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Author: | SuperAj3 [ Sun Aug 24, 2014 1:12 am ] |
Post subject: | The Dual Destinies Animation Collection! (WITH HOW-TO) |
This thread is dedicated to the animations ripped from Dual Destinies. In order to complete a library of animations, we need your help! Currently the ones made have been from recordings of the iOS version, however if you can record them from the 3DS version, make sure they are consistent with the animations already made for that character. Here is a tutorial on how to make DS styled sprites for those who own the iOS version of Dual Destinies. The method I use is with Photoshop, however if you have other image editing software, this is still doable, but a few workarounds may be needed (Which I will explain.) Spoiler: Tutorial Current Animations: Main Characters: Spoiler: Apollo Justice Spoiler: Trucy Wright Spoiler: Bobby Fulbright Spoiler: Simon Blackquill Spoiler: Miles Edgeworth Case 1: Case 2: Spoiler: Damian Tenma Spoiler: Florent L'Belle Case 3: Spoiler: Hugh O'Connor Case 4: Spoiler: Yuri Cosmos Case 5: DLC: Spoiler: Herman Crab Fan Sprites: Please give credit to the spriters who made these! Main Characters: Spoiler: Phoenix Wright Spoiler: Apollo Justice Spoiler: Athena Cykes Spoiler: Simon Blackquill Spoiler: Miles Edgeworth Case 1: Case 2: Case 3: Case 4: Case 5: DLC: |
Author: | Hesseldahl [ Sun Aug 24, 2014 2:54 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: TUTORIAL: How to make 'sprites' from Dual Destinies iOS |
Mijamaru, I think you should reduce the colors to make it look like a sprite, if I remember correctly, the maximum of colors are 33. |
Author: | SuperAj3 [ Sun Aug 24, 2014 3:22 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: TUTORIAL: How to make 'sprites' from Dual Destinies iOS |
Hesseldahl wrote: Mijamaru, I think you should reduce the colors to make it look like a sprite, if I remember correctly, the maximum of colors are 33. As I recorded video footage, when I tried decreasing colour, it lost some detail and the colours messed up a little. (The recordings lose some of the image's quality), So I left it at 256 and kept it looking DD style. If you want to make them look like they are DS Sprites, then yeah, I know GK has a max of 128 colours, and the original AA went up to 16. I could try experimenting with colours to get a better result, and if it works, I'll update this. I decreased colours to 33 and removed some mouth animations and here's the result: |
Author: | Hesseldahl [ Sun Aug 24, 2014 3:34 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: TUTORIAL: How to make 'sprites' from Dual Destinies iOS |
Mijumaru wrote: Hesseldahl wrote: Mijamaru, I think you should reduce the colors to make it look like a sprite, if I remember correctly, the maximum of colors are 33. As I recorded video footage, when I tried decreasing colour, it lost some detail and the colours messed up a little. (The recordings lose some of the image's quality), So I left it at 256 and kept it looking DD style. If you want to make them look like they are DS Sprites, then yeah, I know GK has a max of 128 colours, and the original AA went up to 16. I could try experimenting with colours to get a better result, and if it works, I'll update this. You know what would be interesing?Apollo Justice sprites with 16 colours or GK too |
Author: | SuperAj3 [ Sun Aug 24, 2014 3:47 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: TUTORIAL: How to make 'sprites' from Dual Destinies iOS |
Oops! I edited my post as you were commenting I made the Trucy animation 33 colours (updated my last post) I guess with some editing it'd look better, but what do you think? |
Author: | Hesseldahl [ Sun Aug 24, 2014 4:04 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: TUTORIAL: How to make 'sprites' from Dual Destinies iOS |
I have a question, can you take the colors of something and replace it ? Actually I think I prefer the original colors |
Author: | TheDoctor [ Sun Aug 24, 2014 5:08 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: TUTORIAL: How to make 'sprites' from Dual Destinies iOS |
I think the issue here is that Photoshop does a terrible job at deciding which colors to keep and where to put them. If one were to manually recolor the sprite, it would likely turn out a lot better provided that person knows what he/she's doing. |
Author: | SuperAj3 [ Sun Aug 24, 2014 11:10 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: TUTORIAL: How to make 'sprites' from Dual Destinies iOS |
TheDoctor wrote: I think the issue here is that Photoshop does a terrible job at deciding which colors to keep and where to put them. If one were to manually recolor the sprite, it would likely turn out a lot better provided that person knows what he/she's doing. Yeah, that's true. I admit, I'm not that good at changing and picking the more appropriate colours, and how to do so, so I'm just sticking to 256 colours for now. Hessehldahl wrote: I have a question, can you take the colors of something and replace it ? Actually I think I prefer the original colors I can, when you save for web in photoshop, you can manually edit the pallette. Do you mean original colours as in Trucy's AJ colours? or the 256 colour version? I made one of Damian Tenma. This time I tried downscaling using "Nearest Neighbor" instead of "Bibulic" as it looks like it came out cleaner this way. |
Author: | mercurialSK [ Tue Aug 26, 2014 6:05 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: TUTORIAL: How to make 'sprites' from Dual Destinies iOS |
This is very cool. It'd definitely help for sure. though it does mean that a lot of the work I've done over the past couple of months suddenly became invalid... I don't think that colour optimisation will be easy with these, though I might have a shot at it when I make some time. What if instead of 32 colours (probably too few) or the full 256 (too high-quality/file size concern imo), there's a "fan DD standard" of some sort - perhaps 64 or 128? Whatever number is just enough colours to still look good when colour reduced automatically but still few enough to look more like a sprite than a model. (Also, some of the poses in DD are actually anatomically incorrect due to model restrictions, such as Apollo's crossed-arms one. It might be worth mentioning that poses like those exist and maybe that they will need additional touchups.) |
Author: | SuperAj3 [ Tue Aug 26, 2014 9:27 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: TUTORIAL: How to make 'sprites' from Dual Destinies iOS |
mercurialSK wrote: This is very cool. It'd definitely help for sure. though it does mean that a lot of the work I've done over the past couple of months suddenly became invalid... I don't think that colour optimisation will be easy with these, though I might have a shot at it when I make some time. What if instead of 32 colours (probably too few) or the full 256 (too high-quality/file size concern imo), there's a "fan DD standard" of some sort - perhaps 64 or 128? Whatever number is just enough colours to still look good when colour reduced automatically but still few enough to look more like a sprite than a model. (Also, some of the poses in DD are actually anatomically incorrect due to model restrictions, such as Apollo's crossed-arms one. It might be worth mentioning that poses like those exist and maybe that they will need additional touchups.) Don't forget Tonate's hands when holding the bomb! (How he can bend his fingers like that I'll never know!) Trust me, custom sprites are a lot better for fan cases in terms of consistency with art style, so your work's not redundant at all! And I was intending on making these for the DD animations in their style. (People didn't downgrade AJ or AAI sprites to use them with PW sprites, so why decrease colours with the DD ones?) These however can be used as bases for spriters to draw over them in the AJ/PW sprite style. If we can get the colour downscaling working, then it'd be much easier to match previous games' sprites style. |
Author: | TheDoctor [ Tue Aug 26, 2014 3:39 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: TUTORIAL: How to make 'sprites' from Dual Destinies iOS |
Exactly, I'd much rather use custom sprites for consistency's sake than the ripped models; however, ripping the models is still useful if you want to make a case with DD only characters or if you want to use them as a base for making AA/AJ styled sprites. And I'll be honest with you, if there's a character I really want to use, I'm going to use that character regardless of whether or not the colors are consistent. For example, I wouldn't have to have custom Professor Layton sprites if I wanted to use him alongside AA characters. |
Author: | Aeolus [ Fri Sep 26, 2014 5:07 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: TUTORIAL: How to make 'sprites' from Dual Destinies iOS |
Well... Can you reupload your photos? I really want to make some sprites from DD (And thanks for inspiration!) |
Author: | SuperAj3 [ Fri Sep 26, 2014 10:47 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: TUTORIAL: How to make 'sprites' from Dual Destinies iOS |
Aeolus wrote: Well... Can you reupload your photos? I really want to make some sprites from DD (And thanks for inspiration!) Re-uploaded the images! |
Author: | SuperAj3 [ Thu Oct 02, 2014 7:00 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: TUTORIAL: How to make 'sprites' from Dual Destinies iOS |
I've made some of Cosmos: If anyone else is willing to make these, please post so here, and I'll make a topic for everyone to post their rips. (Hopefully it'll get stickied so anyone can view it.) |
Author: | SuperAj3 [ Thu Oct 02, 2014 7:00 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: TUTORIAL: How to make 'sprites' from Dual Destinies iOS |
It posted twice... |
Author: | Ropfa [ Mon Oct 13, 2014 7:25 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: TUTORIAL: How to make 'sprites' from Dual Destinies iOS |
So... Is anybody planning to do the sprites for a certain white-suited detective? Just curious. |
Author: | SuperAj3 [ Mon Oct 13, 2014 9:24 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: TUTORIAL: How to make 'sprites' from Dual Destinies iOS |
Ropfa wrote: So... Is anybody planning to do the sprites for a certain white-suited detective? Just curious. I have a feeling I've posted this topic in vain... Although there is interest to do them. With Bobby, If no one's gotten around to making them after I've finished my Athena sprites, I'll start working on these DD animations bit by bit. I'll make sure I do Fulbright first then! |
Author: | mercurialSK [ Tue Oct 14, 2014 3:02 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: TUTORIAL: How to make 'sprites' from Dual Destinies iOS |
Maybe rename the thread? We can make this the "compilation and creation of all DD characters' sprites project" thread or something instead of just a tutorial, and then have the tutorial be there for anyone who wants to help as well. It would make synchronising sprites easier. Although listing sprites may be a bit difficult depending on if artists have any specific permissions. |
Author: | SuperAj3 [ Tue Oct 14, 2014 11:20 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: TUTORIAL: How to make 'sprites' from Dual Destinies iOS |
mercurialSK wrote: Maybe rename the thread? We can make this the "compilation and creation of all DD characters' sprites project" thread or something instead of just a tutorial, and then have the tutorial be there for anyone who wants to help as well. It would make synchronising sprites easier. Although listing sprites may be a bit difficult depending on if artists have any specific permissions. OK. I'll change the thread title . I was initially going to make a separate thread for collecting the animations people had posted here (There's still not enough to begin collecting them, as I've only made 4 and that's it.) but I guess we can organise that if we get more people making these. Seeing as this topic is for essentially ripping the official animations, I think that for these rips, permission shouldn't be needed as these are official animations and not fanmade sprites. Credit, however, is something I think should be given for the hard work of the animators. We could however have a separate thread for fanmade DD Sprites? In which case permission is something that we'd have to take into account. Or would that be too much? |
Author: | mercurialSK [ Thu Oct 16, 2014 10:10 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: The Dual Destinies Animation Collection! (WITH HOW-TO) |
Oh, I thought this one thread would be for both fanmade and rips? I was referring to the fanmade ones in regards to permissions, though anyone who rips should be given optional credit for doing that too I think. Since C-R kind of does that for the media section already, listing the rips with usernames, but people who use them don't necessarily leave credit. Basically something where we can discuss everything DD graphics related in one place instead of kind of scattering it in individual threads and all, if that makes sense. |
Author: | SuperAj3 [ Fri Oct 24, 2014 11:32 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: The Dual Destinies Animation Collection! (WITH HOW-TO) |
Ah OK. I had made this thread as a tutorial for rips only I guess we could add fan sprites as well. Also, I've started on Fulbright: http://imgur.com/a/33zW2 I'll put this album link up top for ease. |
Author: | Yash K. Productions [ Fri Oct 24, 2014 2:21 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: The Dual Destinies Animation Collection! (WITH HOW-TO) |
Lovin' this thread! If anyone can do sprites for Prosecutor Blackquill, that would be awesome. |
Author: | mercurialSK [ Tue Oct 28, 2014 12:28 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: The Dual Destinies Animation Collection! (WITH HOW-TO) |
Mijumaru wrote: Ah OK. I had made this thread as a tutorial for rips only I guess we could add fan sprites as well. Sorry, you don't have to, it was just a suggestion XD I just thought it might be easier. It's not necessary though, a rip thread is ok too. What's kind of troublesome is that only people with the game on an iOS can perform the first few steps, though. |
Author: | SuperAj3 [ Tue Oct 28, 2014 12:39 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: The Dual Destinies Animation Collection! (WITH HOW-TO) |
mercurialSK wrote: Mijumaru wrote: Ah OK. I had made this thread as a tutorial for rips only I guess we could add fan sprites as well. Sorry, you don't have to, it was just a suggestion XD I just thought it might be easier. It's not necessary though, a rip thread is ok too. What's kind of troublesome is that only people with the game on an iOS can perform the first few steps, though. I'm not saying we can't add the fan sprites here, by all means! (where's the means smiley when you need one XD) I'll add a tab to the first post for fan sprites. And if you have a 3DS with a capture card, you can use the software that's related with that to capture footage, or heaps of screenshots. Unfortunately, that costs like, $280 for us Aussies to get done, and that's only for regular 3DS's, so it's not the cheapest option .Thankfully in the iOS version, case 1 is free, so anyone with an iDevice can rip those characters! |
Author: | Volty [ Tue Nov 04, 2014 12:52 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: The Dual Destinies Animation Collection! (WITH HOW-TO) |
If anybody has the full stills of the characters ripped, I'd love to help animate them to help the progress go by faster. I just don't have an iDevice to rip anything myself. |
Author: | wetsver [ Sun Nov 30, 2014 1:34 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: The Dual Destinies Animation Collection! (WITH HOW-TO) |
Is this topic still alive?? I have a question, I thought 3DS' top screen size is 400x240? I've made Blackquill (without the blinking animation and cropped, doesn't have the actual background size) with Trucy Wright (only done with non-movement parts) Tata Blackquill (not sure if I'm redoing):http://psykhelogialove.tumblr.com/post/103193024152 Trucy (1):http://psykhelogialove.tumblr.com/post/103974286217 |
Author: | SuperAj3 [ Sun Nov 30, 2014 10:35 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: The Dual Destinies Animation Collection! (WITH HOW-TO) |
wetsver wrote: Is this topic still alive?? I have a question, I thought 3DS' top screen size is 400x240? I've made Blackquill (without the blinking animation and cropped, doesn't have the actual background size) with Trucy Wright (only done with non-movement parts) Tata Blackquill (not sure if I'm redoing):http://psykhelogialove.tumblr.com/post/103193024152 Trucy (1):http://psykhelogialove.tumblr.com/post/103974286217 The topic's still going, just been on a standstill for a while. Thanks a lot for making these! If you don't mind, can I add these to the first post? The 3DS's screen size is 400x240, but most people are asking for "Sprites" to use in fangames, and fancase makers like AAO and PYWright use the DS dimensions (256x192). |
Author: | wetsver [ Mon Dec 01, 2014 12:58 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: The Dual Destinies Animation Collection! (WITH HOW-TO) |
Mijumaru wrote: The topic's still going, just been on a standstill for a while. Thanks a lot for making these! If you don't mind, can I add these to the first post? The 3DS's screen size is 400x240, but most people are asking for "Sprites" to use in fangames, and fancase makers like AAO and PYWright use the DS dimensions (256x192). Ahh, I see, but these sprites I've made are 400x240 ._. Would you want to resize them before using though? (I have the iOS version on mediafire, link in posts) By the way how do I remove those white bits from saving? It looks fine on photoshop but I don't know why it turns out like that ._. |
Author: | SuperAj3 [ Mon Dec 01, 2014 5:24 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: The Dual Destinies Animation Collection! (WITH HOW-TO) |
wetsver wrote: Mijumaru wrote: The topic's still going, just been on a standstill for a while. Thanks a lot for making these! If you don't mind, can I add these to the first post? The 3DS's screen size is 400x240, but most people are asking for "Sprites" to use in fangames, and fancase makers like AAO and PYWright use the DS dimensions (256x192). Ahh, I see, but these sprites I've made are 400x240 ._. Would you want to resize them before using though? (I have the iOS version on mediafire, link in posts) By the way how do I remove those white bits from saving? It looks fine on photoshop but I don't know why it turns out like that ._. With removing the white around the edges, make a layer with a dark colour behind all the frames, and use the magic select tool (with contiguous unchecked to make it a bit faster) to select all the outer white parts (or just the standard select tool) and manually delete them. I had this problem too. When you resize, unless you're using "Nearest Neighbor", it causes a bit of fuzz around it to smoothen the image. This turns into full-coloured pixels when you make them into a .gif. |
Author: | wetsver [ Mon Dec 01, 2014 6:25 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: The Dual Destinies Animation Collection! (WITH HOW-TO) |
Mijumaru wrote: If you want to, sure! This way it's all consistent with what's already been made. With removing the white around the edges, make a layer with a dark colour behind all the frames, and use the magic select tool (with contiguous unchecked to make it a bit faster) to select all the outer white parts (or just the standard select tool) and manually delete them. I had this problem too. When you resize, unless you're using "Nearest Neighbor", it causes a bit of fuzz around it to smoothen the image. This turns into full-coloured pixels when you make them into a .gif. I've fixed Trucy's with nearest neighbour. By the way, this is a bonus: I've made this quite a while but I was planning to put it together with the set that she has movements with (it's 1mb ._.) Others: http://imgur.com/a/wpkak |
Author: | wetsver [ Mon Dec 01, 2014 3:36 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: The Dual Destinies Animation Collection! (WITH HOW-TO) |
By the way, Mac users can record their gameplay with just using Quicktime. I think this is only applicable for Yosemite x iOS8. 1. Connect the iDevice with iOS8 to the Mac running Yosemite with the lightning cable (USB cable). 2. Open Quicktime. Click on File > New Movie Recording. 3. Beside the recording button, click the down arrow and choose your iPad as the Camera to record and the microphone to record from. 4. Click on the record button only from the point of the scene you want to record from. The New Movie Recording screen disappears after stopping the recording, so repeat steps 2-4. I think that resizing the Quicktime screen affects the original resolution of the game (I occurred this problem while importing sprites) so leave it as it is. |
Author: | SuperAj3 [ Mon Dec 01, 2014 10:39 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: The Dual Destinies Animation Collection! (WITH HOW-TO) |
Oh cool! I'll add that how-to to the main post as well. (I'm still on iOS7 and Mavericks, my Mac can't update any further ) wetsver wrote: I've fixed Trucy's with nearest neighbour. By the way, this is a bonus: I've made this quite a while but I was planning to put it together with the set that she has movements with (it's 1mb ._.) Others: http://imgur.com/a/wpkak Thanks a bunch! added to the first post! |
Author: | wetsver [ Tue Dec 02, 2014 1:02 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: The Dual Destinies Animation Collection! (WITH HOW-TO) |
Mijumaru wrote: Oh cool! I'll add that how-to to the main post as well. (I'm still on iOS7 and Mavericks, my Mac can't update any further ) Well you could try... and see if it works? I don't have any old Macs to test though |
Author: | wetsver [ Tue Dec 02, 2014 8:06 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: The Dual Destinies Animation Collection! (WITH HOW-TO) |
Hmm.. Did a cleanup for the first sprite (3DS size) and this was the result (not that perfect though): I don't mind if anyone wants to help me clean them!! (for 3DS). For DS I can resize it with bicubic before sending in. I've gotten requests for Blackquill (In court), Edgeworth, Athena and Fulbright as well, will try to finish them and post it. |
Author: | SuperAj3 [ Tue Dec 02, 2014 9:29 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: The Dual Destinies Animation Collection! (WITH HOW-TO) |
wetsver wrote: Hmm.. Did a cleanup for the first sprite (3DS size) and this was the result (not that perfect though): I don't mind if anyone wants to help me clean them!! (for 3DS). For DS I can resize it with bicubic before sending in. I've gotten requests for Blackquill (In court), Edgeworth, Athena and Fulbright as well, will try to finish them and post it. Thanks! I think the current Trucy ones are good as they are, They're clean around the edges. I'm currently doing Fulbright on request by someone on AAO, so you can leave that one to me (I've recorded each frame, I just have to get to making them. ) |
Author: | wetsver [ Tue Dec 02, 2014 9:35 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: The Dual Destinies Animation Collection! (WITH HOW-TO) |
Mijumaru wrote: Thanks! I think the current Trucy ones are good as they are, They're clean around the edges. I'm currently doing Fulbright on request by someone on AAO, so you can leave that one to me (I've recorded each frame, I just have to get to making them. ) Hmm but as I reduced with Nearest Neighbour I find that some of the pixels on the face/body look... weird? But I guess it should be okay since it's for DS-sized games |
Author: | SuperAj3 [ Tue Dec 02, 2014 11:39 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: The Dual Destinies Animation Collection! (WITH HOW-TO) |
wetsver wrote: Mijumaru wrote: Thanks! I think the current Trucy ones are good as they are, They're clean around the edges. I'm currently doing Fulbright on request by someone on AAO, so you can leave that one to me (I've recorded each frame, I just have to get to making them. ) Hmm but as I reduced with Nearest Neighbour I find that some of the pixels on the face/body look... weird? But I guess it should be okay since it's for DS-sized games Yeah, it's because it's not smoothing out the features as you resize. I you want, you could always re-do them, and match the way I did my one. I used Bibulic (I think), and then cleaned up the outlines, and drew them in with the pencil tool. But it's a lot of hassle, so it's up to you! |
Author: | Volty [ Sat Dec 06, 2014 5:16 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: The Dual Destinies Animation Collection! (WITH HOW-TO) |
Heeeeeey lemme help with animating these. We could totally get these all out faster if multiple people were animating the frames you've ripped or whatever. |
Author: | SuperAj3 [ Sat Dec 06, 2014 11:11 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: The Dual Destinies Animation Collection! (WITH HOW-TO) |
Volty wrote: Heeeeeey lemme help with animating these. We could totally get these all out faster if multiple people were animating the frames you've ripped or whatever. Reckon 'course ya can! Have any characters you'd want to rip? I have recordings currently of Damian Tenma and Yuri Cosmos' animations, I could upload one of those recording and send it to you? (Not sure what the best method is, but I guess if you can download from YouTube, I could upload there.) |
Author: | Volty [ Sun Dec 07, 2014 7:21 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: The Dual Destinies Animation Collection! (WITH HOW-TO) |
Mijumaru wrote: Volty wrote: Heeeeeey lemme help with animating these. We could totally get these all out faster if multiple people were animating the frames you've ripped or whatever. Reckon 'course ya can! Have any characters you'd want to rip? I have recordings currently of Damian Tenma and Yuri Cosmos' animations, I could upload one of those recording and send it to you? (Not sure what the best method is, but I guess if you can download from YouTube, I could upload there.) I don't really have a preference of characters (aside from Fulbright, but I hear you're already on the case with that one.) So I guess you can just send me whatever you're NOT working on. Are you just gonna upload the raw files somewhere and send them to me? Like, you could either PM me here or on YouTube, whatever you prefer. OH. And also, how would you feel about these DD sprites being animated in the "Classic" Ace Attorney style? Like, the 3-frame talking style? I feel like that could be very beneficial to the community and stuff, as well. |
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