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Here´s the link i´m using:
http://cs.wikipedia.org/wiki/Katakana
If you have some better links for japenese language, please post it here...
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Re: Japanese Language
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PhoenixBG wrote:
when I play Gyakuten Saiban 4 on my DS, I see some japanese letters that i didn´t saw on wikipedia chart.
Were they by any chance ... hiragana?
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Holy Hell wrote:
PhoenixBG wrote:
when I play Gyakuten Saiban 4 on my DS, I see some japanese letters that i didn´t saw on wikipedia chart.
Were they by any chance ... hiragana?
Yeah, Hiragana is somewhat important...I think?
I learned that first.
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I was inspired to start learning Japanese so I could understand the story in Rockman EXE 2. It wasn't until Rockman EXE 4 that I got a decent handle on it.
So you might be better off waiting for the English release, but by all means study Japanese, it's a wonderful language. And when GS6 comes out, who knows! ^_^
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I know russian, czech, english, Germany´s language already and now, need one Asian language!!!
Could someone tell me were is the hiragana chart, please???
OT (Offtopic):
Are japanese christians or budists???
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Jesus christ!!! I didn´t get some things...
You mean, there are two different Japansese languages???
The only problem is, that in the Gyakuten Saiban game, the names of humans are in Katakana and the text is in Hiragana, ummm.... help??? Could someone explain me that please???
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It would be best to learn Hiragana and Katakana and a few Kanji before even attempting to play a Japanese game.
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I suggest you buy yourself a textbook and start with that. Youkoso and Genki are both very good.
Or, better yet, wait until Naila's translation of the first case is out and just use that.
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OT (Offtopic):
Are japanese christians or budists???
Are japanese christians or budists???
Most are either Atheist, Shinto, Buddhist or Christian, in that particular order.
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But as with any language, if you want to gain a true understanding, find an immersion course to practice your conversational skills. I CANNOT STRESS HOW IMPORTANT THIS IS.
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I'm a little rusty at ol' Japanese and haven't really learnt much, but I am learning. I know about ten symbols in Kanji! I can also say a few frazes!(sp?)
I wish you good luck with it! until then! Dewa mata ashita!
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I suggest you buy yourself a textbook and start with that. Youkoso and Genki are both very good.
I'd recommend Genki as well. Youkoso was okay - but I seemed to pick things up a little quicker with Genki's Lessons. Learning Japanese isn't easy, but man, it's a great feeling when all those squiggles start to make sense.
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Chikikyo wrote:
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I noticed a couple people referring to hiragana/katakana/kanji as alphabets. Just for clarity, none of those are alphabets. They are syllabaries and a logography, respectively. The only alphabet Japanese has is romaji, which Japanese people almost never use.
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Also, I recommend Genki over Youkoso as well.
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CantFaketheFunk wrote:
汉语比日语好的多
Ok, we get it, you like Chinese. I guess it's "superior" in that it has more tones?
Oh, and check out 3yen (Google it). The guy has some good lessons for beginners.
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Also Shinto and Buddhism go more or less hand in hand--you also cannot really 'Do' Shinto unless you're Japanese to begin with.
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FerricChef wrote:
CantFaketheFunk wrote:
汉语比日语好的多
Ok, we get it, you like Chinese. I guess it's "superior" in that it has more tones?
Oh, and check out 3yen (Google it). The guy has some good lessons for beginners.
Actually, I saw your avatar and was wondering if the forum supported Simplified Characters. >.> It does.
Since you asked...
Why I prefer Chinese to Japanese--well, firstly, the grammar. Chinese grammar is SO easy and natural and simple, Japanese grammar is so clunky and complicated and relying way too much on particles (hate particles). Chinese is easier to read, what with the simplified characters... and each character is one syllable, and with VERY rare exceptions, will always be pronounced the same way whether solo or in a word. There's no silly kunyomi/onyomi. There's also none of the blasted verb conjugation or the formal/humble speech.
Japanese is easier for foreigners to pronounce, and Chinese tones can be very hard to get used to at first. That's where Japanese is easier--but really, once you get an ear for them, it's not all that bad.
Also, seeing as China is on its way to becoming HULK SMASH, I find it more useful :P But that's just me.
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One day, I hope to pass the Level 1 Japanese Language Proficiency Test, and at least Pre-2 on the Kanji Kentei. If I really studied for years, even after uni, I might be able to pass 1 on KK, but that's a big if.
EDIT: By the by, Croik, how much Japanese do you know?
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EDIT: By the by, Croik, how much Japanese do you know?
I dunno, that's a pretty broad question.
Not fluent, that's for sure. Ever since leaving school most of my Japanese has been focused on manga, so I'm kinda rusty. You only need to know so much to do...the kind of manga I do, really.
But it's enough to get me through games and anime most of the time and THAT'S WHAT MATTERS right???(...I should brush up, when my schedule's a little lighter...)
But I definately suggest learning as much hiragana and katakana as you can before going into unniversity classes. They throw a lot at you in the beginning and it helps to have that slight edge.
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I'm also glad my school is an IB school. Otherwise we wouldn't have Japanese as an elective. Actually they said we're the only school in the county that has Japanese. ;D
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CantFaketheFunk wrote:
汉语比日语好的多
I am officially intimated!
Any language that has characters instead of letters makes me nervous!
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It's pretty confusing though.
According to Gyakuten Saiban, "Objection" is translated as "Igari"
However, according to my Japanese dictionary, "Objection" is translated as "Igi"
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Unfortunately, I never really learned it properly since I was itching to play GS3 a year ago, and thus, with my overly simplified and neophyte Japanese comprehension skills, I only understood one quarter to half of what was going on. Same thing happened with GS4. -.-
Croik wrote:
But I definately suggest learning as much hiragana and katakana as you can before going into unniversity classes. They throw a lot at you in the beginning and it helps to have that slight edge.
Taking note of that; might be useful. :P
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Serene_Polaris wrote:
Hmmm.. I might be learning Japanese pretty soon.
It's pretty confusing though.
According to Gyakuten Saiban, "Objection" is translated as "Igari"
However, according to my Japanese dictionary, "Objection" is translated as "Igi"
CONFUZZLED!!!
It's pretty confusing though.
According to Gyakuten Saiban, "Objection" is translated as "Igari"
However, according to my Japanese dictionary, "Objection" is translated as "Igi"
CONFUZZLED!!!
If you look at the exclamation, you'll notice that there are three characters
The Kanji 'Igi'
Hiragana 'A'
Hiragana 'Ri'
Unfortunately, my computer doesn't support Japanese word processing, so I can't show you.
There are three alphabets used in the Japanese language
Hiragana- Used to learn phonetics and for grammar stems (such as -masu and -te)
Katakana- Used for foreign words, incidentally, Japanese children learn this alphabet first (which is probably why the names are in Katakana)
Kanji- the more complex characters, imported from China as a writing system. There are literrally thousands of kanji.
Kanji has two readings, the 'kun-yomi' which is the typical Japanese phonetic, meaning that on its own, this is the typical reading. The other is the 'On-yomi' which is the Chinese reading. Take the word 'Big' (Ookii) for example, when the kanji is combined with 'Gaku' (study) it becomes 'Daigaku' (University).
I do recommend checking various universities if you want to learn it. Mine, for example, has several partner universities in target language countries. This year, Japanese students will be joining our class, and in a year's time, I'll be going to Japan myself. However, this is not mandatory in all University programmes.
Finally, unlike Chinese, Japanese does not differentiate orally between kanji with the same phonetics, since 'Shi' can also mean 'death' the when counting, the typical pronunciation of 4 and 7 are Yon and Nana respectively.
At university, the textbooks we use are 'Minna no Nihongo' and 'Basic Kanji Book'. I get them from the Japan Centre in London, but I'm sure you could get them off amazon or something.
If you live in England and want to study Japanese at a BA level, PM me and I'll tell you about the university I go to.
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Ryuko wrote:
Serene_Polaris wrote:
Hmmm.. I might be learning Japanese pretty soon.
It's pretty confusing though.
According to Gyakuten Saiban, "Objection" is translated as "Igari"
However, according to my Japanese dictionary, "Objection" is translated as "Igi"
CONFUZZLED!!!
It's pretty confusing though.
According to Gyakuten Saiban, "Objection" is translated as "Igari"
However, according to my Japanese dictionary, "Objection" is translated as "Igi"
CONFUZZLED!!!
If you look at the exclamation, you'll notice that there are three characters
The Kanji 'Igi'
Hiragana 'A'
Hiragana 'Ri'
Unfortunately, my computer doesn't support Japanese word processing, so I can't show you.
There are three alphabets used in the Japanese language
Hiragana- Used to learn phonetics and for grammar stems (such as -masu and -te)
Katakana- Used for foreign words, incidentally, Japanese children learn this alphabet first (which is probably why the names are in Katakana)
Kanji- the more complex characters, imported from China as a writing system. There are literrally thousands of kanji.
Kanji has two readings, the 'kun-yomi' which is the typical Japanese phonetic, meaning that on its own, this is the typical reading. The other is the 'On-yomi' which is the Chinese reading. Take the word 'Big' (Ookii) for example, when the kanji is combined with 'Gaku' (study) it becomes 'Daigaku' (University).
I do recommend checking various universities if you want to learn it. Mine, for example, has several partner universities in target language countries. This year, Japanese students will be joining our class, and in a year's time, I'll be going to Japan myself. However, this is not mandatory in all University programmes.
Finally, unlike Chinese, Japanese does not differentiate orally between kanji with the same phonetics, since 'Shi' can also mean 'death' the when counting, the typical pronunciation of 4 and 7 are Yon and Nana respectively.
At university, the textbooks we use are 'Minna no Nihongo' and 'Basic Kanji Book'. I get them from the Japan Centre in London, but I'm sure you could get them off amazon or something.
If you live in England and want to study Japanese at a BA level, PM me and I'll tell you about the university I go to.
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Quote:
If you look at the exclamation, you'll notice that there are three characters
The Kanji 'Igi'
Hiragana 'A'
Hiragana 'Ri'
The Kanji 'Igi'
Hiragana 'A'
Hiragana 'Ri'
Hmm? Aren't there four of them?
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Kharl wrote:
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If you look at the exclamation, you'll notice that there are three characters
The Kanji 'Igi'
Hiragana 'A'
Hiragana 'Ri'
The Kanji 'Igi'
Hiragana 'A'
Hiragana 'Ri'
Hmm? Aren't there four of them?
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Still, great advice for anyone who wish to learn Japanese anyway, Ryoko.
I put the Hiragana in bold, you can see that they are simpler characters than the kanji, which are not in bold. But you do have a point, 'Igi' was not something I covered, but I knew it was at least one character.
The grammar stems I was referring to are called 'Okurigana', and when written over Kanji to show their pronunciations, they're referred to as 'Furigana' in both cases Hiragana is used.
Also, my name is 'Ryuko' it's Japanese for 'Dragon Child' (it's a name I like)
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