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cesar26100 wrote:
That plan sounds way too risky...if the power role dies then having confirmed townies will be no use.
Howso?
Also which plan?
My plan acknowledges casualties but I think if the maths works out we'll win the race.
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Pierre wrote:
There's also the chance we lynch Cesar and the Mafia hit the power role meaning it's all just a bunch of losses as we wouldn't get Cesar back.
Let's assume cesar is town but NOT a power role
D3: We lynch Cesar
N3: Power role revives Franzise, power role gets killed
D4: We lynch sumguy
N4: Scum will most likely choose to no-lynch
D5: We lynch cold or Pierre
N5: We'll know if scum is alive or not based on whether or not they lynch
Essentially, we win the game as long as we follow up every single "nobody died during the night" with a lynch
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Though I'd hope he'd come out with it before it boiled down to that.
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However, there is the possibility that Franzise was the power role and died, but I doubt that's the case considering she never claimed during our little fiasco
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Actually, guys, the Mafia obviously knows what they're doing. If they saw what kind of plans we're coming up with, they'll change their plans, so they'll be one step ahead of us.
It's either that or no plans at all.
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Actually, guys, the Mafia obviously knows what they're doing. If they saw what kind of plans we're coming up with, they'll change their plans, so they'll be one step ahead of us.
Explain to me how the mafia can circumvent this plan
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Actually, guys, the Mafia obviously knows what they're doing. If they saw what kind of plans we're coming up with, they'll change their plans, so they'll be one step ahead of us.
Yeah the Mafia will obviously know our plan, but the point is there's only so much they can do to stop it. They get to kill one person a night (maybe 2 if they are Daryan). Other than that their actions as town are the only way they can influence this really.
We can't discuss plans privately as the town, the plan is to tie them up in a way that they cannot escape.
Also I claimed earlier I was a Vanilla townie, that statement remains true.
What's your reasoning behind Cesar being a power role?
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Let's borrow your plan, so I can explain what parts of the Mafia's plans that they are willing to change. Know that this an example of what I'll show you.
JesusMonroe's plan wrote:
D3: We lynch Cesar
N3: Power role revives Franzise, power role gets killed
D4: We lynch sumguy
N4: Scum will most likely choose to no-lynch
D5: We lynch cold or Pierre
N5: We'll know if scum is alive or not based on whether or not they lynch
N3: Power role revives Franzise, power role gets killed
D4: We lynch sumguy
N4: Scum will most likely choose to no-lynch
D5: We lynch cold or Pierre
N5: We'll know if scum is alive or not based on whether or not they lynch
Assumes we're going by your plan, the bolded parts will points out what the Mafia will do instead of what your plan originally asks for.
What the Mafia will actually do wrote:
D3: We lynch Cesar Mafia would probably do nothing as to avoid suspicions being casted on themselves. Or they can votes for Cesar. Either way, the Mafia won't be discovered this way.
N3: Power role revives Franzise, power role gets killed The chance of Mafia hitting town power role is low. Not much to go on here.
D4: We lynch sumguy Mafia may vote for sumguy
N4: Scum will most likely choose to no-lynch Mafia would chooses to kill someone.
D5: We lynch cold or Pierre. This would be a tough choice for the Mafia, so they have to decide who deserves to be lynched.
N5: We'll know if scum is alive or not based on whether or not they lynch. Not much to says about this. There's no way to be sure if the Mafia is still alive or not.
N3: Power role revives Franzise, power role gets killed The chance of Mafia hitting town power role is low. Not much to go on here.
D4: We lynch sumguy Mafia may vote for sumguy
N4: Scum will most likely choose to no-lynch Mafia would chooses to kill someone.
D5: We lynch cold or Pierre. This would be a tough choice for the Mafia, so they have to decide who deserves to be lynched.
N5: We'll know if scum is alive or not based on whether or not they lynch. Not much to says about this. There's no way to be sure if the Mafia is still alive or not.
And that's how I think the Mafia will do to ensures they won't be discovered this way. There's no telling which plan the Mafia will uses to their advantage.
Sorry if this doesn't help us in any way.
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The only reasons I see to Cesar resisting the plan are that he's the power role or that he's scum
Now, IF Cesar is the power role, I suggest he says so. Now that we know what power role we're dealing with, it's less risky to claim. If Cesar is the power role and claims, he'll get killed on N3 HOWEVER:
(Let me note this. I'm not asking the power role to claim. I'm asking Cesar to claim)
1. Franzise will still be revived
2. We'd be more likely to lynch scum today (and Cesar wouldn't die)
Also, out of non-confirmed towns, sumguy has moved to the top of my town leans. I suggest you move your vote off of him, Pierre
Vote: Cesar
BlueJay, let me say that it doesn't matter who votes for who during the day if all of the "town" is agreeing to go with one plan
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My plan doesn't rely on specific power roles, only that someone comes forth and claims their power. Is there some strong objection to it?
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Pierre wrote:
Of course...if it turns out the reviver WAS Morgan and she did this just to mess us all up then things are going pretty accordingly to plan about now.
My plan doesn't rely on specific power roles, only that someone comes forth and claims their power. Is there some strong objection to it?
My plan doesn't rely on specific power roles, only that someone comes forth and claims their power. Is there some strong objection to it?
That's a pretty long con
And I don't have a strong objection, but I feel like it might be a better idea...not to? I know I'm not the power role and it's pretty clear you're not. Sumguy isn't either (trust me). That leaves Cold, Cesar, and Franzise.
If Cesar is the power role, then we lynch Cold today.
If Cold is the power role, then we lynch Cesar today.
If Franzise is the power role...that's an issue. We'd probably default to Cesar and then see what happens from there.
Though, upon writing this, I realized that it doesn't matter if the power role claims or not because scum will be able to figure it out from PoE.
So yeah, power role should probably claim. Though, my reasoning for this is different from yours
Also, unvote Sumguy. He's definitely town
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theres a possibility that they decide not to lynch anyone but that would be far too risky and could backfire badly.
as for any debate about a possibility of morgan or sister bikini i honestly see no benifit for mafia to revive anyone so im pretty positive we have sister bikini.
Vote: Cesar
if you all like I can claim after the next day as proof im town (assuming i dont get lynched by mafia) and dwindle down the possibility of whos mafia if we dont win.
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Also Pierre you didn't explain why you unvoted sumguy.JM said that he was town,but didn't explain why.
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cesar26100 wrote:
JM,what makes you so sure that sumguy is town? And why do you not include lynching Pierre as a viable option to your plan? He is not a confirmed town,so why do you think that the only options are to lynch me or cold to confirm whether we are town? I want to hear what makes you think that your plan will assure us victory even if we lynch the power role.
Also Pierre you didn't explain why you unvoted sumguy.JM said that he was town,but didn't explain why.
EDIT: It's kinda hard to do that when you're not online.
Also Pierre you didn't explain why you unvoted sumguy.JM said that he was town,but didn't explain why.
EDIT: It's kinda hard to do that when you're not online.
I know man I was worried you would be kept away so much you wouldn't be able to state a case before the lynch.
Oh I was just trusting JM on the matter. His plan should work, the Mafia can't team up (there's only one of them) so they can't try and boost each other's credibility so he must have a good reason for asking me not to vote Sumguy.
Yeah I'm still an option as a potential suspect, I'd say JM probably thinks I don't have a power yet you might therefore it's you today.
Might be me tomorrow, probably will be, but Town doesn't need everyone to survive to win.
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Because I don't agree with JM's plans and I want him to respond before making any sort of claim.
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Okay,guys,go ahead with the lynch.It's just going to be hard for me to revive Franzise,but oh well.
aaaaaaaaand...either stupid town or confirmed mafia.
I will now confirm i am sister bikini and am willing to off myself by declaring victory as long as you lynch him...unless you guys want to do somthing else.
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Well I don't believe I have a lynch vote on you but that's the defence I was expecting. Of course it's up to the others how they read it.
Assuming you are telling the truth in my eyes that's you, JM and Bluejay who are in the clear.
Which means I'd suspect Sumguy or Cold for now. JM seems to have some faith in sumguy however so I suppose I'll see if they vote cold.
Course they could also lynch me but I'd hope not.
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Well that's the game then. We lynch you now and Cold declares victory next turn. If he doesn't he gets lynched. Either way both people get wrapped up neatly. An innocent town has no reason to lie about the power after all.
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Of course, it's also possible that Cold is Morgan and will do the same thing, but that's a lot more risky and he already offered to claim victory
As for why I think sumguy is in the clear, it's this post. I'll see if someone else can figure it out
sumguy28 wrote:
I am "a vanilla townie." Of course, saying this after you asked doesn't add a lot of weight to this statement.
It's either that or no plans at all.Is there anything in the rules about using binary?
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Actually, guys, the Mafia obviously knows what they're doing. If they saw what kind of plans we're coming up with, they'll change their plans, so they'll be one step ahead of us.
It's either that or no plans at all.
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aaaaaaaaand...either stupid town or confirmed mafia.
Also, for some reason I think the former is a very real possiblity
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aaaaaaaaand...either stupid town or confirmed mafia.
Also, for some reason I think the former is a very real possiblity
Lets hope not otherwise it mucks everything up for the town.
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If no one dies tonight we have Cold declare victory?
If Cold still dies then Cesar messed us up in a bad way.
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Pierre wrote:
So phase two of the plan.
If no one dies tonight we have Cold declare victory?
If Cold still dies then Cesar messed us up in a bad way.
If no one dies tonight we have Cold declare victory?
If Cold still dies then Cesar messed us up in a bad way.
pretty much...at least i can revive franzie tonight as a buffer if cesar tried to screw us over like this....unless im not able to revive someone if im killed...which reminds me...
ami assuming the scenario if cesar decided to do somthing like this, mind telling me if reviving is possible if mafia targets me tonight?
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pretty much...at least i can revive franzie tonight as a buffer if cesar tried to screw us over like this....unless im not able to revive someone if im killed...which reminds me...
ami assuming the scenario if cesar decided to do somthing like this, mind telling me if reviving is possible if mafia targets me tonight?
ami assuming the scenario if cesar decided to do somthing like this, mind telling me if reviving is possible if mafia targets me tonight?
In other mafia games I've played, you should still be able to revive her
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To determine if we got Mafia, it would be best if we wait until Day 4, to see if one of us died during the night.
If one of us DOES died during Night 3, well, we're down one town. (2 townies if the Mafia decides to kills during the night phrase.)
If one of us DOESN'T died during Night 3, victory for the town!
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So, night 3, huh?
To determine if we got Mafia, it would be best if we wait until Day 4, to see if one of us died during the night.
If one of us DOES died during Night 3, well, we're down one town. (2 townies if the Mafia decides to kills during the night phrase.)
If one of us DOESN'T died during Night 3, victory for the town!
To determine if we got Mafia, it would be best if we wait until Day 4, to see if one of us died during the night.
If one of us DOES died during Night 3, well, we're down one town. (2 townies if the Mafia decides to kills during the night phrase.)
If one of us DOESN'T died during Night 3, victory for the town!
Wait, what? This is N3 right now
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Franzise Deauxnim has returned to life!
Day Four begins.
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So, we'll obviously vote no-lynch today
Vote: No-Lynch
Ami, would you shorten the day phases to 24 hours if everybody gave their consent? I obviously would
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