Re: GS4 Contradictions (Spoilers, almost every case)
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Spoiler: "4-1"
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yoshi927 wrote:
Spoiler: "4-1"
Phoenix said there were red and blue cards. They shuffled through decks throughout the game. In the final match they used red cards.
Olga testified to this as well.
Spoiler:
This is proof that there were definitely red and blue cards.
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WhiteElephant wrote:
yoshi927 wrote:
Spoiler: "4-1"
Phoenix said there were red and blue cards. They shuffled through decks throughout the game. In the final match they used red cards.
Olga testified to this as well.
Spoiler:
This is proof that there were definitely red and blue cards.
Spoiler: "4-1"
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yoshi927 wrote:
Spoiler: "4-1"
Spoiler: 4-1
Also, a question, sorry if it's been answered already: Was Olga's testimony of Phoenix "lunging across the table" to get the locket true? I can slightly understand taking off the locket, but lunging?
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Spoiler: 4-4
Spoiler: 4-4
Also not really a question, I'm questioning the sanity of Pal Mekritis
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rydus65 wrote:
Spoiler: 4-4
It's been a long time since I played that case, so forgive me if this was the wrong instance you're referring to. Are you talking about the part in the flashback where you're talking to Zak? If that's the case, Kristoph wasn't in prison yet. He was still up and running about until after 4-1. I don't recall if Brushel said anything else about that with Apollo...
rydus65 wrote:
Spoiler: 4-4
Kristoph said it was her charm for when she went outside the house, so she only needed to put it on when she went outside. She stayed in the house for 7 years I guess, so she wouldn't have needed the nail polish until the trial.
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Trucy wrote:
Oh hey! An attorney's badge? Daddy has one of those too. Here, give that to me a second... Now watch as I make it disappear!
Phoenix's badge was taken when he was disbarred, wasn't it?
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Spoiler:
Spoiler: 4-3, 4-4
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Croik wrote:
Spoiler: "Case 3"
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Izanami wrote:
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I think the reason Valant helped Lamiroir was because she reminded him of Thalassa, but he thought Thalassa was dead; remember, it wasn't until Phoenix talks to him later in the MASON system (chronologically after the performance) that Valant admits he never actually saw her dead body. I think Valant helped Lamiroir so he could be close to someone who reminded him so much of the woman he loved. A part of him was probably hoping it was actually Thalassa, but I got the feeling that he had come to terms with her "death".
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Superninfreak wrote:
Croik wrote:
Spoiler: "Case 3"
They did. They put the incinirater in to destroy the cocoon so if anything went wrong (it did,) they could remove the evidence.
planned to take the cocoon out before the first act (thats why he stole the keys, to get into the guitar case) but he couldn't. I think it was because either the lock was jammed or he never got a chance to be alone with the case.
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Maybe not contradiction worthy, but it's kind of curious.
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Another question would be where was Daryan keeping the second igniter (the one found in Lamiroir's room). Obviously, he would have to install it after the shooting since he would need to create the fake murder time. However, why would he have another one (and with firecrackers to boot)? He'd have to stow it someplace away a bit since it would have gone off if close enough when Machi set Klavier's guitar on fire.
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Then as to the minkiku powers phoneix has trucy by him when he played that is how he won
Also the manson system isnt exactly wat phoneix did in the past and present of 7 yrs it is a way to just show the jury how the events went down nothing more as for using evidence from the future in the past i dunno but it wasnt a exact reconsturction of how things went down
OBJECTION " i objection this is objectionable"
OBJECTION " i object to the witnesses talkitiveness"
OBJECTION " i object to the witnesses talkitiveness"
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yoshi927 wrote:
Spoiler: 4-1
As I understand it, Phoenix forged the card at the scene, meaning he used 'Shadi's own blood.
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Unless Phoenix and Maya were buying noodles from his dad? I can't remember if they say that or not.
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It wasn't just the family check up that scared the Kitakis straight: it was the fact that Wocky had been hurt in the first place. So really they could have been weening themselves off the crime lifestyle for the past several months.
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You think it's a contradiction that Apollo was able to... solve a case?
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Spoiler: 4-3. This is one of the contradictions on the site
Spoiler: My explaination for that
....Sorry if that was too long, I just wanted to note something. Finally I have another contradiction I'd like to point out.
Spoiler: 4-3
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Croik wrote:
Spoiler: 4-3
You think it's a contradiction that Apollo was able to... solve a case?
oops, sorry I didn't write all of my sentences.
what I meant to say was Spoiler:
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Super Judge Bro. wrote:
I have a explaination for one of the contradictions in 4-3 that is currently on the site.
Spoiler: 4-3. This is one of the contradictions on the site
Spoiler: My explaination for that
If I understood that right, you're either wrong or there's another contradiction.
You're assuming that all of the transceivers broadcast to all of the other transceivers, but we know that they can be used to communicate exclusively between two people because Daryan told Machi to press the switch, and the only other person to hear that was Lamiroir, who heard it through the vent. I don't think LeTouse's transceiver had anything to do with him knowing that Lamiroir witnessed the crime.
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General Luigi wrote:
Though relatively insignificant, and not plot-related, I happened to notice an odd difference between Ema's sprite from Phoenix Wright and her sprite from Apollo Justice: her eye color. Unlike Phoenix's darker skin or Meekins's non-bandaged hand, this one strikes me as difficult to explain other than the designers forgetting Ema's less noticeable details.
I always was confused with her eye colour in GS1. Sometimes it looked like they were brown, yet other times, they were clearly blue. It confuzzled me.
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Writer Awakened wrote:
Not that it clears up the debate or anything, but at one point (I don't remember where) Valant mentions something about Troupe Gramarye winning the Magician's Grand Prix (I think it was when he was in the detention center in the MASON System, but I'm not sure). I thought it was cool that they mentioned that, actually.
Maybe Max winning was just a one-time upset?
Maybe Max winning was just a one-time upset?
I think it's mentioned during that trial 7 years ago, and then
is like "that's a trip down memory lane that nobody needs" or something to that effect.
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Marshmello wrote:
If I understood that right, you're either wrong or there's another contradiction.
You're assuming that all of the transceivers broadcast to all of the other transceivers, but we know that they can be used to communicate exclusively between two people because Daryan told Machi to press the switch, and the only other person to hear that was Lamiroir, who heard it through the vent. I don't think LeTouse's transceiver had anything to do with him knowing that Lamiroir witnessed the crime.
You're assuming that all of the transceivers broadcast to all of the other transceivers, but we know that they can be used to communicate exclusively between two people because Daryan told Machi to press the switch, and the only other person to hear that was Lamiroir, who heard it through the vent. I don't think LeTouse's transceiver had anything to do with him knowing that Lamiroir witnessed the crime.
At least put that in a spoiler tag, oh well.
[spoiler]I said that my explaination was risky in the first place. But I still think that LeTouse somehow heard Lamiroir and knew she was nearby. Okay maybe the gunshot could have also been picked up by Daryan. Anyway. LeTouse also wears hearing aids, it's a fact that some people wearing hearing aids can even have a better sense of hearing than a normal human. He could have heard Lamiroir singing thanks to those. I forgot to state that earlier.
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And enough about the grape juice bottle! Maybe because Shadi's head snapped back so easily, it provided little resistance to the bottle and that's why it didn't break. Maybe grape juice bottles are made of super strong glass in the future. Maybe the amount of juice left in the bottle (or not left) had something to do with it, I don't know. Maybe the murderer had a wussy swing and Shadi had a soft head. But unless you can prove that there's no way to hit someone with a bottle *without* breaking it, this question belongs on mythbusters more than it counts as a contradiction.
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The orange juice bottle in the circus shattered easily because of its low thickness rate. I bet it was actually very light and the glass was very thin, therefore the glass could have been broken over Ben's cranium without problem. Also, you could consider this: Maybe Max hit Ben with the hollow section, not the butt of the bottle. That alone makes it easier for the bottle to be broken.
As for Shadi's hit, that's a whole different story, the impact was made with the butt of the bottle. Plus, it was stated that Kristoph planted a bottle with Phoenix's prints (and that, by the way, was actually quite bloodstain-less) on the scene, so it matters not if the original bottle shattered or not, because the bottle presented was not the real murder weapon.
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Apollo sees that Lamiroir disappears with a brooch, and reappears without one. So, this must mean that there were two Lamiroirs, right? WRONG. Lamiroir herself said that when she witnessed the murder, she dropped her brooch. I couldn't explain how she moved so fast, but I could tell she dropped it in the vent. Nada contradiccion, senor Justice.
Something that frustrated me was the location of LeTouse's body, and the location of the bulletholes. Unless Daryan moved the body (which is impossible, since there is only blood where LeTouse fell) then it means that THAT location; where his body fell; was between the bulletholes and the killer. Meaning, the killer was practically up against the mirrors. The whole case, I took the assumption that the shots were fired from the little window, but I guess this didn't turn out to be the case...Daryan and LeTouse had to have been talking to each other before the struggle. Why does this not make any sense?
"Mr. LeTouse! D-Don't worry! Help is on the way!...Who did this?"
"I...don't.....know..."
He then continues to ramble on about something he should have known LESS about...the witness. Remind me never to put LeTouse in charge of a murder investigation.
Witness: "I clearly saw Mr. Diego shoot the victim!"
LeTouse: "But...that leaves us with a problem. Who committed the murder?"
Judge: "Mr. LeTouse, I feel that I should give you an infinite penalty just for that comment..."
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As for moving through the vent that was explained during the game. From the time Lamiroir is on stage to the moment she disappears that was proven to actually be Valant in disguise. From the beginning of the song- maybe even earlier Lamiroir is moving through the ventilation system to get to the rising platform. Her brooch probably fell off while she was walking.
I have a contradiction of my own actually. Lets see if it'll stand against the pressure.
4-2 contradiction: Feet please?
First lets look at the order of events that occurred.
1. Phoenix gets hit by Pal's car. Paint splatters around because he also knocked over some cans.
2. Stickler steals Trucy's panties, hides in Pal's garage and stuffs the panties inside the muffler/exhaust pipe.
3. Alita comes around, tries to get the documents from Pal and he strangles her. He believes her to be dead. Went to his car and couldn't make it start so he took the noodle stand and emptied out the bowls to make room for Alita and the gun (no idea why he wouldn't just keep the gun himself or something but whatever)
4. He rolls around the cart to the park and meets Wocky. Alita wakes up and shoots Pal in the temple as soon as Stickler (who was stealing more panties) yells out to them to stop whatever they're doing.
5. Wocky runs to who knows where and Stickler runs off to the nearest phone booth to call the police.
6. Alita escapes sometime during this and walks off while wearing her slippers. She throws them out in the trashcan and leaves the park.
I have two problems with this.
First: Alita's slipper footprint was found in the mud right outside of the cart. But when we find the slipper theres not mud but PAINT on it. Wasn't paint splattered outside the Kitaki mansion and not in the middle of the park?
Second: If there was paint outside the Kitaki mansion then when Alita took off the slippers wouldn't she have to walk through the paint (she can't go back inside the park, especially if Stickler is around). If she did that then wouldn't there be footprints of her feet made by said paint. Kitaki goons would be around too I think, especially if Pal's side mirror was discarded in the trashcan.
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