Re: Downfall to the Turnabout (Prologue 1/2 Out!)
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Yeah. I need a little hint. I'm stupid.
I haven't progressed any further from when I last posted.
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Spoiler: Hint
If I say "Everything I tell you is a lie," am I telling you the truth or a lie?
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It's obvious, really.
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Spoiler: Wow...really?
Whatever...maybe I'm just a sore loser...or a sore eventual-winner. Or something.
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Now I really can't wait for the next part of the Prologue. Keep up the good work!
Re: Downfall to the Turnabout (Prologue 1/2 Out!)
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DudeWithAMask wrote:
My evil knows no bounds. 
(That smiley is rather fitting)
It certainly doesn't! I've been stuck at the 2nd testimony all day, and I love the fact that I am pulling my hair out over this one too! But I really, really, reeeeaally hope that the contradiction (assuming there is one) that will end the testimony is logical, because I feel like I tried everything.
Spoiler:
This is certainly an ace attorney game for veteran players, and you shouldn't change that.
One thing though: I remember having the same issue when I was stuck at the first testimony as well, but
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Hope you don't mind my grammar errors and whatnot, but I can't care about that before I've progressed from this testimony!
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Re: Downfall to the Turnabout (Prologue 1/2 Out!)
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Again, I said this before and I'll say it again:
I don't WANT the player to be crippled on the save/load function. It's just that it HAS to be crippled because of the third evidence page.
Spoiler: Possible Hint
If I say "Everything I tell you is a lie," am I telling you the truth or a lie?
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Spoiler:
Sorry, I forgot if you've mentioned the save/load issue before.
Also, your brilliant dialouge is a great motivator for me to work on my own script some more, so thanks
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Spoiler:
Jack Lamber wrote:
Also, your brilliant dialouge is a great motivator for me to work on my own script some more, so thanks
Oh, you....
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Re: Downfall to the Turnabout (Prologue 1/2 Out!)
I'm workin' on it.
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Re: Downfall to the Turnabout (Prologue 1/2 Out!)
I'm workin' on it.
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Sorry if that last one sounded harsh, but I really hope you'll correct it. Otherwise, the game is really neat - the added "Logic" function is awesome, the story really pulled me in, and I really hope this fangame will succeed.
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Spoiler: Responses
If I say "Everything I tell you is a lie," am I telling you the truth or a lie?
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I'm workin' on it.
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DudeWithAMask wrote:
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I see.
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BTW, I'm sorry if I sounded harsh back there. It's just that I'm getting a bit annoyed when people keep complaining about the autosave over and over and over!
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Nah, that's great of you to add a walkthrough, because this game certainly has a couple of points where you're pulling your hair out of sheer frustration
But that's a good thing, because that means you've found yourself a challenge.Now for my thoughts of the first half of the case:
THIS IS ONE OF THE MOST DIFFICULT CASES I'VE EVER PLAYED. And I love every last minute of it! There's nothing too obvious in any of the testemonies, and most of the times (if not every time) you don't just have to present a piece of evidence, and then it's on to the next testimony. No, there's a whole lot of stuff to do at each testimony. I'll also say that, while some of the contradictions are so utterly frustrating, they are always logical... and that's exactly how they should be. Most of the times when I was stuck in the later AA games, like T&T and AJ, it was because I've either found another contradiction that seemed more logical than the one the game was asking you to find, or it simply didn't seem very logical to begin with. So far, that's not the case. I can tell that you've spent a lot of time developing these testimonies.
About the whole logic thing (both the parts where you can present it, and the part where you can connect the pieces): I'm pretty sure that's the best new feature I've ever seen in a fangame. It really adds a lot more to a trial.
I've probably pressed every statement and seen most of the dialouge that's in this first half of the game, and I only stumbled upon very few typos (3-4 I think), but there are still some. I thought about writing them down for you, but I forgot to later on. As I said, there are only 3 or 4, but they are quite obvious when you find them. I suggest you read through your script one more time, in case you wish to remove them (I think I've already pointed one of them out though?)
Apollo Justice swears... two or three times.. It's not like I have a problem with swearing, and it's certainly not because it wouldn't fit in a dramatic trial like this one but.. It's weird to see that Apollo swear. Blood and murder and all is apparently okay in the AA universe, but I only remember one curseword throughout the AA series, so it just seems weird for Apollo to suddenly say "something my ass!".
Spoiler:
Overall, the first half of the fangame is excellent. I liked the testemonies, the contradictions, the dialouge (I've already expressed my appreciation for your writing skills, so I won't bother doing it again), and the fact that you're able to make Apollo feel like Apollo (which IS a challenge for some, seeing it was rarely him who was in the spotlight in AJ), and I am really curious as to how the whole thing will end. This could very well shape up to be one of the best fangames I've played (well, I've only played 3 or 4 before this, but still..)
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UPDATE: Case 2 preview: http://www.4shared.com/video/JAKBIUPG/AAJAD2.html
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UPDATE: Case 2 preview: http://www.4shared.com/video/JAKBIUPG/AAJAD2.html
Re: Downfall to the Turnabout (Prologue 1/2 Out!)
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Apollo's swearing is just something I couldn't remember - Did he do it, or not? Well... that and another reason is that Apollo is so easy for me to write because I actually write him like me. Sooo... that's something that got carried over, I guess. Anyway, just to point out, this isn't half of the case. This is a sixth of the case. :P
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Re: Downfall to the Turnabout (Prologue 1/2 Out!)
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DudeWithAMask wrote:
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I just want to point out, that if you've figured out a few things you need to do in the CE, but then you get stuck and lose all your life, starting over from the beginning of the CE and having to go through all the convos you've already figured out isn't difficulty; it's just extra time and boredom.
(Also in terms of swearing, I think the only swears in the entire series are one or two "Dammit!"s in AA, and Lang's little outburst in AAI-5)
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I think I just came up with a solution that will please everyone....
...But no. Not how you think. :D
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Re: Downfall to the Turnabout (Prologue 1/2 Out!)
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nudalman wrote:
Also, Nyuugen, not to offend, but I don't think you should be complaining so much over a sprite unless, well, you can do better yourself... ^^;
No offense to you, nudal, but that's just silly. A criticism is solely concerned with the quality of the work in question; the skill of the critic has nothing to do with it.
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Besides, that's like if someone said to Siskel and Ebert 'Well, why don't you make a better movie?'
A critic doesn't really have to be talented in that area if he sees something is clearly wrong with something.
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I'd buy that for a dollar!
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But from what I can see so far (pretty much just the intro at this point), it looks really intriguing.
I love how closely you made it resemble the AA style, especially the animated evidence box.
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I'm bad at puzzle solving..
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Spoiler: Space Saving
And then an error on the next bit of speech.
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I'm bad at puzzle solving..
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DudeWithAMask wrote:
Are you running on the newest version of PyWright (0.9861)?
...I doubt it. I never update anything.
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DudeWithAMask wrote:
Are you running on the newest version of PyWright (0.9861)?
It could be just an issue with one of the expressions that you used in the code, if what I'm reading is correct. FVKWY's copy from the log says this:
Quote:
"'Judge - \n{f}{spd1To be honest, I was starti -
ng\to doubt I would ever see\nyou a-"
ng\to doubt I would ever see\nyou a-"
It looks like the {spd1} expression is missing its closing bracket. ;)
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Tap wrote:
Quote:
"'Judge - \n{f}{spd1To be honest, I was starti -
ng\to doubt I would ever see\nyou a-"
ng\to doubt I would ever see\nyou a-"
It looks like the {spd1} expression is missing its closing bracket. ;)
Crap. Strange how I never actually got an error.
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(and often, problems you expect to happen never do xD)
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It has been... I'm going to say about a month since the P 1/2's release..... and since then... I haven't done jack sh--.
I-I think I've scripted the first testimony of the second part (pretty sure), but that's about it. Sooo... yeah, just don't expect anything anytime soon. Anyway, let's see what we have to fix for the first part:
1. Fix all of the bugs mentioned and find a solution to the save problem.
2. Polish the thing a bit and try to apply some design 'upgrades'.
3. Fix the crap Rudolf sprite.
I have also been thinking about the story a bit. While the initial design is pretty strong in my opinion, I've been having some thoughts about the way it will all unfold and pretty much the course of the story itself. ...Which eventually led me to a feature that I have yet to reveal, but trust me... you won't see it coming.
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Spoiler: The ''back'' button disappears in Ema's testimony:
Peace is a lie; there is only passion.
Through passion, I gain strength.
Through strength, I gain power.
Through power, I gain victory.
Through victory, my chains are broken.
The Force shall set me free.
Through passion, I gain strength.
Through strength, I gain power.
Through power, I gain victory.
Through victory, my chains are broken.
The Force shall set me free.
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Re: Downfall to the Turnabout (Prologue 1/2 Out!)
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http://www.mediafire.com/?lw93kb81tabb4pw
Does anybody know what's happening with the Dude?
I hope he did not abandon this project.
Peace is a lie; there is only passion.
Through passion, I gain strength.
Through strength, I gain power.
Through power, I gain victory.
Through victory, my chains are broken.
The Force shall set me free.
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Through strength, I gain power.
Through power, I gain victory.
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Re: Downfall to the Turnabout (Prologue 1/2 Out!)
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And yes, that was what I was going for. I like darker.
Anyway, thanks for reminding me that I actually still have this, lol. Again, been busy so haven't been able to update. But, in reality, there's nothing to update so far. I AM still working on this.... just not actively. I've been thinking of perhaps shortening the case from my original plans, simply so I could spare on time, because from to looks of what I had planned (I say 'had' because I can only somewhat remember it) it would have been quite long. So, yeah, still alive. Will probably fix up Prologue 1 and slowly start moving up to Prologue 2 (for which, I've actually had some quite... interesting ideas, to say the least). But, we'll see.
Now, if you'll excuse me, I've got a certain PyWright case to play. ;)
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