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Ouch! That stung, and surprisingly your story nearly made me tear up again. (When did I become such a softie?)

Edit: Personally I thought that was both wrong and right.



Ummmm, I'm sorry, I guess. I'm used to other kinds of reactions after telling this story. And please, do share your opinion, I'm not gonna bite your head off or anything.


Oh thank you! Well, usually I would try to be the bigger person and say revenge is the wrong choice and when you do it you'll end up hitting yourself with recoil. But what's done is done, might as well not regret it too long, perhaps they deserved that.


Got it. Well, I didn't get any kind of revenge per se (though at the time I would've loved to). The reason we don't talk to each other is that a) I don't forgive treason in any kind of form; and b) He thinks he's right and I think I'm right. Best to not talk to each other than bump heads all the time for no reason.
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Oh there's an actual thread for this topic. Well I've got melodramatic moans and groans in the Singles thread so I'll dig them up later.
As for VCM, I feel like you are a bit in the wrong. You broke up with this girl, but still had feelings for her for whatever reason right? Then you did the drunk text thing which is NEVER a good idea. Yeah your friend was a dick for not telling you about his feelings for this broad, but why did you have to get so jealous when you already had a relationship and it didn't really work out? Plus she had also refused your wanting to get back together.

Your friend IS an asshole for not letting you know and stuff, but you also got too jealous and even sought revenge. I don't like revenge unless it's good revenge.

Disclaimer: I don't believe in couples getting back together. If you broke up for a specific reason, why would work again? I also don't believe in maintaining friendships/relations with exes. Maybe it's cause I knew a kid in high school who had a harem and dated everyone like tissues. Miraculously he stayed friends with every single one of them after breaking up with them. He was pretty popular in marching band, but I hated his guts. His popularity and fickleness with women disgusted me.
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Oh there's an actual thread for this topic. Well I've got melodramatic moans and groans in the Singles thread so I'll dig them up later.
As for VCM, I feel like you are a bit in the wrong. You broke up with this girl, but still had feelings for her for whatever reason right? Then you did the drunk text thing which is NEVER a good idea. Yeah your friend was a dick for not telling you about his feelings for this broad, but why did you have to get so jealous when you already had a relationship and it didn't really work out? Plus she had also refused your wanting to get back together.

Your friend IS an asshole for not letting you know and stuff, but you also got too jealous and even sought revenge. I don't like revenge unless it's good revenge.

Disclaimer: I don't believe in couples getting back together. If you broke up for a specific reason, why would work again? I also don't believe in maintaining friendships/relations with exes. Maybe it's cause I knew a kid in high school who had a harem and dated everyone like tissues. Miraculously he stayed friends with every single one of them after breaking up with them. He was pretty popular in marching band, but I hated his guts. His popularity and fickleness with women disgusted me.


Well I don't believe in it either, but I was drunk. Thank God I stopped drinking.

Also, he had no feelings for her, they just fooled around that one time. What got to me is that when I asked him discreetly about her he always got instantly defensive and said he'd --never-- kiss her because of me and how he'd never betray a brother and blah blah blah. I could care less if it was some broad I just had a one night stand with or that girl - the love factor just added fuel to the fire. If he just came clean with me and told me he had actually betrayed his words, I'd be pretty pissed off, yeah, but I'd forgive him. But no, he hid it all away. If it wasn't for that slip-up, who knows how long I'd be kept in the dark?
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Oh so it's the whole defensive facade he put on that pissed you off. That I can understand. Everything else I said is still apt. Cool. Good talk.
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Oh so it's the whole defensive facade he put on that pissed you off. That I can understand. Everything else I said is still apt. Cool. Good talk.


Yeah, pretty much. I guess it can be said that I shouldn't be so aggressive towards him but it's just who I am, this kind of stuff just get into my nerves like you wouldn't believe.

He, being the lovable jerk (the "I openly say to everyone I'm such a beautiful and cool guy and that girls should be treated like shit because I was bullied in 6th grade and this is the way I deal with it" kind) he is, did many bad things in the time we spent together, but I always turned a blind eye and ignored my spite. Guess all that bottling up came together when I confronted him too.
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Even before that, she went from really cool to a real jerk. She and her group of fiends tossed my stuffed animals across the campus, tried to tie me to a tree with my scarf, and she had a huge ego which was unexpected seeing how she's a bright person.


What does ego have to do with being a bright person?
Do you mean bright as in intelligent or bright as in a happy, cheerful disposition?
Also, that sounds more like harrassing, rather than playful teasing or something. You seriously called someone like that your friend?

And VCM, reading that stuff makes me think, "Ah, typical. Well fuck it."
Seriously, I would think just like you - the guy is now a total dickweed and the girl is a bitch. Although I guess this whole thing is another one of those "No communication" things. Had he admitted he liked the girl somewhat - or, as you said, admitted he had hooked up with her - you would've been cool with it. Might have gotten angry, but gotten over it faster. Just the hiding away....
Yeah, communication is important. The longer you hide it, the worse the blow up.

I don't think I ever lost any friends due to some of the reasons posted here.
I didn't have many friends when I was in Gymnasium (5th and 6th Grade) until I left the school, went to the hospital (this was when the memory repressing/forgetting started) and then switched to Hauptschule (5th and 6th Grade) to repeat a year, because I was put into school a year early.
There, I had one friend - but she was a bridge-friend.
You know, the kind that you have for a while and then you go onto the next part of your life and forget all about. That happened when I switched to Realschule (7th till 10th Grade) and graduated from there. Had two, three, maybe four friends in that school and after graduation, again, I kind of lost contact with them.
Sometimes one of the guys still tries to get things going, but not very often.

Basically, yeah.
I meet people, I might get friendly aquainted with them, but then I just get to the next bit of my life and the contact practically breaks off. Mostly because I don't see much in hanging out with them or just am too busy.

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Yes, I called someone like that a friend. It's not like I had anywhere else to eat for lunch, she wouldn't just let me eat alone isolated in the hallway.

And a majority of my other friends were a year older than me, they were nicer and more wise, but I was too afraid to eat lunch with them because one of the guys in the group I had history with. He would would follow me home and start cuddling me or kissing me or he would drag me to his home and we would cuddle and kiss and at one point we both nearly fell asleep on his bed. (Disclaimer: I still got my virginity, don't worry.)

So now you're probably wondering, "What's the big deal? He liked you, you liked him..." He didn't want me to mention it to his friends just to protect his image. Back then he just thought I was attractive and he liked someone else...Wait, two someones, one of them was that "friend" I mentioned.
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Yes, I called someone like that a friend. It's not like I had anywhere else to eat for lunch, she wouldn't just let me eat alone isolated in the hallway.

And a majority of my other friends were a year older than me, they were nicer and more wise, but I was too afraid to eat lunch with them because one of the guys in the group I had history with. He would would follow me home and start cuddling me or kissing me or he would drag me to his home and we would cuddle and kiss and at one point we both nearly fell asleep on his bed. (Disclaimer: I still got my virginity, don't worry.)

So now you're probably wondering, "What's the big deal? He liked you, you liked him..." He didn't want me to mention it to his friends just to protect his image. Back then he just thought I was attractive and he liked someone else...Wait, two someones, one of them was that "friend" I mentioned.



Wow. You're surrounded by jerks. You really don't deserve this.


And yes Cat, it's just like that. Glad to know I'm not as crazy as my friends suggest I am (probably 'cause the guy is the most popular in my circle while I'm the "cool guy but has anger issues". Makes it harder to believe my story)
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Just tell me if I'm wrong or not:

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Background:
I had this friend who lived in my building since we were both kids, and we were very close friends up until I was 14 or 15 and he had to move. We didn't keep much in touch, but I still saw him as a friend. Eventually I threw a small party for my 19th birthday and invited him, and then we became close again: I invited him to the soccer team I had with my friends, included him in my social group, and so on and so forth.

A year later, in my 20th party, there was this girl who I had been with for some time and then broke up; I was a little drunk and texted her (that stupid "drunk ex" texting stuff you see all the time on shows and such). My friend knew that girl, and he was all the time like "hey, chat me on facebook, gotta tell you something" (yep. he's that "abercrombie jock" kind of guy.) with her, but I never suspected anything. Anyway, he saw me texting her and told me I was in love with her and stuff.

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Well, the girl said "no" to me, naturally. During the time I spent trying to get over her, their little "chats" kept coming to mind, but I shrugged them off because I hate jealousy. After a few months, I finally overcame the whole issue and was living normally.

A few weeks later, another friend of mine (who never knew I knew that girl) comes and tells me that my friend and that girl hooked up. I didn't care at first, but then I did the math and, according to what he told me, they hooked up during the period in which I was still down because I loved her.

And the sick bastard kept telling me how he'd "never step on a brother's toes" or anything.

Now, I didn't waste any time in telling the motherfucker off, we almost got physical, and nowadays we don't even say hi to each other (I sure as hell won't forgive this kind of lying treason). Thing is, all my friends keep saying I got the timeline wrong, that he never did anything wrong and I'm blinded by jealousy and rage and whatever.

However, according to the info I have, I am very much right in not getting near that bastard. And that bitch too.



So. Am I really so wrong about the whole issue?


For that girl it feels like misleading anger to me. Things are over, she doesn't have to give you a report on her life or the next person she would be dating.

Timeline right or not, your ex-friend was in the wrong. He should have been more understanding of your feelings and at least told you that he was going for her.

That drunk texting wasn't a very smart move though.
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Yes, I called someone like that a friend. It's not like I had anywhere else to eat for lunch, she wouldn't just let me eat alone isolated in the hallway.

And a majority of my other friends were a year older than me, they were nicer and more wise, but I was too afraid to eat lunch with them because one of the guys in the group I had history with. He would would follow me home and start cuddling me or kissing me or he would drag me to his home and we would cuddle and kiss and at one point we both nearly fell asleep on his bed. (Disclaimer: I still got my virginity, don't worry.)

So now you're probably wondering, "What's the big deal? He liked you, you liked him..." He didn't want me to mention it to his friends just to protect his image. Back then he just thought I was attractive and he liked someone else...Wait, two someones, one of them was that "friend" I mentioned.



Wow. You're surrounded by jerks. You really don't deserve this.


And yes Cat, it's just like that. Glad to know I'm not as crazy as my friends suggest I am (probably 'cause the guy is the most popular in my circle while I'm the "cool guy but has anger issues". Makes it harder to believe my story)


I don't think you're crazy you just had an off day, so to speak.
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As for me I guess I have too many to count, since I often switched schools or homes but all ended the same.

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It only takes you to move out of their face for a while to be treated like a complete stranger or an embarrassing memory you'd rather toss in the trash when you make the mistake to return to check on them because you still cared about that friendship long ago. I wasn't allowed to use a computer when I was little but still foolishly thought that friendship could last even if you moved far away, I've sent letters but never received them so I eventually stopped but my innocent mind wanted to believe that they were only very busy with life so they couldn't respond, how stupid I was.


I trust internet friendship more than friendships outside the internet, to hell with it. At least if you move it won't change anything. There is maybe a small group of 4 people who didn't fit that description though and one of them is still my best friend up to this point. I do use the internet now so sometimes I do have my doubts...

Edit: Maybe I should have chosen my words more carefully when I mean to hell with it, I mean in the area I currently live in. If an internet friendship is successful then it means you can still make friends outside the internet because you've made a friend with a living being behind a screen, you're just having no luck where you live at the moment.

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As for me I guess I have too many to count, since I often switched schools or homes but all ended the same.

Spoiler:
It only takes you to move out of their face for a while to be treated like a complete stranger or an embarrassing memory you'd rather toss in the trash when you make the mistake to return to check on them because you still cared about that friendship long ago. I wasn't allowed to use a computer when I was little but still foolishly thought that friendship could last even if you moved far away, I've sent letters but never received them so I eventually stopped but my innocent mind wanted to believe that they were only very busy with life so they couldn't respond, how stupid I was.


I trust internet friendship more than friendships outside the internet, to hell with it. At least if you move it won't change anything. There is maybe a small group of 4 people who didn't fit that description though and one of them is still my best friend up to this point. I do use the internet now so sometimes I do have my doubts...



I was going to say you shouldn't rely so heavily on internet friendships, but I understand your reasons. It's very traumatic to be ignored by friends just because you don't see each other face-to-face anymore.

I've had friends do that to me, but luckily one of my best friends moved and still kept contact with me (and we talk pretty much every single day), so it depends on the person's nature and how much they actually liked you, I'd say.
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VCM wrote:
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As for me I guess I have too many to count, since I often switched schools or homes but all ended the same.

Spoiler:
It only takes you to move out of their face for a while to be treated like a complete stranger or an embarrassing memory you'd rather toss in the trash when you make the mistake to return to check on them because you still cared about that friendship long ago. I wasn't allowed to use a computer when I was little but still foolishly thought that friendship could last even if you moved far away, I've sent letters but never received them so I eventually stopped but my innocent mind wanted to believe that they were only very busy with life so they couldn't respond, how stupid I was.


I trust internet friendship more than friendships outside the internet, to hell with it. At least if you move it won't change anything. There is maybe a small group of 4 people who didn't fit that description though and one of them is still my best friend up to this point. I do use the internet now so sometimes I do have my doubts...



I was going to say you shouldn't rely so heavily on internet friendships, but I understand your reasons. It's very traumatic to be ignored by friends just because you don't see each other face-to-face anymore.

I've had friends do that to me, but luckily one of my best friends moved and still kept contact with me (and we talk pretty much every single day), so it depends on the person's nature and how much they actually liked you, I'd say.


I moved a lot as well, so I don't have a choice. My grandparents suggest I open my heart to new people but I'm so tired of starting relationships and getting too close to only have my heart shatter in pieces because I was forced to say goodbye or forced to forget.

Another reason I don't believe in any kind of love.
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VCM wrote:
I was going to say you shouldn't rely so heavily on internet friendships, but I understand your reasons. It's very traumatic to be ignored by friends just because you don't see each other face-to-face anymore.

I've had friends do that to me, but luckily one of my best friends moved and still kept contact with me (and we talk pretty much every single day), so it depends on the person's nature and how much they actually liked you, I'd say.


I'm not heavily relying on it, I actually only have a few friends that I trust since the internet can be full of well, if I can say...stranger people... True that sometimes people on the internet leave and don't show a sign of life only to come back and act like strangers. It's mostly the "I can move and come back without that previous outside life experience drama" factor that makes me think it can have better chances.
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Yes, I called someone like that a friend. It's not like I had anywhere else to eat for lunch, she wouldn't just let me eat alone isolated in the hallway.

And a majority of my other friends were a year older than me, they were nicer and more wise, but I was too afraid to eat lunch with them because one of the guys in the group I had history with. He would would follow me home and start cuddling me or kissing me or he would drag me to his home and we would cuddle and kiss and at one point we both nearly fell asleep on his bed. (Disclaimer: I still got my virginity, don't worry.)

So now you're probably wondering, "What's the big deal? He liked you, you liked him..." He didn't want me to mention it to his friends just to protect his image. Back then he just thought I was attractive and he liked someone else...Wait, two someones, one of them was that "friend" I mentioned.


I never understood that whole "someone to eat with" thing.... then again, German schools don't really have the kind of cafeteria as shown in American high schools were, apparently, if you eat outside of the cafeteria, you're a freak. Or a rebel, if you're lucky.

Ditto with the image.
I mean, he's a guy, wouldn't he want to look cool in front of his pals by saying, "Yeah, I took Emiko to my house yesterday. Awwwwriiiiight~" and high five everyone? By the way, dragging you to his home? Doesn't matter if you like him, if he has to practically drag you to his home, you have every right to hit him or call the cops. If it requires any kind of force, it's wrong.

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Yes, I called someone like that a friend. It's not like I had anywhere else to eat for lunch, she wouldn't just let me eat alone isolated in the hallway.

And a majority of my other friends were a year older than me, they were nicer and more wise, but I was too afraid to eat lunch with them because one of the guys in the group I had history with. He would would follow me home and start cuddling me or kissing me or he would drag me to his home and we would cuddle and kiss and at one point we both nearly fell asleep on his bed. (Disclaimer: I still got my virginity, don't worry.)

So now you're probably wondering, "What's the big deal? He liked you, you liked him..." He didn't want me to mention it to his friends just to protect his image. Back then he just thought I was attractive and he liked someone else...Wait, two someones, one of them was that "friend" I mentioned.


I never understood that whole "someone to eat with" thing.... then again, German schools don't really have the kind of cafeteria as shown in American high schools were, apparently, if you eat outside of the cafeteria, you're a freak. Or a rebel, if you're lucky.

Ditto with the image.
I mean, he's a guy, wouldn't he want to look cool in front of his pals by saying, "Yeah, I took Emiko to my house yesterday. Awwwwriiiiight~" and high five everyone? By the way, dragging you to his home? Doesn't matter if you like him, if he has to practically drag you to his home, you have every right to hit him or call the cops. If it requires any kind of force, it's wrong.

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There was no cafeteria at that school thank God! Don't like em. And if I sat alone people would probably assume that I'm lonely.

*giggles* If he wasn't protecting his image things would probably be different for us. ^^; And I guess I overexagerated the "drag" part, but it did feel like it when he got all aroused around me.
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Yes, I called someone like that a friend. It's not like I had anywhere else to eat for lunch, she wouldn't just let me eat alone isolated in the hallway.

And a majority of my other friends were a year older than me, they were nicer and more wise, but I was too afraid to eat lunch with them because one of the guys in the group I had history with. He would would follow me home and start cuddling me or kissing me or he would drag me to his home and we would cuddle and kiss and at one point we both nearly fell asleep on his bed. (Disclaimer: I still got my virginity, don't worry.)

So now you're probably wondering, "What's the big deal? He liked you, you liked him..." He didn't want me to mention it to his friends just to protect his image. Back then he just thought I was attractive and he liked someone else...Wait, two someones, one of them was that "friend" I mentioned.


I never understood that whole "someone to eat with" thing.... then again, German schools don't really have the kind of cafeteria as shown in American high schools were, apparently, if you eat outside of the cafeteria, you're a freak. Or a rebel, if you're lucky.

Ditto with the image.
I mean, he's a guy, wouldn't he want to look cool in front of his pals by saying, "Yeah, I took Emiko to my house yesterday. Awwwwriiiiight~" and high five everyone? By the way, dragging you to his home? Doesn't matter if you like him, if he has to practically drag you to his home, you have every right to hit him or call the cops. If it requires any kind of force, it's wrong.

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There was no cafeteria at that school thank God! Don't like em. And if I sat alone people would probably assume that I'm lonely.

*giggles* If he wasn't protecting his image things would probably be different for us. ^^; And I guess I overexagerated the "drag" part, but it did feel like it when he got all aroused around me.




Oh, now I got it. I was gonna repeat what Cat said about calling the cops, but if he didn't harm you (well, in a sense) then it's less grave than I thought.
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We used to have friendly wrestling. But mostly all pain was emotional.

Well one time he got upset with me and started cyber slapping me, but even if it did happen in real life I still believe that women being allowed to hit men and men not being allowed to hit women is a double standard.
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Boy, this thread sure is grim. Seeing stuff like "I trust only Internet relationships" makes me sad. Sure the relationships in reality don't always go as planned due to mistakes and there ARE some bad apples in the crop, but we're all more or less human. If life was all about smiles and no heartbreak, then I've been living incorrectly. My friendships that have fallen out during the years hurt, but do I wish that they never happened? Nope. They've more or less made me the person who I am today, and had they not occurred then I'd probably be making the same mistakes I did in the past today. I don't mind being someone to lean on over the Internet, but you guys shouldn't completely write off relationships in the real world.

Otherwise, you're going to hear my rant on how I've given up on humanity. You don't want to hear my rant on humanity. I don't even want to talk about my rant. I don't even have one. What was I talking about again?
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Boy, this thread sure is grim. Seeing stuff like "I trust only Internet relationships" makes me sad. Sure the relationships in reality don't always go as planned due to mistakes and there ARE some bad apples in the crop, but we're all more or less human. If life was all about smiles and no heartbreak, then I've been living incorrectly. My friendships that have fallen out during the years hurt, but do I wish that they never happened? Nope. They've more or less made me the person who I am today, and had they not occurred then I'd probably be making the same mistakes I did in the past today. I don't mind being someone to lean on over the Internet, but you guys shouldn't completely write off relationships in the real world.

Otherwise, you're going to hear my rant on how I've given up on humanity. You don't want to hear my rant on humanity. I don't even want to talk about my rant. I don't even have one. What was I talking about again?
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Blak, I agree with everything you said. But still, it would be nice if someone i cared about and vice versa could come into my life and stay by my side. I know family is always with you but truth is, I'm not close to my family nor am I am family person. WAY to many bad memories revolving around B/S.

But apparently I'm forced to be Xena warrior princess who is a loner but has gained strength because of it.
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Hate to break it to some folks, but internet friends have just as much chance of hurting you as real life friends do.

You just have to be careful in either world, is all. Don't close yourself off completely, and understand that sometimes good friends can come from some unexpected places. For example, I went to dance class wanting to learn a type of dance. I didn't go for the socializing, but I ended up making some friends anyway.
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Adrian in black wrote:
Hate to break it to some folks, but internet friends have just as much chance of hurting you as real life friends do.

You just have to be careful in either world, is all. Don't close yourself off completely, and understand that sometimes good friends can come from some unexpected places. For example, I went to dance class wanting to learn a type of dance. I didn't go for the socializing, but I ended up making some friends anyway.


Hey Adrian, where do you live? Can I come over? I'd like to get to know you more intimately. What's that? Someone's at my door.
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Blak The Great wrote:
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"The content of this website is not available in your area."




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VCM wrote:
Blak The Great wrote:
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"The content of this website is not available in your area."




running away scared


You can't run away. He always finds you!
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Oh wow, I was imagining something freakier, but


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Friendship is a very important part of my life to the point I consider some of my closest friends as family. I know this may sound like emotional bullshit, but it's true - there's at least three people who I've known for a long time and I share many secrets, hardships and funny moments with them. While I'm a sociable person who can easily get along with most of the people out there (I have endlessly colleagues and chit-chat buddies), I have VERY HIGH standards for the people I choose as my closest and reliable friends - I can't share a healthy friendship with someone who I don't find intelligent, realistic, emotionally strong and idealist (and, of course, with some interests in common). That being said, I rarely cut important people out of my life because I have a solid relationship with them and they're somewhat similar with me in the way they approach and deal with disagreements and problems.

As for the chit-chat buddies and acquaintances... I'm constantly discarding and pushing many of them away. I'm very critical and sometimes one single shitty opinion can change my whole mind about someone.
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