malicious) topics that are likely to crop up in the wake of AAI's release, we're adding a new rule. From now on, a new person with less than 25* forum posts will not be able to create new threads in the following forum sections:

The Defense and Prosecutor Lobbies
Courthouse Steps
The Non-AA sections (video games, music, movies, and Wright & Co.)

These are the sections that suffer most from topics of the "I didn't bother to use the search function" variety. New people will still be able to post intro threads, share their art and fics etc. We just want to cut down on the number of repeat and "noob question" topics cluttering the discussion boards.

The rule does not affect replying to a thread that has already been created - it just prevents people from making threads until they've had some posting experience.

Now I'm sure some people are shaking their heads saying, "Now that they know how many posts they need they'll just spam until they get there!" Well it won't do them any good, because we've also made it so that if someone with more than 50 posts continues to make horrible stupid threads, we can demote them and cut off their topic-making privileges. Indefinitely if necessary.

(And I'm not interested in typing "I'm not telling~" a hundred times, which is how many times people would ask "How many posts do I need to create threads?" if I didn't disclose it)

We're going to do our best to cut down the amount of spam flying around, especially with the influx of activity bound to follow AAI. Please help us out by continuing to use the report function.

And speaking of AAI, please please PLEASE remember that SPOILER RULES ARE STILL IN EFFECT!!! AAI will be considered spoiler material for several months after the game's been out, so DO NOT POST SPOILERS outside the Prosecutor Lobby, especially in your avatars or sigs. It's just not cool and suspensions will follow. And in case this wasn't clear before, this includes your custom made sprites if you used a spoiler sprite as a base.

Thank you, and if you have a problem with the new rules, feel free to take it up with me in a maturely-worded manner.


*: This is 50 if you joined before March 19. Sorry ^^"
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Great to see you guys taking some action with all of this. I'm hoping this will indeed have a positive effect on the forums as a whole. I approve of this. =)
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Thank you Croik <3
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Hell yes bringing out the big guns, it is go time!

Let's do this

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Where making this hapen.

Bring it on AAI, CR is ready.
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This sounds fair. Under 50 posts. Guess I have to work my way up. :beef:
Anyways, thank you for taking up action against this. Best of luck to all mods and admins! :keiko:
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This is a great idea. I know I have done some spam, but it wasn't intentional...
I hope people follow this rule and don't create much trouble for you mods/admins.
This will also discourage spam to all users, not only new ones.
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Agreed. It's about time for some people to wake up and smell the coffee. :godot:

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Oh boy oh boy oh boy!

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That's actually a pretty good idea! Can't think of anything wrong about this!
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Can't think nothing wrong about this either!
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Now onto spamming the board so I can make some threads.

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Bam! Wait. That's a fish?!

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Now there going to be less spam. Thanks Croik. :D Hopefully, this will work.
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I agree, my thanks to you...
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Seem's fine...

Of course is a newbie has something genuinely new to say that the search function wouldn't help with it might impair their ability to discuss it.

Yet do you really think it'll cause such a sudden influx in fans? :yuusaku:
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on the contrary, many newbs will want to post new topics, so they'll feel incouraged the post? Is that along your line of thinking, Croik?
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Pierre wrote:
Seem's fine...

Of course is a newbie has something genuinely new to say that the search function wouldn't help with it might impair their ability to discuss it.

Yet do you really think it'll cause such a sudden influx in fans? :yuusaku:


You weren't here for AJ's release.

I assure you, it will.
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Regy Rusty wrote:
Pierre wrote:
Seem's fine...

Of course is a newbie has something genuinely new to say that the search function wouldn't help with it might impair their ability to discuss it.

Yet do you really think it'll cause such a sudden influx in fans? :yuusaku:


You weren't here for AJ's release.

I assure you, it will.


*Looks at join date* I thought I was....

Oh well maybe it was during my break but I'll take your word for it and hold my tongue against any distinctly noobish/spamming members that join.
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AJ was released in February 2008. XD You joined well after that. Believe me, it was nuts.
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Regy Rusty wrote:
AJ was released in February 2008. XD You joined well after that. Believe me, it was nuts.


Huh.....well guess so...how time flies :garyuu:
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There will be plenty of places for new people to discuss the new game. There's already a thread for every case (I'm going to bump those as soon as the game is out), for pairings, for individual characters, contradictions, and in no time our older members I'm sure will be making "Played it, loved it" threads and things like that.
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By Midnight Jasper! Much thanks!

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High postcount =/= Longevity/intelligence.
Have a repeated confirmation showing only that rule at registration or something. Priveleges with higher postcount encourages more spamming to reach said postcount. Sorry to disagree.
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That's why we also added the option to demote users with higher post counts, if it becomes necessary.
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My only problem would be that new members would spam to get to 50 posts, but I don't think that will really happen.

Great measure, Croik! I remember AJ's release, it was nuts XD
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Croik wrote:
Now I'm sure some people are shaking their heads saying, "Now that they know how many posts they need they'll just spam until they get there!" Well it won't do them any good, because we've also made it so that if someone with more than 50 posts continues to make horrible stupid threads, we can demote them and cut off their topic-making privileges. Indefinitely if necessary.


Which is why she said this.
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Croik wrote:
Now I'm sure some people are shaking their heads saying, "Now that they know how many posts they need they'll just spam until they get there!" Well it won't do them any good, because we've also made it so that if someone with more than 50 posts continues to make horrible stupid threads, we can demote them and cut off their topic-making privileges. Indefinitely if necessary.


Which is why she said this.


Oh, sorry, I missed that, somehow. Thanks.
Well, I see no problems now. Seems pretty straight-forward.

I didn't know there was a way to unable topic-making for certain users. That seems pretty useful, specially in cases like this one.
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Do you mean in case they do spam to get their count up?
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Sounds all right to me. *thumbs up*
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Yeah, it sounds great and all that, but I think the new users should be able to PM mods or admins, in case they need help or anything. I don't mind them not being able to PM regular users.
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I'm still looking for a contradiction, but this seems pretty solid right now. However, we can't get rid of spamming posts, now can we? :chinami:
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P!ATD wrote:
Yeah, it sounds great and all that, but I think the new users should be able to PM mods or admins, in case they need help or anything. I don't mind them not being able to PM regular users.


I don't think the new rank affects being able to send PMs.
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50 posts is a lot for some people. Some people like to read a lot of topics but simply don't have anything to say, or what they said has already been said. Is there any way to measure time spent online and time spent registered? I foresee:
Topic starter with >50 posts wrote:
What do you think about ______?

Experienced member wrote:
It's very cool, and also, (insert interesting point about ______ here)

Another experienced member wrote:
I agree, but it's also (insert another interesting point)

New member with <50 posts wrote:
I think that it's (insert first point here)!

Another new member wrote:
I also think it's (insert first point here)!

New member wrote:
(unrelated joke)

Lots of new members wrote:
That joke is awesome.

Any member possibly wrote:
Yeah! It makes me think ______ about ______!

New member wrote:
Same here!

Experienced member wrote:
Back on topic, ______ is really ______, isn't it?

New member wrote:
Don't forget that it's ______!

Experienced member wrote:
I already said that.

New member wrote:
I don't get the joke.

Any member possibly wrote:
It's funny because ______!

New member wrote:
Good, you got it.

Experienced member wrote:
Well, back on topic, I think that...

Thread goes on again, normal.
But, my word can not be put into evidence yet. Let's test this out and see.
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Well, it's cutting out stupid threads but not necessarily stupid posts but it's still a step up. You just can't go up and change people so easily though. Spammy posters will remain as spammy posters unless they magically have some kind of revelation.
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i think this should work. another forum i am on does the same thing even has the same post cap and the amount of spam and bot post are almost none.
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Croik wrote:
P!ATD wrote:
Yeah, it sounds great and all that, but I think the new users should be able to PM mods or admins, in case they need help or anything. I don't mind them not being able to PM regular users.


I don't think the new rank affects being able to send PMs.


Maybe it doesn't, it's just I was on a new account the other day, and I couldn't send any PMs to anyone. I thought it was because the account had less than fifty posts, but I could have been wrong, and there might have been another reason for it.
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P!ATD wrote:
Maybe it doesn't, it's just I was on a new account the other day, and I couldn't send any PMs to anyone. I thought it was because the account had less than fifty posts, but I could have been wrong, and there might have been another reason for it.


You know you're not supposed to have more than one account here, yes?
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Croik wrote:
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Maybe it doesn't, it's just I was on a new account the other day, and I couldn't send any PMs to anyone. I thought it was because the account had less than fifty posts, but I could have been wrong, and there might have been another reason for it.


You know you're not supposed to have more than one account here, yes?


Yes, but P!ATD couldn't log back into her account if I'm not mistaken, and she made a new account to ask for help to address that problem of hers.
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Yeah, that's what happened, Dragon. I only made the new account because the site wouldn't let me back into this one. I set up the new account to point out the problem, and Wooster managed to help me. I'm not planning on using the other account again, it was literally just to get me back in to this one. I didn't even want to set up the new account, I waited a good few hours before I did it. Sorry for breaking the rules. :sadshoe:
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It's okay, but in the future (and for anyone else reading this) we prefer that people having account trouble contact us through email or AIM instead of making new accounts.
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I think this is a great idea.

Stopping people from creating topics indefinitely sounds a bit harsh, but I guess it'll only be used in extreme cases.
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good idea. if you need to take precautions like this, i can only imagine what it was like when AJ was released
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Yay. No more 1 statement threads.
The world is becoming a better place already. Although, tomaro will make it even better :D
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Say what now, pal?

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I think this is a great idea! Though I haven't been active on the forums for a while, I remember the madness AJ's English release brought with it (kinda fondly).

However, I have a question. Will people that have been here for a while but have post counts under 50 (me for example OTL) be affected by this new rule?

I know you said "new users", but that's a little ambiguous.
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