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I hope you aren't saying that I'm (just) an average player...
I dislike this whole idea of casual, average or hardcore players. What actually makes them call themselves that? A certain amount of time spent playing games? Or how much attention to pay to a game, learn all the things about it? That's dumb.
I dislike this whole idea of casual, average or hardcore players. What actually makes them call themselves that? A certain amount of time spent playing games? Or how much attention to pay to a game, learn all the things about it? That's dumb.
By average player, I mean someone who hardly looks in to the development of the game or pays no attention to anything else other than what's presented. For example, when I'm playing a game; I usually know about the people involved, what went on during development, etc. because I actually decided to do the research and learn more. Most of the people I know don't care about that kind of thing and only play crap like Call of Duty or Madden.
And I don't like the whole stigma attached to "casual" players and "hardcore" players. Video gaming is a hobby, and a hobby is something you do CASUALLY in your spare time. However, I use the term "average" gamer because there are some people who take it more seriously or care more than other people. These guys would be called the "serious" gamers and everyone else the "average" players. It has nothing to do with what KIND of games you play, but how much you're invested and if you truly care.
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Most of the people I know don't care about that kind of thing and only play crap like Call of Duty or Madden.
Or FIFA
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VCM wrote:
TopHatProfessor1014 wrote:
Most of the people I know don't care about that kind of thing and only play crap like Call of Duty or Madden.
Or FIFA
Yeah, I know. Just like the Transformers films, it's pretty sad to see what appeals to the larger audiences these days.
The same can go for movies. If you're the "average" film watcher, you probably only see the newest releases and do little to no research on the making of the film. If you're a "serious" film watcher like me, you probably see all kinds of films and research how they got made, look in-depth at the cinematography, listen to the soundtrack, analysis the in-depth themes (if they're are any), etc.
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Seriously why can't we just like what we like without getting labeled?
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Oh gods...There's labels for movie watchers too? D:
Seriously why can't we just like what we like without getting labeled?
Seriously why can't we just like what we like without getting labeled?
Crap like Call of Duty, Transformers, Madden etc. are the lowest forms of entertainment out there. While they might have started off decently, all of these series appeal to the lowest common denomination. Simply put, audiences eat this garbage up with EVERY release. Why do you think they still make these things if they're bad? Because they sell. That's all there is to it.
For example, look at McDonalds. Does anyone ACTUALLY like that food? Of course not. But it's inexpensive, it sells, and it gives people a cheap satisfaction before they leave and eventually come back for more. The same goes for all the other games and films that I've mentioned. Well, except for the inexpensive part. These things are bloody expensive, but people buy them anyways. That only further proves my point.
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I'm just a gamer. :3 My gender, how long/much I play, and what games I play mean nothing.
There, everyone's happy.
There, everyone's happy.
Oh my God, that's even worse.
Being a girl and even 'trying' to call yourself a Hardcore Gamer.
I don't know why people think that girls cannot be 'hardcore' gamers or are, in general, not that good at games. I have seen tournaments of Dead or Alive being done and there were some girls there, some were really good at that game. (I say some, because majority of what I saw was them 'turtling' until they opened a can of whoop ass onto their opponent) I don't play all kinds of genres, I do have my preferences - I prefer RPGs to FPS games because I can get invested more, it interests me more to have a story to follow rather than just "Shoot everything in sight! Why? Cause you're badass, that's why!"
Especially bad if you are a girl gamer who does not have an overbite, braces, thick glasses and bad hair hygiene, always tied up into an untidy ponytail and wear raggey clothes. If you actually look pretty hot in the general way of the term, people will still not take the girl gamer seriously.
Because people can't be hot and good at something that has nothing to do with appearances.
Funny thing is, until I had my braces removed last December, I did have those listed things. Well my glasses aren't super thick, but I do wear glasses (according to my husband, I'm hot, though)... and I mostly wear raggey clothes because they are comfortable to lie in. I can't see a gamer, whether male or female, sitting for hours on end playing a videogame in their best, tight, leatherpants with studs on them or something.
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Emiko Nabile Gale wrote:
I'm just a gamer. :3 My gender, how long/much I play, and what games I play mean nothing.
There, everyone's happy.
There, everyone's happy.
Oh my God, that's even worse.
Being a girl and even 'trying' to call yourself a Hardcore Gamer.
I don't know why people think that girls cannot be 'hardcore' gamers or are, in general, not that good at games. I have seen tournaments of Dead or Alive being done and there were some girls there, some were really good at that game. (I say some, because majority of what I saw was them 'turtling' until they opened a can of whoop ass onto their opponent) I don't play all kinds of genres, I do have my preferences - I prefer RPGs to FPS games because I can get invested more, it interests me more to have a story to follow rather than just "Shoot everything in sight! Why? Cause you're badass, that's why!"
Especially bad if you are a girl gamer who does not have an overbite, braces, thick glasses and bad hair hygiene, always tied up into an untidy ponytail and wear raggey clothes. If you actually look pretty hot in the general way of the term, people will still not take the girl gamer seriously.
Because people can't be hot and good at something that has nothing to do with appearances.
Funny thing is, until I had my braces removed last December, I did have those listed things. Well my glasses aren't super thick, but I do wear glasses (according to my husband, I'm hot, though)... and I mostly wear raggey clothes because they are comfortable to lie in. I can't see a gamer, whether male or female, sitting for hours on end playing a videogame in their best, tight, leatherpants with studs on them or something.
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Like I said before, there really is no such thing as a "hardcore" or "casual" gamer. Just someone who's either serious or average when it comes to the video games industry.
I honestly think that anyone can be good at games regardless of gender. Do we really have to live in a world where people view males as better suited to manipulating digital pieces of programming than females?
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This topic has been steered towards a very dark direction
It's a vent station, what do you expect~?
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Right now, I try to distance myself from both titles. "Hardcore gamer" reminds me too much of the self-proclaimed "True Americans" I've come across elsewhere; unwilling to accept that some of their fellow gamers disagree with them, they consider themselves part of a special class of gamers whose views are more important than those of anyone they disagree with. At the same time, "casual gamer" implies to me the idea of someone who doesn't really have any interest in the series as a whole or staying true to what made the series great in the first place.
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They are blatanly ignoring my opinion and practically making fun of anything I post.
They say they are not trolls. They say they have legitimate complaints about the game. And that's fine and dandy. Some of the flaws they point out, I absolutely agree with. I even point out flaws that they don't notice. There are even some flaws that I do not agree with, generally saying that they are simply exaggerating those flaws and making them seem bigger than they are.
Really, am I the only Skyward player who didn't pay that much attention once I learned that the "You picked up this Treasure/Bug!" message appears every time I load the game anew? They say it's severely distracting and it probably is to them, but I personally never let it bother me so much...
What is irking me about them, though, is that they are acting as if their opinion is the only one that counts. They act as if their opinion is the only one that really matters, because their opinion on this game counts for the whole Zelda fanbase. And anbody who disagrees with them is a stupid Nintendo Fanboy who "gobbles up all the half-assed shit they throw at them".
They can keep their opinion.
I don't have to like it, accept it or even understand it.
All I have to do is acknowledge that they have one, whether it differs from mine or we actually agree on something.
And that's just fine, that's what I do.
But why can they not accept that I have my own opinion - as well as some other posters on that board who actually enjoy the game, despite its flaws - and just leave it at that? Why pretend that whatever I say is crap because I am a "Nintendo Fanboy" who takes whatever gets thrown at her?
I don't. I grew up with Nintendo titles, yes, but that does not make me a fanboy.
Even worse, if they hate this game so much, why do they remain on the board and posting on it?
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TopHatProfessor1014 wrote:
CatMuto wrote:
Emiko Nabile Gale wrote:
I'm just a gamer. :3 My gender, how long/much I play, and what games I play mean nothing.
There, everyone's happy.
There, everyone's happy.
Oh my God, that's even worse.
Being a girl and even 'trying' to call yourself a Hardcore Gamer.
I don't know why people think that girls cannot be 'hardcore' gamers or are, in general, not that good at games. I have seen tournaments of Dead or Alive being done and there were some girls there, some were really good at that game. (I say some, because majority of what I saw was them 'turtling' until they opened a can of whoop ass onto their opponent) I don't play all kinds of genres, I do have my preferences - I prefer RPGs to FPS games because I can get invested more, it interests me more to have a story to follow rather than just "Shoot everything in sight! Why? Cause you're badass, that's why!"
Especially bad if you are a girl gamer who does not have an overbite, braces, thick glasses and bad hair hygiene, always tied up into an untidy ponytail and wear raggey clothes. If you actually look pretty hot in the general way of the term, people will still not take the girl gamer seriously.
Because people can't be hot and good at something that has nothing to do with appearances.
Funny thing is, until I had my braces removed last December, I did have those listed things. Well my glasses aren't super thick, but I do wear glasses (according to my husband, I'm hot, though)... and I mostly wear raggey clothes because they are comfortable to lie in. I can't see a gamer, whether male or female, sitting for hours on end playing a videogame in their best, tight, leatherpants with studs on them or something.
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Like I said before, there really is no such thing as a "hardcore" or "casual" gamer. Just someone who's either serious or average when it comes to the video games industry.
I honestly think that anyone can be good at games regardless of gender. Do we really have to live in a world where people view males as better suited to manipulating digital pieces of programming than females?
No. Worse we live in a world where women who like mechanics, politics and technologies are viewed like unfeminine women. Sad to say sometime we have retarded guys who tend to say that women are not meant to politics because a) The women is pretty, so she's dumb or not serious b) she looks like a man and act like a man, so she's not a women.
It always strike me that feminist are always ready to fight against the treatment of women as an object, but rarely do the same for girls who do not do things because they think it's unfeminine (and are afraid to go where barely women goes).
I already had a conversation about hardcore/casual gamer and it's a bad souvenir. But about the gender it sucks because the data/number prove that most girls play casual games.
Cat: I think those jerks could be considered as hipsgamer. People who like to brag about them liking thing outside the box and whining on how much your game sucks... Normally you just block those people or ignore them.
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Cat: I think those jerks could be considered as hipsgamer. People who like to brag about them liking thing outside the box and whining on how much your game sucks... Normally you just block those people or ignore them.
Mh, well, Pappin says he's been playing Zelda since 1990 so... I know I'm likely to distrust first, but I guess I will give him the benefit of the doubt. I've played Zelda since the 90s, too. Although I guess we're already got a wall between us cause Pappin things Ocarina is awesome and the best 3D Zelda ever while I... well, I think people hype Ocarina up too much.
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On the subject of women getting paid unequally, I agree that for the most part it's unfair. But most of these women are paid less, not simply because of their gender. Since they're women, they can get pregnant and take leaves. Employers aren't going to want to pay extra for women who won't be around as much as men. I'm not saying that's all there is to it, but I'm just saying that there's more to this issue than just "she's a woman, let's pay her less because of her gender."
Basically, the whole debate of male vs. female is bullshit for the most part. Why do we have to call these "female issues" or "male issues?" These are HUMAN issues, and we have to set aside our individual ideologies in order to address them. Men aren't all misogynistic pigs and women aren't all helpless victims. Instead of feminism, why can't we all adopt humanism?
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On the subject of women getting paid unequally, I agree that for the most part it's unfair. But most of these women are paid less, not simply because of their gender. Since they're women, they can get pregnant and take leaves. Employers aren't going to want to pay extra for women who won't be around as much as men. I'm not saying that's all there is to it, but I'm just saying that there's more to this issue than just "she's a woman, let's pay her less because of her gender."
Which is a bit dumb, as employers should know that children do not come cheap - so giving your potentially-getting-pregnant female employee less money before she leaves for maternity reasons, it's kind of dumb... but then, I always did like being told during school, when preparing for interviews that if I get the question "Do you think of having children in the near future?" or similar, I could just say No, whether I was thinking of having children or wasn't. I could be pregnant during the interview and still say No.
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Which is a bit dumb, as employers should know that children do not come cheap - so giving your potentially-getting-pregnant female employee less money before she leaves for maternity reasons, it's kind of dumb... but then, I always did like being told during school, when preparing for interviews that if I get the question "Do you think of having children in the near future?" or similar, I could just say No, whether I was thinking of having children or wasn't. I could be pregnant during the interview and still say No.
I'm pretty sure that most employers wouldn't really care about people's home situations. They care about getting jobs done and earning money. That's how capitalism works, unfortunately.
Sorry about those jerks getting angry at you over Zelda. Personally, Skyward Sword is the only Zelda game I've ever beat to 100% completion. It is indeed a very good game and the motion controls are spot-on. While it definitely feels familiar, I think there's enough in it to make it stand out on its own compared to the rest of the series. Sure, it's not perfect and it does have its share of problems; but I think those guys are taking it a bit far. If it's bothering you so much, simply just leave the thread. They obviously don't care about anyone else's dissenting opinion, so there's really no point. I never go on GameFAQ's forums, but I've heard that they can be pretty hateful at times.
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On the subject of women getting paid unequally, I agree that for the most part it's unfair. But most of these women are paid less, not simply because of their gender. Since they're women, they can get pregnant and take leaves. Employers aren't going to want to pay extra for women who won't be around as much as men. I'm not saying that's all there is to it, but I'm just saying that there's more to this issue than just "she's a woman, let's pay her less because of her gender."
Which is a bit dumb, as employers should know that children do not come cheap - so giving your potentially-getting-pregnant female employee less money before she leaves for maternity reasons, it's kind of dumb... but then, I always did like being told during school, when preparing for interviews that if I get the question "Do you think of having children in the near future?" or similar, I could just say No, whether I was thinking of having children or wasn't. I could be pregnant during the interview and still say No.
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Would be horribly dishonest of you if you did that and if you did get the job and then you had a kid they'd know you were lying and might just show you the door there or at worst take legal action for lying to employers.
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TopHat: I must admit I'm a feminist. One with the modo: The only difference between the sexes are their body. Women are as bitch than mens. I must admit that its sad to see that in divorce they will give the children to the mother to the single fact that a mother is better. Seriously, where is the fairness. Horrible mothers exist as well. Plus why people do not talk about male abuse it's because of the stupid mentality that man is stronger than women. Same thing about househusband. I'm sure they exist! Where are they! Come on! It would be a super hit sitcom in the states! I wanted to do a movie about a women clearly beating her husband only to be said that either it will be a comedy or to change the man for a women because the story would seem less farfetched. I never did that face before.
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Would be horribly dishonest of you if you did that and if you did get the job and then you had a kid they'd know you were lying and might just show you the door there or at worst take legal action for lying to employers.
Well for technicality's sake we could say that I didn't know I was pregnant at the time. According to my mother, she figured out pretty fast that she was pregnant when she was, but every woman is different - some realize after 2 weeks that they are pregnant and others don't realize it until about the second trimester, when the stomach starts to expand.
Of course, being sexually active is always a huge risk that there is always a chance of pregnancy, even with protection.
As for getting fired for "lying" well that's something I always wonder...
What business is it of my boss if I want to have kids or get pregnant? Unless I'm sleeping with said boss, it doesn't concern them at all, it's none of their damn business what I do during my leisure time, as long as I do a good job at work.
I never saw Wind Waker as such a great game, either. It was fun and all, no question about it. But it had flaws. Just like every game, I keep telling them that. And I can't really leave the thread, because they pop up in every thread - the thread could be about something in the game (ie a fresh thread about whether Motion Plus is actually required to play the game) and they pop in, leaving posts stating "Don't play this game it SUCKS!" and stuff like that.
And I don't feel like leaving the board
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Out of context is it worth to custumize your equipment? In skyward sword I mean. Because I'm so loosing my time on it XD
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Then let's wish that they are wise enough to choose the one with reason. Hell everyone has it's personal taste. It's not because you hate it tha tI will hate it too right?
Out of context is it worth to custumize your equipment? In skyward sword I mean. Because I'm so loosing my time on it XD
Out of context is it worth to custumize your equipment? In skyward sword I mean. Because I'm so loosing my time on it XD
I found upgrading my equipment to be good for later parts.
The Bugnet you can take your time to upgrade, the material isn't available early on and the bugnet is only required for a sidequest later on, where having the bigger bugnet is helpful. Unless you like to collect a ton of bugs.
But I'd definitely upgrade the Bow! I upgraded that to the max and it's such a neat, overpowered little thing~
The rest is kind of hit and miss. I think you practically are required to upgrade the Beetle for a later dungeon, to make it fly around longer.
Other items like Bomb bags, quivers and such are kind of pointless, so no real need there...
Of course I don't think people will (or should) hate something just because somebody else says they hate it. But that's what bothers me about them, they keep talking as if their opinion is the only one that matters and should be taken seriously, because THEY say the game is terrible and hence nobody should play it.
(Yeah like that'll teach Nintendo a lesson)
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Oh gods...There's labels for movie watchers too? D:
Seriously why can't we just like what we like without getting labeled?
Seriously why can't we just like what we like without getting labeled?
Crap like Call of Duty, Transformers, Madden etc. are the lowest forms of entertainment out there. While they might have started off decently, all of these series appeal to the lowest common denomination. Simply put, audiences eat this garbage up with EVERY release. Why do you think they still make these things if they're bad? Because they sell. That's all there is to it.
For example, look at McDonalds. Does anyone ACTUALLY like that food? Of course not. But it's inexpensive, it sells, and it gives people a cheap satisfaction before they leave and eventually come back for more. The same goes for all the other games and films that I've mentioned. Well, except for the inexpensive part. These things are bloody expensive, but people buy them anyways. That only further proves my point.
I like McDonalds. I prefer KFC, though.
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That is hilarious.
If the first part is true, you have my sympathies.
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I found out today that in Virtues Last Reward the voice acting is Japanese...and that makes me a bit sad. Sure there's nothing wrong with Japanese voice acting but it's predecessor 999 did some amazing things with the touchscreen and with VLR being multi-platform obviously it couldn't quite go that way. So I'd always seen it as a bit of a trade off, no innovative screen stuff but nice production values and voice acting and well...now it feels like the value of the voice acting has dropped significantly to me since I can't understand it and would just be reading a text adventure anyway.
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That is hilarious.
If the first part is true, you have my sympathies.
If the first part is true, you have my sympathies.
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I found out today that in Virtues Last Reward the voice acting is Japanese...and that makes me a bit sad. Sure there's nothing wrong with Japanese voice acting but it's predecessor 999 did some amazing things with the touchscreen and with VLR being multi-platform obviously it couldn't quite go that way. So I'd always seen it as a bit of a trade off, no innovative screen stuff but nice production values and voice acting and well...now it feels like the value of the voice acting has dropped significantly to me since I can't understand it and would just be reading a text adventure anyway.
The American version has the option of both English and Japanese voice acting. Not entirely sure why the European version is only in Japanese. I don't exactly see what you're complaining about, though. What exactly is wrong with Japanese voice acting? That's the language it was originally in, and you have subtitles. Practically every single major visual novel has Japanese voice acting, and even fewer are ever dubbed in English. To me, it's a miracle that it even ever got an English dub. It's not like the voice acting is bad or anything.
The director Kotaro Uchikoshi said from the very beginning that VLR wouldn't have any touchscreen innovations like 999. Besides, that was used in only one puzzle. It's no big loss. Anyways, it's not like I can even play the game. I don't have a 3DS or Vita.
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Also of course there wouldn't be touchscreen innovations, it was being developed for multiple consoles. Also that one puzzle had implications that affected the entire game up till that point because of it. Though no matter, it's just a case of I'd weighed up the loss of Dual screens and potential applications with the benefit of voice acting. I don't really obtain any benefit from Japanese voice acting is all didn't say was anything inherently wrong with it.
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I found out today that in Virtues Last Reward the voice acting is Japanese...and that makes me a bit sad. Sure there's nothing wrong with Japanese voice acting but it's predecessor 999 did some amazing things with the touchscreen and with VLR being multi-platform obviously it couldn't quite go that way. So I'd always seen it as a bit of a trade off, no innovative screen stuff but nice production values and voice acting and well...now it feels like the value of the voice acting has dropped significantly to me since I can't understand it and would just be reading a text adventure anyway.
The American version has the option of both English and Japanese voice acting. Not entirely sure why the European version is only in Japanese. I don't exactly see what you're complaining about, though. What exactly is wrong with Japanese voice acting? That's the language it was originally in, and you have subtitles. Practically every single major visual novel has Japanese voice acting, and even fewer are ever dubbed in English. To me, it's a miracle that it even ever got an English dub. It's not like the voice acting is bad or anything.
The director Kotaro Uchikoshi said from the very beginning that VLR wouldn't have any touchscreen innovations like 999. Besides, that was used in only one puzzle. It's no big loss. Anyways, it's not like I can even play the game. I don't have a 3DS or Vita.
I actually preferred the American voices to the Japanese ones. Not sure why... I just did... I'd switch voice options every time I loaded the game, and I guess the English voice overs just won me over more. Plus there's a scenario at the end of the game where the Japanese voices suddenly disappear and they're replaced by text sound effects, but the whole sequence is fully voiced in English if you go that way :\
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Well that's not very nice :(
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Well that's not very nice :(
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Pierre wrote:
I found out today that in Virtues Last Reward the voice acting is Japanese...and that makes me a bit sad. Sure there's nothing wrong with Japanese voice acting but it's predecessor 999 did some amazing things with the touchscreen and with VLR being multi-platform obviously it couldn't quite go that way. So I'd always seen it as a bit of a trade off, no innovative screen stuff but nice production values and voice acting and well...now it feels like the value of the voice acting has dropped significantly to me since I can't understand it and would just be reading a text adventure anyway.
The American version has the option of both English and Japanese voice acting. Not entirely sure why the European version is only in Japanese. I don't exactly see what you're complaining about, though. What exactly is wrong with Japanese voice acting? That's the language it was originally in, and you have subtitles. Practically every single major visual novel has Japanese voice acting, and even fewer are ever dubbed in English. To me, it's a miracle that it even ever got an English dub. It's not like the voice acting is bad or anything.
The director Kotaro Uchikoshi said from the very beginning that VLR wouldn't have any touchscreen innovations like 999. Besides, that was used in only one puzzle. It's no big loss. Anyways, it's not like I can even play the game. I don't have a 3DS or Vita.
I actually preferred the American voices to the Japanese ones. Not sure why... I just did... I'd switch voice options every time I loaded the game, and I guess the English voice overs just won me over more. Plus there's a scenario at the end of the game where the Japanese voices suddenly disappear and they're replaced by text sound effects, but the whole sequence is fully voiced in English if you go that way :\
After a smidge of research apparently for some reason the European version actually IS Japanese-VA only....weird.
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I hate Teddie. I hate him so fucking much.
I'm not the biggest fan of Yamaguchi Kappei to begin with and bringing him in to do a grating, high pitched voice for a mascot is already a step in the bad direction. Teddie starts out as this annoying little creature that blames me for stuff, then sucks up to me goes all buddy-buddy. Okay, much later on he supposedly gets more tolerable, but even after the giant reveal that was a surprise back then but now is something everybody knows, like with Naoto, I still find him annoying to no end. I already have Yosuke there as a comic relief character, especially when he's in scenes with Kanji or Narukami, depending on what I make Narukami say, I don't need fucking Teddie there and telling me over and over how he's gonna "score" now with the girls. It wasn't funny the first time he said it.
And then he takes on the role of Navi.
Good freaking God, what was Atlus thinking, creating that feature in Persona 4? Okay, it makes sense in the Beginner Difficulty. Maybe even the Normal Difficulty. But if I pick to choose to play with Expert Difficulty, I think the game designers would think I know what I'm doing during battle. I don't need Teddie constantly screeching into my ear, "There are 3 enemies-kuma, graaaw! Yosuke pounded an enemy! Graawr, Go-Go, Sensei! Senseeeeeei, Chie is hurt! Hurry up and help her! Careful, Yuki-chan! Your defense is so low-kuma! Sensei, Sensei, open your eyes-kuma! Sensei, Yosuke is kumafused, do something! Only 2 enemies remain-kuma! Graaawr, the enemy is down!"
I mean, come on, Atlus. I can fucking see what it's going on! I mean, I do have the Screen in-fucking-front of me, after all. So yeah, Beginner difficulty, for new players, I can see why they think we'd need a helper like that.
But why in Expert mode, huh? This game is already pretty unfriendly towards new gamers, Atlus is notorious for making games hard and challenging. Were they trying to go for an upbeat Mission Control because Persona 4 is the most upbeat out of the current Persona games? Can't be, after all, Mitsuru and Fuuka in Persona 3 are just as bad - well, except their voices, while terribly dubbed, are at least not so bad that I want to stab my ears.
And I know that Rise takes over that job.
But her voice isn't as grating as Teddie's... And fucking Teddie, taking forever to let me Escape, letting the enemies kill Narukami again so I have to go through Floor 7 and the Miniboss of MaruQ Striptease again although I already passed those ten minutes ago!
Seriously, why does Atlus have the fucking Navi-Mission Control?
Do they really think gamers are so stupid they don't see what's going on while playing the game?
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Pierre wrote:
I think it was more an aesthetic choice than them actually doubting the gamer's ability to perceive the status ailments/hp/etc.
How is a neon-green circle with the Mission Control's face in it asthetically pleasing?
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CatMuto wrote:
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I think it was more an aesthetic choice than them actually doubting the gamer's ability to perceive the status ailments/hp/etc.
How is a neon-green circle with the Mission Control's face in it asthetically pleasing?
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Fine wrong word (though some people might like Neon green), thematic and in keeping with the pattern from Persona 3.
The Battle screen in Persona 4 if I recall correctly resembles a TV screen therefore it is showing a fight or a battle, and commonly in televised fights there is commentary to accompany the fighting.
A better question is why it's implemented in Persona 3, I guess to suit the militaristic/secret organisation style they are going for but it's less clear.
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The Battle screen in Persona 4 if I recall correctly resembles a TV screen therefore it is showing a fight or a battle, and commonly in televised fights there is commentary to accompany the fighting.
Yeah and even there it's pretty stupid. I mean, if it's Radio it's understandable, you can't see what's going on. But on TV, we can see what is happening, so telling us seconds after something happened what happened is dumb, unless it's a commentary post-advertisement breaks. Worst I've seen was commentary on a Dead or Alive tournament. For one, the commentators tried to sound like H4RDC00R3 G4M3RZ themselves, which just makes them sound dumb, and they kept telling me things like "They are turtling right now" (remaining in a crouched, defensive position, waiting for the opponent to move) or "Oh, Hitomi giving him a nice elbow to the gut"
Again, I can SEE what's going on.
And even in Persona 3, having Mitsuru or Fuuka tell me that same stuff is so stupid. Shut Up, Mitsuru/Fuuka, I can SEE what's going on. Stop telling me, Navi. Let me play the game myself.
And like I said, having that there for Beginner difficulty is just fine.
But give me an option to turn them off when I'm on Expert.
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