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BlueJay, why are you voting for me if you don't have evidence? You just admitted you don't have evidence in your post. Answer this or I'm ignoring you because you keep dodging this question
Well, you could say that I'm trusting my instincts. That's because we don't have evidence at the moment. Also, READ every damn word I said and THINK about what I said.

If it does turn out you're town again, then this more indicates that YOU need to change your play style rather than the entire CR mafia team having a vendetta against you
How so? You and the others treat me like I'm the Mafia. And I'm not going to change my play style. You guys are the ones who take my play style too seriously, and it got to the point where you and the others took it too far.

You haven't researched shit to back up any of your claims against me
At a point in which we don't have any evidence? That's rubbish! Like you would says you have done some research and make up some nonsense claim.

Welcome to mafia
Maybe you know what you're doing, and you're acting like you don't know a damn thing about what's going on in this thread. It's clear that you're bluffing it and treating me like I deserves it.


I have stated my evidence repeatedly (or at least as much "evidence" as one can expect in a mafia game without a cop report)
And what evidence would that be? If it is what I said, it's not going to help your case. Plus, we can't count on Larry Butz to get the information, because we don't know how accurate his information will be.


My answers are in bold.

Also, you guys are not relying on your instincts. Trusting our instincts is the key to getting the Mafia. If I was Mafia, would I have taken the time to write something like this? No way, because that would blow my cover. That and if I wrote something like this, I would have omitted some things from what I'm saying in the statements that I'm giving.
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:udgey: Putting time into replies makes you Mafia?!

Is that a hard and fast rule?

Am I infected with Mafia?! Will I turn? :larry:

Instincts are good and all man but if someone is straight up acting suspicious it just makes sense to change your original position.
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:udgey: Putting time into replies makes you Mafia?!

Is that a hard and fast rule?

Am I infected with Mafia?! Will I turn? :larry:

Instincts are good and all man but if someone is straight up acting suspicious it just makes sense to change your original position.

^ this right here

bluejay i didnt vote for anyone till i had a reason too and you have indeed given me a reason.

fun fact mafia games evidence is based on not only things that happen...but how the players act and react to others in the game...which you continue to fuel rather then defend yourself. and for the record as its been said this doesnt bring jesusmonroe outta the dog house either its just your being way more suspicious then he is.
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BlueJaythePirate wrote:
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If it does turn out you're town again, then this more indicates that YOU need to change your play style rather than the entire CR mafia team having a vendetta against you
How so? You and the others treat me like I'm the Mafia. And I'm not going to change my play style. You guys are the ones who take my play style too seriously, and it got to the point where you and the others took it too far.

This isn't exactly the best attitude to have in a game like Mafia. Acting in a way that gets you killed early on a regular basis doesn't help your team.

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Whew, back on this thread just in time to see... that anything I say in the last two hours will probably mean nothing. I have my own suspicions, but at this point I doubt I can convince anyone.
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Whew, back on this thread just in time to see... that anything I say in the last two hours will probably mean nothing. I have my own suspicions, but at this point I doubt I can convince anyone.


Shoot anyway. I'd quite like to hear your thoughts.
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...... Idiots....


You guys don't get it, do you? You NEVER relies on your instincts! How many times do I have to say it until you guys get what I'm trying to say! I'm saying that we have to trust our freaking instincts, and you guys acted like you never heard me say it!

You guys just want to see me rage more and more, giving you guys plenty of reasons to vote for someone like me!? JesusMonroe is the one who started all this mess, just to see me rage so much that he would be off the hook and me being on the hook. Shouldn't he be on the hook instead of me?! It's all his fault.

THINK about what I said!

That'll be all.
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Pierre wrote:
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Whew, back on this thread just in time to see... that anything I say in the last two hours will probably mean nothing. I have my own suspicions, but at this point I doubt I can convince anyone.


Shoot anyway. I'd quite like to hear your thoughts.

id also like to hear your thoughts.
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BlueJay, my instincts are telling me you're mafia. Happy?
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BlueJaythePirate wrote:
...... Idiots....


You guys don't get it, do you? You NEVER relies on your instincts! How many times do I have to say it until you guys get what I'm trying to say! I'm saying that we have to trust our freaking instincts, and you guys acted like you never heard me say it!

You guys just want to see me rage more and more, giving you guys plenty of reasons to vote for someone like me!? JesusMonroe is the one who started all this mess, just to see me rage so much that he would be off the hook and me being on the hook. Shouldn't he be on the hook instead of me?! It's all his fault.

THINK about what I said!

That'll be all.


Look man, you had no solid evidence to say someone is Mafia for definite.

Also no one is saying JM is off the hook only that he's not quite as suspicious as you right now.

Think about all the villainous breakdowns in AA, how many of them rant and rave in the final moments? You are just fuelling the fire by acting like them.
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Cold52 wrote:
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sumguy28 wrote:
Whew, back on this thread just in time to see... that anything I say in the last two hours will probably mean nothing. I have my own suspicions, but at this point I doubt I can convince anyone.


Shoot anyway. I'd quite like to hear your thoughts.

id also like to hear your thoughts.

Ok.
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I just got out of a long mafia game so I guess it's not a big deal if I'm booted from this one quickly

Monroe, you are telling us that while presumably nearing the end of a mafia game, you signed up for another mafia game set to happen almost directly afterwards. You were then ready to drop out, only to come back in a few posts later. This reversal, it's almost too sudden. But surely you can say otherwise.
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I just got out of a long mafia game so I guess it's not a big deal if I'm booted from this one quickly

Monroe, you are telling us that while presumably nearing the end of a mafia game, you signed up for another mafia game set to happen almost directly afterwards. You were then ready to drop out, only to come back in a few posts later. This reversal, it's almost too sudden. But surely you can say otherwise.

id just like to go ahead and confirm he has been in a long mafia game...as that was a game i was in...and died night 1 on...
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See, what did I tell you? It will probably mean nothing.
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sumguy28 wrote:
See, what did I tell you? It will probably mean nothing.

naa its good that you pointed that out as i didnt even see him post it. hopefully as the game goes on we wont miss things that might be important so always good to keep your eye out for stuff :)
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Throwing in a vote tally in the morning. ^_^

Vote Tally:

JesusMonroe: 2
Pierre
Franzise Deauxnim
BlueJaythePirate
JesusMonroe

Pierre: 0
JesusMonroe

BlueJaythePirate: 3
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Death Row: BlueJaythePirate

BlueJaythePirate is now dead! I guess another rookie bites the dust. Y'see, a rookie killer like me beats all the players! Town, mafia, I just beat 'em all to bits and intimidate them with my manly good looks. *licks thumb, slicks back bald spot* Oh yeahhhh.

... Ahem. *blushes* It is now Night One. There's a phase change finder at the top of the opening post for easy travel between threads. This post will be added shortly. A dead thread will be constructed as well.

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We're allowed to talk during the night, right?

@Sumguy As cold said, I was telling the truth. I was just frustrated earlier because I was being lynched on very stupid logic and figured "fine, I don't even want to play if they're gonna be stupid like this." Yes, it was childish. I was just frustrated. I'm fine now

Isn't every day like D1 if rolecards aren't revealed? What new info are we supposed to have to go on now?
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Of course, that's a given. That's always been in all three of the sites that merged and in VSM. So the rebirth mafia here still has that.
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JesusMonroe wrote:
We're allowed to talk during the night, right?

@Sumguy As cold said, I was telling the truth. I was just frustrated earlier because I was being lynched on very stupid logic and figured "fine, I don't even want to play if they're gonna be stupid like this." Yes, it was childish. I was just frustrated. I'm fine now

Isn't every day like D1 if rolecards aren't revealed? What new info are we supposed to have to go on now?


Like I said earlier

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In any case this game is constructed around risk, JM isn't off the hook yet, Sumguy is also down on my list for now, perhaps a little poking at him in time will alleviate that. Still since alliances aren't revealed upon kill you just need to alleviate your doubts before you declare victory.


Basically we need to wipe out enough people that we are confident about declaring victory. To the point we have less doubts.

As it's in the title: It's the worst game of Mafia :basil:
If you want out however, feel free to Declare Victory, you'll either end the game or die
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Basically we need to wipe out enough people that we are confident about declaring victory. To the point we have less doubts.

As it's in the title: It's the worst game of Mafia :basil:
If you want out however, feel free to Declare Victory, you'll either end the game or die

the only real clue were gonna get sadly is dependent on what the mafia decides to do. until then its either we continue to eliminate people who we think it could be or take a risk and declare victory killing us off if were wrong.
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Basically we need to wipe out enough people that we are confident about declaring victory. To the point we have less doubts.

As it's in the title: It's the worst game of Mafia :basil:
If you want out however, feel free to Declare Victory, you'll either end the game or die

the only real clue were gonna get sadly is dependent on what the mafia decides to do. until then its either we continue to eliminate people who we think it could be or take a risk and declare victory killing us off if were wrong.


I dunno, we have one role somewhere as well after all. Perhaps someone can detect villainy in some form? Other than that yeah, it's a game of paranoia and sacrifice.
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It would be pretty disappointing if I just declared now and won, though
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I dunno, we have one role somewhere as well after all. Perhaps someone can detect villainy in some form? Other than that yeah, it's a game of paranoia and sacrifice.

but wouldnt that depend on when the mafia actually does somthing? if the mafia does a hit tonight we know for sure there still alive. if they use there ability in a noticeable way wed be able to identify what role they are or in one or two cases the person with the role would know...in which case it would likely still be bad to reveal himself and that information.
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I dunno, we have one role somewhere as well after all. Perhaps someone can detect villainy in some form? Other than that yeah, it's a game of paranoia and sacrifice.

but wouldnt that depend on when the mafia actually does somthing? if the mafia does a hit tonight we know for sure there still alive. if they use there ability in a noticeable way wed be able to identify what role they are or in one or two cases the person with the role would know...in which case it would likely still be bad to reveal himself and that information.


Or they could not and allow us to believe they are dead resulting in someone declaring victory and promptly dying while the Mafioso guffaws in the background.
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It would be pretty disappointing if I just declared now and won, though


Nah I think it's be hilarious and memorable for the accomplishment of such a perfect game.
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Or they could not and allow us to believe they are dead resulting in someone declaring victory and promptly dying while the Mafioso guffaws in the background.

I was going to bring this up immediately after the phase change, but yeah, this is a thing. So is the rare chance of the mafia hitting Diego, for that matter.
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IT IS NOW DAY TWO.

No one died. As far as I can tell. My glasses are kind of foggy right now. My grandkids keep pestering me with my spray-bottled flop sweat. :payne:
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For the record, I'm aware that the mafia could choose to not kill someone if they wanted to. It's actually a good strategy in this game--lay low and let the town just get more and more paranoid with each kill and no nightkill happening

However, I really really want to claim victory
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You're aware that if you're wrong, you die, right?
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You're aware that if you're wrong, you die, right?

Yup

I mean, I would definitely do it if it was only bad for me but I don't want to hurt the town by taking a leap of faith (this offer only holds D2, since the only reason I want to do this would be from the sheer awesomeness of winning the game after only one kill)
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I still don't think BlueJay was mafia, but other than that I personally don't have any meaningful objections; at the worst, it'll let us know whether the enemy is still alive or not, and if we take a risk like this, now would be the time to do it.

I think it'd be a good idea to hear from everyone else first, though.
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i also don't have any objections to doing this as it stands were gonna have to do it eventually.
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It's strange, you didn't think it was a great plan earlier JM. Do you just want out or is the appeal of an awesome perfect game just that strong? XD

In any case my plan is a lot more boring.
If JM declares and is right, great. If he's wrong we go down to 4 vs 1. If we lynch it's 3 vs 1 (assuming we don't hit Maf or aren't sure), if the Maf is Daryan the game is won as he'll kill two in the night (assuming someone doesn't have the power to stop him) and it's game. This goes off earlier if it's Godot we hit.

So the Mafia only wins when we're wiped out or at a number where they overpower us. We could always just sit here a while and see what happens. Be it 5 rounds or be it 50, we could play a patience game. Not-lynching or nothing. Living in peace so-to-speak. Sure we're ultimately waiting for someone to kill us but it might confirm to some that the Maf is truly dead.

It's also absolutely possible that a protection role was successful last night instead of the Mafia playing upon our paranoia by holding back.

At the least we could wait until Night Three to see if any of us have Celeste. We shouldn't waste any numbers needlessly as if the Mafia acts in that night, then we are losing two people anyway. I'd say we hold off declaring victory until that point at least.
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Theoretically waiting around for a week is a sound suggestion, but realistically I think we'd all lose a lot of interest in the game by then.
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You guys are right about that. I mean, what's a game of murder without a buncha corpses?

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Oh, I got an idea! Man, what would you guys do without my guidance? It gives me paws, you know. I'll even say it in a nice red color.

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In this game type, any No Lynch cannot be followed by another No Lynch. There must be at least one lynch between two No Lynches. If the town does not lynch the day following a No Lynch, this results in the automatic forfeiture of the town. The same goes for hit requests, as well. There cannot be two nights in a row with no hit requests. Failure to comply with the hit request rule results in automatic forfeiture of the mafia.

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JM, what's your role?
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Nothing that would be detrimental to the town if I died (and I'm not Godot)
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Fine, anyone else care to claim a role? Actually I don't care if you say what the role is, just whether you have one.
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