Khura'inese language

Sun Jul 03, 2016 8:58 pm

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I thought I'd make a thread on words and phrases in Khura'inese. So far, we have the following phrases:

Hap'piraki: The Khura'inese greeting.
Pohlkunka: An exclamation of surprise.
Satorha: Nahyuta's unique speech bubble. The "h" is silent.
Ur dihara: Used in "Ur dihara Khura'in!" and

Spoiler: Case 5

. Could mean "All hail" or "Long live" in Khura'inese?
Dahmalan: Khura'inese instrument similar to a guitar.
Satorha imao mando mo samashi detashi nu ketare gasayo sonoka: A Khura'inese sutra, recited by Nahyuta Sahdmadhi.
Warbaa'd: A Khura'inese bird
Pahpul Boljhig hell: A special hell where the more you struggle, the lower you fall into the abyss, and at the bottom of the abyss, there's a vicious beast.
Kachu'demahl: "Khura'inese chess".
Pohlkunan: Someone who's a real piece of work.
Nahmanda: A Khura'inese flower.
Gingihl: A Khura'inese dish that is made before the Purification Rite.
Hahtin'supaise: A Khura'inese dish. Pun on "Hot and spicy"
Mehl'tenmoht: A Khura'inese dish. Pun on "Melt in mouth"
Bahlgilpo'kon: Another special hell.
Ja'gar: An endless punishment carried out by the galuun of Puhlmo'ten.
Galuun: Something to do with Puhlmo'ten.
Puhlmo'ten: Something to do with bahlgilpo'kon
Guhljaama: Something to do with bahlgilpo'kon
Zuh'shiray matahmee yomah: A prayer that is given for a fallen one.
Banu'puun: A Khura'inese dish that Nahyuta was reminded of when he test-tasted Bucky's soba.

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Re: Khura'inese language

Sun Jul 03, 2016 9:21 pm

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I collected some terms here and there.

Case 3:
Gingil / gingir - a Khura'inese dish that's usually served before fasting for the Bird Princess ceremony.
Gezogezo frog - some sort of frog/toad Rayfa mentions (and describes Nick to be)
Pohlkunsha - someone who shouldn't exist / is incredibly absurd in every way

...I recall Nahyuta said something in Khura'inese in the 4th case (aside from his sutra), but I'll need to check back to it.

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Re: Khura'inese language

Mon Jul 04, 2016 1:38 am

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Almost forgot to mention: The "h"s in hap'piraki and satorha are silent.

Also, I don't know why they put an "H" at the beginning. It should have been spelled "ahp'piraki".

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Re: Khura'inese language

Mon Jul 04, 2016 6:25 am

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Yash K. Productions wrote:

Mitamah/ミタマ: Soul of the deceased. Same as in Japanese.

Do you know when this word is used in this game? Seeing it without any context, I'm more likely to believe it's just the Japanese word written in katakana instead of kanji, not a Kurainese word, because code-switching between the various Japanese scripts is one of the characteristics of writing in the original Ace Attorney games. I remember that mitama is usually written in kanji in this game, so perhaps it was just used once in katakana to show the reading of those characters?

Edit: By the way, I assume that the name Ikusadori / イクサドリ (the bird with the lion's roar) is a name of Kurainese origin.

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Re: Khura'inese language

Mon Jul 04, 2016 1:56 pm

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Ash wrote:

Yash K. Productions wrote:

Mitamah/ミタマ: Soul of the deceased. Same as in Japanese.

Do you know when this word is used in this game? Seeing it without any context, I'm more likely to believe it's just the Japanese word written in katakana instead of kanji, not a Kurainese word, because code-switching between the various Japanese scripts is one of the characteristics of writing in the original Ace Attorney games. I remember that mitama is usually written in kanji in this game, so perhaps it was just used once in katakana to show the reading of those characters?

I think it pops up in the final CE of case 1? Can't remember any other instance for sure.

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Tue Jul 05, 2016 1:47 pm

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Yash K. Productions wrote:

Almost forgot to mention: The "h"s in hap'piraki and satorha are silent.

Also, I don't know why they put an "H" at the beginning. It should have been spelled "ahp'piraki".

I guess cause the new one looks like "happy lucky." Not that that's good localization

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Re: Khura'inese language

Tue Jul 05, 2016 3:25 pm

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Bad Player wrote:

Ash wrote:

Yash K. Productions wrote:

Mitamah/ミタマ: Soul of the deceased. Same as in Japanese.

Do you know when this word is used in this game? Seeing it without any context, I'm more likely to believe it's just the Japanese word written in katakana instead of kanji, not a Kurainese word, because code-switching between the various Japanese scripts is one of the characteristics of writing in the original Ace Attorney games. I remember that mitama is usually written in kanji in this game, so perhaps it was just used once in katakana to show the reading of those characters?

I think it pops up in the final CE of case 1? Can't remember any other instance for sure.

Oh yeah, I'm sure it's not used as Kurainese word, but a Japanese word there.

Spoiler: Case 1

And I remember now it also said mitama in katakana in the Japanese-language translation of the song Nick got. Emphasis on Japanese-language.

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Re: Khura'inese language

Tue Jul 05, 2016 7:56 pm

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Found this on Twitter:

So it appears that the "Satora imaoman" spell is an anagram.

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Re: Khura'inese language

Tue Jul 05, 2016 8:03 pm

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Can we add Papul Bolzig to the list? I hear it's a kind of special hell where you're in constant freefall with demons clawing at your flesh 'til you land into the den of the beasts (antlions) to be consumed.

Nice find on the anagram... but it becomes a question with how the other words are supposed to be deciphered.

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Re: Khura'inese language

Tue Jul 05, 2016 8:05 pm

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Rubia Ryu the Royal wrote:

Can we add Papul Bolzig to the list? I hear it's a kind of special hell where you're in constant freefall with demons clawing at your flesh 'til you land into the den of the beasts (antlions) to be consumed.

Nice find on the anagram... but it becomes a question with how the other words are supposed to be deciphered.

Katakana please?

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Re: Khura'inese language

Tue Jul 05, 2016 8:16 pm

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パプルボ─ルジグ

Though I may need to check it again to be sure.

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Re: Khura'inese language

Wed Jul 06, 2016 10:11 am

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Yash K. Productions wrote:

So it appears that the "Satora imaoman" spell is an anagram.

Not making any comments on whether I think it's correct or not, but the "translated" Japanese text from that tweet means: 'Oh unenlightened, tainted soul. Even the founder's patience has its limits'. The second line, 始祖様の顔も三度まで / Shisosama no kao mo sando made, is a variation of an actual Japanese saying, 仏の顔も三度まで(撫ずれば腹立つ), meaning literally 'Even the Buddha will get angry if you stroke his face thrice', or basically: 'Don't push it'.

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Wed Jul 06, 2016 10:04 pm

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Ash wrote:

Yash K. Productions wrote:

So it appears that the "Satora imaoman" spell is an anagram.

Not making any comments on whether I think it's correct or not, but the "translated" Japanese text from that tweet means: 'Oh unenlightened, tainted soul. Even the founder's patience has its limits'. The second line, 始祖様の顔も三度まで / Shisosama no kao mo sando made, is a variation of an actual Japanese saying, 仏の顔も三度まで(撫ずれば腹立つ), meaning literally 'Even the Buddha will get angry if you stroke his face thrice', or basically: 'Don't push it'.

Perhaps it's the same as the phrase he has in English: https://twitter.com/vaguelyhorrible/sta ... 9193480192

Re: Khura'inese language

Thu Jul 21, 2016 6:06 pm

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http://www.ne.jp/asahi/game/gyakusai/6/neta/moji-01.html
This link contains every Khura'inese word and phrase found in the game, and the reading of every Khura'inese character, except for "ね" (ne).

Another interesting thing to note: I might have misread it, but it shows Minister Inga's full name...?

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Re: Khura'inese language

Thu Jul 21, 2016 8:51 pm

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His full name was longer than that. All I see is the example with "Warrior of the Underworld Torisaman".

I'm just trying to figure out how they write the Khura'inese character for ぬ. Is it one stroke? Two? Three?

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Thu Jul 21, 2016 8:59 pm

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Whoops! Here is the link for the Khura'inese words (The one I provided was for the "Khura'ingana" as I like to call it): http://www.ne.jp/asahi/game/gyakusai/6/neta/etc_01.html

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Re: Khura'inese language

Sun Sep 11, 2016 11:17 pm

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I noticed that some Khura'inese words are puns, such as "Kachu'demahl", or Khura'inese chess/shogi. (Catch them all). ~~Ace Attorney and Pokémon crossover confirmed~~.

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Re: Khura'inese language

Mon Sep 12, 2016 12:06 am

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This is entirely trivia, but I notice the initials of Inga's name spell

Spoiler:

I don't know if this was intended, but it certainly comes together in the end.

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Re: Khura'inese language

Mon Dec 12, 2016 7:12 pm

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I made up a sort of "idiom" in Khura'inese:

"Keh'garay pohlkun ki satorha!"
"ケガレ・ポルクン・キ・サトラ！"

Keh'garay -> From Japanese "汚れ" (Kanji might be wrong), literally "tainted".
Pohlkun -> From "pohlkunan", someone who's a real piece of work
Ki -> What would basically be the Hindi equivalent of "の".
Satorha -> Self-explanatory.

So it would literally mean "Enlighten this tainted fool!". It's true meaning? "Kill yourself".

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