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Project "Investigations Meets Orchestra" (Updated June 4th)
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Project "Investigations Meets Orchestra"
Orchestral recreations of the Ace Attorney Investigations soundtrack
--- Official Site ---*
Orchestral recreations of the Ace Attorney Investigations soundtrack
--- Official Site ---*
Most of us have at least started playing Ace Attorney Investigations, and realized the soundtrack is awesome. And, unfortunately, it's the only game that hasn't received non-promotional Orchestra versions.
Well, that's about to change. Even if it has to be fan-made, "Ace Attorney Investigations"'s soundtrack will be orchestrated.
For this I am using FL Studio 9, with the EDIROL Orchestra VSTi (Virtual Instruments), which allows for realistic Orchestra instruments.
All of the project's tracks will now be posted in the project's official site*, where you can listen to all tracks and download them in both MP3 and OGG formats. Site courtesy of Meph (thanks a lot, man!).
For accessibility, here's a SkyDrive folder where I'll upload all tracks and revisions (in contrast to the official site, which will only have the final versions).
Please post your comments, criticism or opinions in your replies. Is there something that the current tracks are missing, or that you find odd? Post away!
Current: Various (Character Themes, Case Intros)
*Website currently unavailable, will get on that soon.
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It is a very similar project to what I was also starting, haha, so you can see why I am so enthusiastically interested in your endeavors.
I am currently working on 'Pursuit ~ Cornered', which I believe is the same as 'Pursuit ~ Lying Coldly'.
I use Sibelius 6 to re-orchestrate songs, and the MIDI is from HamieNet.
Here is my WIP, if you'd like to see: http://www.box.net/shared/zfzhe6lc5l
I just need to tone down the drums a bit, fade it out, and I'm pretty much done!
Again, I'd really like to congratulate you with your spectacular re-orchestrations, they truly are beautiful!
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Actually, "Pursuit ~ Cornered" is AA1's Pursuit theme. AA2's was "Pursuit ~ Questioned", AA3's "Pursuit ~ Caught", AA4's "Pursuit ~ Overtaken", and AAI's is "Pursuit ~ Lying Coldly". But I know what you mean.
Sounds good, but most instruments sound exactly like in the game. I think the point of orchestration is replacing the original instruments with an orchestra, that is, strings, brass, orchestra drums, you know what I mean.
And again, thanks! Yes, I think they did end up quite beautiful, if I do say so myself :D
On the update side of things, I'm re-doing Confrontation ~ Presto, and then I'll start working on the Investigation Suite.
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And thanks for doing this! These really are brilliant!
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Sometimes some really odd instruments come up, but this is what makes it unique!
Truly brilliant. Can't wait for the rest!
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@adart: Well, my point of view here was a re-imagining of the instruments. They don't necessary have to be the orchestra equivalent to the original instruments, as you can see in most of these. That's what I like about the Gyakuten Meets Orchestra CDs, really: innovation.
And thank you! Don't worry, I'll try to get the entire soundtrack done, and if people like it a lot, I may do other games' soundtracks (got my eyes on TaT), but right now, my priority is AAI.
Just in case somebody didn't notice, I added the Investigation Suite! All Opening, Middlegame, Contradiction at the crime scene and Core are done and up!
Next up: all tracks related to Logic, and then, character themes!
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DeMatador wrote:
@Meph: Thanks a lot! I'm checking out SkyDrive now. By the way, do you know of a site that lets you listen to files you upload without needing to download them? I've been looking for one, but can't find a free one.
If you can get me some webspace, I can make one for you using HTML5!
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Meph wrote:
...not quite what i meant...but I guess it'll do for now.
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DeMatador wrote:
Thanks a lot!
Actually, "Pursuit ~ Cornered" is AA1's Pursuit theme. AA2's was "Pursuit ~ Questioned", AA3's "Pursuit ~ Caught", AA4's "Pursuit ~ Overtaken", and AAI's is "Pursuit ~ Lying Coldly". But I know what you mean.
Sounds good, but most instruments sound exactly like in the game. I think the point of orchestration is replacing the original instruments with an orchestra, that is, strings, brass, orchestra drums, you know what I mean.
And again, thanks! Yes, I think they did end up quite beautiful, if I do say so myself :D
On the update side of things, I'm re-doing Confrontation ~ Presto, and then I'll start working on the Investigation Suite.
Actually, "Pursuit ~ Cornered" is AA1's Pursuit theme. AA2's was "Pursuit ~ Questioned", AA3's "Pursuit ~ Caught", AA4's "Pursuit ~ Overtaken", and AAI's is "Pursuit ~ Lying Coldly". But I know what you mean.
Sounds good, but most instruments sound exactly like in the game. I think the point of orchestration is replacing the original instruments with an orchestra, that is, strings, brass, orchestra drums, you know what I mean.
And again, thanks! Yes, I think they did end up quite beautiful, if I do say so myself :D
On the update side of things, I'm re-doing Confrontation ~ Presto, and then I'll start working on the Investigation Suite.
Ah! I guess I meant "remastered" then!
I was trying to keep it as close to the original as possible, while maintaining similar instruments.
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KuriboJump wrote:
DeMatador wrote:
Thanks a lot!
Actually, "Pursuit ~ Cornered" is AA1's Pursuit theme. AA2's was "Pursuit ~ Questioned", AA3's "Pursuit ~ Caught", AA4's "Pursuit ~ Overtaken", and AAI's is "Pursuit ~ Lying Coldly". But I know what you mean.
Sounds good, but most instruments sound exactly like in the game. I think the point of orchestration is replacing the original instruments with an orchestra, that is, strings, brass, orchestra drums, you know what I mean.
And again, thanks! Yes, I think they did end up quite beautiful, if I do say so myself :D
On the update side of things, I'm re-doing Confrontation ~ Presto, and then I'll start working on the Investigation Suite.
Actually, "Pursuit ~ Cornered" is AA1's Pursuit theme. AA2's was "Pursuit ~ Questioned", AA3's "Pursuit ~ Caught", AA4's "Pursuit ~ Overtaken", and AAI's is "Pursuit ~ Lying Coldly". But I know what you mean.
Sounds good, but most instruments sound exactly like in the game. I think the point of orchestration is replacing the original instruments with an orchestra, that is, strings, brass, orchestra drums, you know what I mean.
And again, thanks! Yes, I think they did end up quite beautiful, if I do say so myself :D
On the update side of things, I'm re-doing Confrontation ~ Presto, and then I'll start working on the Investigation Suite.
Ah! I guess I meant "remastered" then!
I was trying to keep it as close to the original as possible, while maintaining similar instruments.
Then they ARE great remasters! From the orchestra point of view, your sample seems like a raw skeleton of the finished track; but from the remaster side, it is quite developed. Congrats!
BTW, added a SkyDrive folder! And working on Logic Suite! Won't take long, so stay tuned.
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Pursuit:
The piano-glissando-thingy is wayyyyy too quiet.
Gah, you use the wind sections really badly, no offense... I mean, just for that little transition loop? Try replacing them with some loud trumpets, since it's supposed to be a high-energy moment. (I'm actually kinda interested in how that would sound, since I couldn't really hear too much brass... I'd do it myself, but I don't have the programs.)
Presto:
I suppose you are kind of limited by using computer instruments instead of actual musicians, but the intro and the piano seem a little... soft. I have no idea how this would be fixed tho ^^'
When the winds and strings play together, the winds are really overshadowed, and when the strings and brass play together, the strings are way overshadowed. Might wanna play with the volume and balance a bit so we can hear the melody clearer.
No offense, but (from the 3 I listened to (also Allegro)) it sounds like all you did was take the instruments from the original and change them to string/wind/brass instruments. It's nice, but it's a bit... lackluster. I know nothing about FL Studio or that Eriol-thingy, but I think the songs would be a lot better if they were songs, instead of loops, and you arranged it, instead of just replacing instruments, by adding/changing/removing parts in the original, like they do with the actual Gyakuten Meets Orchestra. I don't know how viable that is, but it's just my suggestion.
tl;dr: Arrange it more, instead of just replacing instruments, like in GMO.
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Pursuit and Presto are precisely the two themes that I didn't like how they turned out. To be honest, I just released them because I wanted to see how the concept of orchestration would be welcome. I never said these are the final versions: I have 4 "Presto"s in my PC, and I still don't quite like any of it. Mostly, due to all the problems you pointed out, BP.
Pursuit
One of my main problems here is that FL Studio gives a way too crappy preview, and when you export it to MP3, it sounds quite different (as it should). I just noticed, but I was working on other themes (and other things unrelated to this project), so I still didn't fix it.
Gimme a break, it was the first theme I uploaded! XD I don't really know what you mean by "really badly", so if you could give concrete examples of when I used wind "really badly", instead of just suggestions, I would be grateful. I rather know what I'm doing wrong and THEN fix it, than just know what to do to fix it without even asking.
Presto
This is the theme that gave me more issues. For the soft parts, I could either find a more fitting instrument or simply raise the volume.
A lot of instruments combine badly here. I just didn't have enough time to fix them, I released them prematurely. I'll get to fix this and all issues eventually, just bear with me.
Well, replacing instruments is exactly what the point of this part of the project is. Right now, I want to finish the whole soundtrack as raw themes, and then my goal is arranging them in the fashion of a real Gyakuten Meets Orchestra album (Investigation Suite all in one theme, same with Confrontation themes, things like that, from your post, I know that you know what I mean). That's the last step towards the finishing of this project (that's why it's a project, it's still ongoing ;D).
Basically, I am well aware of most of those issues, and of those I weren't, I know am, so I'll do my best to fix them.
Thanks for the great constructive criticism, BP! To be honest, I was kinda pissed that all that other people posted here was either advertisement or full-fledged praise... again, thanks a lot!
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Yeah, all you mentioned are things I had in mind.
Pursuit and Presto are precisely the two themes that I didn't like how they turned out. To be honest, I just released them because I wanted to see how the concept of orchestration would be welcome. I never said these are the final versions: I have 4 "Presto"s in my PC, and I still don't quite like any of it. Mostly, due to all the problems you pointed out, BP.
Pursuit and Presto are precisely the two themes that I didn't like how they turned out. To be honest, I just released them because I wanted to see how the concept of orchestration would be welcome. I never said these are the final versions: I have 4 "Presto"s in my PC, and I still don't quite like any of it. Mostly, due to all the problems you pointed out, BP.
Well, it's the only version that you released, so :P Anyway, I guess I'm gonna have to listen to some other songs, then...
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One of my main problems here is that FL Studio gives a way too crappy preview, and when you export it to MP3, it sounds quite different (as it should). I just noticed, but I was working on other themes (and other things unrelated to this project), so I still didn't fix it.
Gimme a break, it was the first theme I uploaded! XD I don't really know what you mean by "really badly", so if you could give concrete examples of when I used wind "really badly", instead of just suggestions, I would be grateful. I rather know what I'm doing wrong and THEN fix it, than just know what to do to fix it without even asking.
One of my main problems here is that FL Studio gives a way too crappy preview, and when you export it to MP3, it sounds quite different (as it should). I just noticed, but I was working on other themes (and other things unrelated to this project), so I still didn't fix it.
Gimme a break, it was the first theme I uploaded! XD I don't really know what you mean by "really badly", so if you could give concrete examples of when I used wind "really badly", instead of just suggestions, I would be grateful. I rather know what I'm doing wrong and THEN fix it, than just know what to do to fix it without even asking.
When I have time later I'll go and get examples.
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This is the theme that gave me more issues. For the soft parts, I could either find a more fitting instrument or simply raise the volume.
A lot of instruments combine badly here. I just didn't have enough time to fix them, I released them prematurely. I'll get to fix this and all issues eventually, just bear with me.
This is the theme that gave me more issues. For the soft parts, I could either find a more fitting instrument or simply raise the volume.
A lot of instruments combine badly here. I just didn't have enough time to fix them, I released them prematurely. I'll get to fix this and all issues eventually, just bear with me.
kk. The note that I really think is soft is the last note of the intro riff. (I don't know how to really describe it, cuz it's just one note T_T) I think you are using... trombones(?) for that intro. Maybe have a different instrument just play that one note. (Again, just random ideas that I would test out myself if I could instead of just vaguely describing them >_>)
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Well, replacing instruments is exactly what the point of this part of the project is. Right now, I want to finish the whole soundtrack as raw themes, and then my goal is arranging them in the fashion of a real Gyakuten Meets Orchestra album (Investigation Suite all in one theme, same with Confrontation themes, things like that, from your post, I know that you know what I mean). That's the last step towards the finishing of this project (that's why it's a project, it's still ongoing ;D).
All right, all right. It just wasn't clear that that was what you were doing :P I'll save arrangement criticisms until you get to those end steps. (Although balance and instrumentation are definitely things we can work on now :P)
(Also, for the AAI court suite... it should be some first song (prolly Court or Investigation ~ Opening, as those seem most analogous to Trial), then Confrontation Allegro and/or Moderato, then Pursuit. Then it should have a fake-out ending on Pursuit, and have a finale of Confrontation Presto xDD Just saying it now :P)
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Basically, I am well aware of most of those issues, and of those I weren't, I know am, so I'll do my best to fix them.
Thanks for the great constructive criticism, BP! To be honest, I was kinda pissed that all that other people posted here was either advertisement or full-fledged praise... again, thanks a lot!
Thanks for the great constructive criticism, BP! To be honest, I was kinda pissed that all that other people posted here was either advertisement or full-fledged praise... again, thanks a lot!
kk, np :)
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I've had to convert all of the music files into OGG.
Don't use that site. It doesn't support OGG files. I'll host it on my website. ;)
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I've created a website for you to put them on. :)
I've had to convert all of the music files into OGG.
http://investigationsmeetsorchestra.webs.com/index.html
Don't use that site. It doesn't support OGG files. I'll host it on my website. ;)
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I've had to convert all of the music files into OGG.
Don't use that site. It doesn't support OGG files. I'll host it on my website. ;)
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Woah... you're amazing. Just... thanks a lot, man! It's of huge help!
There are a couple of things that need fixes, and a few things that should be added, but it would be better to talk about it personally.
If you have an instant messenger provider, my Messenger account is ivanramos_13@hotmail.com, so contact me through there. If not, PM will be just fine.
I appreciate it a lot! They sound great, and the site looks great. Again, thank you, thank you, and thank you!
In other news, I have done fixed versions of both Pursuit and Presto! Pursuit has the volume and instrument issues fixed (the piano part is louder and has a new instrument that sounds more orchestra-ish, the energetic moments now use more powerful instuments i.e. trombones), and Presto has most of the volume issues finished (still finishing it up, there are still sections that overshadow other sections, but much less than before).
Also, a question for everybody (specially Bad Player, your criticism on the rest of the tracks would be great): how do you feel about Confrontation ~ Moderate? I like it, but it doesn't sound too much like Allegro, so I did an alternative version that does. If you feel that it should be changed, I'll upload this new version to replace the current one.
And finally, "Logic ~ The Way to the Truth" is finished, and the rest of the Logic Suite is ongoing. I would have finished it, but I was fixing Pursuit and Presto.
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Pursuit:
Oh yeah, this is much better :) The drums seem a tad too loud, though. The little echo-repeat thing at :31 is a bit too quiet IMO. I don't really like the flute at :40. It's the first time you have winds, and... I dunno, it seems a bit unnecessary. Maybe if it was a bit softer and not as noticeable? (Like ambient noise xD) I think the winds are a bit too weak at :43 and :46 (and etc), as it's a pretty powerful transition, so maybe giving that to brass instead would sound better. (As much as I hate to take away what little part the winds have in this piece xD) The strings at :57 are kind of covered up by the brass and percussion, and so should probably be louder. The piano at 1:03 is way too quiet. Also in the section starting at 1:03 I think the relative volume between the strings and drums is a bit off. (The strings could be louder and the drums softer.) The piano at the very end is also too soft.
Anyway, definitely much improved :) Despite that wall o' text, I did enjoy it this time xD Also, how that I'm being specific, hopefully you will be able to make these changes more easily :)
Presto:
Okay, the opening is still a bit 'soft' but it's still great :) Anyway, now I think that first second (0:00 xD) is a bit too quiet in comparison. The oboe(?) with the up-beats seems a little loud at the beginning (around :03). However, when the strings are also playing, it seems to be an the appropriate volume. The basses in :12 and :13 really overpower the violins, which isn't good. When the intro-riff occurs again at :38, I can't hear the last note (the one that is too loud at the beginning xD) so I think you should either put it in there, or blast it up. At :39, the clarinet/oboe(?) kinda overpowers the piano for a few seconds. They get a good balance at :41. (...The volumes probably don't change, but it still sounds that way to me. Whatever it is, the clarinet/oboe makes me "lose track" of the melody for a moment there.) I think the strings can definitely be louder at :45. They're the melody, and although it isn't difficult to hear them, they are still kinda quiet. They are especially way to quiet in :55-:56. ...Out of curiousity, what's that instrument at 1:13? The glissando at 1:20 is way too quiet. (Heck, I'm not even sure if it's actually there...) Again, much-improved, and I hope being specific will let v3 be even better.
Allegro:
...The only thing I can say about this one is that I think the violins with eighth-notes could be louder. (Although they do get louder at around :33, so... xD)
Moderato:
Oooh, I like how it's different than Allegro. The slower tempo, more brass-heavy instrumentation, and accentation of different notes gives it a different feel. It's different, but it's not bad. I would be sad if you took this one down xD And honestly, I see no reason why you can't have both versions uploaded.
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Okay, let's see...
Pursuit:
Oh yeah, this is much better :) The drums seem a tad too loud, though. The little echo-repeat thing at :31 is a bit too quiet IMO. I don't really like the flute at :40. It's the first time you have winds, and... I dunno, it seems a bit unnecessary. Maybe if it was a bit softer and not as noticeable? (Like ambient noise xD) I think the winds are a bit too weak at :43 and :46 (and etc), as it's a pretty powerful transition, so maybe giving that to brass instead would sound better. (As much as I hate to take away what little part the winds have in this piece xD) The strings at :57 are kind of covered up by the brass and percussion, and so should probably be louder. The piano at 1:03 is way too quiet. Also in the section starting at 1:03 I think the relative volume between the strings and drums is a bit off. (The strings could be louder and the drums softer.) The piano at the very end is also too soft.
Anyway, definitely much improved :) Despite that wall o' text, I did enjoy it this time xD Also, how that I'm being specific, hopefully you will be able to make these changes more easily :)
Presto:
Okay, the opening is still a bit 'soft' but it's still great :) Anyway, now I think that first second (0:00 xD) is a bit too quiet in comparison. The oboe(?) with the up-beats seems a little loud at the beginning (around :03). However, when the strings are also playing, it seems to be an the appropriate volume. The basses in :12 and :13 really overpower the violins, which isn't good. When the intro-riff occurs again at :38, I can't hear the last note (the one that is too loud at the beginning xD) so I think you should either put it in there, or blast it up. At :39, the clarinet/oboe(?) kinda overpowers the piano for a few seconds. They get a good balance at :41. (...The volumes probably don't change, but it still sounds that way to me. Whatever it is, the clarinet/oboe makes me "lose track" of the melody for a moment there.) I think the strings can definitely be louder at :45. They're the melody, and although it isn't difficult to hear them, they are still kinda quiet. They are especially way to quiet in :55-:56. ...Out of curiousity, what's that instrument at 1:13? The glissando at 1:20 is way too quiet. (Heck, I'm not even sure if it's actually there...) Again, much-improved, and I hope being specific will let v3 be even better.
Pursuit:
Oh yeah, this is much better :) The drums seem a tad too loud, though. The little echo-repeat thing at :31 is a bit too quiet IMO. I don't really like the flute at :40. It's the first time you have winds, and... I dunno, it seems a bit unnecessary. Maybe if it was a bit softer and not as noticeable? (Like ambient noise xD) I think the winds are a bit too weak at :43 and :46 (and etc), as it's a pretty powerful transition, so maybe giving that to brass instead would sound better. (As much as I hate to take away what little part the winds have in this piece xD) The strings at :57 are kind of covered up by the brass and percussion, and so should probably be louder. The piano at 1:03 is way too quiet. Also in the section starting at 1:03 I think the relative volume between the strings and drums is a bit off. (The strings could be louder and the drums softer.) The piano at the very end is also too soft.
Anyway, definitely much improved :) Despite that wall o' text, I did enjoy it this time xD Also, how that I'm being specific, hopefully you will be able to make these changes more easily :)
Presto:
Okay, the opening is still a bit 'soft' but it's still great :) Anyway, now I think that first second (0:00 xD) is a bit too quiet in comparison. The oboe(?) with the up-beats seems a little loud at the beginning (around :03). However, when the strings are also playing, it seems to be an the appropriate volume. The basses in :12 and :13 really overpower the violins, which isn't good. When the intro-riff occurs again at :38, I can't hear the last note (the one that is too loud at the beginning xD) so I think you should either put it in there, or blast it up. At :39, the clarinet/oboe(?) kinda overpowers the piano for a few seconds. They get a good balance at :41. (...The volumes probably don't change, but it still sounds that way to me. Whatever it is, the clarinet/oboe makes me "lose track" of the melody for a moment there.) I think the strings can definitely be louder at :45. They're the melody, and although it isn't difficult to hear them, they are still kinda quiet. They are especially way to quiet in :55-:56. ...Out of curiousity, what's that instrument at 1:13? The glissando at 1:20 is way too quiet. (Heck, I'm not even sure if it's actually there...) Again, much-improved, and I hope being specific will let v3 be even better.
Well, this is VERY awkward, but... I still haven't uploaded the new versions of the themes. Though I did notice that the playable versions in the IMO site do sound cleaner and louder, so that may have created the illusion of fixing everything. BUT, the new Pursuit is up in the SkyDrive folder right now (under the name "Pursuit ~ Lying Coldly3"), and I think that most of that should be fixed now. I replaced the flute with some energic trumpets (they used to be super-powerful trombones, but they turned out to be too anticlimatic, so I used some less-powerful instruments).
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Allegro:
...The only thing I can say about this one is that I think the violins with eighth-notes could be louder. (Although they do get louder at around :33, so... xD)
Moderato:
Oooh, I like how it's different than Allegro. The slower tempo, more brass-heavy instrumentation, and accentation of different notes gives it a different feel. It's different, but it's not bad. I would be sad if you took this one down xD And honestly, I see no reason why you can't have both versions uploaded.
...The only thing I can say about this one is that I think the violins with eighth-notes could be louder. (Although they do get louder at around :33, so... xD)
Moderato:
Oooh, I like how it's different than Allegro. The slower tempo, more brass-heavy instrumentation, and accentation of different notes gives it a different feel. It's different, but it's not bad. I would be sad if you took this one down xD And honestly, I see no reason why you can't have both versions uploaded.
About Allegro, I did a new version that raises the power of the main instruments, including the violins and the drums (which, being an Allegro piece, play a big part). It's in the SkyDrive folder as "Confrontation ~ Allegro2".
About Moderate, I really don't like the new version I did, and I like that it's not just a slower Allegro. So yeah, this one stays!
EDIT: First post updated and tidied up.
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I was gonna ask if you changed the files in the first post, but then I decided not to spend more time and just check it out. Presto really did sound different =\ At least now I have specific criticism of the first version xD
(I already know I suck at listening to stuff, so meh :P)
EDITS:
Allegro2: Sounds great! ...Not that I can remember any differences from the first version
Presto2: ...I sure hope this is a new one. You didn't say anything about whether it is or isn't. The violins are kinda quiet at :45.
Pursuit3: Hey, where's Pursuit2? xD Anyway, replacing the flute/winds with the trumpet/brass was definitely the right thing to do. The trumpet blends in sooo much better with the flute, and it has more energy than the winds.
...ugh, I just realized this means that I'm gonna need to listen to all the other songs, too, and you've already gotten most of my favorites from the soundtrack out of the way...
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Also, I've updated the site with the three new tracks.
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Carnage Onred / Quercus Alba's theme is being worked on, since I was also really curious about how it would sound. It's coming out nicely, though it does have some volume issues, so there's still no final version. It does sound quite epic, as any theme doing Quercus justice should.
The next character theme I want to try is Cammy Meele / Wakana Shiraoto's... I can't really picture how to fit it into an orchestra, so it's quite a challenge.
EDIT: Actually, forget about it, I already did it. I really like it! As it is right now, it can actually loop. It will be modified when I attempt a IMO album, but right now it can actually loop. I'll post this and Carnage / Quercus' themes after the Logic Suite.
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Give me a PM when you upload new tracks so that I can add them to the site. ;)
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Alba's theme has a finished early version, still not ready for release. Right now I'm looking for a better method of track-managing, and then I'll see if I can get a better Orchestra plugin (if there is one). Then, I'll finish some more tracks, and then start planning and setting up the "Investigations Meets Orchestra" album (may even get a cover done ^^)
Alba's theme is sounding epic.
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A bit off topic, but any word on a jazz rendition being done? Love that so much...
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Well, I don't have any plans for an Investigations Meets Jazz... But who knows, maybe if I get to finish IMO I could look into that, feeding my ears with some jazz, and the "Gyakuten Meets Jazz Soul" album, most specifically. The thing is that a jazz rendition would take a lot of editing to the timing of the themes, which I'm not sure if I'm good at yet.
We'll see, maybe I get good enough to do some proper track editing. But first comes Investigations Meets Orchestra ;)
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I look forward to future success! Jazz or not, this is still pretty sweet.
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I especially like the Rebuttal themes, and also the Pursuit theme.
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For Investigations Meets Orchestra:
-Kay Faraday's Theme (Kay Faraday ~ The Great Truth Burglar)
-Miles Edgeworth - Objection! 2009
-Tyrell Badd's Theme (Tyrell Badd ~ Truth isn't sweet)
-Turnabout Ablaze Theme
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-Luke Atmey's theme (requested by Haik)
-The unused "Won the Case"-style theme from the AAI ROM. I don't know if this one was ever released, but it was inside the game's ROM, although it was never used. Anyway, this is a remix.
And as an absolutely unrelated extra track:
-The Simpsons Theme (by Danny Elfman)
They're all in the Skydrive folder.
Right now I'm refining the rest of the case intros, Carnage Onred and Shi-Long Lang's Themes, and the some other tracks, using this new method I mentioned.
Also, I'm officially considering all of these tracks as samples, mere tests. When I find a suitable way of doing the medleys (track-after-track with custom transitions, as in the Orchestra albums), then I'll start working on them as the official IMO tracks.
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Kay's Theme: Except from :31 to :45 and from 1:00 to the end, the melody seems kinda overpowered by the background and countermelody... that's about it xD
Luke's Theme: tbh, I always imagined this done by a chamber ensemble instead of a whole orchestra... I gotta say, this is pretty amazing. The only thing I don't really like is the brass playing the arppegiated(sp?) chord at :08, since it really overpowers the woodwinds.
Objection!: Hee hee, a perfect song to be brass-heavy. At :34 and right after (:36 or :37 or something) I believe there should be some random little counter-melody snippet thingy (like, only two notes) that I really like but couldn't hear... I think the woodwinds would be perfect for it :3 (Or if it's already there, pump up the volume! ...I sure hope you know what I'm talking about. (Ah! It's basically kinda like the thing the violin does at 1:01... I think...))
Turnabout Ablaze: Yes :3
Will look at the other few later...
(also if you're doin' requets can i request troupe gramarye?)
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Kay's Theme: Except from :31 to :45 and from 1:00 to the end, the melody seems kinda overpowered by the background and countermelody... that's about it xD
Kay's Theme: Except from :31 to :45 and from 1:00 to the end, the melody seems kinda overpowered by the background and countermelody... that's about it xD
That's intended. The melody isn't all that important in this theme, at least in my ears, since I wanted to make the theme epic, and the epic part here is the background.
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Luke's Theme: tbh, I always imagined this done by a chamber ensemble instead of a whole orchestra... I gotta say, this is pretty amazing. The only thing I don't really like is the brass playing the arppegiated(sp?) chord at :08, since it really overpowers the woodwinds.
I know what you mean with the appreggiated (I think it's spelled that way, since it comes from appreggio) note there, but I think the trumpets overpowering is a good way to interpet this theme. The original them does sound kinda chamber-y, but it's always sounded Spanish to me, so I did a Spanish-y interpretation.
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Objection!: Hee hee, a perfect song to be brass-heavy. At :34 and right after (:36 or :37 or something) I believe there should be some random little counter-melody snippet thingy (like, only two notes) that I really like but couldn't hear... I think the woodwinds would be perfect for it :3 (Or if it's already there, pump up the volume! ...I sure hope you know what I'm talking about. (Ah! It's basically kinda like the thing the violin does at 1:01... I think...))
Yeah, it's there, just that it's not loud enough. I revised it with fixed volumes and reverbs, so now it's audible. Not super-audible, but you can tell it's there. The file's here.
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Turnabout Ablaze: Yes :3
Thanks :D
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Will look at the other few later...
(also if you're doin' requets can i request troupe gramarye?)
(also if you're doin' requets can i request troupe gramarye?)
Hope you like the other ones!
And sure, I'll do requests! Troupe Gramarye is on its way.
Thanks for the criticism,
Also, new track: Prosecutor's Murmur - Promise to Meet Again. First time I actually bothered avoiding an abrupt ending. In the final track, this piece will loop once, then end in a more powerful manner.
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Listening to some of these tracks after so long makes me want to redo some of them, and make new ones. I don't promise anything, but I may be back for more! This may include AAI2 music, or maybe I can use it as promo material for the fan translation ;D
BTW, on some "forgotten" tracks: Alba's theme has been done for months and months, it just isn't presentable yet, I'll most probably have to redo it (don't remember if I already did... I'll check later). Troupe Gramarye theme... Well, it'll need a lot of work, but it had been started. That "lot of work" is regarding to some instruments that just can't be adapted, but its sound is quite important to the theme's heart and soul. I'll still try to get it into an actual "hearable" state, and then post it.
In other news I am considering redoing most, if not all tracks in new software, with new orchestra instruments, and on a better computer. I think I will be able to do this, not quite sure, but I'll try.
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