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As a mockup screenshot...
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And yes, of course I know that Franziska isn't even IN PW:AA but I'm just using her as an example here of the quality level I'd be looking to do. (I got this idea from someone's mockup screenshot of an HD Super Metroid, pictured below.)
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Fortunately a lot of high-quality work is already available in the art-book scans from Court Records' Official Art section. Some, however, aren't that high-quality and would need a little manipulation and enhancement (probably nothing too difficult) to make them game-ready. Plus each one would need mouth and eye animations done. But when the graphics and such are there, though, I think I know just the way to get them all plugged in to a pretty nice deal.
Please let me know if any of you would be willing to work together with me on this project... Thanks...
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It might work better for a fangame or something though, as I don't feel like replaying the game just to see fancy graphics.
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I actually think I can manipulate RPG Maker 2003 or XP to do the trick. I could accomplish the story stuff with those EASILY. But making it handle the trial dynamics, evidence, etc... That'll be a little more tricky. Still, I think I've got that covered. Art! Animations! That's what I need! Bwa ha ha!
EDIT: So basically what I would need is some manips. So far I have this:
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The image on the left comes from the art book and as you can see, is higher resolution and overall higher quality than the original game sprite on the right. But, I don't have the other mouth animations for her pose there. So I still need a version of that higher-quality left image, manipulated to make her mouth look like the one in this image:
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So you get what I need to do? Does that make sense? LOL
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It might work better for a fangame or something though, as I don't feel like replaying the game just to see fancy graphics.
What about just for the story? Maybe if I say screw the trial dynamics and just give the stuff that would be shown on the upper screen? So basically it'd end up being like one of those Japanese e-novel-game-thingamajigs, heh.
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Unfortunately, I'm not much of an artist or art manipulator so... I can only cheer you on from the sidelines. Heh. ^_^;;
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For the moment, as a proof of concept, I'm hoping to get just a very (VERY) small playable portion released so I can be like, "Ok here's 30 seconds worth of HD PW action! Want moar?" :P I'll keep you all posted...
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I think I may already have someone for Franziska for JFA... I just so happen to know a gal with a German accent. So I'll have to see how she does at rehearsing a flurry of fool-related comments. :D
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This project has given me another idea... A visual novel of "Franzy's whippety whip trip!" By Laurice Denauxinim! But that's for another time, maybe in a few months. :)
Reply and tell me what I can help with! (But we'll have to see about the mouth thing coz ATM I suck at photoshop.)
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JakeARoonie wrote:
Well, who from the first game do YOU think you could do well? Phoenix? Edgey? Udgey? Maya? o_O Gant?
I think I may already have someone for Franziska for JFA... I just so happen to know a gal with a German accent. So I'll have to see how she does at rehearsing a flurry of fool-related comments. :D
I think I may already have someone for Franziska for JFA... I just so happen to know a gal with a German accent. So I'll have to see how she does at rehearsing a flurry of fool-related comments. :D
I'll go for Damon Gant since I can do well for him.
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Selom T wrote:
My brother has a mic so I'll see who I can audition for! (if thats ok with you) I can get alot of art but its all coming from the art of GS book. I can look around the net for more but thats all I can find for now. Also, I'm not making any promises (coz i'm a newbie when it comes to this...) but i'll try and do Franziska's mouth. It'll probably be rubbish but hey.
As far as Franziska's mouth, hey, something's better than nothing! And yeah, most of my "high-quality" art is coming from the Art of GS book, but some of the scans on Court Records aren't of the highest resolution. If you can get me scans in a higher quality, please do. I'll PM my email addy to you. And yes, feel free to audition for whatever! I may audition for Phoenix myself... I'd like to give him kind of a different tone when he narrates in between scenes. (If you played Final Fantasy X, kind of like how Tidus' voice changes tone when he narrates... A little deeper, slower, and more serious than during an actual scene.)
In auditioning for Gant, gimme a little of his happy "have you been swimming lately" side, and a little of his serious "don't @#$% with me" side, hehe. :D
When auditioning happens, I'll probably post all the different voice clips for a given character, but without the auditioners' names attached to keep anyone from playing favorites with each other...and to keep me from having an unfair advantage in auditioning for Phoenix. :) It's only fair. :D
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Though it kinda sucks. But hey, I guess it's better than noting, right?
Spoiler: Franzy's Mouth Change
What do you think?
Also, There are mouths on the left side of her head.. I forgot to delete them when i finished editing.
Hope it's good anyway!Also, I'm not quite sure where to get bigger scans from (i get all my GS needs from court records) but i'll look around the internet anyway. Hopefully I can find some or I'll put out a post on CR for bigger scans as I dont have the GS artbook myself.
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I think a complete overhaul with the art, characters and voices would work wonders.
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The sprite was quickly thrown together, so you can see the green spriting outline around her, but the purpose was to see if I could get animation working simultaneously as a text box display. The answer is yes, I can.
The problem -- if it is actually a problem -- that screenshot is actual size. RPG Maker produces games at 640x480 resolution. That's not exactly what I'd call "high definition," but it's certainly much higher quality than the resolution of the original. In addition to the higher res, we can process millions of colors, as opposed to the somewhat limited palette of the original. So for example, let me pull up the images I showed before:
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Notice the shading on Franziska's outfit. You can see the shading lines in the image on the right as it goes from one shade to the next. In the image on the left (which we would be able to use), the shading is much smoother, and of course the image is larger.
So with that screen above being actual size, that means the backgrounds would not need to be larger than 640x480. Actually, when the screen shakes (ie when someone "hits" Phoenix), it causes a little problem on the background if it's exactly 640x480, so I'd say they don't need to be any larger than 660x480. This allows 10 extra pixels of wiggle-room on each side. (Shakes are horizontal only, so we don't need extra room on top and bottom.)
Any contributed sprites should be able to fit comfortably inside that 640x480 window. I might have made Maya a little too small... She's about 310 pixels tall in the above screenshot... Which means when I used the textbox on the bottom, it covered practically all but her forehead, so I moved it to the top.
Also, I'm having a little technical issue importing MP3s to the game at the moment, but I expect to have that resolved by the end of the day.
Thoughts so far?
And sure, feel free to do Gant's laugh. (By "traditional," do you mean the one where he goes nuts at the end of the trial and can't stop laughing?) It'll have to be recorded at some point! XD
Oh and my last question is, Gerkuman, how would we "overhaul" the backgrounds? >_>
Selom, thanks for the work on Franziska. I think the only thing that needs to be changed to make it look a little more natural is to raise her jawline, which I'll see if I can do. After all, her jaw should be a little higher than in the "open" pose, since you know, her mouth's closed! :)
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What you're doing right now would be if you put the metroid from that picture onto the NES Metroid background. Go for realistic backgrounds :D I know it'll take time, but there we go.
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I've got RPG maker XP but I have no idea how to use it
It dosn't work for me for some reason...But if you can lead me to a tutorial for all the things I may need to work with it, I could help contributing with the work. Also, do you know anywhere where we can find the full sized backgrounds? (Are they on CR?)
Let me know if I can help
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I perfer AA on handheld rather than TV. But if they do ever make an HD Gameboy, let's hope Capcom doesn't show Fransiska's thighs in the next AA remake. Normally you only seee the characters above their hips.
And why the bloody hell not?
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You do have a point, Gerku. I was kind of thinking a similar thing about realistic backgrounds, like maybe using actual photos and piecing them together into backgrounds that look like the scenes. But... Hmm, I could do that for the park scene (except for the blow-up Steel Samurai), but not sure about the others. The courtroom could be difficult because American courtrooms don't actually have that layout, plus I'm sure photography is prohibited in the courtrooms near me. I had to defend myself in court once (btw, I won) and it looked nothing like these courts. But a photo background with cartoon attorneys superimposed over it, I kind of like that thought, but not sure how to pull it off the right way.
Otherwise, hmm... To make it look realistic... I'm open to suggestions there.
Overhauling backgrounds, sprites, music... I guess this brings us almost into full-on "remake" territory here! LOL
RMXP is actually pretty difficult to collaborate with other people on. I appreciate the offer for help on it, but it's ok. I actually find it pretty easy, so that's one thing where I really feel I'll be ok. :) Spriting is gonna be the difficult part. If you'd like to help there, feel free. Sprites will need to be in .PNG format, and everything outside of the actual sprite graphic needs to be a single color that's unused anywhere else. (In the graphic above, a bright green was used. This or bright pink are typical. White wasn't usable because of Maya's wide-open mouth, and black would cause outline problems. I didn't use pink in that one either because of Maya's sleeves. As long as everything outside of the character is a single color that's not used anywhere else, it's ok.) Please not JPG, it's imprecise on color when you get down to the pixel level. This will cause bad outlines like the one visible on Maya here. Finally, make sure not to blend or smooth the edges around the character. Even though that sounds like a good thing, it also distorts the shade of green (or whatever other "outside color" you chose), which also results in the nasty outline. (I forgot to turn anti-aliasing off in Paint Shop Pro, that's what actually caused the outline on the pic above.) Hope that helps. :)
And lastly... Franziska's thighs ftw <3
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JakeARoonie wrote:
Oh yeah, forgot to mention. Anyone interested in a voice part, please email me a sound file with you saying a few lines as your chosen character. Don't forget to tell me who you're auditioning for!
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I'm not going to bother... apparently Americans think Kiwi accents sound like aliens T.T That's the last part I'd try out for
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OK, what do y'all think so far? Here's something to compare. Does it look like we're on the right track so far?
Spoiler: Original version vs. Remake
Also, let me know what you think of the lobby. I have 2 others ready, but I picked this one because it required the least modifications (the others had to be resized up, not too much but caused them to blur ever so slightly)...plus this looks eerily similar to the lobby at the court I've been to, heh.
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LOL, well who did you have in mind? o.O
OK, what do y'all think so far? Here's something to compare. Does it look like we're on the right track so far?
Also, let me know what you think of the lobby. I have 2 others ready, but I picked this one because it required the least modifications (the others had to be resized up, not too much but caused them to blur ever so slightly)...plus this looks eerily similar to the lobby at the court I've been to, heh.
OK, what do y'all think so far? Here's something to compare. Does it look like we're on the right track so far?
Spoiler: Original version vs. Remake
Also, let me know what you think of the lobby. I have 2 others ready, but I picked this one because it required the least modifications (the others had to be resized up, not too much but caused them to blur ever so slightly)...plus this looks eerily similar to the lobby at the court I've been to, heh.
well...honestly in my opinion i've never liked having real world places with 2-d characters but thats just me. (sigh...if only we could make stuff like the PW TGS Trailer)
But keep keep at it and i hope you succeed :D
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well...honestly in my opinion i've never liked having real world places with 2-d characters but thats just me. (sigh...if only we could make stuff like the PW TGS Trailer)
But keep keep at it and i hope you succeed :D
But keep keep at it and i hope you succeed :D
Heh, thanks :) Looks like you've got some spriting experience *points at the post linked in your sig* Why not help us make some of these character scans from the art book into their own higher-quality sprites? The backgrounds are still something that's up in the air, too, so if you have an idea for those, feel free to contribute something there too. :)
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A.) Take real photo's and put cartoony effects on them somehow
B.) Use the larger images on CR
C.) Draw them up again (last resort)
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Gerkuman wrote:
Little process called Rotoscoping. :)
And how would we go about doing that? (n00b tutorial?) :)
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Gerkuman wrote:
Rotoscoping is just tracing real life stuff.
So if rotoscoping makes a real thing cartoony, I wonder if there's a way to do it in reverse? *stares at pic of Ema with mischievous grin*
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JakeARoonie wrote:
Gerkuman wrote:
Rotoscoping is just tracing real life stuff.
So if rotoscoping makes a real thing cartoony, I wonder if there's a way to do it in reverse? *stares at pic of Ema with mischievous grin*
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