New 3DS adventure from former CING staff!
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Today it was announced that Arc System Works will be releasing a hardboiled mystery adventure on the 3DS eShop this Spring titled -Chase- Mikaiketsu Jiken Sousaka ~Tooi Kioku~ (-Chase- The Unsolved Cases Section - A Faraway Memory~). Working on this title are Taisuke Kanasaki (director, character designer of Another Code/Hotel Dusk) and other former staff members of CING, together with ASW's own team. The serious-toned, dramatic game will combine good-old fashioned hardboiled adventure* goodness together with flashy visuals that invoke the atmosphere of a TV police drama.
http://www.gamer.ne.jp/news/201603110050/ (news)
http://www.arcsystemworks.jp/chase_tooikioku/ (official site)
(*My note: Arc System Works has been a co-developer/publisher for the Jinguuji Saburou/Jake Hunter series for quite some years now, which is one of the oldest adventure franchises in Japan (the oldest, perhaps). That is a hardboiled adventure game series too so it's definitely not strange ASW is working on this title, for those who only know the company for its fighters).
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But seriously glad to know those guys got work and I'm pretty sure I heard Jake Hunter was OK so here's to a fruitful partnership.
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Pierre wrote:
But seriously glad to know those guys got work and I'm pretty sure I heard Jake Hunter was OK so here's to a fruitful partnership.
(To be perfectly honest, the Jake Hunter games from ASW have been very hit-or-miss. The ones from Data East (Famicom~PS1 era) were much better, but they went bankrupt and ASW bought the whole franchise. ASW's Jake Hunters have been fairly inconsistent, though they always have fantastic music)
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I'll wait for the full staff announcement, but I kinda get the feeling Rika Suzuki (writer for AC/HD) won't be on this since last I heard she left the gaming industry to start a publishing company. It'd be nice if they got her back, but even if they didn't, hopefully the full package is strong.
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A bit sad it's just a downloadable game (but given the current market, it's no surprise), partly because that means chances of localisation are... small. To say the least. Also because it might be a bit on the short side. Oh well, glad we're getting ANYTHING at all. Not sure who convinced them to get back together, but that person deserves a medal.
Also, kinda ironic this news comes so close to the 6th "anniversary" of CiNG's bankruptcy : /
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EDIT: Rika Suzuki isn't involved? Nooo... but it might still be something special.
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L~A wrote:
Actually, Rika Suzuki started that new company of hers with former CiNG staff too, so I'm curious who they got for this game. I really doubt she's involved.
A bit sad it's just a downloadable game (but given the current market, it's no surprise), partly because that means chances of localisation are... small. To say the least.
A bit sad it's just a downloadable game (but given the current market, it's no surprise), partly because that means chances of localisation are... small. To say the least.
Well, we've got this download only title:
And although it's probably much shorter and less translation work than -Chase- it at least means they aren't just automatically going to ignore it, because it's a Japanese DL only title.
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Lusankya wrote:
L~A wrote:
Actually, Rika Suzuki started that new company of hers with former CiNG staff too, so I'm curious who they got for this game. I really doubt she's involved.
A bit sad it's just a downloadable game (but given the current market, it's no surprise), partly because that means chances of localisation are... small. To say the least.
A bit sad it's just a downloadable game (but given the current market, it's no surprise), partly because that means chances of localisation are... small. To say the least.
Well, we've got this download only title:
And although it's probably much shorter and less translation work than -Chase- it at least means they aren't just automatically going to ignore it, because it's a Japanese DL only title.
Whoaaa, that got localized? Honestly never expected any of the ASW/Intense games to make it to the West.
Speaking of Intense, it doesn't seem like they're involved in this game... What exactly is the relationship/difference between ASW and Intense?
Also I could just be overlooking something, but I don't see anything about the length/price of Chase. It could be a 500 yen game that's the same length as Parascientific Escape.
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Ash wrote:
(To be perfectly honest, the Jake Hunter games from ASW have been very hit-or-miss. The ones from Data East (Famicom~PS1 era) were much better, but they went bankrupt and ASW bought the whole franchise. ASW's Jake Hunters have been fairly inconsistent, though they always have fantastic music)
Hmmm, from someone who's never heard of Jake Hunter, exactly what do you mean by inconsistent?
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Feroz El Mejor wrote:
I need this game too much, it's supposed that Kyle Hyde games were about to have a third game to end, Nintendo has the characters rights, but I think that they can "parody" all characters to bring they with other names. I only want the last game.
Now that I'm aware Rika Suzuki who basically created the whole Kyle Hyde IP isn't likely to be involved I'm excited but still curious.
That said, like you I always felt like there should've been a third and final Kyle Hyde game after how Last Window ended. I felt the involvement of Nile a second time was an interesting idea and I always pictured this third Kyle Hyde kind of game where the focus was slightly less on the mystery of some building but maybe 2-3 environments and like Last Windows compared to Hotel Dusk, the stakes would've been lifted higher once more. I liked how Last Window had some really dangerous moments of people holding you at gunpoint and stuff. Not that I preferred a new game to be all cop-action-drama but I would've liked to have seen you get in deep to the Nile syndicate and its infrastructure and have a plot heavily featuring that.
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Bad Player wrote:
Speaking of Intense, it doesn't seem like they're involved in this game... What exactly is the relationship/difference between ASW and Intense?
Intense is a developer, specializing in escape-the-room adventures. ASW is both a developer and publisher. For a lot of their DL only 3DS adventures, they act as publisher. With the Jake Hunter/Jinguji Saburo series, it kinda depends on the title. WorkJam has the actual rights to the series, I think, though most of the games are published by ASW, and they actually often co-develop the games together with WorkJam.
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Ash wrote:
(To be perfectly honest, the Jake Hunter games from ASW have been very hit-or-miss. The ones from Data East (Famicom~PS1 era) were much better, but they went bankrupt and ASW bought the whole franchise. ASW's Jake Hunters have been fairly inconsistent, though they always have fantastic music)
Hmmm, from someone who's never heard of Jake Hunter, exactly what do you mean by inconsistent?
Some have been okay, some have been bad. The one that was released in the US was probably one of their worst efforts. There's a reason why there's not have been a new Jake Hunter/Jinguji Saburo since the 25th Anniversary game released back in 2012 (spoiler: IT WAS HORRIBLE). But there have been good ones too. The PSP one was amazing. The other DS games were also getting better and better.
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Ash wrote:
Some have been okay, some have been bad. The one that was released in the US was probably one of their worst efforts.
Hmm, so that explains why I didn't particularly care for it when I tried playing that one a while ago. I remember it being really dull. Too bad that was the game that Aksys chose to localize, though being the first DS game in the series, I guess it made sense.
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Even listening to that music and looking at those characters gives me a Hotel Dusk/Last Window vibe! I can't wait for this to not be localized!
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I remember I played the expanded version of the Jake Hunter DS game (I think the Japanese release included remakes of a couple of the famicom ones and some new cases. What they did was they cut the game down to three cases for some bizarre reason and released it as Jake Hunter: Detective Chronicles. Then they re-translated and released the full version of the game as Jake Hunter: Detective Story - Memories of the Past, which is the one I played and the one I recommend if you are going to get it). I remember it being OK and a good distraction but it wasn't AA level by a longshot. Some of the other games looked interesting but I remember the publisher of the DS game saying that the game didn't make enough money to bring over any more so that's a shame. I'll take any detective/mystery 3DS games (I don't even like Pokemon but I want that Detective Pikachu game - which by the way, is that coming to the west?).
But while this sounds good, I wonder what the chances of it being localized are.
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D.A. McCoy wrote:
Then they re-translated and released the full version of the game as Jake Hunter: Detective Story - Memories of the Past, which is the one I played and the one I recommend if you are going to get it). I remember it being OK and a good distraction but it wasn't AA level by a longshot. Some of the other games looked interesting but I remember the publisher of the DS game saying that the game didn't make enough money to bring over any more so that's a shame.
The 'problem' of Memories of the Past is that is based on the mobile phone games: the first five episodes are just the first five mobile phone games (the first four being remakes of the first four Famicom games) and only the last episode was original (and the shortest. And most boring). The original Famicom games were classic, command-style adventures and one of the earliest console games to be focused on a hardboiled, adult story, but they streamlined the stories A LOT for the mobile phones, making it a very linear experience.
I really wish the series had more exposure in the west, because it was a fairly big adventure series back in the time and has 'connections' in surprising ways. Nojima, best known for penning Final Fantasy VII, VIII, X and Kingdom Heart and more? Started out on the Jake Hunter series. Kodaka of the Danganronpa series? Started out as a scenario-writer for the mobile phone games of Jake Hunter. He even wrote a couple of Jake Hunter novels.
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Ash wrote:
D.A. McCoy wrote:
Then they re-translated and released the full version of the game as Jake Hunter: Detective Story - Memories of the Past, which is the one I played and the one I recommend if you are going to get it). I remember it being OK and a good distraction but it wasn't AA level by a longshot. Some of the other games looked interesting but I remember the publisher of the DS game saying that the game didn't make enough money to bring over any more so that's a shame.
The 'problem' of Memories of the Past is that is based on the mobile phone games: the first five episodes are just the first five mobile phone games (the first four being remakes of the first four Famicom games) and only the last episode was original (and the shortest. And most boring). The original Famicom games were classic, command-style adventures and one of the earliest console games to be focused on a hardboiled, adult story, but they streamlined the stories A LOT for the mobile phones, making it a very linear experience.
I really wish the series had more exposure in the west, because it was a fairly big adventure series back in the time and has 'connections' in surprising ways. Nojima, best known for penning Final Fantasy VII, VIII, X and Kingdom Heart and more? Started out on the Jake Hunter series. Kodaka of the Danganronpa series? Started out as a scenario-writer for the mobile phone games of Jake Hunter. He even wrote a couple of Jake Hunter novels.
Yeah I did a lot of research on the games when I was playing through Memories of the Past and I remember wishing that some of the older ones would have come out here. There was also one announced for 3DS that had looked interesting - I remember mostly being able to look around crime scenes in a more "point-and-clicky" way than DD showed off - in fact maybe DD hadn't shown the 3D investigation yet, I don't remember. Either way, it's a shame they took what sounds like one of the more mediocre games in the series and made that game the one that determined the series' future in the west.
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(In case you're interested, I have reviews of some of the games)
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Ash wrote:
The 3DS one was, sadly enough, horrible. It was released as the 25th Anniversary game back in 2012, but it was nothing at all like the other games. It was basically an Escape-The-Room game (hence the 3D scenes), with bits of story in between. Search the room for clues/way to escape/evidence/whatever -> bits of dialogue -> new room -> etc. Not only was it radically different from previous games, (which were very human interaction-centred stories), the escape-the-room sequences were bad too (you get time penalties for /every/ action you take, so unless you know the right sequence, you will get a game over the first time in almost every room...). The series has not seen a new entry since the 3DS game, and I'm pretty sure it was because it was just that bad.
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That's a shame to hear, and thanks for sharing that link! I'll check it out.
Are there any fan translations of Jake Hunter games, or is Memories of the Past pretty much going to be it for me unless I go back into trying to learn Japanese again? (took a semester in college, got a B, understood some stuff and really enjoyed it, but it was too much work to try and have a Japanese minor with my Cinema degree and so I didn't follow up. Now I get kind of depressed because I think I lost a lot of it. Maybe if I go to grad school I'll be a Japanese minor.)
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Ash wrote:
I don't know anything about the fan translation scene, but I don't think they're out there. At least, I've never seen anyone mention them (then again, I don't see people mention Jake Hunter anyway)
Yeah in all honesty I kind of forgot about it after I played it until this conversation lol. Too bad.
I just hope this new CiNG game gets localized. I'm starting to run out of 3DS puzzle/adventure games to play.
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Lusankya wrote:
Well, we've got this download only title:
And although it's probably much shorter and less translation work than -Chase- it at least means they aren't just automatically going to ignore it, because it's a Japanese DL only title.
And although it's probably much shorter and less translation work than -Chase- it at least means they aren't just automatically going to ignore it, because it's a Japanese DL only title.
So hey, thanks to this post, I decided to get this game for myself. Here's a review.
First of all, it took me just over 4 hours to complete, split across four chapters and a prologue. Quite a bit longer to complete than I expected for a $5 game in this genre.
Each chapter contains an escape the room type scenario, except unlike 999 and VLR, you can travel back to previous rooms if you want (and it's also necessary, but it's usually obvious when that is needed and there's quick travel). Story sections are placed between chapters and sometimes partway through chapters, which play like a visual novel without choices.
The gameplay mainly consists of inventory puzzles, logic puzzles, and the advertised psychic puzzles. The psychic puzzles are basically block moving/rotating puzzles, but nowhere near as sinister as the ones in Layton games. Your character has the abilities of clairvoyance (see through stuff) and telekinesis. So starting out, the puzzle is obstructed from view and you need to use your limited clairvoyance power to place circles that you can see through. Then you can use your limited telekinesis power to move or rotate the items within the puzzle. I almost never had problems with these, but they made the last one a bit tricky, so I'm satisfied with the gameplay.
The story is ok. I enjoyed it overall, but there are parts where it dips in quality. Fortunately it doesn't outstay its welcome, because the story segments aren't very long.
The localization is terrible in places, but fine overall for a cheap title like this. It seems like they didn't have the time or money to do sufficient editing, but at least it works most of the time. There are a few times where it gets in the way of the gameplay though, but I managed to figure out what I was supposed to do in this cases without much trouble.
The graphics are better than I expected. It's like 999 where the backgrounds are pre-rendered 3D modeled images, but I was surprised at how often these images would change after you changed something in the room. I remember 999 putting most things back into place before zooming out of a closeup, for example. The character portraits are fine.
One interesting thing is that they set this game up for a sequel. The story is self-contained, but they leave some unanswered questions open for that. This is interesting because the developer is known for making games spread across all the genres instead of focusing on a few.
So in the end, I would recommend this to anyone who is itching for Zero Time Dilemma to come out. As long as you keep an open mind about the story and localization, it's a good four hours spent. It's well above a lot of the eShop shovelware out there.
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(Please do not repost elsewhere. Just link to this post).
Spoiler:
As for now, the premise sounds a lot like the superpopular Japanse drama Aibou. A special, single-man section inside the police department with a weirdo in charge who doesn't get along with his partners?
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Still not sure how I feel about the game being DL-only, but we'll see how much content it has.
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Please, please. Someone localise this.
Edit: watched the op again, and the music really sounds like Satoshi Okubo... but part of me is convinced I'm just trying to convince myself of that. Hope they post more details (including list of staff) soon.
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Hmm, that premise sounds like the Layton Brothers game. I suppose that was inspired by Aibou too.
First thing that crossed my mind when I read the chapter.
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Title: Chase - The Unsolved Cases Section ~ A Faraway Memory
Release: Spring 2016
Price: TBA
CERO: All
Development: G-Collection
Scenario: Mayu SAKURA
Game design / Character design: Taisuke KANASAKI
Catchcopy: Is it a case? Or an accident? A case from the past starts moving again because of one phone call...
A new hardboiled adventure arrives from development staff who also worked on Another Code and Hotel Dusk. Set in modern-day Tokyo, a strange detective of the Unsolved Cases Section and his assistent chase after the truth behind unsolved cases. The visuals that make it feel like you're watching a drama or film are also attractive. What is the truth behind the case that has fallen asleep once before?
Find out the truth
Five years ago, Yuta MIMURA caused a explosion accident. He's usually a calm kid, but can be childishly innocent to the people whom he trusts. Why did he cause an explosion?
The truth and human psychology portrayed dramatically
As you talk with the witnesses in the interrogation room, you'll look back at the past conversations with the people involved, and as you go over the case again, you chase after the truth.
Prologue
The Unsolved Cases Section situated within Tokyo Police Station 3. The weird detective Shonosuke NANASE and (self-proclaimed) elite detective Koto Amekura, who have too much free time, receive a phone call saying: "That wasn't an accident. It was murder." It was about an explosion accident that happened five years ago. Nanase and Amekura start their investigation because of this mysterious phone call. Was it perhaps really a criminal case?
Shonosuke NANASE
Weird police detective of the Unsolved Cases Section of Tokyo Police Station 3. Is usually not motivated, but when he gets serious, he exhibits sharp powers of observation and imagination.
Koto AMEKURA
Self-proclaimed elite police detective assigned to the Unsolved Cases Section of Tokyo Police Station 3. Is motivated and pro-active, but her ideas aren't always right.
Touch the Crime Scene Pictures!
As you go over the details of the old investigations, crime scene photographs are displayed on the lower screen. Touch the places you want to investigate and collect new information. You can zoom in on the photograph, so look in every corner.
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Do we know yet if it's going to be 3DSware or a full-length game, though?
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Ash wrote:
I don't even think the Japanese 3DS eShop has digital-only titles of what you call a 'full-length game'.
Hmm, fair point. I suppose after DD's English release, the idea of 'full-length' digital only games has stuck with me as a possibility... but as you point out, that's not the Japanese 3DS eShop.
Welp, I guess all we can do then is hope Chase does well, and gets some (spiritual) sequels. I definitely wouldn't mind if it became a series like 脱出アドベンチャー or something.
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Question though: Are people interested in reading this story? I don't mind translating them, as the chapters are really short, but I'm not sure whether people are actually reading this or not.
Spoiler: Chapter 3
"One dumbbell, Watson! Consider an athlete with one dumbbell! Picture to yourself the unilateral development, the imminent danger of a spinal curvature. Shocking, Watson, shocking!" - The Valley of Fear
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