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Happy New Year, fellow Ace Attorney fans!

We'd like to kick off the new year by releasing a taste of what's to come with the translated Demo of The Great Ace Attorney - The Adventure of Ryuunosuke Naruhodou. We're sorry we couldn't finish Episode 1 in time for New Year's, but please enjoy this until it's ready. Let us know what you think.

This free fan-translation uses the dialogue font of Dual Destinies, so you will need to own a version of it in order to play our patch. Team If would like to remind you that we DO NOT support piracy - so please, please don't share a completed CIA with other people. We know the patcher is not very user-friendly yet, at the time of the release it was less then one day old. It will be much better in time for our Episode 1 release.

Fellow fan-translators: we would absolutely love to see The Great Ace Attorney translated into many, many more languages, so fans all around the world can enjoy it. We're working on a program to take in "representatives" of other groups to work closely with our translators, so you can get all the nuances right in your native language. We're currently not sure when we can start with this program, because it shouldn't interfere with our releases of the English Episodes, so please be patient and don't just steal our work.

Regarding voice-acting: we're not sure what we're going to do here, to be honest. We may offer an alternative patch with voice-acting in the future, but no promises yet. We'll see.

It's no secret among Ace Attorney fans that our decision not to localize character names and re-locating the story to the US is controversial. We hope you will understand our decision (which was unanimous among our translators), after you've played Episode one. We still tried to keep the typical "Ace Attorney feel" and we do try to localize jokes and references so they work in English, but the nature of the Game - in our humble opinion - makes white-washing the main cast impossible. Yes, we're aware of a completed translation script that does exactly that. As a team, we disgree with the direction it went, we believe the "liberties" it took to fit the Game into previous localisations were way to drastic, even for Ace Attorney standards. The resulting change of atmosphere and even character's personalities were simply too much for us to accept. You can form your own opinion on this matter by playing our take on the translation before condemning it.

Remember - we're fans, too!

-- Team If - DGS Division

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Last, but not least: we are still looking for a skilled reverse engineer (knowledge of ARM ASM and the 3DS in particular would be great) to help us figure out some of the remaining mysteries of the game. Other helping hands for inserting and proof-reading text can apply as well, but please note that we do not take testers.



Patch:
https://mega.nz/#!OM9BEayR!NFcBpu9qTo9C ... mafSzYWgUY

Font Dumper:
https://mega.nz/#!LBcUiSbR!Bcyfr-w9yXdS ... Li79McxkBM


PS: Yes, "People", not "Profiles"...
PPS: Yes, "Post Mortem" - it's not a complete autopsy and the Japanese word was different, too...

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Hows about you not call it "white-washing" to completely insult the entire AA localization team's decisions? The leader of it isn't even white, and here you are basically calling them racist.

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Haha,great to see that DGS is getting translated! Can't wait for the fans to start enjoying it's glory!

Honestly,I don't even care about the white washing controversy at this point. I just wish for it to be released to a more general public.

I think this should be in Mathis' Corner,though.
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Yeah,what I'm saying though is I don't care personally how the names are localised. I just wish this to be released to a wider audience.
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"White-washing" might be kind of a strong term for what he's describing, but if that's the word he wants to use to describe it he can *shrug*

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Blizdi, I'm pretty sure the OP's point was the this is a game that relies on Japan and its history much more than any of the main series games, and so they strongly preferred to maintain the original setting and names. Please don't assume the absolute worst of people from one turn of phrase.

Excellent work, team, and congrats on this first release!
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Is there still a way to get the original DGS demo or are people who don't have it boned?
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Considering the good number of characters from all the world in the game (Japan, UK, Russia, etc...), i wouldn't have changed their names as well.
Localize Ryuunosuke as an American? That would be too odd. Phoenix, or Ryuuchi, at least, lives in an modern city and except for somethings like Kurain Village it was possible to "hide" a bit the culture behind it. But in DGS it's clear Ryuunosuke is from Japan.

So i'm glad they didn't change the names. But i would be ok for an english dub.

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The demo runs fine,but why are the voice clips still in Japanese? Is this temporary or do you wish to leave it the same?
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Just a few things.

Firstly, on the subject of piracy, the point is that CR itself cannot contain any link to roms (or CI files), or explain how to find them. If you want to pirate, you can use google to find the info you need.

Secondly, given the fact that Phoenix doesn't give much info about his family, it's entirely possible that his ancestor was from Japan. As such, there would be no need to heavily localise. Also, it would be confusing. So I think the team had a decision to make, and they were justified either way.
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This is really exciting! I thought DGS would never end up fully translated, but this is very well-done and gives me high hopes for a complete version. Then again, I also thought AAI2 would never get a full English version, but we ended up with an extremely high-quality and complete one.

If you do decide to do English voice acting, I would love to help out. I have a pretty good deep male voice and I've tried to get in on projects like this in the past, but I usually find out about them too late.
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Will the translation for the full game require FBI? I was hoping I'd just be able to use a legal physical copy and run the patch via the Homebrew Loader.
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Most of you probably already know this, but you can install CFW on all 3DS firmwares now: https://3ds.guide/

This will probably always be the preferred way of using our patch!

Again: having a CFW installed is legitimate for region-free playing and using fan-patches for your legally-owned Games. We still don't support piracy.

(I added this note for CR because of some vile individuals suggesting we do).
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There's no need to call them vile. Just inquisitive.
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I would argue that a person is fully responsible for all reasonable consequences of her work.
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As far as I'm aware, Capcom are pretty fair to people who wander into a gray area regarding copyright. Street fighter x Megaman was doing the rounds as an "illegal" wip fan game for a couple of years before Capcom offered to help produce it.

All of the fan art and musical remixes of Capcom games that are hosted on websites that feature advertising are also technically "illegal" in most countries. Yet Capcom are always very positive, and even provide links to these works through official channels. If I worked at Capcom, I would actually be pretty proud that some fans cared enough about the game to translate it.

Wouldn't it be nice if we could just praise the hard work of the fan translators?
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This and that are two very different things. Bringing one up as if it affects the other is a somewhat amateurish technique, as is relying on ad hominems. Though I was wondering if the "whitewashing" bit, as inapt as it would be, was a reference to me; may I take this to be an affirmation?

The difference between your examples and what you are doing is that making knives is perfectly legal. Making plastic bags is perfectly legal. You are correct that what I have done is much the same; the difference is that I do not absolve myself of the negative consequences.

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I do not make a single penny off of any of my videos, actually, for exactly this reason.

If you did not want to call me out, you did not have to. You could have let the issue drop; nothing was forcing you to do otherwise. I am not bitter over how things have gone; why would I be? Saddened, perhaps, that I was not even given the opportunity to correct mistakes, saddened that what patch will exist seems to be going the hyper-literal route, but not bitter. But you chose to mischaracterize my translation, which does make me angry. Changing names does not amount to "whitewashing." Every Japanese person is still Japanese; every Russian is yet a Russian; every Englishman remains an Englishman. Personalities were not changed to make this happen.

And yes, I am responsible for what my more... let us say zealous fanboys have wrought. Which is why I immediately took action to correct it, when I realized what I had unwittingly unleashed. That outcome is my one biggest regret over how the entire thing went down.

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