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Nothing can be weighed in pounds since things that measure weight as opposed to mass are calibrated for Earth and go out-of-whack when you bring them other places. (They wouldn't overcompensate or undercompensate for the platform and stuff like that :S)

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Ah yes, maybe I should have been more specific. I need something that can only obtain a reading from a scale on the moon, but not the Earth. Think, what would be physically impossible to weigh unless it was on the moon, where the gravity is different?

The air answer was closest so far, but air isn't what you measure on a scale.
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Erm...wind? Otherwise, I got no clue...
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You can measure the weight of something on the moon on the moon only. (You can estimate it on Earth, but ou can't know for sure unless you're on the moon xD)
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I didn't think it would get this complicated, but Bad Player is right. This "object" has a weight that can only be estimated on Earth, but only on the moon can you force the scale to give you a reading on this object's weight. Of course, like Bad Player said, it won't be an accurate weight, but it will be a weight nonetheless.

Think hard, what would be difficult to keep on a scale on Earth long enough to get a reading?
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I didn't think it would get this complicated, but Bad Player is right. This "object" has a weight that can only be estimated on Earth, but only on the moon can you force the scale to give you a reading on this object's weight. Of course, like Bad Player said, it won't be an accurate weight, but it will be a weight nonetheless.

Think hard, what would be difficult to keep on a scale on Earth long enough to get a reading?


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Think hard, what would be difficult to keep on a scale on Earth long enough to get a reading?


... THE MOON! :redd:
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Think hard, what would be difficult to keep on a scale on Earth long enough to get a reading?


... THE MOON! :redd:



*FACEPALM*

Sorry, those aren't it either...I'm running out of hints that won't give the answer away too.

The last hint: This object will not stay on the scale long enough to get a reading, but on the moon, a reading can be achieved.
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The fuel in your spaceship. Given that you start with 'x' fuel, when you fly to the moon, you burn fuel, and when you land on the moon, you can weight how much you currently have, and subtract from what you started with to find the fuel burnt for the trip. When you return to Earth, you can no longer figure out what you had burnt going to the moon, only the combined trip since the gravitational pulls and force vortex will never be the same at any two seconds, therefore you could not simple divide the trip by 2.

So, the fuel remaining at half-trip?
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Ahh... helium? XD
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ARGH SO CLOSE, ADRIAN IN BLACK!
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XDDD

An atom, then? That's my final guess.
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Go back to the helium, you were so close:O
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Helium balloon?
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Yes!!!! THANK YOU:O
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Hahahaha XD

I wouldn't have guessed that at all.
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Yes!!!! THANK YOU:O


... but you can weigh a helium balloon though, on both Earth and the Moon...
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... but you can weigh a helium balloon though, on both Earth and the Moon...

Nah, you can't keep it on the scale long enough on Earth.
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IlovephoenixwrightXD wrote:
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... but you can weigh a helium balloon though, on both Earth and the Moon...

Nah, you can't keep it on the scale long enough on Earth.

You can't weigh a helium balloon on the Moon; it will pop in the vacuum.

If you want to play around the temperature, pressure, and the surrounding environment of the helium balloon you might be able to get a reading, but can't you just figure out the mass of the Helium from the temperature, pressure, and volume of the balloon, and then multiple by some gravitational constant?
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IlovephoenixwrightXD wrote:
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... but you can weigh a helium balloon though, on both Earth and the Moon...

Nah, you can't keep it on the scale long enough on Earth.


... I beg to differ.

In my knowledge there are 4 ways to determine a helium balloon's weight and mass.

Although this wasn't the exact format of my experiment, I found this experiment to be identical, and the easiest of the 4; all of which bear the same results.

1. Turn on a micro digital scale. To get an accurate weight for your helium balloon, the scale should be of the type that can weigh something as light as 1/100g.

2. Place a quarter onto the balance; a small balance weight (like the ones that likely come with a school scale); or another small, heavy object on the scale and write down the weight. The object should weigh at least 4 or 5g.

3. Tie the string on your helium balloon to the quarter, weight or whichever small object you used in Step 2. Make sure it is tight, so it won't come loose while you are calculating the helium balloon's weight. You will also find out if your object is heavy enough to keep the helium balloon firmly planted. If it is not, use something else, repeting Step 2 if necessary.

4. Place the small, heavy object (with the balloon string attached) on the scale. Write down the weight.

5. Subtract the weight from Step 4 from the weight of Step 2. If you did everything right, you should have a negative number. You result in a negative number because the balloon, filled with helium, is actually pulling against gravity, though not enough to make your weight from Step 2 take off into the air.

6. Know the difference between "weight" and "mass." The definition of weight, according to Dictionary.com, is "the force that gravitation exerts upon a body, equal to the mass of the body times the local acceleration of gravity: commonly taken, in a region of constant gravitational acceleration, as a measure of mass." Because the helium has a negative effect against the force of gravity, this is one case in which the weight will not be the same as the mass.

7. Poke a hole in the balloon to let the helium out, and untie the string from your balance weight. Weigh the balloon by itself on the scale and you will have its mass, because there is no longer a force acting against gravity. Now you have the mass and the "weight", the negative number from Step 5, of a helium balloon.

I would assume the same would work on something with the relative gravity of the Moon, with the given that you would need a more advanced scale in terms of light weight, but what Bad Player has said does strike the riddle in question to be incorrect, as well as disproving the balloon's holding on the Moon.
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LordWolfODonnell wrote:
IlovephoenixwrightXD wrote:
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... but you can weigh a helium balloon though, on both Earth and the Moon...

Nah, you can't keep it on the scale long enough on Earth.


... I beg to differ.

In my knowledge there are 4 ways to determine a helium balloon's weight and mass.

Although this wasn't the exact format of my experiment, I found this experiment to be identical, and the easiest of the 4; all of which bear the same results.

1. Turn on a micro digital scale. To get an accurate weight for your helium balloon, the scale should be of the type that can weigh something as light as 1/100g.

2. Place a quarter onto the balance; a small balance weight (like the ones that likely come with a school scale); or another small, heavy object on the scale and write down the weight. The object should weigh at least 4 or 5g.

3. Tie the string on your helium balloon to the quarter, weight or whichever small object you used in Step 2. Make sure it is tight, so it won't come loose while you are calculating the helium balloon's weight. You will also find out if your object is heavy enough to keep the helium balloon firmly planted. If it is not, use something else, repeting Step 2 if necessary.

4. Place the small, heavy object (with the balloon string attached) on the scale. Write down the weight.

5. Subtract the weight from Step 4 from the weight of Step 2. If you did everything right, you should have a negative number. You result in a negative number because the balloon, filled with helium, is actually pulling against gravity, though not enough to make your weight from Step 2 take off into the air.

6. Know the difference between "weight" and "mass." The definition of weight, according to Dictionary.com, is "the force that gravitation exerts upon a body, equal to the mass of the body times the local acceleration of gravity: commonly taken, in a region of constant gravitational acceleration, as a measure of mass." Because the helium has a negative effect against the force of gravity, this is one case in which the weight will not be the same as the mass.

7. Poke a hole in the balloon to let the helium out, and untie the string from your balance weight. Weigh the balloon by itself on the scale and you will have its mass, because there is no longer a force acting against gravity. Now you have the mass and the "weight", the negative number from Step 5, of a helium balloon.

I would assume the same would work on something with the relative gravity of the Moon, with the given that you would need a more advanced scale in terms of light weight, but what Bad Player has said does strike the riddle in question to be incorrect, as well as disproving the balloon's holding on the Moon.

Hmm.... what about when temperature is very low, making helium denser and eventually causing it to sink? It won't go up, meaning it will have a positive weight, which means you will get a different result from this. However, changing temperature should not change weight.

Also, weighing the balloon by itself does not count the mass of the helium, and thus is just the mass of a balloon, not of a balloon filled with helium.

(Devil's advocate is fun.)
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You know, this one I heard from a teacher of mine a while ago, and I had the same thoughts. Apparently though, he used some big words to describe it (I was in Grade 7 at the time), and I didn't really argue the finer points of it.

This puzzle was a dud, I got really excited only because someone actually guessed the answer that had been implanted in my head for so long. Apologies, everyone!
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That, or a towel. Announcing that puzzle at my school would result in 550 kids shouting "That's what she said!"

Not too sure about the second one, is it meant to be a riddle?

It's not a sponge or a towel either.
Yeah the second one is a riddle.~

Tip on both of the previous riddles I posted: Completely innocent and pleasing to the tongue.
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Oh, oh! It's a tea bag, right?! Goes in dry, comes out wet, and gets stronger the longer it stays in water.

Still pondering that second one, it's kind of difficult to think on that one.
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I dunno if I'd call a teabag innocent *BA DUM TISH*
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XD

Ahaha, Halo will never be same for me...
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Yep it was a tea bag. I congratulate you for not thinking it was a penis. XD I thought that was what it was when I first heard it.

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Oh dear, I would've had to throw myself into a gay bar if that had happened. Of course, like I said, many kids from my high school years would have definitely guessed that.
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Here's a quick one I made up when reading "Brawl in the family"
Spoiler: Savin' space
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What big contradiction is there in this comic?
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Well, Kirby usually talks in that comic, so that can't be it...
Is it Metaknight's sword? Or maybe the magically appearing zipper?
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Well, Kirby usually talks in that comic, so that can't be it...
Is it Metaknight's sword? Or maybe the magically appearing zipper?


Hadn't thought of those, but no. Someone more logical than graphic.
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That MetaKnight with wings expanded isn't big enough to escape through the gap of the open zipper
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That Waddle Dee shouldn't look surprised int he second panel, or look ill, because it isn't Waddle Dee?
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Oh, duh.
Dedede shouldn't have been so surprised because he knew it wasn't Metaknight.
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Well that's one way to say it.
My answer was: Why would a Metaknight dressed as Dedede go talk with someone he thought was Metaknight? He should have freaked, knowing that he's MK and that there couldn't be two of 'em.
So yeah, justis is right.
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There's a perfectly logical explanation for that though.

Murmurs in the ranks could be of a spy in the camp.
A dead waddle dee here mysterious vacuum noises around the base.
Dedede in his infinite wisdom goes into hiding to avoid assasination.
Meta Knight on his King's order's takes his place as a decoy to lure the imposter out.

Meta Knight would know instantly that the fake meta Knight was the intruder and simply waited for the ideal time to reveal himself to his opponent for maximum surprise.
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Wow, I had no clue that BitF could be so deep.
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There's a perfectly logical explanation for that though.

Murmurs in the ranks could be of a spy in the camp.
A dead waddle dee here mysterious vacuum noises around the base.
Dedede in his infinite wisdom goes into hiding to avoid assasination.
Meta Knight on his King's order's takes his place as a decoy to lure the imposter out.

Meta Knight would know instantly that the fake meta Knight was the intruder and simply waited for the ideal time to reveal himself to his opponent for maximum surprise.


Ha...! But why was he surprised that the Metaknight was actually former Dreamland Hero, Kirby?
Perhaps he was trying to convince the intruder by looking surprised, thus raising the intruder's hopes of scaring him off, just to pop out at the right moment and get the better of him.
A better explanation would be the following: they knew that the intruder was a Waddle Dee by eye witnesses. Now, Metaknight, knowing that the Metaknight he saw couldn't be real, thought he was the intruder Waddle Dee: they have both the same shape and size.
He goes up to him, dressed as his king, planning to kill him or at least scare him off. When he discovers it's Kirby, he's surprised, because he had always thought, along with the others, that the intruder was a Waddle Dee. But he still follows his plan, Waddle Dee or not, and God knows what happened next.

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My theory stands.
Kirby would have assumed something was up if Dedede was completely unphased by his appearance. The momentary shock allowed Kirby to think he had the upper hand before the Mach blade of Meta Knight cut him in twain!
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A reposting of my riddles from a few pages back. Please spoiler-cut your answers!

Spoiler: Riddle 1
* I see without seeing
And wake in my time,
And act as unliving
Accomplice to crime.


Spoiler: Riddle 2
* The voice that spoke clearly
Is muted and dead;
He ponders the two who
Left blood on his head.


Spoiler: Riddle 3
* When sleeping, it's dull,
And when wakened, it glows -
A key to the secrets
You dare not disclose.


And one more, in the same vein:

Spoiler: Riddle 4
* I'm a creature that fate
And ballistics propel,
Untethered in vengeance,
Released in a cell -
A smothering prison
That froze as it fell.

I pierced to the heart -
'twas my wielder's sin.
But though I escaped him,
He's bearing my twin -
The secret that's buried
Deep under his skin.


(EDIT: I'll save this one for later.)


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